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Bio1590 07/18/19 3:30:10 PM #52:	Balrog0 posted... Bio1590 posted... Doom_Art posted... bover_87 posted... Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife. I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that. He's basically the prime example as to why the old "Posting false information as fact" definition of Trolling should still be explicitly stated in the ToU and harshly moderated because that's all he does. Well, I dunno, because the thing is I genuinely don't think he thinks he's lying. He really thinks these things from what I can tell. Including that his wife left him due to Obamacare. I don't even mean that, like the main example I always bring up is the time he was arguing about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident and he just straight up said "The GPS data showed that Zimmerman was never within 100 feet of Trayvon until Trayvon jumped him". He abandoned the topic after I asked him to cite his sources and he couldn't. You know why he couldn't? None of the GPS data on Trayvon's phone from that night was recovered. Meaning that was just some absolute horseshit he came up with on the spot to try and further derail the topic. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:924863849] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote>Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.</quote> I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that.</quote> He's basically the prime example as to why the old "Posting false information as fact" definition of Trolling should still be explicitly stated in the ToU and harshly moderated because that's all he does.</quote> Well, I dunno, because the thing is I genuinely don't think he thinks he's lying. He really thinks these things from what I can tell. Including that his wife left him due to Obamacare.</quote> I don't even mean that, like the main example I always bring up is the time he was arguing about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident and he just straight up said "The GPS data showed that Zimmerman was never within 100 feet of Trayvon until Trayvon jumped him". He abandoned the topic after I asked him to cite his sources and he couldn't. You know why he couldn't? None of the GPS data on Trayvon's phone from that night was recovered. Meaning that was just some absolute horseshit he came up with on the spot to try and further derail the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativeme 07/18/19 3:34:55 PM #53:	then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money. <cite>creativeme posted [p:924864059] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/18/19 3:41:03 PM #54:	Bio1590 posted... I don't even mean that, like the main example I always bring up is the time he was arguing about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident and he just straight up said "The GPS data showed that Zimmerman was never within 100 feet of Trayvon until Trayvon jumped him". He abandoned the topic after I asked him to cite his sources and he couldn't. You know why he couldn't? None of the GPS data on Trayvon's phone from that night was recovered. Meaning that was just some absolute horseshit he came up with on the spot to try and further derail the topic. He has a habit of tucking his tail and running when people ask him to back up his bullshit. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924864306] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't even mean that, like the main example I always bring up is the time he was arguing about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident and he just straight up said "The GPS data showed that Zimmerman was never within 100 feet of Trayvon until Trayvon jumped him". He abandoned the topic after I asked him to cite his sources and he couldn't. You know why he couldn't? None of the GPS data on Trayvon's phone from that night was recovered. Meaning that was just some absolute horseshit he came up with on the spot to try and further derail the topic.</quote> He has a habit of tucking his tail and running when people ask him to back up his bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 3:46:35 PM #55:	Bio1590 posted... I like how you say this as if Trump's batshit insane tariffs aren't ACTUALLY costing Americans jobs all over the country. I have repeatedly stated on this board that ALL tariffs are bad, explicitly because they cause jobs. Balrog0 posted... He really thinks these things from what I can tell. Including that his wife left him due to Obamacare. I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924864581] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>I like how you say this as if Trump's batshit insane tariffs aren't ACTUALLY costing Americans jobs all over the country.</quote> I have repeatedly stated on this board that ALL tariffs are bad, explicitly because they cause jobs. <cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>He really thinks these things from what I can tell. Including that his wife left him due to Obamacare.</quote> I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/18/19 3:49:21 PM #56:	darkjedilink posted... I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that. Then prove it. Show us where he admitted that. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924864722] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that. </quote> Then prove it. Show us where he admitted that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/18/19 3:50:13 PM #57:	creativeme posted... then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money. You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:924864765] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativeme posted...</cite> <quote>then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money.