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ChaosTonyV4 10/17/19 4:45:39 PM #402:	Corrik7 posted... SgtSphynx posted... If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy. Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold. Unbelievably ironic post --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:928895611] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>SgtSphynx posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy.</quote>Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold. </quote> Unbelievably ironic post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 10/17/19 4:45:42 PM #403:	Corrik7 posted... Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. Mostly because Republicans have rarely shown the ability to do that. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:928895613] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. </quote> Mostly because Republicans have rarely shown the ability to do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 10/17/19 4:49:15 PM #404:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik7 posted... SgtSphynx posted... If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy. Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold. Unbelievably ironic post Now now, dont be like that. Often, self-reflection is among the most difficult things people can do. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:928895774] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>SgtSphynx posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't attached to his twitter, I wouldn't believe you that it was from Trey Gowdy.</quote>Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold. </quote> Unbelievably ironic post</quote> Now now, dont be like that. Often, self-reflection is among the most difficult things people can do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 10/17/19 5:02:25 PM #405:	Corrik7 posted... Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold. If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:928896351] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, it is hard for some of you to believe that people can set aside differences in political beliefs and still value, honor, and respect others whose views differ from your own because so few of you seem to embody that in yourselves. That is why Ellen hanging out with George Bush can be slammed so vehemently and it be so hard for you to believe that a Republican can say something honoring a deceased Democrat. Many of you have forgotten we are Americans first in your crusades. I hope Gowdy and Ellen and hell Tulsi can start to open your eyes some to your narrow views you hold.</quote> If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:05:20 PM #406:	Suprak the Stud posted... If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person. They are a good example of those who can't separate politics from life. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928896468] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person.</quote>They are a good example of those who can't separate politics from life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:06:37 PM #407:	Jakyl25 posted... As has been explained a million times, its not about what George W Bush believes, its about the war crimes he committed George Bush has committed no "war crimes" that basically every single president of the United States hasn't also. If you wanna go down this preposterously dumb route, then be consistent and call Obama and etc one. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928896527] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>As has been explained a million times, its not about what George W Bush believes, its about the war crimes he committed</quote>George Bush has committed no "war crimes" that basically every single president of the United States hasn't also. If you wanna go down this preposterously dumb route, then be consistent and call Obama and etc one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:17:29 PM #408:	Jakyl25 posted... And it would be the same criticism from many (not all admittedly) if she was hanging out with Obama Obama is also a war criminal --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928896972] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>And it would be the same criticism from many (not all admittedly) if she was hanging out with Obama</quote> Obama is also a war criminal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:18:39 PM #409:	Corrik7 posted... Suprak the Stud posted... If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person. They are a good example of those who can't separate politics from life. Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897019] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>If you want to feel especially bad, you can check the responses to Gowdy's Twitter post and find a bunch of people telling him they don't trust him any more because Cummings was a terrible person.</quote>They are a good example of those who can't separate politics from life. </quote> Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:23:49 PM #410:	Like Im curious how far Corrik can take this If Ellen was being buddy-buddy with, say, Richard Spencer, would that just be a good example in your opinion of people with different political beliefs getting along? How about David Duke? Rodrigo Duterte? Timothy McVeigh? Where on this scale does it start to become an issue for you? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897238] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Like Im curious how far Corrik can take this If Ellen was being buddy-buddy with, say, Richard Spencer, would that just be a good example in your opinion of people with different political beliefs getting along? How about David Duke? Rodrigo Duterte? Timothy McVeigh? Where on this scale does it start to become an issue for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:27:39 PM #411:	Jakyl25 posted... Obama is also a war criminal That is ridiculous. Anyone who has that belief set is just being ridiculous and is basically just anti-government. If that's your real view then if you like Bernie or whatever you should be hoping they don't win so they won't become a war criminal. It's so outlandish. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928897371] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Obama is also a war criminal</quote>That is ridiculous. Anyone who has that belief set is just being ridiculous and is basically just anti-government. If that's your real view then if you like Bernie or whatever you should be hoping they don't win so they won't become a war criminal. It's so outlandish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:29:06 PM #412:	Jakyl25 posted... Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928897429] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote>Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:33:31 PM #413:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Obama is also a war criminal That is ridiculous. Anyone who has that belief set is just being ridiculous and is basically just anti-government. If that's your real view then if you like Bernie or whatever you should be hoping they don't win so they won't become a war criminal. It's so outlandish. Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897597] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Obama is also a war criminal</quote>That is ridiculous. Anyone who has that belief set is just being ridiculous and is basically just anti-government. If that's your real view then if you like Bernie or whatever you should be hoping they don't win so they won't become a war criminal. It's so outlandish. </quote> Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:34:48 PM #414:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. So they dont REALLY matter --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897650] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote>Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. </quote> So they dont REALLY matter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 5:35:55 PM #415:	Jakyl25 posted... Like Im curious how far Corrik can take this If Ellen was being buddy-buddy with, say, Richard Spencer, would that just be a good example in your opinion of people with different political beliefs getting along? How about David Duke? Rodrigo Duterte? Timothy McVeigh? Where on this scale does it start to become an issue for you? I am totally okay with Ellen being buddy-buddy with any of them. They are people. They may be murderers, but they are still people. It doesn't mean she supports their beliefs or actions. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928897699] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Like Im curious how far Corrik can take this If Ellen was being buddy-buddy with, say, Richard Spencer, would that just be a good example in your opinion of people with different political beliefs getting along? How about David Duke? Rodrigo Duterte? Timothy McVeigh? Where on this scale does it start to become an issue for you?</quote> I am totally okay with Ellen being buddy-buddy with any of them. They are people. They may be murderers, but they are still people. It doesn't mean she supports their beliefs or actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:36:48 PM #416:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897735] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote>Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. </quote> Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 10/17/19 5:41:40 PM #417:	I think it's possible for people's political beliefs to inherently reflect one's character and whether or not they are worthy of respect. Some political differences like which form of tax collection is most optimal or whether money in the budget should be used on infrastructure or education might be able to be set aside, but I don't think that's true of all beliefs. And it's especially not true when you're discussing the politicians themselves and those beliefs result in actual policies being implemented which have actual effects on the lives of real people. --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever <cite>pyresword posted [p:928897945] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>I think it's possible for people's political beliefs to inherently reflect one's character and whether or not they are worthy of respect. Some political differences like which form of tax collection is most optimal or whether money in the budget should be used on infrastructure or education might be able to be set aside, but I don't think that's true of all beliefs. And it's especially not true when you're discussing the politicians themselves and those beliefs result in actual policies being implemented which have actual effects on the lives of real people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:43:03 PM #418:	pyresword posted... And it's especially not true when you're discussing the politicians themselves and those beliefs result in actual policies being implemented which have actual effects on the lives of real people. Apparently they dont affect the lives of real people THAT much --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928897991] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote> And it's especially not true when you're discussing the politicians themselves and those beliefs result in actual policies being implemented which have actual effects on the lives of real people.</quote> Apparently they dont affect the lives of real people THAT much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:45:46 PM #419:	While Im here ranting, I will toss out there that the standings are still Trump > W Bush as Presidents But Trump is catching up really quickly and it surely will not remain that way into a second term. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898108] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>While Im here ranting, I will toss out there that the standings are still Trump > W Bush as Presidents But Trump is catching up really quickly and it surely will not remain that way into a second term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:47:18 PM #420:	Jakyl25 posted... Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief? Yes. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928898181] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief?</quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 5:47:29 PM #421:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Uh, Trump treats the migrants the same way he does everyone else. With cold-blooded calculation of what's in DJT's best interests. If those migrants were going to vote for him, you bet there would be a Trump hotel at every border crossing with GOP volunteers ready to register them to vote. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928898193] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote>Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. </quote> Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote> Uh, Trump treats the migrants the same way he does everyone else. With cold-blooded calculation of what's in DJT's best interests. If those migrants were going to vote for him, you bet there would be a Trump hotel at every border crossing with GOP volunteers ready to register them to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:48:19 PM #422:	red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life? Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Uh, Trump treats the migrants the same way he does everyone else. With cold-blooded calculation of what's in DJT's best interests. If those migrants were going to vote for him, you get there would be a Trump hotel at every border crossing with GOP volunteers ready to register them to vote. Can we arrange this? That would be pretty cool --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898229] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you honestly feel like politics arent real life and dont affect real life?</quote>Politics are just like religion and etc. Disagreeing on them doesn't mean you can't set them aside to be friends or do things together or at least respect one another. </quote> Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote> Uh, Trump treats the migrants the same way he does everyone else. With cold-blooded calculation of what's in DJT's best interests. If those migrants were going to vote for him, you get there would be a Trump hotel at every border crossing with GOP volunteers ready to register them to vote.</quote> Can we arrange this? That would be pretty cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:49:01 PM #423:	Jakyl25 posted... Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928898254] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote>Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:49:50 PM #424:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief? Yes. I honestly have never seen someone with more blind respect for anything than Corrik has for the status quo --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898292] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Is being anti-government inherently a ridiculous belief?</quote>Yes. </quote> I honestly have never seen someone with more blind respect for anything than Corrik has for the status quo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:51:27 PM #425:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898365] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote>Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. </quote> Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 5:53:48 PM #426:	Jakyl25 posted... Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? He has a responsibility to America's citizens because he is the President of the United States and the executive branch in the government, which the government is here in order to protect and serve the citizens of the United States. