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Antifar
07/18/19 2:00:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1151913330119864320

Make of this what you will.
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bobbaaay
07/18/19 2:01:19 PM
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"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"
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Balrog0
07/18/19 2:02:34 PM
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interesting
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:03:31 PM
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Won't pass, won't be signed into law, and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

The restaurant she worked at closed due to a $15 minimum wage, and her opponent will point that out at every turn.
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Smashingpmkns
07/18/19 2:03:43 PM
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Yeah I'm sure Cocaine Mitch is going to snuff this one out asap.
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hockeybub89
07/18/19 2:03:49 PM
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bobbaaay posted...
"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"

Theory: A lot more than just minimum wage workers are underpaid.

Perhaps those jobs deserve more money too! It's kind of pathetic how low paid a lot of first responders and healthcare workers are.
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Deadpool_18
07/18/19 2:04:07 PM
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Conservatives are raging nationwide.
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Complete_Idi0t
07/18/19 2:04:39 PM
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that's only $7.25 in today's money
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bobbaaay
07/18/19 2:05:08 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
bobbaaay posted...
"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"

Theory: A lot more than just minimum wage workers are underpaid.

Perhaps those jobs deserve more money too! It's kind of pathetic how low paid a lot of first responders and healthcare workers are.


But they'd rather blame the people making less than them, even though a lot of these people (oops! FORGOT MILITARY, TOO) are doing jobs typically viewed as humanitarian
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Deadpool_18
07/18/19 2:06:24 PM
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bobbaaay posted...
"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"


Repubs have this thing where they want everyone to suffer with them rather than trying to make tomorrow better for others.
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electricbugs2
07/18/19 2:06:27 PM
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Jay Inslee throwing confetti as we speak.
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Damn_Underscore
07/18/19 2:08:36 PM
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That seems a lot for 2025 tbh.

$10.50-$12.50 would be fair for a federal minimum wage by 2025.
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Questionmarktarius
07/18/19 2:09:57 PM
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Complete_Idi0t posted...
that's only $7.25 in today's money

Wait a few years, possibly even 2025.
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voldothegr8
07/18/19 2:13:18 PM
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Dems know this won't pass, it's simply a feeble attempt for election ammo.
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:14:53 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
bobbaaay posted...
"I worked hard to become a paramedic/cop/nursing assistant -- I basically only did it for the money, and now I can't pretend I'm better than anyone else!"

Theory: A lot more than just minimum wage workers are underpaid.

Perhaps those jobs deserve more money too! It's kind of pathetic how low paid a lot of first responders and healthcare workers are.

And where is all that money going to come from?
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CommonJoe
07/18/19 2:17:11 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
And where is all that money going to come from?


Out of the pockets of individuals and corporations that will still be making way more than they should be.
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MrToothHasYou
07/18/19 2:21:29 PM
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For reference, at the current rate of inflation, $15/hour in 2025 is about the equivalent of about $13.50/hour today, and just under $12/hour in 2012 money, which is when the "fight for fifteen" movement started.
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:23:19 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
darkjedilink posted...
And where is all that money going to come from?


Out of the pockets of individuals and corporations that will still be making way more than they should be.

Who do you think a pays the employees at your local McDonald's?
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DevsBro
07/18/19 2:24:56 PM
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$15 /hr in 2025 is probably reasonable.

$15/hr a couple of years ago when it first got popular would have been absurd.
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Bio1590
07/18/19 2:26:58 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

Are you incapable of not posting stupid shit
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DevsBro
07/18/19 2:27:08 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
darkjedilink posted...
And where is all that money going to come from?


Out of the pockets of individuals and corporations that will still be making way more than they should be.

Partially. Partially out of the consumer's pocket.
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 2:29:09 PM
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@darkjedilink posted...
and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

are you seriously this delusional lol
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DevsBro
07/18/19 2:30:03 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
For reference, at the current rate of inflation, $15/hour in 2025 is about the equivalent of about $13.50/hour today, and just under $12/hour in 2012 money, which is when the "fight for fifteen" movement started.

