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Inviso
07/30/19 9:56:45 PM
#251:


red sox 777 posted...
Delaney should run as a Republican.....


He SHOULD. Centrist Dems SHOULD be the Republican Party. Instead of a having an opposition party of identity politics and racism.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 9:58:46 PM
#252:


I had thought that people might have learned from Trump's disastrous trade war that protectionism is dumb, but I guess not...!

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MoogleKupo141
07/30/19 9:59:48 PM
#253:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I might be going all in on Delaney if he had a chance in hell


whaaaaat
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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:00:29 PM
#254:


What? Trump's trade war has been a huge success so far. Strongest economy in decades. Virtually no damage to our economy even in the short term. Not surprising that protectionism should be getting more popular in light of these results.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 10:05:14 PM
#255:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
whaaaaat
What are Delaney fans even called
Delane-brains??

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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:06:12 PM
#256:


Delaney is correct that Warren's wealth tax is probably unconstitutional. Would need a constitutional amendment and is just a non-starter unless it comes from a Republican.
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Grimlyn
07/30/19 10:06:52 PM
#257:


delameys
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MoogleKupo141
07/30/19 10:07:28 PM
#258:


LordoftheMorons posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
whaaaaat
What are Delaney fans even called
Delane-brains??


something that doesnt exist doesnt need a name
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Nelson_Mandela
07/30/19 10:07:56 PM
#259:


red sox 777 posted...
Delaney is correct that Warren's wealth tax is probably unconstitutional. Would need a constitutional amendment and is just a non-starter unless it comes from a Republican.

Yep. It's pretty astonishing how little Dems understand the specific limitations the federal government has to levy taxes.
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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:11:56 PM
#260:


I'm sure Elizabeth Warren understands it perfectly well. Wasn't she a professor at Harvard Law School? But it's not a serious proposal so that makes it look like pandering. Then again, Trump has proposed unconstitutional things too, and it does generate debate, so maybe....
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Suprak the Stud
07/30/19 10:12:50 PM
#261:


Both you and Trump say the earth is round so how can we expect you to be different Senator Sanders HMMM GOTCHA BOYYYYYYY
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Inviso
07/30/19 10:12:51 PM
#262:


Fuck off with that question, CNN. Trump is very much not anti-interventionism, based on his actions.
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Grimlyn
07/30/19 10:13:53 PM
#263:


what the fuck was that question from Tapper to Bernie

You and Trump both promoted anti-interventionism during your campaigns, so how can voters expect you to be any different from Trump?........................................ Really?
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Nelson_Mandela
07/30/19 10:14:39 PM
#264:


red sox 777 posted...
Wasn't she a professor at Harvard Law School?

Yes because she lied about being a minority to get the job
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xp1337
07/30/19 10:17:18 PM
#265:


LordoftheMorons posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
whaaaaat
What are Delaney fans even called
Delane-brains??

Delane-in-the-membrane
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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:18:58 PM
#266:


As far as Afghanistan goes, these Dems all seem to agree with Trump. We're beat. We lost.
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SgtSphynx
07/30/19 10:21:54 PM
#267:


https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1156385103297372161
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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:23:13 PM
#268:


Hickenlooper with a freudian slip. "We have to get back to nuclear proliferation."
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 10:26:50 PM
#269:


red sox 777 posted...
Hickenlooper with a freudian slip. "We have to get back to nuclear proliferation."
Between Trump tearing up the Iran deal for no reason and trading leverage on North Korea for a photo up, you could say that we're well on our way already!

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Suprak the Stud
07/30/19 10:32:13 PM
#270:


Is Steve Bullock ok?
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Grimlyn
07/30/19 10:34:59 PM
#271:


lmao all these right of center candidates pulling the same "not left or right" closing statement
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ChaosTonyV4
07/30/19 10:35:03 PM
#272:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Wasn't she a professor at Harvard Law School?

