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Grimlyn
10/12/19 12:47:56 PM
#151:


https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1183058592716541957

"Occasionally, while on the phone with foreign heads of state, Trump has handed the receiver to his daughter, Ivanka Trump, so she can talk with the leader."

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Jakyl25
10/12/19 12:51:14 PM
#152:


Perfect phone calls
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Jakyl25
10/12/19 1:04:14 PM
#153:


Trump has big goals

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182889529499422720?s=21

"We're going to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the moon" -- Trump closes by indicating he's unaware that there has already been a manned moon landing.

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Corrik7
10/12/19 1:17:37 PM
#154:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump has big goals

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182889529499422720?s=21
Doesn't indicate that.

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Jakyl25
10/12/19 1:21:27 PM
#155:


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
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Kenri
10/12/19 2:07:19 PM
#156:


Ashethan posted...
Suffragettes
The LGBT Movement
Montgomery Bus Boycott
The LGBT movement started with battles with the police at Compton's Cafeteria and Stonewall.

The US suffrage movement was (mostly) non-violent but the British one was backed by arson.

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Jakyl25
10/12/19 3:05:26 PM
#157:


https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1183069482522152960?s=21

Conservatives are super offended by being told they dont get to declare how other people get to live anymore
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LordoftheMorons
10/12/19 3:18:08 PM
#158:


https://twitter.com/richardengel/status/1183080487243407361?s=21

Fuck Trump

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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:18:54 PM
#159:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
You do if not paying cash.

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DoomTheGyarados
10/12/19 3:21:49 PM
#160:


Corrik7 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
You do if not paying cash.


Lmao

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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:21:55 PM
#161:


Corrik7 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
You do if not paying cash.


I have literally never been carded since I've become an adult and bought things with a credit/debit card.
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GildedFool
10/12/19 3:22:08 PM
#162:


Corrik7 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
You do if not paying cash.

You also don't need ID to leave the country.

...if you don't need to leave legally.
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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:25:07 PM
#163:


Corrik7 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182887331805777921?s=21

Does this accurately indicate that Trump believes you need ID to buy groceries?
You do if not paying cash.


What

No

As somebody who pretty much never uses cash, I have never once been asked for ID when buying groceries. From multiple states.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:27:06 PM
#164:


HashtagSEP posted...
What

No

As somebody who pretty much never uses cash, I have never once been asked for ID when buying groceries. From multiple states.
Your ID is supposed to be checked every time using a credit card or debit card, check, or cash assistance card.

Just because your cashier is not doing their job properly, doesn't mean they are not supposed to be.

They are supposed to verify signatures / check to see if it is signed on credit cards / debit cards. Supposed to verify identity on checks and cash assistance cards.

SEP weren't you a Kmart manager? That is down right embarrassing you do not know that.

Edit: Sorry, I am a bit off base in what I am saying. They have to ask for IDs if your credit / debit card is not signed to verify your the person who owns the card. So what I was explaining was a little bit wrong. Checks and cash assistance is as said above.

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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:28:46 PM
#165:


Corrik7 posted...
Your ID is supposed to be checked every time using a credit card or debit card, check, or cash assistance card.


Nope, it's actually the opposite. You are legally NOT required to provide ID, and anyone that asks for ID you can refuse and they still have to process the transaction.
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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:31:07 PM
#166:


Specifically, Mastercard and Visa explicitly prohibit retailers from requiring an ID to accept a properly signed card.
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LordoftheMorons
10/12/19 3:31:36 PM
#167:


https://twitter.com/rob_malley/status/1183051838389673985?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
10/12/19 3:32:17 PM
#168:


Corriks ability to give Trump the benefit of the doubt in literally any situation is amazing to behold

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Umbreon
10/12/19 3:32:58 PM
#169:


I don't even sign my card and I use it everywhere with no issue whatsoever.

I'm used to plausible deniability when you say something wrong, but this is utterly absurd.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:34:03 PM
#170:


Umbreon posted...
I don't even sign my card and I use it everywhere with no issue whatsoever.

I'm used to plausible deniability when you say something wrong, but this is utterly absurd.
They can refuse to let you use that card if not signed and you don't have ID. They are literally SUPPOSED to do this.

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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:34:19 PM
#171:


Corrik7 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
What

No

As somebody who pretty much never uses cash, I have never once been asked for ID when buying groceries. From multiple states.
Your ID is supposed to be checked every time using a credit card or debit card, check, or cash assistance card.

Just because your cashier is not doing their job properly, doesn't mean they are not supposed to be.

They are supposed to verify signatures / check to see if it is signed on credit cards / debit cards. Supposed to verify identity on checks and cash assistance cards.

SEP weren't you a Kmart manager? That is down right embarrassing you do not know that.

