Poll of the Day > Hospital still wants their $1,332 from me because I was feeling suicidal

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I told them once a while back weeks ago that I cant afford that. I cant make payments because right now im suffering from clinical depression and cant hold down a job to save my life. I dont know what else to tell them this morning when I get a chance. Ive got nothing... and this all happened because one of my doctors was so worried about me I ended up in the hospital twice in just under the span of two days. If only I didn't tell them my information... well fuck it.. I don't care anymore because I still cant afford it. I never asked to be put into the hospital. I never asked for an insane huge bill where they didn't even do jack shit for me either. All they did was take my blood sample, urine sample, EKG, etc...talked with a psych doctor for a little bit, then handed me a few papers about how to deal with suicidal thoughts and suggested an Intensive outpatient program which again, I already looked into weeks before and still cant afford, and so then I was on my way home. It just confuses my mind even more why I hate my life when im trying to just seek help.. :(

But anyways, yeah... sorry bit just needed to vent a bit for those that know me with how shitty my factory job was and well, it finally got to me after nearly three years of a mental breakdown by suicidal thoughts and panic attacks nearly every night made it an absolute nightmare to deal with when I had to work the next day. But thankfully, im about to go even into a longer term disability since things still arnt improving well. Depression is the worst fucking thing I ever had to go through and I swear to god I wouldn't even put this shit on my worst enemy... At least in still seeing my doctor three times a week though to make sure I dont do anything fucking stupid. Taking 225 of Vanefaxine and 2 MG of Lorazapam. It kinda helps but im just trying to enjoy whatever life I can I suppose in the meantime... : /

Tldr

But Christ it's dumb to charge people an butt load of money seeking help
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TaKun782 posted...

I never asked to be put into the hospital.

If they confined you against your will, they've got some nerve to stick with you the bill.

TaKun782 posted...

I never asked for an insane huge bill

Nobody asks for a huge bill

St_Kevin posted...

Tldr

But Christ it's dumb to charge people an butt load of money seeking help

Doesn't seem like he was seeking it, sounds like they thrust it upon him.
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I was in my docs office, she was worried about me. Did the whole call 911 thing with two cops so I didn't have a choice. I got released from the hospital at 3am in the morning. My doc found out about that, called me parents and said to them to take me back or they will call 911. And guess what? Nothing fucking changed at all...still didn't do shit and there is no way in fucking hell im paying for something when Im crying out for help :( Ive been suffering from depression for about 8 years of my life and this year has been full blown madness after all this shit that makes me really want to just end it all. No one really cares enough to help..

Stuff like this is why we need to do away with our absurd privatized healthcare system and get on board with what works for the rest of the world

Nobody should get stuck with a massive bill just for seeking medical help
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You shouldnt have to pay the bill. And I wouldnt. Especially with how they forced you to go. And called the cops on you to make you. Sounds more like they wanted you money rather than wanting to help you...
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LinkPizza posted...

You shouldnt have to pay the bill. And I wouldnt. Especially with how they forced you to go. And called the cops on you to make you. Sounds more like they wanted you money rather than wanting to help you...

What should I do though man? :( I cant hold a job right now to fucking save my life and thats the whole point that I fucking go to see my psychologist to. The other one though...fuck her for putting me through this fucking bullshit!!

Find a lawyer, there are free ones out there if you are in need. Have the lawyer do their mojo.
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hypnox posted...

Find a lawyer, there are free ones out there if you are in need. Have the lawyer do their mojo.

I don't know a thing about lawyers or what to do though... : / Im in Cleveland, Ohio and I wouldn't honestly know where to look into.

TaKun782 posted...

hypnox posted...

Find a lawyer, there are free ones out there if you are in need. Have the lawyer do their mojo.

I don't know a thing about lawyers or what to do though... : / Im in Cleveland, Ohio and I wouldn't honestly know where to look into.