Yes because she lied about being a minority to get the job


Actually, she was already a professor before that incident.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 10:36:18 PM
#273:


Ryan: But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

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Nelson_Mandela
07/30/19 10:36:37 PM
#274:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Wasn't she a professor at Harvard Law School?

Yes because she lied about being a minority to get the job


Actually, she was already a professor before that incident.

Oh right she just lied to get tenure basically. Also lied on her bar entrance form. And who knows what else.
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Grimlyn
07/30/19 10:36:40 PM
#275:


also I legitimately forgot Hickenlooper was even here
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Suprak the Stud
07/30/19 10:40:04 PM
#276:


You know I make fun of Williamson but she legit did a better job than like half of the people they let up there today.

I dont know how to vocalize how sad that makes me.
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red sox 777
07/30/19 10:42:53 PM
#277:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Wasn't she a professor at Harvard Law School?

Yes because she lied about being a minority to get the job


Actually, she was already a professor before that incident.

Oh right she just lied to get tenure basically. Also lied on her bar entrance form. And who knows what else.


I thought the DNA test proved she didn't lie. She has 1/32 ancestry or something like that. Enough that not that long ago Virginia would have charged her with a crime for marrying a white man.
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Inviso
07/30/19 11:09:13 PM
#278:


My debate rankings:

Buttigieg > Warren > Sanders > Bullock > Williamson > Delaney > O'Rourke > Klobuchar > Ryan > Hickenlooper
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MoogleKupo141
07/30/19 11:12:39 PM
#279:


this is incredibly anecdotal, but based on my specific twitter feed I didnt even realize Beto was in the debate tonight. It seems like he didnt make any impact at all. Klobuchar too.
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Nrrr
07/30/19 11:13:12 PM
#280:


This debate was atrocious on the part of CNN. Such right wing framing on every question and then giving little time to respond. Bernie and Warren did good, Williamson and Pete/Beto had a moment or two, and the polling at 1% dudes sounded like republicans every time they spoke. I don't think I will be able to watch the one tomorrow without Bernie or Warren tbh.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 11:15:37 PM
#281:


Wow, I could have sworn that Delaney had like the third most speaking time, but he was actually 6th.

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Grimlyn
07/30/19 11:23:18 PM
#282:


Sanders > Warren > Buttigieg > Williamson > Klobuchar > uhhhh can I just jump off a bridge

That's trying to just rank debate performance, but man Delaney and Ryan were detestable, Bullock a complete mess, and O'Rourke & Hickenlooper were just missing in aciton. Simply ranking Klobuchar is even giving her more recognition than she deserves for tonight.

Delaney's given a lot of time because he fights off with the progressives and it should help his visibility and all, but good god he's the ultimate wet blanket candidate.

Beto needs to drop out because I can't express how sad it is that he went from rockstar candidate for Texas that was being lavishly praised as an upcoming White Obama, to legitimately and unironically flopping far below orb master Williamson.
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HeroDelTiempo17
07/30/19 11:31:36 PM
#283:


Beto is just fucking terrible in this format. It isn't his thing. Though honestly I dont think the format does anyone much favors except literal joke candidates like Delaney and Williamson.

But Beto's performance here convinced me that he's running mainly to get Texans (and maybe other red states) to even pay attention to Democrats, and at least TRY to convince people Texas is in play, which I don't know if it'll work but I respect.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/19 11:32:11 PM
#284:


The one trap Delaney really set up for himself (and Warren got him on with her why are you even running line) was in framing his ideas as being more realistic rather than better (which he clearly believes they are). Hoping Biden doesnt set himself up for the same.

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Suprak the Stud
07/31/19 12:16:50 AM
#285:


https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/1156394192643469312

I don't know what's funnier. That Marianne Williamson was the most googled candidate in 49 out of 50 states or that Montana doesn't seem to know who the fuck Steve Bullock is.
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/19 12:20:56 AM
#286:


https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1156397393132363776

Delaneymentum!!!

