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Suprak the Stud
10/16/19 7:42:03 PM
#352:


GuessMyUserName posted...
still no fan but I gotta say I lol'd

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184597281808498688
then
https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi


This is pretty great, yep.

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LordoftheMorons
10/16/19 9:38:19 PM
#353:


At least we can rest easy that Trump is focused on the biggest issues we face today:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1184634725677314050?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/16/19 9:50:01 PM
#354:


Just realized that the letter is dated a week ago, so it seems that Erdogan totally ignored it

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SmartMuffin
10/16/19 9:59:53 PM
#355:


red sox 777 posted...
Uh, that letter is classic Trump style. I don't see what's strange about it.


I absolutely love it. This is exactly why people voted for Trump!
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SmartMuffin
10/16/19 10:05:56 PM
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LordoftheMorons
10/16/19 10:15:51 PM
#357:


GOP Rep:

https://twitter.com/repkinzinger/status/1184650759377473536?s=21

we literally have to bomb our own bases as we leave because of Trumps massive fuck up

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 4:26:36 AM
#358:


Every accusation by Trump is projection, part 24729:

https://twitter.com/repdonbeyer/status/1184588589725868034?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 5:43:35 AM
#359:


https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1184752349149048832

"What a surprise"

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 6:17:29 AM
#360:


ffffffffffffff, Elijah Cummings died :(
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1184770738567417856

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Reg
10/17/19 9:15:04 AM
#361:


LordoftheMorons posted...
ffffffffffffff, Elijah Cummings died :(
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1184770738567417856

What the fuck

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TheRock1525
10/17/19 9:24:14 AM
#362:


LordoftheMorons posted...
ffffffffffffff, Elijah Cummings died :(
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1184770738567417856


Will Trump attack him?
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Jakyl25
10/17/19 9:26:52 AM
#363:


TheRock1525 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
ffffffffffffff, Elijah Cummings died :(
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1184770738567417856


Will Trump attack him?


Hillary has struck again!
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Peace___Frog
10/17/19 9:28:00 AM
#364:


TheRock1525 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
ffffffffffffff, Elijah Cummings died :(
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1184770738567417856


Will Trump attack him?

He had an aide post a tame and generic "warmest condolences" post.

I give it six hours until he gives his actual thoughts.
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ChaosTonyV4
10/17/19 9:30:16 AM
#365:


Wtf, I didnt even know he was sick, it says he died in hospice care?
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Grimlyn
10/17/19 10:53:53 AM
#366:


what the fuck =/
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ChaosTonyV4
10/17/19 11:50:53 AM
#367:


Hey I missed this during the debate:

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1184296664753983488?s=21

Lets put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.

Where do the other 8 months come from? Your paycheck. #DemDebate


Where does the money come from for private health insurance? Your paycheck.

This is the exact kind of (disingenuous) criticism that the Right uses, and all while valid criticisms by Bernie are called over the line. Fuck you, Joe!
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Ashethan
10/17/19 12:02:53 PM
#368:


The whole "I HATE TAXES" stuff is ridiculous when you consider how much your employer takes from you compared to how much the government does (and what they give back)
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DoomTheGyarados
10/17/19 12:15:59 PM
#369:


Joe is so horrible
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Not_an_Owl
10/17/19 12:18:20 PM
#370:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Hey I missed this during the debate:

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1184296664753983488?s=21

Lets put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.

Where do the other 8 months come from? Your paycheck. #DemDebate


Where does the money come from for private health insurance? Your paycheck.

This is the exact kind of (disingenuous) criticism that the Right uses, and all while valid criticisms by Bernie are called over the line. Fuck you, Joe!

no but you see it's okay because under the current system your paycheck only pays for your healthcare, while under the socialist hellscape m4a plan your paycheck would also go to helping The Poors
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HeroDelTiempo17
10/17/19 12:28:26 PM
#371:


Not_an_Owl posted...
no but you see it's okay because under the current system your paycheck only pays for your healthcare, while under the socialist hellscape m4a plan your paycheck would also go to helping The Poors


Well that's not even true because taxes are already going towards the ACA and Medicare. But at least if Biden were to make this argument, it would be more intellectually honest than what he's doing. Still technically wrong, and callous, but also more honest than these bad faith attacks.

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red sox 777
10/17/19 12:29:08 PM
#372:


Yeah, there is a big difference. Under the socialist plan, rich people would pay more and poor people would pay less. It's a legitimate complaint but it also shows Joe's target audience. Those people making 250k a year who he and Hillary believe are the real swing voters (spoilers, they've already made up their minds. Either they are liberal elitists and will vote for the Dem no matter what or they are voting for their own financial self-interest, in which case no Dem will ever manage to match the appeal of the GOP).
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Reg
10/17/19 1:01:56 PM
#373:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Lets put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.

Doesn't Joe keep quoting a M4A cost that's significantly more than other candidates or am I misremembering?
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red13n
10/17/19 1:50:22 PM
#374:


Pence strokes Trump's ego by citing his decisive action on...admonishing Turkey. Then announces they have agreed to a 120 hour cease fire so the kurds can run away before Turkey resumes murdering them.

Murder area now being called "safe zone".
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HeroDelTiempo17
10/17/19 1:53:02 PM
#375:


Reg posted...


Doesn't Joe keep quoting a M4A cost that's significantly more than other candidates or am I misremembering?


I don't know the exact details but IIRC yes. Biden quotes the full cost at something around 30 trillion for whatever span of time he's using, but the key part according to Bernie is that 1) you will be driving costs down and making savings and 2) you can divert funding from programs that will become obsolete, so the actual needed funding is half that or less.