I am sorry buddy, you are online right now, google it. Every state has different laws, so getting advice from one of us is stupid unless they also live in Cleveland. Look at churches and community centers, they often have listing for social services.
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Ahhh...never mind... im way to out of my mind and way too tired to do this shit now.. :(
Im just gonna call it a night since my meds are starting to kick in anyways and ill just tell the hospital off tomorrow once again I can't afford that shit. Thanks everyone for replying by the way. I do appreciate all the help and responses.

An at the hospital now.

Had to take my mom in for extreme pain from an inflamed pancreas.

Her bills 1000 dollars and I no she can't afford it, big bills suck man.
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just get on a payment plan and pay them like 10 bucks a month, they can't force you to pay for that
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RoboXgp89 posted...

just get on a payment plan and pay them like 10 bucks a month, they can't force you to pay for that

I'm poor with no income now. It's impossible. At least i have a doctor doing it out of good will so i don't end up fucking killing myself.

Stuff like this is why Im so afraid to go to the doctor- even for just a checkup. I have good insurance but I know that shit can still cost a lot of money with it.

I dont need anymore life-halting things, either.
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The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.


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Bugmeat posted...

The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.

Yep. Just make sure as soon as you can to get a phone or something thats easy to pay for and build your credit. I got mine up incredibly high with just a phone bill.
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Bugmeat posted...

The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.

So what should I do if I can't afford it?

We are paying on a medflight that we will probably be paying on forever. Something like $25 a month but it was worth it because it and the 2 months in the hospital saved my daughter's life.

If you are so depressed you are disabled and can't work there has got to be some other alternatives or programs for your disability.


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myghostisdead posted...

We are paying on a medflight that we will probably be paying on forever. Something like $25 a month but it was worth it because it and the 2 months in the hospital saved my daughter's life.

If you are so depressed you are disabled and can't work there has got to be some other alternatives or programs for your disability.

Like what? Please do tell..

God bless America

"I told them once a while back weeks ago that I can't afford that"

That's why I can't understand why we as citizens keep allowing these companies to nickel and dime us in addition to seriously overcharging us and we, as a nation keep voting in politicians who are in bed with the Corporations who are raking us all over the coals.
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BUMPED2002 posted...

"I told them once a while back weeks ago that I can't afford that"

That's why I can't understand why we as citizens keep allowing these companies to nickel and dime us in addition to seriously overcharging us and we, as a nation keep voting in politicians who are in bed with the Corporations who are raking us all over the coals. They could care less if you can't afford it because they'll keep harassing you and harassing you.

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SkynyrdRocker posted...

God bless America

For what cheating and overcharging people who can't afford these ridiculous medical costs. I doubt God would bless that.
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I have experience with this.

If you tell the wrong person that you're feeling suicidal you could be forcefully taken and charged thousands of dollars. Seems like the worst approach, it's a rephrasing of "protecting someone who is a danger to themselves", but if you don't want to be locked up in a ward you have to be careful who you tell.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

SkynyrdRocker posted...

God bless America

For what cheating and overcharging people who can't afford these ridiculous medical costs. I doubt God would bless that.

I think that was sarcasm... maybe...
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TaKun782 posted...

Bugmeat posted...

The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.

So what should I do if I can't afford it?

That's up to you. Ignore it and they'll eventually leave you alone. Ignore it for seven years and it totally goes away. You have the information. Now you have to decide how to handle it.


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LinkPizza posted...

I think that was sarcasm... maybe...

Obviously

Bugmeat posted...

TaKun782 posted...

Bugmeat posted...

The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.

So what should I do if I can't afford it?

That's up to you. Ignore it and they'll eventually leave you alone. Ignore it for seven years and it totally goes away. You have the information. Now you have to decide how to handle it.

Well either way I can't afford it so I'll just ignore it then... : / I swear... I would feel better off dead I guess then having to worry about this nonsense..

TaKun782 posted...

Bugmeat posted...

TaKun782 posted...

Bugmeat posted...

The hospital will eventually sell the debt to someone else and they'll sell it to another company who will sell it again. Each one hoping they can convince you to pay. You'll probably stop hearing about it in 4 years. But after 7 years it will be removed from you credit history.so long as you don't pay anything on it or even acknowledge the debt when they call you to collect. Making a single payment or acknowledging the debt to a creditor will reset the timer.