</quote> You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/18/19 3:51:21 PM #58:	This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924864820] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 07/18/19 3:51:59 PM #59:	Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. What marriage? --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:924864845] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> What marriage?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/18/19 3:52:01 PM #60:	Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. I agree, folks who feel the need to constantly bring it up come off as more annoying than he does --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:924864848] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> I agree, folks who feel the need to constantly bring it up come off as more annoying than he does</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/18/19 3:52:32 PM #61:	PleaseClap posted... Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. What marriage? Lol --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924864881] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> What marriage?</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProbablyaCat 07/18/19 4:08:54 PM #62:	PleaseClap posted... Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. What marriage? Nice <cite>ProbablyaCat posted [p:924865501] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> What marriage?</quote> Nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 4:11:11 PM #63:	Bio1590 posted... creativeme posted... then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money. You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this. But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it? Or for the increase in tax liability for those on the lower end of the pay scale? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924865594] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativeme posted...</cite> <quote>then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money.</quote> You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this.</quote> But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it? Or for the increase in tax liability for those on the lower end of the pay scale?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/18/19 4:14:54 PM #64:	PleaseClap posted... Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. What marriage? fantastic post <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924865754] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> What marriage?</quote> fantastic post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/18/19 4:17:09 PM #65:	darkjedilink posted... Bio1590 posted... creativeme posted... then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money. You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this. But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it? Or for the increase in tax liability for those on the lower end of the pay scale? raises hand Billionaires and multimillionaires could survive with a few less lifetimes worth of money to help as well --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924865848] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativeme posted...</cite> <quote>then the people making $15 an hour need to be bumped up to like $25 an hour. it's just getting to the point that what's the point of school if you can just flip burgers for the same kind of money.</quote> You will find that everyone in support of raising the minimum wage is also in favour of this.</quote> But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it? Or for the increase in tax liability for those on the lower end of the pay scale?</quote> raises hand Billionaires and multimillionaires could survive with a few less lifetimes worth of money to help as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/18/19 4:17:21 PM #66:	darkjedilink posted... But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it You probably expect this by now with every post you make, but you're wrong. All the evidence shows us that prices are not heavily impacted by minimum wage increases. http://ftp.iza.org/dp1072.pdf Now, a federal minimum wage is a dumb idea for different reasons but whatever. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924865856] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it</quote> You probably expect this by now with every post you make, but you're wrong. All the evidence shows us that prices are not heavily impacted by minimum wage increases. http://ftp.iza.org/dp1072.pdf Now, a federal minimum wage is a dumb idea for different reasons but whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 4:22:03 PM #67:	Broseph_Stalin posted... darkjedilink posted... But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it You probably expect this by now with every post you make, but you're wrong. All the evidence shows us that prices are not heavily impacted by minimum wage increases. http://ftp.iza.org/dp1072.pdf Now, a federal minimum wage is a dumb idea for different reasons but whatever. Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924866054] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>But are they also in favor of the rise in pricing for everything that will follow suit to actually pay for it</quote> You probably expect this by now with every post you make, but you're wrong. All the evidence shows us that prices are not heavily impacted by minimum wage increases. http://ftp.iza.org/dp1072.pdf Now, a federal minimum wage is a dumb idea for different reasons but whatever.