Board 8 > Yu Yu Hakusho Mafia Topic 4: Mafuuken!!!

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DrPez
08/15/19 2:27:13 AM
#1:


9 Alive:
1. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)
2. Corrik (Corrik7)
3. FD (Forceful_Dragon)
4. HB (Hbthebattle)
5. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie)
6. Lea (Leanansidhe)
7. Lopen (Lopen)
8. MZero (MZero11)
9. SBell (Obellisk) / Firebolt (fire_bolt)

Deadlist:
LD1: Ulti - Yusuke Urameshi, TOWN Tracker
KN1: Han - Jorge the Ogre, TOWN Vanilla
LD2: Sultan - Shinobu Sensui, Untargetable Serial Killer
KN2: Red - Asato Kido, TOWN Shadow Psychic (roleblocker)
LD3: Chris - Ruka, MAFIA Roleblocker
KN3: Brohan - Botan, TOWN Watcher
LD4: Ben - Toya, TOWN Vanilla
KN4: Gravy - Shishiwakamaru, TOWN Vanilla

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DrPez
08/15/19 2:43:51 AM
#2:


DrPez posted...
Official Votals as of post 428

(2) Corrik: IGCD, Lopen
(1) Lopen: Corrik, (Lea)
(1) FD: (Corrik), MZero, (Lea)
(1) Lea: HB
(1) Scare: (Lea), Lea

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MZero11
08/15/19 5:58:47 AM
#3:


What FD did was hardly a breadcrumb at all >_>
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:01:32 AM
#4:


Also I'm gonna need stats to prove it's "usually town"
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:03:49 AM
#5:


Looking for FD's fiest post I found this

Lopen posted...
Ulti is a deer in the headlights

Deer are scum. Even Ulti will vouch for that much


Lopen claimed scum...!
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Corrik7
08/15/19 6:21:05 AM
#6:


MZero11 posted...
Also I'm gonna need stats to prove it's "usually town"

It's like 99.9% town. It means that someone committed to a flavor early in the game before knowing what they were gonna claim usually. I mean it's not entirely past FD personally to breadcrumb as scum, but... Like I said, it is hella likelier to be town.
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:25:47 AM
#7:


How is he committed to it? No one was going to notice that tiny "breadcrumb". He easily could have claimed anything else and no one was going to be like "WAIT why did you use announce in your first post?!"
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:28:59 AM
#8:


Look at SBell's day 1. THAT is breadcrumbing and unlikely to be fake. FD's breadcrumb is barely anything
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Corrik7
08/15/19 6:39:53 AM
#9:


MZero11 posted...
Look at SBell's day 1. THAT is breadcrumbing and unlikely to be fake. FD's breadcrumb is barely anything

Paste his posts in question.
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:51:37 AM
#10:


Corrik7 posted...
MZero11 posted...
Look at SBell's day 1. THAT is breadcrumbing and unlikely to be fake. FD's breadcrumb is barely anything

Paste his posts in question.


SBell's or FD's? Cause for SBell it's... basically all of his posts
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MZero11
08/15/19 6:54:49 AM
#11:


Here's a few just from the first two pages of the game

Obellisk posted...
And there you have it folks, Ulti taking the first blows. Who knows if Ulti will be able to stand this barrage of votes. It's sure going to be a great day one.


Obellisk posted...
Corrik7 posted...
I see Mzero and Obellisk coolly deflect from that who stands before us now.

Dost thou sprout melancholy for our merry lot that cheer but for justice brought?


On the one hand, I want to be part of a group and feel accepted.

On the other hand, I don't like voting because I'm told to.

I think I'll just hang here on the side lines and commentate on his demise.


Obellisk posted...
What's this? Corrik has turned his attention to SBell! Things could be getting tense here.

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MZero11
08/15/19 7:02:25 AM
#12:


Hell, all of those posts were before FD checked in, so it's possible he saw it and Juri was on his safelist, and knowing the flavor he decided to drop a few breadcrumbs for a future claim, but not enough that he would be expected to claim it.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 7:27:28 AM
#13:


FD is who I meant. Not Sbell. You said FD barely even breadcrumbed.
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MZero11
08/15/19 7:39:22 AM
#14:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I hinted at this in my first post of day 1 by using the word "announce". Its why i trusted sbell even before sultan claimed an extra scan. Not that you would know, fire, but sbell spent much of day 1 doing what seemed like sports announcing of the events that were happening. That's because he (you) are clearly the other referee/announce of the tournament, Koto.


So here's the one where he used "announce"

Forceful_Dragon posted...
For some reason I thought the day started at 6PM PST, not EST. Shrug.

In any case not too much much seems to be happening so I'm going to play beatsaber for a bit and catch up when I was originally planning to be around.

