Board 8 > Zelda plays Danganronpa for the first time (spoilers)

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Sakura was killed by the only person who could kill Sakura.

Cause let's be real, Genocide Jill is the only person who survives combat with her for five seconds.
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There's only one student who survives five seconds with Sakura, and it's not Jill.

See: the novel in DR2
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I must have been the one person who immediately called 1-4 as soon as it happened. There clearly wasn't a way out of the locked room, and an honor suicide just made too much sense.
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There is never a way out of the locked room, until the detective figures it out.

I knew what it was as soon as Kyoko was like "there are only so many ways a locked room murder can happen" and then didn't list suicide as one of them.

As an Umineko player, I thought it was way too obvious >_>

Still a good case though.

And tbf I figured out all of the cases in DR1 beforehand (except the entire extent of case 2 because its kind of impossible to do since who the heck would ever guess Byakuya messed with it for fun), it's not a very hard mystery game imo.

Luckily DR2 and V3 are much better about that.

Yeah it's either this or 1-2 for the best case so far, because 1-2 throws such a nasty curveball with the whole Byakuta/GJ thing. I think I maybe prefer 1-2, tbh.

But 1-4 was a fast paced case that somehow connected the entire living cast in one big puzzle, so it's cool.

Read through the whole topic. Love reading playthroughs for games like Danganronpa and Ace Attorney.

Also, 1 > 2 > 3 > UDG

But I enjoyed all of them. Even UDG, although its certainly the worst of them.
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The game is now spoiling the heck out of the plot. In 3 days, one of those masked goons is going to fall dead. Interesting.

Byakuya told Toko not to open her mouth without his permission. I gotta say, those two are almost cute together. Almost.

Byakuya vows never to small talk again. Haha. Fat chance.

5th floor! Seems like it's the last one of the school, too.

Monokuma is letting us know the exact time the sprinklers activate. Not because of a future murder or anything, of course.

"It's a chicken. It doesn't have a second form, right?". I'd expect anything, Makoto.

A room filled with blood and corpse lines. And Monokuma says he's got nothing to do with it. I guess that was The Tragedy?

I was expecting a Bio Lab after the Phys and Chem ones, but not expecting it to be locked. Huh.

Kyoko doesn't remember who she is. I'm guessing her own memory erasure went wrong, or they erased extra info from her on purpose.

Sakura opened the headmaster's room before dieing. Atta girl.

Kyoko: "Only open this if I die". NOOOOOOOO. Don't do that Kyoko, that's a S-class death flag. Danmit.

So the bath has no cameras because of the fog. I was wondering about that. Well if I were the mastermind, I'd just seal the whole damn thing and avoid any risks. Unless they have some kind of rule where they have to make a perfect copy of what the school used to be. But that didn't stop them from shutting down the biolab, did it?

Monokuma is mad Makoto is asking him about keys and not about bear sex. If I wear Makoto I'd just ask about bear sex. Let's humor the guy. Distract him.

I'd totally buy Sakura's Revenge. Someone make a Kickstarter.

Kyoko's plan went so well that not even Monokuma knows where she is now. Cool.

I think Kyoko is likely to die at some point, but I wish it's not in this chapter. She's such a great character.

But the plot seems to be having an oversaturation of Kyoko lately so it's very likely something will happen to her. Hope it's just kidnapping or something.

Free time. Let's talk to Toko. I tried to give her a whip but she didn't dig it. I give up.

Byakuya next. He likes my tea. Then he starts asking me what it feels like to be loser, and I tell him he is spoiled. He doesn't take it lightly, apparently he is very proud of the things he had to do in his life. Interesting.

Makoto dreams of himself saying his goal is to stay there, not leave. This matches with the thing Kyoko said about the school not being that bad.

I guess the school is some beacon of hope in the middle of a dystopia and they should preserve it? But the Mastermind is trying to destroy it. This feels like that manga Ultimo, where good and evil robots battle to prove whether good or evil is the strongest.

Suddenly, a masked dude with a knife. Then Kyoko. This is random.

Holy shit they broke a Monokuma. Aw yeah fight the powah!