So yeah, a little high but nothing crazy. I did an analysis in 2012 of historical minimum wage and thr corresponding CPI and found that $10/hr would have been about right.
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Questionmarktarius
07/18/19 2:30:17 PM
#25:


DevsBro posted...
CommonJoe posted...
darkjedilink posted...
And where is all that money going to come from?


Out of the pockets of individuals and corporations that will still be making way more than they should be.

Partially. Partially out of the consumer's pocket.

Employment and prices, in the aggregate anyway, are unlikely to be significantly affected, outside of a quick inflation blip.

What will happen, however, is fewer hours per employee, and increased marginalization of anyone with a neck tattoo, criminal history, or crappy (or non-existant) car, and also single parents.
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BLAKUboy
07/18/19 2:31:42 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
are you seriously this delusional lol

Meh, let them make 2020 a referendum on AOC. It will work out just as well for them as making 2018 a referendum on Pelosi did.
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 2:35:42 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Meh, let them make 2020 a referendum on AOC. It will work out just as well for them as making 2018 a referendum on Pelosi did.

I forgot how 2018 was supposed to be the RED WAVE
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:37:56 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Doom_Art posted...
are you seriously this delusional lol

Meh, let them make 2020 a referendum on AOC. It will work out just as well for them as making 2018 a referendum on Pelosi did.

Dem polling shows the Squad is insanely unpopular, even among Dems. Pelosi was never anywhere near as unpopular as they are.
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:39:55 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
@darkjedilink posted...
and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

are you seriously this delusional lol

Read the rest of the post. She ALREADY has challengers in her district. All they have to do is run on AOC's record, and do press stops in front of the restaurant she worked at - the same one that closed explicitly because of a $15 minimum wage.
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REMercsChamp
07/18/19 2:43:06 PM
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And these doctors and engineers think they deserve so much money because "they worked so much harder than everyone else"...they day of reckoning is coming.
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DevsBro
07/18/19 2:44:22 PM
#31:


Doom_Art posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Meh, let them make 2020 a referendum on AOC. It will work out just as well for them as making 2018 a referendum on Pelosi did.

I forgot how 2018 was supposed to be the RED WAVE

The west coast of Florida got hit by a RED TIDE, if that counts.
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 2:47:52 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
She ALREADY has challengers in her district.

?

You say this like having a challenger nearly a year out is some sort of new thing.

And also take a peek at her district.

A democrat has won with over 60% of the vote in every election since 1996

d e l u s i o n a l
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 2:48:44 PM
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Like I know you have an irrational hatred of the scary brown woman, djl. But please try not to let that fear distort reality for you
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Antifar
07/18/19 2:48:48 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
She ALREADY has challengers in her district.

So does Mitch McConnell; it doesn't make him likely to lose.
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darkjedilink
07/18/19 2:53:41 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
She ALREADY has challengers in her district.

?

You say this like having a challenger nearly a year out is some sort of new thing.

And also take a peek at her district.

A democrat has won with over 60% of the vote in every election since 1996

d e l u s i o n a l

How many of those incumbents costed their districts thousands of jobs?
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SilvosForever
07/18/19 2:54:57 PM
#37:


darkjedilink posted...
Won't pass, won't be signed into law, and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

The restaurant she worked at closed due to a $15 minimum wage, and her opponent will point that out at every turn.


She was elected by an 80/17 split IIRC. She's in one of the safest D districts in America.

She's getting re-elected.
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Bio1590
07/18/19 2:58:01 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
d e l u s i o n a l

Careful that counts as Flaming these days.

darkjedilink posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Doom_Art posted...
are you seriously this delusional lol

Meh, let them make 2020 a referendum on AOC. It will work out just as well for them as making 2018 a referendum on Pelosi did.

Dem polling shows the Squad is insanely unpopular, even among Dems. Pelosi was never anywhere near as unpopular as they are.

