Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 242: China, in fact, DOES Care

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Honestly Biden and Tulsi are a toss up for the worst

I might have to say Tulsi is the worst just because shes so adamant about We cant do anything that may upset the right!
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Tulsi Gabbard is basically the Dave Rubin of presidential candidates

https://twitter.com/devindwyer/status/1182789831874826242?s=21

Turkey deliberately targeting US bases so we will depart

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/devindwyer/status/1182789831874826242?s=21

Turkey deliberately targeting US bases so we will depart

This sounds incredibly dumb on Turkey's part. Deliberately attacking US bases is an act of war.
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Yeah, seems like the type of thing youd only do if you were confident that the President of the United States wouldnt hold you accountable regardless of what you did...!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Yeah, seems like the type of thing youd only do if you were confident that the President of the United States wouldnt hold you accountable regardless of what you did...!

They would also be dumb to trust a promise from the President of the United States!
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red sox 777 posted...

I can see it now. Tulsi Gabbard becomes the first female president in 2024.....running as a Republican.

I'm all for that. She would be a great Republican candidate.

It's like the only way to get true non partisanship. Cause if the dems try the Rs wont go for it. But the Dems will jump at the chance if the Rs push for it.
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red sox 777 posted...

This sounds incredibly dumb on Turkey's part. Deliberately attacking US bases is an act of war.

Yeah, I trust these sources on Twitter as far as I can spit, and I don't spit. They are going to say anything to try and make Trump look bad. I find it hard to believe that the US leaves Syria for Turkey and then Turkey responds by deliberately attacking US bases. Because the moment that ever happens the wrath of God from our military is coming.

But, who knows... Maybe Trump is playing "4D chess" to help our faithful allies, the Kurds, by finding a cassus belli to wipe out Turkey and give them a Kurdistan.

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Corrik7 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

This sounds incredibly dumb on Turkey's part. Deliberately attacking US bases is an act of war.

Yeah, I trust these sources on Twitter as far as I can spit, and I don't spit. They are going to say anything to try and make Trump look bad. I find it hard to believe that the US leaves Syria for Turkey and then Turkey responds by deliberately attacking US bases. Because the moment that ever happens the wrath of God from our military is coming.

But, who knows... Maybe Trump is playing "4D chess" to help our faithful allies, the Kurds, by finding a cassus belli to wipe out Turkey and give them a Kurdistan.

Or maybe to get Russia Constantinople! They've wanted it for over 100 years.....now Putin can do what all previous Russian leaders failed to do.
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Jakyl25 posted...

This is...quite a worldview.

The system is irreparably partisan, but we should all support the outcomes!

Fix the system, don't disobey the system. If the system is messed up, you fix it from inside through your representatives you vote for. You don't just flout law and order.

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red sox 777 posted...

Or maybe to get Russia Constantinople! They've wanted it for over 100 years.....now Putin can do what all previous Russian leaders failed to do.

Only a 100 years?

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Trump admitting on camera that hes allowing the Saudis to literally hire the US military as fucking mercenaries:

https://twitter.com/abc/status/1182770015587553280?s=21

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Trump admitting on camera that hes allowing the Saudis to literally hire the US military as fucking mercenaries:

https://twitter.com/abc/status/1182770015587553280?s=21

That's not what he said, again embellished. He is saying a country is finally financially supporting the US troops in their country and their costs, which he stated South Korea and others were pushing the cost onto us instead of financially paying for the troops and bases protecting them and passing it onto the American citizen.

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Hes sending our troops there to protect the Saudi oil fields. Hes justifying it by saying theyll pay us. Its not in the USs interest to be doing this, but Trump doesnt give a shit because hes helping his buddy Mister Bonesaw out.

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It's literally what he said. Live on camera and everything.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Hes sending our troops there to protect the Saudi oil fields. Hes justifying it by saying theyll pay us. Its not in the USs interest to be doing this, but Trump doesnt give a shit because hes helping his buddy Mister Bonesaw out.

He is supporting an ally, just like South Korea. You are grasping at straws and frankly it is getting relatively pathetic how bad you are grasping at them. You deliberately leave out context, twist the statements to make them seem foolish, and then have the laughable position to act like he is the idiot. C'mon, dude. You have easier things to go after. This is absolutely relatable to his comments on South Korea and others on paying for troops stationed there for their protection.