They found him not moving. My guess is that Kyoko has been sabotaging things at night.

Time to storm the heamaster's room. But it's still chapter 5 out of 7, so this is totally going to backfire.

Yes, send Toko alone to get a pickaxe. She's not coming back is she.

Oh she's back. As GJ and with no piackaxe. But most importantly, someone died. Probably that goon from the spoiler, but I hope it's not Kyoko wearing that mask.

We try to check it and it blows up. Still no identity. This game turned into a thriller fast. At least there was no body announcement, I was expecting Monokuma to trial us for killing the thing. Or maybe he will once the Monokumas start working again.

Into the data center. This really feels like the endgame. Byakuya wants to learn everything before leaving the school. He is right, for all we know it's nuclear winter out there.

There is a Monokuma Door and it's locked. Because it's too soon to enter the Final Boss room, I guess.

Monokuma is back! And the game is being broadcast to the world. We Hunger Games now.

Yep. We are being trialed. Without even being sure if it's really Kyoko. Makes me think it's not, or this death would be too anti-climatic.

Also I dig the new song, with the guitar solo. Though the old one was pretty good though. This game has a great soundtrack. The investigation songs and the one that plays in the end of trial comic book are my favorite ones.

Red and white fingernails. Matches Junko's style, iirc. Hey, Junko. Dead again? This is where the part about knowing Junko is the final villain interferes, except I don't know the details so I have no idea how she can die twice before even appearing as final villain.

Hiro has the best dubbed lines. "Conspiracy!". "The end is nigh!" It doesn't make sense but it's funny.

Makoto thinks he may have done it. Yay, we are the main suspect again! At least the game overs will go back to make sense.

The bomb that blew the corpse is apparently the one that was in Monokuma this morning. Ha! How is that for an alibi, jerkasses?

Some info on Mukuro. She's a super soldier and a mercenary. Or was. Not sure.

Monokuma gives away it's not Kyoko, because Kyoko is supposed to have a hand full of scars.

Byakuya is almost as good a detective as Kyoko, except he's an asshole so it's hard to appreciate him.

Kyoko lives! And she was in the 2nd floor of the living area. Mysteries upon mysteries.

You know, last time I was in this elevator, I imagined it going down with even fewer people next time. I never thought it would have the same number of people in the next one.

Why is the courtroom so pink? Anyway, trial next.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Also I dig the new song, with the guitar solo. Though the old one was pretty good though. This game has a great soundtrack. The investigation songs and the one that plays in the end of trial comic book are my favorite ones.

Those are some of my favorites as well. Overall, Id say these are my three favorite songs from DR1:

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Also Toko apparently has the kind of durability you only get by being cartoon comic relief
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She and Hiro. Two characters with no depth who stay alive because they are funny.

"Funny" is debatable with those two.
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What's the debate? They're not funny...

Toko is redeemed by Genocide Jill.

Hiro is just awful.
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I guess they tried to make him funny, that's the point.

But yeah he lands the jokes maybe 10% of the time.

I plan on ranking all characters after this game ends. And spoiler: I'm going to rank Toko and GJ separately. Because GJ deserves better than being dragged down by Toko.

Aoi & Sakura were probably the only two characters I cared about in the first game lol

Are we actually having a debate on whether Kyoko is a ghost or not? Are we really doing that? Seriously, game?

(Then again if this was AA it would be a reasonable and opportune debate to have)

Toko shows she knows about literature. After 5 chapters I'd kind of forgotten this was an attribute of her character, with the whole focus on being a masochist and a bitch. Even Hiro lampshades that.

Monokuma wants us to stop talking about plot and go back to the trial. But I wanna talk about plot, danmit!

Monokuma says the killer is "part of the student body", but not that he's one of the 6 in the room. Interesting.

A) Suicide, or accident. It's possible but after Sakura's thing it's kind of boring.

B) One of the peeps from the previous 4 cases did it, and the body was only found now. I think the blood was fresh, though? But it has old wounds.