So what should I do if I can't afford it?

That's up to you. Ignore it and they'll eventually leave you alone. Ignore it for seven years and it totally goes away. You have the information. Now you have to decide how to handle it.

Well either way I can't afford it so I'll just ignore it then... : / I swear... I would feel better off dead I guess then having to worry about this nonsense..

Yeah. Ignoring it is probably best. Especially since you dont have the money. And in 7 years... its gone... I personally wouldnt pay for that. It almost sounds like robbery to me...
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TaKun782 posted...

At least in still seeing my doctor three times a week though to make sure I dont do anything fucking stupid.

It's good you're seeking help and I hope you have a good support network too. It's sad however it's costing you to do so with professionals. Mental health is no laughing matter. My brothers best mate killed himself a year ago and left behind his GF due to life and his own state of mind. He seemed a happy guy but I guess he never talked about his true feelings. It seems rough man.

Edit: As others have said ignore the bill. Your main focus is trying to get to a better place mentally. I'm a advocate for mindfulness myself and I certainly enjoy relaxing walks out in the peaks.
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wwinterj25 posted...

TaKun782 posted...

At least in still seeing my doctor three times a week though to make sure I dont do anything fucking stupid.

It's good you're seeking help and I hope you have a good support network too. It's sad however it's costing you to do so with professionals. Mental health is no laughing matter. My brothers best mate killed himself a year ago and left behind his GF due to life and his own state of mind. He seemed a happy guy but I guess he never talked about his true feelings. It seems rough man.

You have no idea what it's like man... I wouldn't wish this depression on my worst enemy. It's fucking awful.

It all really sucks and is a crappy situation, but if you have no income I'm sure the hospital has a financial aid department or whatever and if you fill out some paperwork you'll probably get the entire bill written off or at the very least reduced by a huge amount.

Both my wife and I make okay money but when we had a huge bill they still reduced it by 1,000's.
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TaKun782 posted...

You have no idea what it's like man...

Elaborate.
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I once told my psych that I was feeling suicidal.

He then began to charge me up front.
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wwinterj25 posted...

TaKun782 posted...

You have no idea what it's like man...

Elaborate.

Just got back from the doctor telling her about something I never once told a single soul in my entire life... and I guess now is the time to tell it here I suppose. Well, it pretty much all started when I was just 10 years old and I was sexually abused by my older brother once. Forced me to do oral on him... and god... I felt so numb when I was trying to explain this fucking shit to my doctor. But thankfully, she really does care about me. Even offered to do this for free if my insurance ever ran out, but anyways... I carried that secret ever since then. Throughout the years it wasn't helped that I was also bullied and harassed every single day of my life through 6th and 7th grade. Some older kid also tried to drown me once in a headlock. Older kids throwing my backpack into the garbage with shit all over it sometimes and I had to fish it out. This happened daily. They called me a (Obvious "F word" gay name I cant say due to TOS) and other common names. They fight me just because they didn't like me and I didn't do a single thing to anyone besides just being in my own world was all I wanted. I didn't even talk to anyone because I wasn't good with people.. I tried to tell someone about it, but he didn't give a shit. All I remember during that conversation was when he was playing around with his fucking pen... >_>

So I said fuck it... and finally got home schooled. BEST decision ever made by my parents cause they knew what was going on. I never been more happier in my life. Its true this has made me most isolated indeed.... but I feel more safe on the inside then out most of the time. I try to get out and do something like the movies and such, but I lived a much sheltered life style to where I cant stand being around a lot of people. And so...after 8 long years the crash finally happened to me... back in May of this year I felt this sudden urge getting closer that I wanted to kill myself because I couldn't take this shit anymore. I was having panic attacks every weekday before work. Racing thoughts of not just suicide, but imagine like an oncoming wave of countless thoughts from the past present and future all happening at the same time...its hard trying to turn that shit off man. Just trying and praying to just get at least maybe 2 hours of sleep at best. But that's not how it always worked out and one day I finally had enough... I got the short term disability leave.