Are you referring to the same polls Trump was referring to that were "leaked" to Axios that are obviously horseshit
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 2:58:10 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
How many of those incumbents costed their districts thousands of jobs?

Iunno, the previous rep was a fucking dud but they reelected him several times by massive margins.

Besides, the only poll I can find showing her approval dropping is from a PAC called "Stop AOC"

So forgive me if I don't buy into the whole "AOC will lose her district" thing
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Bio1590
07/18/19 2:59:37 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
She ALREADY has challengers in her district.

?

You say this like having a challenger nearly a year out is some sort of new thing.

And also take a peek at her district.

A democrat has won with over 60% of the vote in every election since 1996

d e l u s i o n a l

How many of those incumbents costed their districts thousands of jobs?

I like how you say this as if Trump's batshit insane tariffs aren't ACTUALLY costing Americans jobs all over the country.
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Antifar
07/18/19 3:02:44 PM
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Every member of the Squad has higher national favorability than Nancy Pelosi and House Dems as a whole

https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/1151515359960285189
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Bio1590
07/18/19 3:02:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
darkjedilink posted...
How many of those incumbents costed their districts thousands of jobs?

Iunno, the previous rep was a fucking dud but they reelected him several times by massive margins.

Besides, the only poll I can find showing her approval dropping is from a PAC called "Stop AOC"

So forgive me if I don't buy into the whole "AOC will lose her district" thing

https://www.axios.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-poll-democrats-2020-aeaa3771-f142-4059-b79e-1fed569dfdf9.html

Axios had a poll "leaked" to it whose results came from asking a group of people who largely voted for Trump in the 2016 election about people like AOC and Omar.

This is the same "poll" that Trump has been citing that no one's actually called him out on.
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 3:03:29 PM
#43:


Bio1590 posted...
I like how you say this as if Trump's batshit insane tariffs aren't ACTUALLY costing Americans jobs all over the country.

That's different, though. Trump is a conservative.
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bover_87
07/18/19 3:04:53 PM
#44:


Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.
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lilJoe457
07/18/19 3:06:20 PM
#45:


Goddamn between the Federal reserve artificially creating inflation and these states keep borrowing money they can't pay back plus raising taxes because why not we don't make enough money off of our federal reserve Ponzi scheme, and now this for even more inflation? It's no wonder people in cities can't afford to live their on simple wages anymore. Places like New York borrow so much to have their "luxury" and who pays back all that interest payment? Inflation and more taxes. Ridiculous.
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Doom_Art
07/18/19 3:11:58 PM
#46:


bover_87 posted...
Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.

I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that.
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Bio1590
07/18/19 3:18:41 PM
#47:


Doom_Art posted...
bover_87 posted...
Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.

I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that.

He's basically the prime example as to why the old "Posting false information as fact" definition of Trolling should still be explicitly stated in the ToU and harshly moderated because that's all he does.
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Balrog0
07/18/19 3:19:30 PM
#48:


Doom_Art posted...
bover_87 posted...
Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.

I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that.


no, that is very serious. I saw him say it himself
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Bishop9800
07/18/19 3:19:59 PM
#49:


Bio1590 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
and pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

Are you incapable of not posting stupid shit


Sadly, no he's not

Balrog0 posted...

no, that is very serious. I saw him say it himself


Same here. In fact, tons of people seen him say it.
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Balrog0
07/18/19 3:20:12 PM
#50:


Bio1590 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
bover_87 posted...
Real talk, why do people still reply to djl? He thinks Obama made him lose his wife.

I used to think that was just people being mean, but given some of the wild stuff he's claimed, I can see that.

He's basically the prime example as to why the old "Posting false information as fact" definition of Trolling should still be explicitly stated in the ToU and harshly moderated because that's all he does.


Well, I dunno, because the thing is I genuinely don't think he thinks he's lying. He really thinks these things from what I can tell. Including that his wife left him due to Obamacare.
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Alpha218
07/18/19 3:24:45 PM
#51:


darkjedilink posted...
pretty much guarantees AOC at the very least doesn't get re-elected.

lol sure...
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