C) It's really one of the 6, and we have a tricky situation. Kyoko is probably out because she's a protagonist, and the rest have alibis. So we need to break those alibis somehow. If we do, occam's razor says it's Toko because she found the body, but it might not be that simple. Byakuya seems to be out because he was really investigating it this time, but I wouldn't put it past Byakuya. The other 2 are stupid, but again, everything is possible.

B is my favorite theory.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Are we actually having a debate on whether Kyoko is a ghost or not? Are we really doing that?

Dark Young Link posted...

Hiro is just awful.

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Yeah, I said back when I played DR1 that Hiro feels like a Scooby Doo character or something. Hes literally a waste of fictional life

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Are we actually having a debate on whether Kyoko is a ghost or not? Are we really doing that? Seriously, game?

Best Debate in DR1 by a mile.

Dark Young Link posted...

Hiro is just awful.

While true, this is his one shining moment. dont take it away from him
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

I guess they tried to make him funny, that's the point.

But yeah he lands the jokes maybe 10% of the time.

I'd say it's more like 30% of the time.

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Fun fact: Hiro died in the first case in the demo for DR1 due to them not wanting to spoil the victim being Sayaka.

Also I like Toko personally. Genocide Jill is definitely much better though, yeah.

Yay let's discuss evidence while Toko orgasms about the idea of wet bodies. Awesome (not).

Kyoko Kirigiri just smashed my alibi. If this wasn't a game I think I'd piss my pants. It's like being called a murderer by Hercule Poirot.

Justice for the chickens! Also lol at Hina wanting to eat them. A swimmer needs her protein, I guess.

I was wondering why the game let me walk to the gym after Hina called me, instead of teleporting me there with her. Turns out it was to blame me for the murder. Sneaky developers.

I gotta say, this feels like the most well executed murder so far, with the whole cover up and bomb things. Starting to feel like a Byakuya job.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Yay let's discuss evidence while Toko orgasms about the idea of wet bodies.

This is exactly why I like Toko!

You have a strange taste.

Aoi: "I might be dumb, but even I'm not dumb enough to believe that". And that illustrates exactly why Aoi is a good character while Hiro isn't.

Kyoko looks extremely chill whenever she is accused. Hard to say if she's even nervous.

"Go ahead Makoto, surely you know what is the murder weapon". Eh, not sure. I'm not seeing any "udon" option in the evidence section.

Please continue talking about literature, Toko. You might become an actual character by Chapter 7, if you're still alive then.

Kyoko is cornered. So she's about to drop a megaton bombshell. Wait for it...

Boom. She couldn't have possibly put the key there because Byakuya had it. I almost want to call him as the murderer, but that sounds like the dumbest mistake ever for him to make, so I won't.

So it was all a set up, probably for Monokuma to learn what Kyoko was doing. This 4D chess is too much for me, lol.

NOOOOOOOOOO Kyoko. And what a sad death scene. Did Monokuma just break his own rules, though?

Future ending, babies ever after. Toko is dead (wonder how she died if there were no more murders, suicide?), and Hina married everyone.

Yeah right. What's the twist?

Ha! It was all just imagination. And Makoto decides to believe in the Power of Friendship. Kyoko lives! Fuck yeah!

Time's up again. The game gives me ranks and coins so I think it's for real this time. What now, Monokuma?

Makoto to be executed. Is this more imagination?

YOU HAVE BEEN H4X0RS. Chihiro ex Machina to the rescue.

This feels like that part in Portal when you escape through the wall and now you are the one chasing the big bad. Nice.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

You have a strange taste.

People often tell me this

I think those people just don't have enough taste myself! Not even bad. Just *enough*.

Kyoko jumps down to help me. Kyoko + Makoto undercover mission. This game is really a thriller now.

So the Mastermind cheated, which means they are cornered, which means the game is nearly over. Starting to feel like we won't have to wipe out the entire cast like I was expecting. Maybe a couple more deaths, but maybe some will survive.

Case 5 is over.

Weird case. It was all a phony case so it didn't have a satisfying end. But the whole plot is getting pretty good, so I've been marathoning it all day. I think I'm about to finish this game fast, because I want to know what happens now.