Also I would love to lynch Ulti, but I feel as though I must announce that it is for purely personal reasons. I really don't like him.


and here's the one about SBell (he posted this in the last topic)

Forceful_Dragon posted...
I am very flavor knowledgeable, yes. But my first post was just a quickie because I didn't realize there start time of the day was in EST. And so at that point I hadn't read any of SBells posts. Certainly not enough time to figure him out and figure out something that matches.

But it's why in my first post of day 2 when I summed up day 1 I say this:

Sbell does not run errands after all. There's something in the tone to his second post makes me trust him more, but it's hard to say what it is. I think he reminds me of myself in a way.


.

And SBell's 2nd post:

And there you have it folks, Ulti taking the first blows. Who knows if Ulti will be able to stand this barrage of votes. It's sure going to be a great day one.

So, I skipped my errands and traffic was light.

Chris, you said 11 others. But 12 /5 is like 41%. I haven't done the hosting in a long time but isn't that off?


And I figure since apparently today is mass claim day I might as well claim fire's flavor too

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Corrik7
08/15/19 7:45:32 AM
#15:


"Sbell does not run errands after all. There's something in the tone to his second post makes me trust him more, but it's hard to say what it is. I think he reminds me of myself in a way."

Still strikes me as solid. I mean, FD could have faked this... But... It's definitely a credible breadcrumb to me.

Hmmmm.

FD, when you asked Chris what flavor Ben had to be you went silent? Why?
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Corrik7
08/15/19 8:20:01 AM
#16:


Mzero why did I think u were town again yesterday?
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Corrik7
08/15/19 8:26:42 AM
#17:


I like Lopen as town after re-reading a little despite his push on me. Oh well. But, I can't for the life of me remember why I thought Mzero was town based on my re-read.
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MZero11
08/15/19 8:30:24 AM
#18:


Because I am. But Ben flipping town has you doubting everything you knew to be true. Don't let Ben's death haunt you forever!
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MZero11
08/15/19 8:31:46 AM
#19:


Corrik7 posted...
Still strikes me as solid. I mean, FD could have faked this... But... It's definitely a credible breadcrumb to me.


It's a zero risk play. If he claims Juri he can use it, if he claims anything else, he doesn't mention it and literally no one notices

imo a credible breadcrumb has to be more noticeable than that (like SBell's was)
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Corrik7
08/15/19 8:44:02 AM
#20:


MZero11 posted...
Because I am. But Ben flipping town has you doubting everything you knew to be true. Don't let Ben's death haunt you forever!

But, why did I specifically have you so high as town. Had to of been a reason. I couldn't have just said that because you were on the same page as me. Hell, you didn't even wanna Lynch Chris at like any point.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 8:49:02 AM
#21:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Lopen posted...
On a similar thread, Hb had a stupid defense of Ben as town yesterday and has been fairly idle. I think Corrik is the better lynch today, but Hb getting a look would be nice too.

I'm glad you're finally coming around.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 8:49:40 AM
#22:


I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.
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MZero11
08/15/19 8:58:44 AM
#23:


Corrik7 posted...
MZero11 posted...
Because I am. But Ben flipping town has you doubting everything you knew to be true. Don't let Ben's death haunt you forever!

But, why did I specifically have you so high as town. Had to of been a reason. I couldn't have just said that because you were on the same page as me. Hell, you didn't even wanna Lynch Chris at like any point.


Corrik7 posted...
DrPez posted...
Official Votals as of post 220

(6) Sultan: (Chris), SBell, (Ben), Gravy, Chris, Corrik, HB, Lea
(3) Chris: Red, (Lea), (Corrik), MZero, Sultan, (Lopen)
(2) Scare: (Lopen), Ben, Lopen, (Lea)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik), (Chris)
(0) Lea: (Gravy)
(0) FD: (MZero)

@ me with any errors

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EDITED


Okay I just want to point out this Lynch does have info now that Chris flipped scum.

Chris was at "-2" to the erroneous 7 to Lynch with Red, Lea, Mzero, Sultan, and Lopen on him.

Red is town. Sultan Indy. But, the fact is that this Lynch sprung up and there is very little chance scum would have been on this. Lea has the worst unvote tho. However, I feel almost confident saying EVERY LAST PERSON HERE is not scum.

As of right now that is my thinking.

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Corrik7
08/15/19 9:11:58 AM
#24:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 9:12:47 AM
#25:


MZero11 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
MZero11 posted...
Because I am. But Ben flipping town has you doubting everything you knew to be true. Don't let Ben's death haunt you forever!

But, why did I specifically have you so high as town. Had to of been a reason. I couldn't have just said that because you were on the same page as me. Hell, you didn't even wanna Lynch Chris at like any point.


