Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 229 - Swalwell that ends well

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Jakyl25 posted...

GuessMyUserName posted...

https://twitter.com/DavidUberti/status/1151254338800668677

ahahahahah

This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen

Thats not what a hate crime is
Well I hate it!
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I dont see how satire as a concept survives this election cycle
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Jakyl25 posted...

I dont see how satire as a concept survives this election cycle

I'm sure it hasn't been easy so far, but somehow the Onion has managed, hopefully they will continue to do so because I don't want to live in a world where satire is impossible due to reality.
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Until we actually have stuff like "Bolton claims the country of Iran shot him" literally happening, satire will still be possible, even if not to the extent we would like.
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1151468359227191298

Lol

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/ecuador-response-assange-wikileaks/index.html

Confirmation this was happening aside, it's utterly amazing that this guy is like "yeah it was happening. But we didn't allow it to happen. But we acknowledge that it happened"

kevwaffles posted...

Until we actually have stuff like "Bolton claims the country of Iran shot him" literally happening, satire will still be possible, even if not to the extent we would like.

Due to recent seismic activity, Iran is millimeters closer to the United States than they were last week. We consider this an act of aggression that cannot go unchallenged
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https://twitter.com/cuomoprimetime/status/1151302986934571008?s=21

.@ChrisCuomo: "What would you do if the President said, 'I am a racist'?"
Kris Kobach: "Then I would not defend him."
Cuomo: "Would you still support him as President?
Kobach: "Um. I don't know."
Cuomo: "You have to think about whether or not you would support a racist?"

Fun times we live in
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jesus, 30 seconds in, i'm already overwhelmed by the stupidity in that clip. "trump's comments are totally fine because AOC is from the bronx and that's a crime-infested place!"

the bronx is not a country you fucking idiot.
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Oh it gets worse because he also says that the "if you don't like America, leave" argument isn't problematic.

So it's "the President did not say this, but if he did, that's fine."
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Rand Paul blocks 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

Because of course, he does. The party of projection is at it again. They say democrats hate America, but the truth is THEY hate America.
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Ashethan posted...

Rand Paul blocks 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

Because of course, he does. The party of projection is at it again. They say democrats hate America, but the truth is THEY hate America.

He's a Libertarian, of course he would oppose a government program designed to help people.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Oh it gets worse because he also says that the "if you don't like America, leave" argument isn't problematic.

I think I'd get some dark enjoyment if someone were to point out that the only group to actually leave America en mass because they didn't like it was white southerners.
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Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what
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So we have most certainly crossed the line from where it was just ok to be wink wink nudge nudge racist to where it is now ok to be just plain openly racist. Fun times.

Nrrr posted...

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1151468359227191298

Lol

Gross and totally expected. Impressive that they found a tape, though!
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the only group to actually leave America en mass because they didn't like it was white southerners.
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rand paul isn't a libertarian lol
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what

That depends on what is meant by middle class. If it's 250k like Hillary said the Democrats are screwed.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what

Isn't a large part of M4A that a tax increase on everybody will still cause lower and middle-class people to come out ahead simply by not having to pay insurance premiums?

I mean obviously the bulk of the increases can and should be on the rich as most Democratic candidates have said, but I didn't realize anybody actually thought taxes on the supposed middle class weren't going to be necessary here.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

rand paul isn't a libertarian lol

Part-time libertarian. Not the principled firebrand his father was in Congress.
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Reg posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what

Isn't a large part of M4A that a tax increase on everybody will still cause lower and middle-class people to come out ahead simply by not having to pay insurance premiums?

Yes, that's a primary benefit of single payer. It should also reduce the total cost of healthcare by cutting out the middleman (insurance companies) and their profits.
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Reg posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what

Isn't a large part of M4A that a tax increase on everybody will still cause lower and middle-class people to come out ahead simply by not having to pay insurance premiums?

Thats the idea. But Harris seems to be claiming that she can tax the rich enough to pay for the whole thing, which seems incredibly dubious.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Reg posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Harris has managed to grab the crown for most mathematically impossible healthcare plan by claiming that she wont raise middle class taxes to pay for M4A:

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/1151503179588263937?s=21

Like, what

Isn't a large part of M4A that a tax increase on everybody will still cause lower and middle-class people to come out ahead simply by not having to pay insurance premiums?

Thats the idea. But Harris seems to be claiming that she can tax the rich enough to pay for the whole thing, which seems incredibly dubious.

She's just pandering. She's Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton 2.0.
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Ok so Harris is just dumb and going in on rhetoric and soundbites without understanding the truth of the matter

Lame.