I may or may not have seen a pic of Toko when I searched for the name of one of the games (the one with girls) to see what it was about and saw her picture. So I know she survives, unless that game is not canon. Sorry, but it's hard when you can't even look up what games there are in the series without getting spoilers.

Didn't we tell you not to Google?!
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Oh, and for the record, the reason Toko dies in the bad ending is, and I quote, "She just exploded somehow"
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swirIdude posted...

Didn't we tell you not to Google?!

Yes, but normally it's easier to avoid spoilers than that. It's a game, I should be able to see its name and description without being spoiled right out of the window.

At this rate I might get spoiled for going to the steam shop to buy things.

Danganronpa is notoriously easy to get spoiled on. If you already have 2 and 3 and plan on playing them, seriously don't touch any Danganronpa media beyond what we show you.
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I mean one of you guys essentially spoiled V3-1 for me, so even here hasn't been completely safe.

(Don't think it was a playthrough topic at least.)
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Eh tbh nobody should expect to completely avoid spoilers years after something is released. It's common sense.

I know jack shit about 2 and 3 though (except 2 starts in an island but that's the premise), so it should be easier to avoid spoilers.

I do know Makoto is the protagonist of the anime but hey he's the MC so the fact he's alive is not shocking.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Kyoko Kirigiri just smashed my alibi. If this wasn't a game I think I'd piss my pants. It's like being called a murderer by Hercule Poirot.

lol, yeah. That was definitely a moment.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Future ending, babies ever after. Toko is dead (wonder how she died if there were no more murders, suicide?), and Hina married everyone.

I thought this ending was pretty hilarious, how apparently the 4 of them continued to live happily every after within the school. Byakuya, in particular, looks so...settled in that picture. I guess his kid was at least 6 or 7 in that pic, though. And Aoi with the reverse harem is interesting, to say the least. (I guess Byakuya's kid could be Toko's.)
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

I may or may not have seen a pic of Toko when I searched for the name of one of the games (the one with girls) to see what it was about and saw her picture. So I know she survives, unless that game is not canon. Sorry, but it's hard when you can't even look up what games there are in the series without getting spoilers.

Do you have any questions about Ultra Despair Girls that we can answer, or did you find most of the info you wanted? Ultimately, the game takes place between DR1 & DR2 chronologically, but if you do play it, you should play it after you beat DR2.

Also, its completely different from the rest of the series. Somewhat of a spinoff, but its definitely canon. The 3 main games are the whodunnit games, whereas UDG is an action adventure. I think Im in the minority when I say I enjoyed it...
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We back at the school. I was expecting more exploration of hidden areas, but I guess this game won't break format so soon.

Kyoko manages to talk Monokuma into submission. So redoing the last trial is now pawsible.

The Mastermind is trying to prove a point. That Despair is stronger than Hope. So they set up this survival game to make the students kill each other, in what is probably an already planned structure to keep the students forever in order to protect Hope. They prove Hope can't last long, so for us to win, we need to prove it can.

The whole school is unlocked. The Mastermind is really going All In.

Headmaster Room. Kyoko has been here before, so it's obviously not the most interesting room. But there's some juicy new info on Mukuro.

Monokuma Door. And it's the room that controls Monokuma. I have to wonder, did the monitor and Monokuma rooms really have to be separate ones? Feels contrived.

Aoi left because she wanted to be useful, and now she's hiding behind Makoto while he does all the work. lol Aoi.

Biolab. There are 9 slots with dead bodies in it. But there are 10 dead students, right?

2nd floor of the living area. Looks like a war happened here. Most rooms are useless though, I guess it's just to show what happened before.

Father used his daughter's name as password, so he loved her after all! Classic.

His bones are in a box, though. Beside a picture of Kyoko. Poor girl can't even get closure.

Locker room. Some hints that this was a normal school before Monokuma took over and erased everyone's memories. Well, almost normal, it was still a shelter against the end of the world.

There is an egyptian style eye on one of the walls. Creepy.

We have a class picture. Mukuro is in it, but the most interesting thing is that Makoto isn't. Did he not take part in the previous class? Maybe that's why he's just a "lucky student", he was picked now just to fill a gap?