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Corrik7 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

This is...quite a worldview.

The system is irreparably partisan, but we should all support the outcomes!

Fix the system, don't disobey the system. If the system is messed up, you fix it from inside through your representatives you vote for. You don't just flout law and order.

thats putting a lot of faith in a broken system somehow working well enough to fix itself
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Either its in our interest to be helping them, in which case we shouldnt be making our allies pay like its a protection racket, or its not in our interest and we shouldnt be deploying troops at all. Trump is simultaneously saying he cant possibly stand by the Kurds and has to abandon them to the mercy of Erdogan, and at the same time we can spare even more troops to defend fucking oil fields? Theres no universe in which that set of decisions is sane.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

thats putting a lot of faith in a broken system somehow working well enough to fix itself

That's what our country is built on.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Either its in our interest to be helping them, in which case we shouldnt be making our allies pay like its a protection racket, or its not in our interest and we shouldnt be deploying troops at all. Trump is simultaneously saying he cant possibly stand by the Kurds and has to abandon them to the mercy of Erdogan, and at the same time we can spare even more troops to defend fucking oil fields? Theres no universe in which that set of decisions is sane.

Um......I don't think Trump sees a difference between an alliance and a protection racket.
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red sox 777 posted...

Um......I don't think Trump sees a difference between an alliance and a protection racket.

I agree, and Im saying that thats a huge problem!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Either its in our interest to be helping them, in which case we shouldnt be making our allies pay like its a protection racket, or its not in our interest and we shouldnt be deploying troops at all. Trump is simultaneously saying he cant possibly stand by the Kurds and has to abandon them to the mercy of Erdogan, and at the same time we can spare even more troops to defend fucking oil fields? Theres no universe in which that set of decisions is sane.

Absolutely a country should be paying for troops being used to help with their defense if they can.

No, Trump is saying he sided with a NATO ally sovereign nation in their request for them to leave the region for them to campaign against what they seem is terrorists to their nation over a loose coalition of units that were auxiliaries for our battles on the front lines in a mutually beneficial campaign that has since ended.

Saudi Arabia is a sovereign nation who is, with Israel, our main bastion of influence in the Middle East and responsible for the majority of our Arab coalition of support we have. Who also largely is responsible for the entire oil market and preventing a crash of oil, which is to the benefit of the world economy.

The fact you are stating we should value a loose non-sovereign group of revolutionary auxiliaries over a full fledged NATO ally is quite wild. Yinz would be the first ones losing their shit if Turkey left NATO and joined an alliance with Russia over USA support of what they seem is terrorists also.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Hes sending our troops there to protect the Saudi oil fields. Hes justifying it by saying theyll pay us. Its not in the USs interest to be doing this, but Trump doesnt give a shit because hes helping his buddy Mister Bonesaw out.

You mean our oil fields. Saudi Arabia signed a contract with American oil companies in 1933 giving them the exclusive right to develop oil in Saudi Arabia. They did, forming a company called Aramco. In the 70s Saudi Arabia nationalized Aramco.

Mr. President, I think maybe we should hold Saudi Arabia to the deal that was struck and take back our oil!
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Lmao I love Corrik saying its good Trump is supporting a NATO ally murder people who are actual allies, when Trumps states position is that NATO is bad and we should leave
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Lmao I love Corrik saying its good Trump is supporting a NATO ally murder people who are actual allies, when Trumps states position is that NATO is bad and we should leave

Leave it to Tony to not know what Trump's position is and to twist it to whatever he thinks it should be to be foolish.

His position is that NATO allies need to start giving their fairshare to the alliance as agreed upon as we are supporting NATO almost ourselves despite the agreement of GDP investments agreed upon. That if they don't want to provide their fairshare then we need to re-evaluate it and leave it possibly.

If anything, that directly supports what he means by finally an ally paying for the support they are receiving fully.

And, yes, if we deemed someone terrorists, we would expect our allies to leave areas in which they may be working with said terrorists for our attacks also.

The Kurds literal goal is to create their own nation of Kurdistan. That goal includes the acquiring of land in Turkey and other nations in creating said nation. Them considering them terrorists and revolutionaries against the national interest is pretty much a no brainer.

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Corrik7 posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

thats putting a lot of faith in a broken system somehow working well enough to fix itself

That's what our country is built on.