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 2:07:17 PM
#376:


30 trillion over 10 years is the number Bernie claims it will be. Others estimate it will be significantly more because covering everything without copays or deductibles should drive up usage.

Anyway, I dont think the DoD point is a bad one at all. You frequently hear people on the left say things like nobody asks how we can pay for increases in the military budget or tax cuts or X or Y or Z, so its a double standard to demand that we say how were going to pay for M4A, but the fact is that M4A is way more expensive than anything else. It would close to double the total federal budget, and Bernies proposed taxes iirc dont fully cover the cost.

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DoomTheGyarados
10/17/19 2:10:51 PM
#377:


One of them is Healthcare for everyone, the other is military might we largely do not even need and bloat.

Also Bernie's proposed taxes cover a lot of it (such as the Stock market tax) and yes people's taxes to the government increase but they save money. It makes perfect sense and it is why so many countries already do it.
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Kenri
10/17/19 2:12:14 PM
#378:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Lets put this in perspective: if you eliminate every single solitary soldier, tank, satellite, nuclear weapon, eliminate the Pentagon and it would only pay for 4 months of Medicare for All. 4 months.
Really the 4 months of M4A just seem like an added bonus, when it's put like this.

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red sox 777
10/17/19 2:15:06 PM
#379:


red13n posted...
Pence strokes Trump's ego by citing his decisive action on...admonishing Turkey. Then announces they have agreed to a 120 hour cease fire so the kurds can run away before Turkey resumes murdering them.

Murder area now being called "safe zone".


I hope Pence made clear to Erdogan that the US will not help Turkey if the war goes badly for them and the Kurds/Syria/Russia invade Turkey.
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Dancedreamer
10/17/19 2:17:51 PM
#380:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Anyway, I dont think the DoD point is a bad one at all. You frequently hear people on the left say things like nobody asks how we can pay for increases in the military budget or tax cuts or X or Y or Z, so its a double standard to demand that we say how were going to pay for M4A, but the fact is that M4A is way more expensive than anything else. It would close to double the total federal budget, and Bernies proposed taxes iirc dont fully cover the cost.


That doesn't make it any less of a double standard.
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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 2:18:02 PM
#381:


Wow what a huge coincidence that the only possible location to host G-7 is a Trump property! Im sure this decision was totally on the level!

https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/1184874573956861952?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 2:27:42 PM
#382:


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1184897630272458753

"Congratulations to 'tough man' Erdogan for totally rolling me!"

And he's STILL INVITING ERDOGAN TO THE WHITE HOUSE?????

WHAT

THE

FUCK

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Corrik7
10/17/19 2:36:08 PM
#383:


Yeah, Trump isn't looking good with this situation.

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Jakyl25
10/17/19 2:39:38 PM
#384:


Corrik7 posted...
Yeah, Trump isn't looking good with this situation.


He has more information than we do when he makes these decisions. Why judge him?
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Corrik7
10/17/19 2:51:56 PM
#385:


Jakyl25 posted...
He has more information than we do when he makes these decisions. Why judge him?
I said he is not looking good with the situation.

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 3:10:07 PM
#386:


Mulvaney also admitted a quid pro quo with Ukraine, saying get over it

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red sox 777
10/17/19 3:12:57 PM
#387:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Wow what a huge coincidence that the only possible location to host G-7 is a Trump property! Im sure this decision was totally on the level!

https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/1184874573956861952?s=21


Gamefaqs has also been showing me ads for Trump Doral.
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red sox 777
10/17/19 3:17:07 PM
#388:


Didn't Reagan collude with Iran to influence the 1980 election? Or was that a fiction created by Democrats?
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Jakyl25
10/17/19 3:17:33 PM
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red sox 777
10/17/19 3:19:39 PM
#390:


Jakyl25 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Mulvaney also admitted a quid pro quo with Ukraine, saying get over it


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mulvaney-acknowledges-trump-held-ukraine-aid-political-reasons-get-over-n1068256


I call on Moveon.org to immediately honor their name and original purpose and call on the country to move on from this impeachment investigation of a corrupt president.
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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 3:32:07 PM
#391:


https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/1184906295817789442?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 3:35:14 PM
#392:


https://twitter.com/journo_christal/status/1184908772113899523?s=21

I think Im pretty confident that Romney will end up voting to remove Trump

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 3:49:05 PM
#393:


Actually a pretty good thread on Cummings by Trey Gowdy of all people:

https://twitter.com/tgowdysc/status/1184827474443673600?s=21

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/17/19 3:52:42 PM
#394:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/journo_christal/status/1184908772113899523?s=21

I think Im pretty confident that Romney will end up voting to remove Trump


So we need what, 19 more defectors?

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/19 3:53:37 PM
#395:


19 assuming all Dems (not positive well keep Manchin)

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Corrik7
10/17/19 4:04:29 PM
#396:


GM UAW have a tentative deal.

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SgtSphynx
10/17/19 4:08:48 PM
#397:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Actually a pretty good thread on Cummings by Trey Gowdy of all people:

https://twitter.com/tgowdysc/status/1184827474443673600?s=21

If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy.
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Corrik7
10/17/19 4:18:17 PM
#398:


SgtSphynx posted...
If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy.
Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves.

That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat.

Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold.

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Jakyl25
10/17/19 4:34:00 PM
#399:


As has been explained a million times, its not about what George W Bush believes, its about the war crimes he committed
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Jakyl25
10/17/19 4:36:42 PM
#400:


And it would be the same criticism from many (not all admittedly) if she was hanging out with Obama
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Jakyl25
10/17/19 4:37:56 PM
#401:


Also I resent being called an American first

Im a human first. Countries are human creations. They exist to serve us, not us to serve them.
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