Edit: Sorry, I am a bit off base in what I am saying. They have to ask for IDs if your credit / debit card is not signed to verify your the person who owns the card. So what I was explaining was a little bit wrong. Checks and cash assistance is as said above.


So then yes, the average person does not need ID when buying groceries, glad we agree.
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Umbreon
10/12/19 3:34:20 PM
#172:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/rob_malley/status/1183051838389673985?s=21


Notice how Russia benefits from this while we get nothing. Working as intended. Perhaps we should be calling him Comrade Trump?
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Shaduln
10/12/19 3:35:21 PM
#173:


Corrik7 posted...
Umbreon posted...
I don't even sign my card and I use it everywhere with no issue whatsoever.

I'm used to plausible deniability when you say something wrong, but this is utterly absurd.
They can refuse to let you use that card if not signed and you don't have ID. They are literally SUPPOSED to do this.

No, they're supposed to ask you to sign it there. That's it. You're not even supposed to ask for ID if the card says to ask for ID instead of signing.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:36:19 PM
#174:


HashtagSEP posted...
So then yes, the average person does not need ID when buying groceries, glad we agree.
Average person doesn't sign their cards, as your faithful friends above showed above. And they should be IDed.

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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:37:37 PM
#175:


Shaduln posted...
No, they're supposed to ask you to sign it there. That's it. You're not even supposed to ask for ID if the card says to ask for ID instead of signing.
No, Shad. You can't sign the card unless the card holder. The card being signed authorizes anyone to use the card by the cardholder, which is why an ID isn't required for a signed card. And why I don't sign my cards cuz why would I authorize anyone to use mine lol. And no cashier should be asking you to sign a card. That authorizes it for anyone. Wtf.

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Umbreon
10/12/19 3:38:10 PM
#176:


Corrik7 posted...
Umbreon posted...
I don't even sign my card and I use it everywhere with no issue whatsoever.

I'm used to plausible deniability when you say something wrong, but this is utterly absurd.
They can refuse to let you use that card if not signed and you don't have ID. They are literally SUPPOSED to do this.


Has never happened in all the years I've used a card. I don't anticipate it ever will. The most I'm asked for is ID when I'm buying alcohol, in which case a driver's license suffices.

I don't get what you're trying to get out if this. If it's some weird trolling thing, we already acknowledge that you exist. Otherwise ???

You live in the United States iirc.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/12/19 3:38:22 PM
#177:


Corrik's scum game has really gone down hill.
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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:38:53 PM
#178:


You're trying to move goal posts now after being blatantly wrong.

And you tried to say it was embarrassing that I didn't know how it worked when you had no idea what you were even talking about.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:39:02 PM
#179:


Umbreon posted...
Has never happened in all the years I've used a card. I don't anticipate it ever will. The most I'm asked for is ID when I'm buying alcohol, in which case a driver's license suffices.

I don't get what you're trying to get out if this. If it's some weird trolling thing, we already acknowledge that you exist. Otherwise ???

You live in the United States iirc.
I worked as a cashier through all of college. I am well aware you need an ID if the card isn't signed. I never asked them for their ID. But, I know what I was supposed to be doing as I was trained in 3 different jobs the same thing.

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GildedFool
10/12/19 3:39:38 PM
#180:


Just admit Trump was wrong, jesus fuck.
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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:40:01 PM
#181:


Corrik7 posted...
Shaduln posted...
No, they're supposed to ask you to sign it there. That's it. You're not even supposed to ask for ID if the card says to ask for ID instead of signing.
No, Shad. You can't sign the card unless the card holder. The card being signed authorizes anyone to use the card by the cardholder, which is why an ID isn't required for a signed card. And why I don't sign my cards cuz why would I authorize anyone to use mine lol. And no cashier should be asking you to sign a card. That authorizes it for anyone. Wtf.


You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

If it's not signed, they're supposed to request that you show ID and sign the card.
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Umbreon
10/12/19 3:40:31 PM
#182:


Corrik7 posted...
. I never asked them for their ID.


Then why are you even having this conversation when you yourself didn't have the "ethics" to follow the supposed rules?
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:40:37 PM
#183:


HashtagSEP posted...
You're trying to move goal posts now after being blatantly wrong.

And you tried to say it was embarrassing that I didn't know how it worked when you had no idea what you were even talking about.
I didn't move anything. I edited a post to say I was explaining a bit wrong with a fully marked edit explaining that. And still have like a handful of people acting like that isn't how it is supposed to be when it is. Like how many people are acting like I am wrong when I am completely correct.

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Shaduln
10/12/19 3:40:45 PM
#184:


Signing your card doesn't authorize it for anyone wtf are you on. It's so the merchant can compare signatures.