We get a truth bullet about memory involving GJ? Interesting. I guess it's relevant to how Toko discovered the body. Knew there was something in that.

Sayaka's video. So the Mastermind erased people's memories to make them forget why they wanted to stay in the school. Which led them to kill each other to leave. Maybe Sayaka's friends were already dead before the game started and she didn't even know it, even though her previous self was ready to stay in school to be safe. Damn.

GJ is proposing we unleash her on the mastermind. I approve. Then she reverts back to Toko. "No human language can describe the disappointment I'm feeling right now". Well put, Kyoko.

The narration is really implying this is the final trial. I guess Chapter 7 is the epilogue, or something? Or there is yet another trial ahead.

The Popo posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

I may or may not have seen a pic of Toko when I searched for the name of one of the games (the one with girls) to see what it was about and saw her picture. So I know she survives, unless that game is not canon. Sorry, but it's hard when you can't even look up what games there are in the series without getting spoilers.

Do you have any questions about Ultra Despair Girls that we can answer, or did you find most of the info you wanted? Ultimately, the game takes place between DR1 & DR2 chronologically, but if you do play it, you should play it after you beat DR2.

Also, its completely different from the rest of the series. Somewhat of a spinoff, but its definitely canon. The 3 main games are the whodunnit games, whereas UDG is an action adventure. I think Im in the minority when I say I enjoyed it...

Eh not really for now. Thanks.

Yeah I'll just go ahead and say there are not 7 chapters and I'm not sure where you got that <_<

All of the DR games are 6 chapters.

And I'll just go ahead and ask if there's a reason to tell him that at this juncture.
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tcaz2 posted...

Yeah I'll just go ahead and say there are not 7 chapters and I'm not sure where you got that <_<

All of the DR games are 6 chapters.

The menu shows 7 chapters.

Okay, I had no intention of clarifying this, but since it's essentially spoiled anyway, yes, the last chapter is just the ending. It has it's own menu for the purpose of being able to see it again, I think.
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Oh ok.

Well I don't mind the spoiler, I dislike it when I think something is not ending but it is.

I read the ending of Dr. McNinja thinking it had 3 parts for some reason (I guess I just assumed it), and when it ended on Part 2 I was pretty annoyed.

Hiro theorizes everyone is the mastermind. Sorry Hiro, but you're not the MC. I mean, a game with you as MC would suck.

Oh it's the picture. Nice ploy, Monokuma.

Junko's face never shows. This is like Sayaka's dieing message. A bit too obvious. Or maybe it's because I had a spoiler.

Monokuma is taking part in the debates now? The Mastermind must really be on the edge of their seat.

Toko is mad she was made to go all cutesy. Considering Toko, that would be an improvement.

Monokuma is demanding evidence it was not Mukuro who attacked Makoto. Shut up bear, you don't even get a vote.

Kyoko is savoring her words as she shows her scars to prove she is innocent. Hardcore.

Oh it's the Junko who died early. She's Mukuro and those wounds are for being stabbed by Monokuma. The real Junko has never showed herself. And I spent the whole game thinking that murder was staged.

"Makoto's nitpicky nature". Aka his status as an adventure game protagonist. Click everything, talk to everyone.

BTB against Monokuma. Take that, bear.

The Mastermind is paying for making this game too fair. She could have just incinerated all the bodies in the morgue before opening it up for investigation. It would be dirty but maybe the audience wouldn't have paid attention. Monokuma has done dirtier things in this game. It's like how I say they should have sealed the bath from the beginning.

Makoto is cornered and is on the verge of giving up. Where is Mia Fey to show up and say "You are thinking too normal, think crazy"?

Monokuma is desperate, so he resorts to a BTB where he keeps going "Graaar!". Very strong argument, indeed.

Those comic book presentations are the best part of this game. I hope the sequels have more of it.

Real!Junko doesn't look that different from the fake one. But what is that voice lol. Oh never mind she's pretending.

Oh I remember her saying her photos were photoshopped. Damn I always blew hher cover at the start. It did seem like the magazines looked slightly different though. That's a nice piece of detail, developers.