</quote> Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 4:22:25 PM #68:	darkjedilink posted... I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that. No, you did literally say that. Upon being pushed on it being a ridiculous opinion, you further explained that financial stress is the leading cause of divorce, which is the mechanism through which you claimed obamacare destroyed your marriage. I don't think I've commented on this topic except to confirm you have blamed Obamacare for your wife leaving you, but if I did I can see how you might interpret this further clarification as me 'admitting' I know you didn't say that Antifar posted... This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage. to be blunt, I think it's both more interesting and more politically relevant than what this topic is about. the house pushing legislation that they want to do for electoral purposes is pretty routine, but the kind of personal intensity with which people hated Obama and how this lead to Trump is still a pretty live question imo --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924866067] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that.</quote> No, you did literally say that. Upon being pushed on it being a ridiculous opinion, you further explained that financial stress is the leading cause of divorce, which is the mechanism through which you claimed obamacare destroyed your marriage. I don't think I've commented on this topic except to confirm you have blamed Obamacare for your wife leaving you, but if I did I can see how you might interpret this further clarification as me 'admitting' I know you didn't say that <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>This topic extremely doesn't have to be about djl's marriage.</quote> to be blunt, I think it's both more interesting and more politically relevant than what this topic is about. the house pushing legislation that they want to do for electoral purposes is pretty routine, but the kind of personal intensity with which people hated Obama and how this lead to Trump is still a pretty live question imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 4:25:04 PM #69:	Balrog0 posted... darkjedilink posted... I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that. No, you did literally say that. Upon being pushed on it being a ridiculous opinion, you further explained that financial stress is the leading cause of divorce, which is the mechanism through which you claimed obamacare destroyed your marriage. I don't think I've commented on this topic except to confirm you have blamed Obamacare for your wife leaving you, but if I did I can see how you might interpret this further clarification as me 'admitting' I know you didn't say that. Until this post, I actually respected you. Disagreed with you, sure - a lot - but always respected that you seemed to try to come off as more than a Dem memelord. Now you just proves you are one. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924866168] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say that. You know I didn't say that. I know you know, because you've admitted before that you know I didn't say that.</quote> No, you did literally say that. Upon being pushed on it being a ridiculous opinion, you further explained that financial stress is the leading cause of divorce, which is the mechanism through which you claimed obamacare destroyed your marriage. I don't think I've commented on this topic except to confirm you have blamed Obamacare for your wife leaving you, but if I did I can see how you might interpret this further clarification as me 'admitting' I know you didn't say that.</quote> Until this post, I actually respected you. Disagreed with you, sure - a lot - but always respected that you seemed to try to come off as more than a Dem memelord. Now you just proves you are one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 4:28:02 PM #70:	darkjedilink posted... Until this post, I actually respected you. Disagreed with you, sure - a lot - but always respected that you seemed to try to come off as more than a Dem memelord. Now you just proves you are one. Because I remember you blaming Obamacare for your divorce makes me a 'Dem memelord'? I literally just explained to you the conversation we had when you made that claim, do you remember it differently? If so go ahead and tell me what I'm misremembering. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924866298] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Until this post, I actually respected you. Disagreed with you, sure - a lot - but always respected that you seemed to try to come off as more than a Dem memelord. Now you just proves you are one. </quote> Because I remember you blaming Obamacare for your divorce makes me a 'Dem memelord'? I literally just explained to you the conversation we had when you made that claim, do you remember it differently? If so go ahead and tell me what I'm misremembering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 4:28:41 PM #71:	also, I like that the level of respect I had was that I 'try to come off as more' than something. Not that you thought I was more than something, just that I put in the effort to hide it. Cool, cool. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924866312] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>also, I like that the level of respect I had was that I 'try to come off as more' than something. Not that you thought I was more than something, just that I put in the effort to hide it. Cool, cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/18/19 4:34:27 PM #72:	darkjedilink posted... Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll. 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924866585] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll.</quote> 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 07/18/19 4:37:57 PM #73:	bobbaaay posted... "I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!" And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:924866735] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"</quote> And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/18/19 4:43:46 PM #74:	Broseph_Stalin posted... darkjedilink posted... Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll. 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself. This is the part where he tucks tail, and runs away.......... --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924866976] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll.</quote> 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself.</quote> This is the part where he tucks tail, and runs away..........</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/18/19 4:56:44 PM #75:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something. Its not easy working in a restaurant. --- <cite>The_Undying_84 posted...</cite> We don't necessarily know all the risks of ... guns, or anything. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:924867493] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote>And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something.</quote> Its not easy working in a restaurant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/18/19 4:57:48 PM #76:	There are reasons beyond the money why people don't like working minimum wage jobs. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924867543] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>There are reasons beyond the money why people don't like working minimum wage jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 5:02:36 PM #77:	Antifar posted... There are reasons beyond the money why people don't like working minimum wage jobs. That's true, but it's also true that wages rise near the minimum wage in order to compete for workers. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924867752] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>There are reasons beyond the money why people don't like working minimum wage jobs.</quote> That's true, but it's also true that wages rise near the minimum wage in order to compete for workers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 5:20:55 PM #78:	Broseph_Stalin posted... darkjedilink posted... Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll. 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself. I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924868568] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Do I really have to explain why that study, from 15 years ago, doesn't work when talking about more than doubling the minimum wage, and increasing wages in almost every industry in America? Like, you know that restaurants literally can't double their payroll and stay open without increasing prices, right? Tell you what - show me ONE restaurant that costs less than $40 per person to get a meal that can outright swallow a doubling of their hourly payroll.</quote> 1. The concept of a minimum wage hasn't changed in 15 years, that's not how economics work. 2. Both the article and post ITT have explained that these would be incremental increases, you have a problem with reading comprehension. 3. Restaurants pay a lot of their staff on a tipped wage anyway. Aside from maybe Admiral, I've never seen anyone here with such an astounding commitment to being wrong about everything. Has it even been an hour since you said the Democratic party was founded in the 1780s? Pace yourself.</quote> I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/18/19 5:40:24 PM #79:	darkjedilink posted... Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage? And they deserved to close if minimum wage made their business unviable. --- <cite>The_Undying_84 posted...</cite> We don't necessarily know all the risks of ... guns, or anything. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:924869383] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage?</quote> And they deserved to close if minimum wage made their business unviable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/18/19 5:45:20 PM #80:	I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:924869582] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/18/19 5:48:56 PM #81:	Bio1590 posted... I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage. Its not hard to believe. People love shilling for corporate. --- <cite>The_Undying_84 posted...</cite> We don't necessarily know all the risks of ... guns, or anything. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:924869724] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage.</quote> Its not hard to believe. People love shilling for corporate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 5:50:52 PM #82:	CommonJoe posted... Bio1590 posted... I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage. Its not hard to believe. People love shilling for corporate. what?? how is it not a valid argument against the minimum wage? the issue I have is that it's hyperbolic on its face. the research on the minimum wage doesn't show any long term job losses except in specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants. But those job losses are offset by growth in other sectors, where wages are held artificially low due to businesses have monopsony-like control over the labor market --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924869816] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonJoe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage.</quote> Its not hard to believe. People love shilling for corporate.</quote> what?? how is it not a valid argument against the minimum wage? the issue I have is that it's hyperbolic on its face. the research on the minimum wage doesn't show any long term job losses except in specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants. But those job losses are offset by growth in other sectors, where wages are held artificially low due to businesses have monopsony-like control over the labor market</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/19 5:51:49 PM #83:	Bio1590 posted... I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage. There's no evidence to support it, to any statistically significant degree, beyond the anecdotal. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:924869862] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe people really think that "Businesses will close if they're forced to pay people a more liveable wage!" is a valid argument against raising the Minimum Wage.