Fucking WHAT?

Our country is built on armed rebellion dude
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Man if only the Kurds could pay Trump to fight Turkey
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You love no brainers for a reason that i think is obvious to anyone who has read a post of yours
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Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

thats putting a lot of faith in a broken system somehow working well enough to fix itself

That's what our country is built on.

Fucking WHAT?

Our country is built on armed rebellion dude

Just work within the system my dude.

Appeal to the King and he'll lower taxes.
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Remember when all the freedom riders didn't ride busses and instead sent some very stern letters to their Congressional representatives?
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armed rebellion is just how we got the space for building

but then the foundation everything else is built on is doing stuff in a system

and the walls are the separation of powers

and then theres a window labeled pork barrel spending

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https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1182823527046627328?s=21


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DoD statement on the Turks firing at US soldiers since Corrik said he didnt believe it:

https://twitter.com/paulszoldra/status/1182797475460997120?s=21

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Corrik7 posted...

His position is that NATO allies need to start giving their fairshare to the alliance as agreed upon as we are supporting NATO almost ourselves despite the agreement of GDP investments agreed upon. That if they don't want to provide their fairshare then we need to re-evaluate it and leave it possibly.

If anything, that directly supports what he means by finally an ally paying for the support they are receiving fully.

Lmao I said is bad and we should leave and your response is he thinks its bad and we should possibly leave.

Basically the same thing.

And literally the NATO ally I was referring to is Turkey, not Saudi Arabia, so your point about helping them and them doing their share doesnt apply: Were not helping Turkey, were just letting them murder Kurds
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LordoftheMorons posted...

DoD statement on the Turks firing at US soldiers since Corrik said he didnt believe it:

https://twitter.com/paulszoldra/status/1182797475460997120?s=21

Said I didn't believe Trump "let them attack our troops". He didn't say hey we will move out then you can attack our troops if you want to, buds.

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I was saying he let them attack our troops in that this was a foreseeable consequence of his actions.

He did let them attack the Kurds even in the sense youre interpreting it, though!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I was saying he let them attack our troops in that this was a foreseeable consequence of his actions.

He did let them attack the Kurds even in the sense youre interpreting it, though!

Of course he let them attack the Kurds. I said he didn't let them attack US troops, and that is not a foreseeable action.

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Jakyl25 posted...

So if Trump actually provided intelligence to Turkey to help them attack Americans in Syria, would that be a big deal to Republicans?

We were talking about this A DAY AGO that it would be a consequence of how haphazardly this was all handled

Tide goes in, tide goes out, cant explain that.
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https://twitter.com/jonallendc/status/1182838922617020421?s=21

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Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

I was saying he let them attack our troops in that this was a foreseeable consequence of his actions.

He did let them attack the Kurds even in the sense youre interpreting it, though!

Of course he let them attack the Kurds. I said he didn't let them attack US troops, and that is not a foreseeable action.

It should be pretty damn foreseeable if your IQ is above room temperature.
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kevwaffles posted...

Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

I was saying he let them attack our troops in that this was a foreseeable consequence of his actions.

He did let them attack the Kurds even in the sense youre interpreting it, though!

Of course he let them attack the Kurds. I said he didn't let them attack US troops, and that is not a foreseeable action.

It should be pretty damn foreseeable if your IQ is above room temperature.

Celsius
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https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1182819516042170368?s=21

lmaooooo

Watch until the end

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I dont understand how someone can get that brainwashed
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Peaceful protest alone has never worked in the history of its practice.

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Peaceful protest alone has never worked in the history of its practice.

false
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Name one

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Name one

Suffragettes
The LGBT Movement
Montgomery Bus Boycott
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Suffragettes werent just peaceful, what country? They knew martial arts and werent afraid to show it sometimes.

LGBT? Sure we got marriage equality passed but its under constant threat, marriages still being ignored, folks still being fired, constant pushback trying to get the little we have accomplished nulled immediately. Id hardly call it successful yet and if you care at all youre still mocked relentlessly and those folks arent immediately shut down.

And that last one was under a larger header, ya know, the entire racial inequality movement which Malcom X was providing the heavy for while Martin Luther King Jr. was the peaceful face.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1182851865203105792

go fuck yourself Barr
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I mean, hes not wrong!

He just doesnt see the irony
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