Corrik7 posted...
DrPez posted...
Official Votals as of post 220

(6) Sultan: (Chris), SBell, (Ben), Gravy, Chris, Corrik, HB, Lea
(3) Chris: Red, (Lea), (Corrik), MZero, Sultan, (Lopen)
(2) Scare: (Lopen), Ben, Lopen, (Lea)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik), (Chris)
(0) Lea: (Gravy)
(0) FD: (MZero)

@ me with any errors

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Okay I just want to point out this Lynch does have info now that Chris flipped scum.

Chris was at "-2" to the erroneous 7 to Lynch with Red, Lea, Mzero, Sultan, and Lopen on him.

Red is town. Sultan Indy. But, the fact is that this Lynch sprung up and there is very little chance scum would have been on this. Lea has the worst unvote tho. However, I feel almost confident saying EVERY LAST PERSON HERE is not scum.

As of right now that is my thinking.

Hmmm. Okay. Now why did you vote Chris that day but not the following day
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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 9:23:46 AM
#26:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 9:25:36 AM
#27:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.

You haven't mentioned anyone else at all besides me and HB.
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fire_bolt
08/15/19 9:46:29 AM
#28:


Corrik7 posted...
Unfortunately, Fire_bolt having broken logic that town can't have a full time BP means he is likely the last protection role.

Which sucks.


Nah, I'm just plain ol' vanilla. That said, explain to me how an SK wins with a full time BP Town in the game? An SK has no way to kill that role since he can never control the lynch. Games I've played with an SK and a scum BP usually have the condition that if final 2 comes down to SK and scum BP the SK wins. I guess it could be similar for SK/town BP? Just seems extremely poorly balanced
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Corrik7
08/15/19 9:58:43 AM
#29:


fire_bolt posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Unfortunately, Fire_bolt having broken logic that town can't have a full time BP means he is likely the last protection role.

Which sucks.


Nah, I'm just plain ol' vanilla. That said, explain to me how an SK wins with a full time BP Town in the game? An SK has no way to kill that role since he can never control the lynch. Games I've played with an SK and a scum BP usually have the condition that if final 2 comes down to SK and scum BP the SK wins. I guess it could be similar for SK/town BP? Just seems extremely poorly balanced

SK wins if there are 2 left in the game. There can't be two town roles that are unkillable for obvious reasons.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 10:13:20 AM
#30:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.

You haven't mentioned anyone else at all besides me and HB.

That's completely untrue.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 10:15:22 AM
#31:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.

You haven't mentioned anyone else at all besides me and HB.

That's completely untrue.

Then you will be kind enough to show me where you made cases for people being town and showed a POE for who could be scum left, yes? Surely you don't think just 2 people are scum.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 10:27:18 AM
#32:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.

You haven't mentioned anyone else at all besides me and HB.

That's completely untrue.

Then you will be kind enough to show me where you made cases for people being town and showed a POE for who could be scum left, yes? Surely you don't think just 2 people are scum.

Of the players left alive I have expressed suspicion of you, Lopen, Lea and HB. I don't town hunt. So by process of elimination it should be pretty easy to deduce that I assume everyone else is town.
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Lopen
08/15/19 10:31:05 AM
#33:


Hbthebattle posted...

Has anyone been fucking listening to what I've been saying

Remember Sultan mentioning he got a scan on Sbell, and then his flip showed he had no scan powers. Remember how Gravy accidentally posted after the STOP, which was said in topic one to award scum (and presumably SK) with a scan? Gravy and Bolt are town by this logic.


So I find this reaction really interesting the more I think about it

I looked back and only found Hb mention this once and unless I missed something no one even mentioned it again. With a grand total of one post on the subject, it's a bit overblown

When you consider the kill last night, is it possible that Hb was debating this with the scumboard and it touched a nerve with him because of that?

He was very quick to deny that my list of reads had anything to do with the scum night kill as well. This could be another one of Hb's "caught for the wrong reasons" moments!

Corrik is the right lynch today but tomorrow Hb should be really looked at.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/15/19 10:33:05 AM
#34:


Lopen posted...
Hbthebattle posted...

Has anyone been fucking listening to what I've been saying

Remember Sultan mentioning he got a scan on Sbell, and then his flip showed he had no scan powers. Remember how Gravy accidentally posted after the STOP, which was said in topic one to award scum (and presumably SK) with a scan? Gravy and Bolt are town by this logic.


So I find this reaction really interesting the more I think about it

I looked back and only found Hb mention this once and unless I missed something no one even mentioned it again. With a grand total of one post on the subject, it's a bit overblown

When you consider the kill last night, is it possible that Hb was debating this with the scumboard and it touched a nerve with him because of that?

He was very quick to deny that my list of reads had anything to do with the scum night kill as well. This could be another one of Hb's "caught for the wrong reasons" moments!