</quote> There's no evidence to support it, to any statistically significant degree, beyond the anecdotal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/18/19 5:52:20 PM #84:	Balrog0 posted... what?? Corporations are and always have been whats killing small businesses. Scapegoating the minimum wage just makes you a corporate shill, regardless of whether its intentional or not. --- <cite>The_Undying_84 posted...</cite> We don't necessarily know all the risks of ... guns, or anything. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:924869887] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>what?? </quote> Corporations are and always have been whats killing small businesses. Scapegoating the minimum wage just makes you a corporate shill, regardless of whether its intentional or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/19 5:53:11 PM #85:	Balrog0 posted... specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants Do you happen to have a source handy? All mine are just aggregate numbers. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:924869919] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants</quote> Do you happen to have a source handy? All mine are just aggregate numbers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 5:54:35 PM #86:	CommonJoe posted... Corporations are and always have been whats killing small businesses. big corporations argue for higher minimum wages from time to time because they can absorb higher minimum wages than small businesses... it was a common tactic for Walmart on a state level CommonJoe posted... Scapegoating the minimum wage just makes you a corporate shill, regardless of whether its intentional or not. how is it scapegoating the minimum wage? Im genuinely confused over what you mean by that. If the minimum wage causes job losses, that's bad -- unless you don't think people should need to work in order to survive, in which case what is the point of a 'living wage'? I honestly don't have a problem with either idea, I just think it is inconsistent --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924869977] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonJoe posted...</cite> <quote>Corporations are and always have been whats killing small businesses. </quote> big corporations argue for higher minimum wages from time to time because they can absorb higher minimum wages than small businesses... it was a common tactic for Walmart on a state level <cite>CommonJoe posted...</cite> <quote>Scapegoating the minimum wage just makes you a corporate shill, regardless of whether its intentional or not.</quote> how is it scapegoating the minimum wage? Im genuinely confused over what you mean by that. If the minimum wage causes job losses, that's bad -- unless you don't think people should need to work in order to survive, in which case what is the point of a 'living wage'? I honestly don't have a problem with either idea, I just think it is inconsistent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/18/19 5:55:12 PM #87:	darkjedilink posted... Won't pass, won't be signed into law, and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected. The restaurant she worked at closed due to a $15 minimum wage, and her opponent will point that out at every turn. Employee wages are part of a business's operating expenses. Any business that can't stay afloat without paying their employees peanuts doesn't deserve to stay in business. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:924870001] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Won't pass, won't be signed into law, and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected. The restaurant she worked at closed due to a $15 minimum wage, and her opponent will point that out at every turn.</quote> Employee wages are part of a business's operating expenses. Any business that can't stay afloat without paying their employees peanuts doesn't deserve to stay in business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 07/18/19 5:57:55 PM #88:	Its already going to be $15 here in nyc at the end of the year --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:924870116] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>Its already going to be $15 here in nyc at the end of the year</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/18/19 6:01:09 PM #89:	YookaLaylee posted... Its already going to be $15 here in nyc at the end of the year Localized minimum wages are probably better anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:924870254] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote>Its already going to be $15 here in nyc at the end of the year</quote> Localized minimum wages are probably better anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/18/19 6:06:46 PM #90:	darkjedilink posted... I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage? I'm glad you keep bringing up restaurants since one of the most important studies done on the minimum wage looked at them specifically: http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf tl;dr, New Jersey increases minimum wage while Pennsylvania doesn't. The study found that NJ had no relative unemployment increase. Other studies have all found the same thing, MW increases have little to no effect on employment levels: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/86w5m90m https://www.sole-jole.org/17722.pdf <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924870487] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage?</quote> I'm glad you keep bringing up restaurants since one of the most important studies done on the minimum wage looked at them specifically: http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf tl;dr, New Jersey increases minimum wage while Pennsylvania doesn't. The study found that NJ had no relative unemployment increase. Other studies have all found the same thing, MW increases have little to no effect on employment levels: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/86w5m90m https://www.sole-jole.org/17722.pdf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 07/18/19 6:09:39 PM #91:	ITT - Lots of people have no idea that minimum wage is not raising at the same rate as inflation. --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:924870609] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>ITT - Lots of people have no idea that minimum wage is not raising at the same rate as inflation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/18/19 6:10:30 PM #92:	Questionmarktarius posted... Balrog0 posted... specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants Do you happen to have a source handy? All mine are just aggregate numbers. well, to be clear, it's not a closed matter so my wording was overly strong. what I mean to say is that the CBO's reported job losses are due to their reliance on studies that focus on specific sectors, like restaurants, or specific subgroups, like teens. I would argue that the best research doesn't show even those job losses, but I guess Im trying to say that if those results were true that would be something to reconsider http://www.economics.uci.edu/~dneumark/neumark,salas,wascher-ilrr-14.pdf this is a good discussion of the debate, particularly under the section Dube, Lester, and Reich (2010) tis actually rather technical though --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:924870644] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>specific sectors -- one of which is indeed restaurants</quote> Do you happen to have a source handy? All mine are just aggregate numbers.</quote> well, to be clear, it's not a closed matter so my wording was overly strong. what I mean to say is that the CBO's reported job losses are due to their reliance on studies that focus on specific sectors, like restaurants, or specific subgroups, like teens. I would argue that the best research doesn't show even those job losses, but I guess Im trying to say that if those results were true that would be something to reconsider http://www.economics.uci.edu/~dneumark/neumark,salas,wascher-ilrr-14.pdf this is a good discussion of the debate, particularly under the section Dube, Lester, and Reich (2010) tis actually rather technical though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 07/18/19 6:26:59 PM #93:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... bobbaaay posted... "I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!" And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something. Lol I absolutely hope so. Dont get me wrong, Im certainly not in the well its min wage, youre not supposed to make enough to live off it brigade but its absolute horseshit that EMTs play a critical role in a modern civilization, shoulder a huge burden of responsibility and would get paid the same as a fast food worker.... despite needing to have several certifications and the ability to not fuck anything up, which is very rare in the fast food industry despite not being intellectually or physically challenging industry. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:924871376] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"</quote> And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something.</quote> Lol I absolutely hope so. Dont get me wrong, Im certainly not in the well its min wage, youre not supposed to make enough to live off it brigade but its absolute horseshit that EMTs play a critical role in a modern civilization, shoulder a huge burden of responsibility and would get paid the same as a fast food worker.... despite needing to have several certifications and the ability to not fuck anything up, which is very rare in the fast food industry despite not being intellectually or physically challenging industry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 07/18/19 6:41:56 PM #94:	EdgeMaster posted... Trigg3rH4ppy posted... bobbaaay posted... "I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!" And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something. Lol I absolutely hope so. Dont get me wrong, Im certainly not in the well its min wage, youre not supposed to make enough to live off it brigade but its absolute horseshit that EMTs play a critical role in a modern civilization, shoulder a huge burden of responsibility and would get paid the same as a fast food worker.... despite needing to have several certifications and the ability to not fuck anything up, which is very rare in the fast food industry despite not being intellectually or physically challenging industry. I agree with you,I just passed $15 last year after 5yrs of building stratospheric balloons for NASA.We should be grandfathered the pay gap. --- Fishmonger <cite>modena posted [p:924872022] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bobbaaay posted...</cite> <quote>"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"</quote> And their pay will raise appropriately or else EMTs will be quitting their jobs to go work some stupid easy job like in a restaurant or something.</quote> Lol I absolutely hope so. Dont get me wrong, Im certainly not in the well its min wage, youre not supposed to make enough to live off it brigade but its absolute horseshit that EMTs play a critical role in a modern civilization, shoulder a huge burden of responsibility and would get paid the same as a fast food worker.... despite needing to have several certifications and the ability to not fuck anything up, which is very rare in the fast food industry despite not being intellectually or physically challenging industry.