Also, I just read it up and I'm wrong, you're supposed to ask them to sign it and get an id if it's unsigned according to Visa and MC. But no one does that anyway.
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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:41:13 PM
#185:


Jesus Christ, Corrik, just say Trump is wrong for once in your life. It's not that hard.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:41:26 PM
#186:


HashtagSEP posted...
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

If it's not signed, they're supposed to request that you show ID and sign the card.
You do not have to sign a card ever if you are the card holder. Like, holy fuck. Signing it authorizes anyone holding the card to use it.

LMFAO.


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GildedFool
10/12/19 3:42:03 PM
#187:


Corrik7 posted...
I didn't move anything. I edited a post to say I was explaining a bit wrong with a fully marked edit explaining that. And still have like a handful of people acting like that isn't how it is supposed to be when it is. Like how many people are acting like I am wrong when I am completely correct.

You said you need ID to pay for groceries, "If you're not paying cash."

Are you wrong, or are you right?
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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:42:15 PM
#188:


I mean it's literally in comparison to "you don't need ID to vote" WHEN YOU FUCKING DO.

You cannot register to vote without proper ID.
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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:43:38 PM
#189:


Corrik7 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

If it's not signed, they're supposed to request that you show ID and sign the card.
You do not have to sign a card ever if you are the card holder. Like, holy fuck. Signing it authorizes anyone holding the card to use it.

LMFAO.



What? No, holy crap are you wrong

Visa and Mastercard SPECIFICALLY instruct you that if a card is not signed, you are to ask for their ID, request that they sign the card, and compare the signature they just wrote on the card to the one on their ID.

You don't know anything holy crap stop flailing

Also signed cards are supposed to be compared to the signature on the receipt.
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GildedFool
10/12/19 3:45:27 PM
#190:


https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/global/support-legal/documents/card-acceptance-guidelines-visa-merchants.pdf

Page 36 of the document, which is 38 of the PDF.

Unsigned Cards

While checking card security features, you should also make sure that the card is signed. An unsigned card is considered invalid and should not be accepted. If a customer gives you an unsigned card, the following steps must be taken:

Check the cardholders ID. Ask the cardholder for some form of official government identification, such as a drivers license or passport. Where permissible by law, the ID serial number and expiration date should be written on the sales receipt before you complete the transaction.
Ask the customer to sign the card. The card should be signed within your full view, and the signature checked against the customers signature on the ID. A refusal to sign means the card is still invalid and cannot be accepted.
Ask the customer for a different signed Visa card.
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Umbreon
10/12/19 3:45:46 PM
#191:


Let's not lose track of the subject.

Trump claimed you needed ID to buy groceries, but didn't need ID to vote.

Both statements are laughably incorrect.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:46:41 PM
#192:


https://credit.org/2017/05/05/should-i-sign-the-back-of-my-credit-card/

I guess I am the asshole for once. Go figure. Happens to the best of us.



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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:47:13 PM
#193:


Like Trump's whole argument is we put more verification into how we buy groceries than we do on being able to vote and it's so unbelievably false but Corrik needs to keep fucking that chicken and claiming "Trump has a point."

He doesn't. He absolutely fucking doesn't. Please stop being a moron.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:48:54 PM
#194:


TheRock1525 posted...
Like Trump's whole argument is we put more verification into how we buy groceries than we do on being able to vote and it's so unbelievably false but Corrik needs to keep fucking that chicken and claiming "Trump has a point."

He doesn't. He absolutely fucking doesn't. Please stop being a moron.
Trump is theoretically correct but in a non-likely way. As we see most people don't sign their cards and are supposed to be asked for ID if not. However, not in actual reality is it done. Checks which no longer are used much at all. And, in cash assistance always in which Trump probably thinks most people are on anyways lol.

However, with self-check outs and people not asking for IDs on cards, he is in actuality incorrect.

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TheRock1525
10/12/19 3:49:31 PM
#195:


Corrik7 posted...
Trump is theoretically correct


No he isn't.

It's the same guy who thinks clean coal is pulling coal out of the ground and cleaning it.

He is a moron. You are following a moron.
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:50:02 PM
#196:


TheRock1525 posted...
No he isn't.

It's the same guy who thinks clean coal is pulling coal out of the ground and cleaning it.

He is a moron. You are following a moron.
Who am I following.

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DoomTheGyarados
10/12/19 3:50:09 PM
#197:


No, Trump is just wrong.
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HashtagSEP
10/12/19 3:50:56 PM
#198:


Corrik I will respect you if you just accept the L on this one and agree it was a dumb statement by Trump
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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:51:10 PM
#199:


TheRock1525 posted...
No he isn't.

It's the same guy who thinks clean coal is pulling coal out of the ground and cleaning it.

He is a moron. You are following a moron.
Most politicians are idiots when talking about energy. Have you heard Clinton talk about coal or your 2020 nominees talk about nuclear energy.

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Corrik7
10/12/19 3:51:52 PM
#200:


Or Trump on wind lol.

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