Corrik is the right lynch today but tomorrow Hb should be really looked at.

@Corrik7is Lopen tunneling now too?
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:18:21 AM
#36:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Lopen posted...
Hbthebattle posted...

Has anyone been fucking listening to what I've been saying

Remember Sultan mentioning he got a scan on Sbell, and then his flip showed he had no scan powers. Remember how Gravy accidentally posted after the STOP, which was said in topic one to award scum (and presumably SK) with a scan? Gravy and Bolt are town by this logic.


So I find this reaction really interesting the more I think about it

I looked back and only found Hb mention this once and unless I missed something no one even mentioned it again. With a grand total of one post on the subject, it's a bit overblown

When you consider the kill last night, is it possible that Hb was debating this with the scumboard and it touched a nerve with him because of that?

He was very quick to deny that my list of reads had anything to do with the scum night kill as well. This could be another one of Hb's "caught for the wrong reasons" moments!

Corrik is the right lynch today but tomorrow Hb should be really looked at.

@Corrik7is Lopen tunneling now too?

He has CorrikFear and an overweighted sense of self-importance.

You should be questioning why he was so for scare and Lea yesterday, and he has flipped from them today though.

He literally thinks he is only alive because his reads were wrong. Which is laughable. If Lopen is town, he is at conspiracy theory levels.

If he is scum, he is being opportunistic.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:19:13 AM
#37:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'd also like to add that HB's reaction to Lea coming clean was complete bullshit too.

You aren't trying to figure out the game. Ur just tunneled.

Not at all.

You haven't mentioned anyone else at all besides me and HB.

That's completely untrue.

Then you will be kind enough to show me where you made cases for people being town and showed a POE for who could be scum left, yes? Surely you don't think just 2 people are scum.

Of the players left alive I have expressed suspicion of you, Lopen, Lea and HB. I don't town hunt. So by process of elimination it should be pretty easy to deduce that I assume everyone else is town.

You don't look for things that make people town? Oh boy. No comment.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:21:05 AM
#38:


So, anyways, there needs to be a mass claim. We still need lopen, Mzero, and igcds? Claim I believe.
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Lopen
08/15/19 11:27:09 AM
#39:


Corrik7 posted...
If he is scum, he is being opportunistic.


I don't think opportunistic means what you think it does. To call you or Hb "opportunistic" lynches when I'm trying to build the cases from scratch is a gross misuse of the word.

And it's less an inflated sense of self-importance and more wondering why gravy, who makes half of his posts from the crapper about being on the crapper, of all players, was killed. Do I think I'm more important than literal shit posting if my reads are correct? Absolutely. That's not being inflated that's just being realistic.
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Lopen
08/15/19 11:30:19 AM
#41:


Mzero, IGCD, join me and lynch this man who demands your role. Say we will not give it to you.

Oh wait IGCD is already on him.

Listen guys we need to put Corrik closer to being lynched for data purposes. I mean also because he's scum but how he reacts to pressure he can't brush off as paranoid ramblings will really expose him. Trust. This man will crack like an egg.
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Lopen
08/15/19 11:32:56 AM
#43:


Got em.
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Lopen
08/15/19 11:33:46 AM
#44:


You're at -2, Corrik. And in this game, that means you could be lynched in 4 minutes

Time to stop this show of false bravado regarding a mass claim, as if anyone is listening to you

Tell us how you really feel
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:36:28 AM
#45:


Lopen posted...
You're at -2, Corrik. And in this game, that means you could be lynched in 4 minutes

Time to stop this show of false bravado regarding a mass claim, as if anyone is listening to you

Tell us how you really feel

I feel the game should mass claim cuz there is a hole in setup meta. Not to mention setup meta supports me as town. And this game is possibly at Mylo.

If someone wants to Lynch me today, they need to do better if town. Would take a real lack of analyzing the game to add up myself as scum.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:37:33 AM
#46:


Like, the fact that people seem to be contemplating that Town Roleblocker is the only protection in a game with a SK is amusing to me. Figuring it is half of a protection. Lol.
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Corrik7
08/15/19 11:39:53 AM
#48:


Leanansidhe posted...
So you want a town doctor to claim so you're less likely to get lynched?


There is 100% no doctor in this game. And a doctor would just claim vanilla anyways even though there is not one.
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Lopen
08/15/19 11:39:59 AM
#49:


Corrik, if you're town, you do better

Analyze your own play. What parts of it could come off as scummy and what parts come off as towny.

What I have seen as lacking in your play this game is a real concentrated digging on someone, which is something I felt you did your recent town games. You're sorta just shotgunning opinions on everything, molding your opinions to that of the lynch of least resistance.

So I'm giving you an opportunity to dig deep, on the easiest target. Yes... your very soul...
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