Kamala!
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Alternatively, M4A as in Bernie's plan isn't Harris's end goal, and she's going to "settle" on a public option plan. I think Warren might be doing this too, and is a lot better at it. But both of them have expressed interest in both single payer and public option. But unlike Harris who can just make dumb claims like this and then settle later, Warren will have to put out an actually workable M4A payment plan to maintain her image before she settles.

And for the record, arguing from the left on this is the right "political" move but...man, Bernie is the only candidate who I think is 100% committed to single-payer.
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Having a credible plan is important to getting the bargaining leverage to settle. If your plan is garbage, your bluff will just get called and you end up with nothing.
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Trump right now on the law, "people are saying she married her brother, that's what I heard" on Ilhan Omar
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he's already called her a racist and an anti-semite. might as well accuse her of incest while he's at it.

(meanwhile, "insulting" the president by stating facts is against the law)
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

he's already called her a racist and an anti-semite. might as well accuse her of incest while he's at it.

(meanwhile, "insulting" the president by stating facts is against the law)

It's not against the law. It's just against the rules of making speeches in Congress.

A similar rule exists in courts - insulting the judge is a direct contempt of court, even if the allegations are true.
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ok i was being overdramatic but still >_>
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1151576407623065600

Entirely expected but still disappointing. Would much rather watch the old man try a few dunks and liven things up then watch fucking any of the guys you just know are never polling higher than 1-2% and offer nothing unique in terms of vision.

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1151561125080784896

Cash on hand as of 6/30

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1151633969772937216

Jesus fucking Christ
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jesus fuck Trumpers, their new rally chant is "Send Her Back"
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Grimlyn posted...

jesus fuck Trumpers, their new rally chant is "Send Her Back"

We literally have crossed into open racism.
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red13n posted...

Grimlyn posted...

jesus fuck Trumpers, their new rally chant is "Send Her Back"

We literally have crossed into open racism.

Meanwhile the usual suspects all deny that Trump is a racist.

red13n posted...

Grimlyn posted...

jesus fuck Trumpers, their new rally chant is "Send Her Back"

We literally have crossed into open racism.

oh we were already there

it's just getting worse

Everyone knows he is racist, literally everyone. The word racist has literally no meaning if it doesn't apply to him. Same with the concentration camps. They just deny anything being something they know is seen as 'bad'. But it's always the same formula.

It's not x (but even if it was x that would be a good thing)

I wonder if Trump will openly shift his message from they should leave to we should send them back
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Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if Trump will openly shift his message from they should leave to we should send them back

He's been saying we should send them back since 2015.
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Hey, "racist" is probably the most hurtful and offensive word you could use to describe another human being. Using it against political opponents just because they believe non-white races are inferior is the real evil here.
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Like, basically just assume all right wingers are outright white supremacist fascist nazis until proven otherwise. No matter what they say. Because this is how it is going.

2016: haha liberal snowflakes it's not like he is going to make concentration camps

Later: they aren't concentration camps actually but if they were, the conditions should be worse and they deserve it

Later still: fake news that the children in camps have been trafficked and the adults are being killed, fox news just toured a camp and said it was fine! I would support the death penalty for breaking the law though!

Anything they want to happen that is happening is always not happening but should be, and they feign outrage if anyone brings it up as if it actually is happening. Taking anything republicans say at face value is already losing.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1151649715727065089?s=21

Trump is reciting the details of Warren's ancestry test. He concludes, "The Indians got together and they said, 'We don't want her.'" (Cherokee leaders and others criticized her over the test. There was not a summit of "The Indians.")

The Indians got together

Fucking hell
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I love how bad his brain is

its crazy that anyone can see him speak and say yes this guy should be in charge of things
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Nrrr posted...

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1151561125080784896

Cash on hand as of 6/30

This pleases me.
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https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1151655512620093440?s=21

we live in a legitimate nightmare
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red13n posted...

Grimlyn posted...

jesus fuck Trumpers, their new rally chant is "Send Her Back"

We literally have crossed into open racism.

Nativism =/= racism

Still funny regardless
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Nrrr posted...

Like, basically just assume all right wingers are outright white supremacist fascist nazis until proven otherwise. No matter what they say. Because this is how it is going.

They assume we're all commie baby murdering anti-semitic terrorists (nevermind that I've yet to meet a Republican who knows what Communism is). But Dems simply can't get away with the same things Republicans can. Donald Trump could strangle a puerto rican baby on live television and eat it, and the most we'd get from Susan Collins is "I don't agree with what the President did, but I'm also against the socialists who hate America and probably the jews too so I'll tolerate it." and Moderates would shrug it off and say "but the economy!"

And that's despite the fact that a large number of right wingers are legitimately outright white supremacist fascist nazis.
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