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928898459] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote>He has a responsibility to America's citizens because he is the President of the United States and the executive branch in the government, which the government is here in order to protect and serve the citizens of the United States. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 5:56:35 PM #427:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928898575] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote>Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. </quote> Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote> That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 5:59:30 PM #428:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? He has a responsibility to America's citizens because he is the President of the United States and the executive branch in the government, which the government is here in order to protect and serve the citizens of the United States. So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898678] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote>He has a responsibility to America's citizens because he is the President of the United States and the executive branch in the government, which the government is here in order to protect and serve the citizens of the United States. </quote> So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:00:28 PM #429:	red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders. The trick there is that the government decides who a citizen is --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928898727] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote>Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. </quote> Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote> That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders.</quote> The trick there is that the government decides who a citizen is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 6:04:30 PM #430:	Jakyl25 posted... So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous? Because anarchy is ridiculous. I guess you cannot inherently know that cuz that means from birth, but anyone should be able to grasp why anarchy is bad and why laws, governments, and etc are necessary. There is a reason that civilizations across the globe that flourished all developed these same ideas. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928898894] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous?</quote>Because anarchy is ridiculous. I guess you cannot inherently know that cuz that means from birth, but anyone should be able to grasp why anarchy is bad and why laws, governments, and etc are necessary. There is a reason that civilizations across the globe that flourished all developed these same ideas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 6:05:50 PM #431:	Jakyl25 posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants? Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil? That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders. The trick there is that the government decides who a citizen is Well, the directors of a corporation also maintain the records of who is a shareholder. In both cases, people who disagree with the determination can challenge it in the courts. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928898960] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Also why cant Trump set politics aside and be nice to the refugees/migrants?</quote>Maybe he would be able to have a nice outting with them if the chances ever came about. He doesn't have to not support our national sovereignty and borders to do so. He has a responsibility to America and it's citizens. </quote> Why does he only have responsibility to its citizens? Why does that responsibility not extend to everyone on American soil?</quote> That is sort of the definition of citizen, no? A republic's government's duty is to its citizens, just like a corporation's directors' duty is to its shareholders.</quote> The trick there is that the government decides who a citizen is</quote> Well, the directors of a corporation also maintain the records of who is a shareholder. In both cases, people who disagree with the determination can challenge it in the courts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:24:47 PM #432:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous? Because anarchy is ridiculous. I guess you cannot inherently know that cuz that means from birth, but anyone should be able to grasp why anarchy is bad and why laws, governments, and etc are necessary. There is a reason that civilizations across the globe that flourished all developed these same ideas. The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928899737] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>So why is being against that entire system and thought process inherently ridiculous?</quote>Because anarchy is ridiculous. I guess you cannot inherently know that cuz that means from birth, but anyone should be able to grasp why anarchy is bad and why laws, governments, and etc are necessary. There is a reason that civilizations across the globe that flourished all developed these same ideas. </quote> The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 6:26:11 PM #433:	Jakyl25 posted... The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928899788] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy</quote>Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 10/17/19 6:28:55 PM #434:	33 posts on this page but's nothing but jakyl and 1 pyre post --- GuessMyUserName's account's very own account <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:928899880] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>33 posts on this page but's nothing but jakyl and 1 pyre post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 6:30:23 PM #435:	Grimlyn posted... 33 posts on this page but's nothing but jakyl and 1 pyre post That seems like your fault. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928899933] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Grimlyn posted...</cite> <quote>33 posts on this page but's nothing but jakyl and 1 pyre post</quote> That seems like your fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:30:52 PM #436:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. Im a fucking socialist, you think I want to abolish all government? I am anti-government in the sense that Im against OUR government. Im not anti-government conceptually --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928899946] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy</quote>Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. </quote> Im a fucking socialist, you think I want to abolish all government? I am anti-government in the sense that Im against OUR government. Im not anti-government conceptually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/17/19 6:32:49 PM #437:	To be fair to Corrik I read your question as anti-government period rather than anti a specific realIzation of government too! --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:928900034] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>To be fair to Corrik I read your question as anti-government period rather than anti a specific realIzation of government too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:34:16 PM #438:	Fair. I did equivocate a little as I do not believe that anarchy is a ridiculous stance The end result of Marxism is anarchy! We are just a loong way from that point --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928900095] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Fair. I did equivocate a little as I do not believe that anarchy is a ridiculous stance The end result of Marxism is anarchy! We are just a loong way from that point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 6:34:48 PM #439:	Jakyl25 posted... Im a fucking socialist, you think I want to abolish all government? I am anti-government in the sense that Im against OUR government. Im not anti-government conceptually That's cool. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928900117] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Im a fucking socialist, you think I want to abolish all government? I am anti-government in the sense that Im against OUR government. Im not anti-government conceptually</quote>That's cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:36:27 PM #440:	Im still really salty about being called an American first --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928900183] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Im still really salty about being called an American first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 6:37:11 PM #441:	Yeah, I was about to say. The end state of Communism is anarchy. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928900214] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I was about to say. The end state of Communism is anarchy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 10/17/19 6:39:21 PM #442:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. Are the only options our government or anarchy? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:928900310] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>The opposite of our government is bad is not total anarchy</quote>Okay. Anti government isn't anarchy. Got ya. </quote> Are the only options our government or anarchy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/17/19 6:40:42 PM #443:	Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:928900347] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 6:41:10 PM #444:	Jakyl25 posted... Im still really salty about being called an American first Lmfao. This comment happened. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928900369] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Im still really salty about being called an American first</quote>Lmfao. This comment happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/17/19 6:42:34 PM #445:	LordoftheMorons posted... Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society. But he is a war criminal. He should literally be in a jail cell for his crimes. /Sarcasm --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:928900423] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society.</quote>But he is a war criminal. He should literally be in a jail cell for his crimes. /Sarcasm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:43:22 PM #446:	Not shunned by society. Society contains a lot of neoliberals! Just shunned by progressives, while also recognizing that conservatives are shunning him for entirely different reasons and you shouldnt join in their revelry about it. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928900460] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Not shunned by society. Society contains a lot of neoliberals! Just shunned by progressives, while also recognizing that conservatives are shunning him for entirely different reasons and you shouldnt join in their revelry about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:44:32 PM #447:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Im still really salty about being called an American first Lmfao. This comment happened. You claim that you try to see all sides of an issue Can you comprehend why some people would be disgusted to defined first and foremost by their nationality? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928900502] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Im still really salty about being called an American first</quote>Lmfao. This comment happened. </quote> You claim that you try to see all sides of an issue Can you comprehend why some people would be disgusted to defined first and foremost by their nationality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/17/19 6:45:15 PM #448:	Corrik7 posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society. But he is a war criminal. He should literally be in a jail cell for his crimes. /Sarcasm Im also against prison as a punitive measures --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928900531] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Anyway, my view is that as president one is faced with tons of extremely difficult choices with no obvious correct answer, many of which only have bad answers and it's basically impossible for a president not to end up doing some things that are pretty bad, especially in retrospect. That certainly doesn't mean they can't be criticized for those or that they can't fuck up even in that context to a degree that they absolutely should be blamed for it (e.g. Bush with Iraq, or Trump with the Kurds), but I would certainly not say that Obama should be shunned by society.</quote>But he is a war criminal. He should literally be in a jail cell for his crimes. /Sarcasm </quote> Im also against prison as a punitive measures</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/17/19 6:46:35 PM #449:	Jakyl25 posted... Not shunned by society. Society contains a lot of neoliberals! Just shunned by progressives, while also recognizing that conservatives are shunning him for entirely different reasons and you shouldnt join in their revelry about it. Are you serious Jakyl? You're saying that people should shun each other over having different political beliefs? --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:928900582] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Not shunned by society. Society contains a lot of neoliberals! Just shunned by progressives, while also recognizing that conservatives are shunning him for entirely different reasons and you shouldnt join in their revelry about it.</quote> Are you serious Jakyl? You're saying that people should shun each other over having different political beliefs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/17/19 6:46:38 PM #450:	it is interesting that someone who repeatedly tells us that we're in a bubble is so often surprised to find out what a fair amount on the left believe like anyone even remotely aware of what the left thinks would know that the primary complaints leveled at Obama from them were foreign policy/drones and the extra judicial nature and casualties with their use and immigration (most deportations, etc.) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:928900585] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>it is interesting that someone who repeatedly tells us that we're in a bubble is so often surprised to find out what a fair amount on the left believe like anyone even remotely aware of what the left thinks would know that the primary complaints leveled at Obama from them were foreign policy/drones and the extra judicial nature and casualties with their use and immigration (most deportations, etc.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 10/17/19 6:46:54 PM #451:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Im still really salty about being called an American first Lmfao. This comment happened. You claim that you try to see all sides of an issue Can you comprehend why some people would be disgusted to defined first and foremost by their nationality? I was just about to say, boy hes sure not trying to understand you at all. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:928900601] in Politics C... [t:78086502]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Im still really salty about being called an American first</quote>Lmfao. This comment happened. </quote> You claim that you try to see all sides of an issue Can you comprehend why some people would be disgusted to defined first and foremost by their nationality?</quote> I was just about to say, boy hes sure not trying to understand you at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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