</quote> I agree with you,I just passed $15 last year after 5yrs of building stratospheric balloons for NASA.We should be grandfathered the pay gap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/18/19 6:44:12 PM #95:	Broseph_Stalin posted... darkjedilink posted... I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage? I'm glad you keep bringing up restaurants since one of the most important studies done on the minimum wage looked at them specifically: http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf tl;dr, New Jersey increases minimum wage while Pennsylvania doesn't. The study found that NJ had no relative unemployment increase. Other studies have all found the same thing, MW increases have little to no effect on employment levels: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/86w5m90m https://www.sole-jole.org/17722.pdf Again, AOC's own former employer closed up shop. Every fast food restaurant will either have to raise prices or close. I know, because I've seen the balance sheet. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:924872127] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I used to actually read the P&L statements at restaurants as part of my job. Doubling the minimum wage over the next five years will close restaurants. It already HAS in cities where they've implemented it - the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage increases. Like, did you know that? Did you know that the restaurant AOC worked at closed due to minimum wage?</quote> I'm glad you keep bringing up restaurants since one of the most important studies done on the minimum wage looked at them specifically: http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf tl;dr, New Jersey increases minimum wage while Pennsylvania doesn't. The study found that NJ had no relative unemployment increase. Other studies have all found the same thing, MW increases have little to no effect on employment levels: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/86w5m90m https://www.sole-jole.org/17722.pdf</quote> Again, AOC's own former employer closed up shop. Every fast food restaurant will either have to raise prices or close. I know, because I've seen the balance sheet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctaviaMeIody69 07/18/19 6:44:48 PM #96:	Of course they would. <cite>OctaviaMeIody69 posted [p:924872154] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>Of course they would.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/18/19 6:47:25 PM #97:	darkjedilink posted... Again, AOC's own former employer closed up shop. Every fast food restaurant will either have to raise prices or close. I know, because I've seen the balance sheet. What a spectacular rebuttal to a mountain of evidence. You are a logical fallacy in human form. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924872271] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Again, AOC's own former employer closed up shop. Every fast food restaurant will either have to raise prices or close. I know, because I've seen the balance sheet.</quote> What a spectacular rebuttal to a mountain of evidence. You are a logical fallacy in human form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 07/18/19 6:50:04 PM #98:	Maybe if these places paid their employees more and didn't expect customers to pick up the slack this wouldn't be such a hotly debated issue. What's worse? Getting food for 30 and giving a 5 dollar tip or just paying 35 outright? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/nDVyBfn.gif <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:924872377] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>Maybe if these places paid their employees more and didn't expect customers to pick up the slack this wouldn't be such a hotly debated issue. What's worse? Getting food for 30 and giving a 5 dollar tip or just paying 35 outright?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 07/18/19 6:51:20 PM #99:	Question, how exactly does raising minimum wage not pose a problem for businesses and customers? Currently they bring in $x/day and pay out $y/day. They survive because y < x. If x stays the same (not a problem for customers), what is basis of the assumption that y can increase by up to 100% and still remain lower than x, in every case or even in general? --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:924872432] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>Question, how exactly does raising minimum wage not pose a problem for businesses and customers? Currently they bring in $x/day and pay out $y/day. They survive because y < x. If x stays the same (not a problem for customers), what is basis of the assumption that y can increase by up to 100% and still remain lower than x, in every case or even in general?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lincoln002 07/18/19 6:51:44 PM #100:	They need to make minimum wage $15 now not in 2025 and they need to pass a law prohibiting the increase of goods and services by a certain percentage each year. Bam, fixed the economy. --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCMCxJmdDzN09HLxKSmQOUQ - my podcast channel <cite>lincoln002 posted [p:924872444] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote>They need to make minimum wage $15 now not in 2025 and they need to pass a law prohibiting the increase of goods and services by a certain percentage each year. Bam, fixed the economy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 07/18/19 6:53:32 PM #101:	lincoln002 posted... They need to make minimum wage $15 now not in 2025 and they need to pass a law prohibiting the increase of goods and services by a certain percentage each year. Bam, fixed the economy. So what you're saying is our economy needs both a steep price floor on labor and a price ceiling on literally everything else. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:924872513] in House vote... [t:77872603]...</cite> <quote><cite>lincoln002 posted...</cite> <quote>They need to make minimum wage $15 now not in 2025 and they need to pass a law prohibiting the increase of goods and services by a certain percentage each year. Bam, fixed the economy.</quote> So what you're saying is our economy needs both a steep price floor on labor and a price ceiling on literally everything else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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