And so here I am as of today. Still alive and maybe about 40 percent better. Am I doing at least a little better then I was when I was working my old job? Yeah, of course. I mean at least now I dont have to race against the clock every night to force myself to sleep just so that I can be able to function well at work. Thankfully that never got me fired and my boss knew there was something really serious going on health wise and he was a cool guy too. Anyways, as for now besides seeing my doc three times a week for one hour, taking vanefaxine for depression, and lorazapam for panic attacks which both help. Besides the fatigued sadly, eh... im doing ok though... at least I can say just say better then being dead anyhow. : /

The Top Crusader posted...

It all really sucks and is a crappy situation, but if you have no income I'm sure the hospital has a financial aid department or whatever and if you fill out some paperwork you'll probably get the entire bill written off or at the very least reduced by a huge amount.

Both my wife and I make okay money but when we had a huge bill they still reduced it by 1,000's.

Im trying to look into that too by the way. And I also set up a Gofundme page as well and I was surprised to see at least two people donated right out of the blue. Cant link it on here though for also obvious reasons.

I mean you'll be surprised just how much folk actually do have at least some idea of what you're going through. Depression can be a lonely place though so it's understandable you feel the way you do. Have you tried joining support groups and/or forums?
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Yellow posted...

I have experience with this.

If you tell the wrong person that you're feeling suicidal you could be forcefully taken and charged thousands of dollars. Seems like the worst approach, it's a rephrasing of "protecting someone who is a danger to themselves", but if you don't want to be locked up in a ward you have to be careful who you tell.

This too. You have to tell someone you know has your best interests in mind. Someone who isnt afraid to bend the stupid aspects of the mandated reporter laws.
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jramirez23 posted...

Yellow posted...

I have experience with this.

If you tell the wrong person that you're feeling suicidal you could be forcefully taken and charged thousands of dollars. Seems like the worst approach, it's a rephrasing of "protecting someone who is a danger to themselves", but if you don't want to be locked up in a ward you have to be careful who you tell.

This too. You have to tell someone you know has your best interests in mind. Someone who isnt afraid to bend the stupid aspects of the mandated reporter laws.

Then who actually is the "right person" to tell? Since apparently I cant trust no one it seems for what good that did me... : /

Sorry to hear about that. All what they are doing just doesn't make sense. You are upset and suicidal because things are unreasonably expensive and you can't even the basic necessities. Now they are just doing things to further hurt you when they are supposed to be helping you. I don't think all those lab tests were necessary. You refused them, too. It's not fair for them to charge you for things you refused, especially when they didn't seem necessary. It sounds like they just want to kill people.
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fishy071 posted...

Sorry to hear about that. All what they are doing just doesn't make sense. You are upset and suicidal because things are unreasonably expensive and you can't even the basic necessities. Now they are just doing things to further hurt you when they are supposed to be helping you. I don't think all those lab tests were necessary. You refused them, too. It's not fair for them to charge you for things you refused, especially when they didn't seem necessary. It sounds like they just want to kill people.

Thats not the worst part of it man. Here is the worst right here... I was staying at Ahuja hospital here in Cleveland. Second time I went in, they forgot about me for 5 fucking hours. Was told the information slept through the cracks. Bullshit... and then when they finally got around to bringing in the fucking electronic pad gizmo with the skype thing on it waiting for the psych doc to call and ask me the same fucking questions with a very heavy thick accent so I couldn't understand what most of what he was trying to say, but one in particular still haunts me to this very day. Hes asks me, "What can we do for you"? And im like.... what in the god damn actual fuck? What can they do for me...? Well, they can fuck off with this bill they gave me for one and Id be so much better as thats a start towards not feeling depressed.

wwinterj25 posted...

Have you tried joining support groups and/or forums?

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wwinterj25 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

Have you tried joining support groups and/or forums?

Im not sure where to even look into

I ask because in general GameFAQs doesn't like suicide chat. Plus support networks can help. Try googling for depression/suicide help forums and support groups in your area.
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Thanks for the heads up man. Ill try to do this sort of thing in person somewhere I guess.