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ChaosTonyV4
07/31/19 12:26:51 AM
#287:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1156397393132363776

Delaneymentum!!!


*insert your cringe gif of choice here*
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Grimlyn
07/31/19 12:32:22 AM
#288:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
*insert your cringe gif of choice here*

tnISp0n
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TheRock1525
07/31/19 1:07:10 AM
#289:


I didn't know Bill from King of the Hill was running.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/31/19 1:57:21 AM
#290:


Its weird to see Hillary-loving Bernie-haters lust after Delaney, he spent this debate going wayyyy harder on Warren and Bernie (and failing) than Bernie ever did with Hillary, yet all you ever heard was Bernie was too mean to ol Hildawg.
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Nrrr
07/31/19 2:01:11 AM
#291:


That's because they were offended at him having the gall to go after mother when it was rightfully her turn.

Especially since he is NOT A DEMOCRAT
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/19 2:02:24 AM
#292:


Delaney went after Bernie and Warren's policies. He never baselessly implied that they were corrupt like Bernie did with Clinton.

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DoomTheGyarados
07/31/19 2:11:38 AM
#293:


Um... Bernie literally campaigned for her. Get the fuck over it.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/31/19 2:13:54 AM
#294:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Um... Bernie literally campaigned for her. Get the fuck over it.


To be fair to him, I brought it back up.

But I dont think his reasoning makes sense. Bernie attacked her for speeches to Wall Street in an election where Wall Street was wildly unpopular, it was a perfectly criticism.

Literally Fox News and Ben Shapiro are talking about how Delaney was exactly right and the Socialists are bad.
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07/31/19 2:19:52 AM
#295:


The message taken away by a lot of people when he criticized her for her speeches (and I don't know whether or not Bernie meant it, but this was the effect) was the Clinton was literally in the pocket of Wall Street. That was not true, and it's the type of thing that's really hard to walk back. I would complain about it a lot less if he had just been attacking her economic policies themselves.

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Nrrr
07/31/19 2:20:23 AM
#296:


Republicans who find racism gaudy like lotm think that the masses could never have suspected that famously beloved person Hillary Clinton was a corrupt politician without him saying so. After all, she received a quality education and has an impeccable resume. There was no spotlight on her before the 2016 primary election, and there is no context to people deciding they don't like her!
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DoomTheGyarados
07/31/19 2:22:00 AM
#297:


She is as much in the pocket of wall street as many other establishment figures. To the point where someone doesn't need to be comic book villain corrupt to not have good policies for the countries. If Bernie had thought she was comic book villain corrupt he would obviously have not campaigned for her vigorously. Like, I am so over this argument being used by people. Think he is crazy, disagree with his policies, but the man worked very hard for her and the backstabbing after the fact by bitter Clinton supporters is just absurd.
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/19 2:22:08 AM
#298:


It may surprise you to know that I'm not, in fact, a Republican!

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GuessMyUserName
07/31/19 2:25:54 AM
#299:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Its weird to see Hillary-

just gonna pause you right here and say please stop

LordoftheMorons posted...
It may surprise you to know that I'm not, in fact, a Republican!

tbf in a sensible world you be!

that is to say in a sensible world the Delaneys would be the Republican party
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LordoftheMorons
07/31/19 2:26:46 AM
#300:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
She is as much in the pocket of wall street as many other establishment figures. To the point where someone doesn't need to be comic book villain corrupt to not have good policies for the countries. If Bernie had thought she was comic book villain corrupt he would obviously have not campaigned for her vigorously. Like, I am so over this argument being used by people. Think he is crazy, disagree with his policies, but the man worked very hard for her and the backstabbing after the fact by bitter Clinton supporters is just absurd.
I appreciate that he campaigned for her after she was nominated and I'm not saying he's a terrible person or anything. I'm saying that the types of attacks he used were sticky, and that candidates should generally avoid attacking each others' character in primaries unless their opponents are spectacularly terrible (like Trump).

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