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(+) Yeah! (+)

the effort thing was more of a bonus point for 5tar than a demerit for you
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Sorry I'm at work. 11 days in a row. This is going to turn me into a night owl (on break for just a little bit here).

There's more.

Do you think 5tar is town just because it's a *classix* mislynch type of player?

Usually when bad mislynches happen it's like they do one dumb thing and everyone piles on.

But that is not what happened here.

Scare, SBell, Han, death, and Ulti all had DISTINCT reasons behind their votes on 5tar. It wasn't just a dog pile.

5 different town players called 5tar scum for 5 separate reasons.

And if you throw me in there too then the number is even higher. And if you count corrik the number is even higher.

Corrik are you ready to end this?

Star is still the obvious option. Hes the one person panth didn't spam call town, spent a lot of the middle days skulking in the background.

Panth never called me town either

picking on people in Asian time zones :/
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Oh that reminds me, day 3 pre-gladiate 5tar did nothing but post questions

turbopuns3 posted...

There's more.

Do you think 5tar is town just because it's a *classix* mislynch type of player?

Usually when bad mislynches happen it's like they do one dumb thing and everyone piles on.

But that is not what happened here.

Scare, SBell, Han, death, and Ulti all had DISTINCT reasons behind their votes on 5tar. It wasn't just a dog pile.

5 different town players called 5tar scum for 5 separate reasons.

And if you throw me in there too then the number is even higher. And if you count corrik the number is even higher.

I mean it's more than I just don't read him as scum. It doesn't really have anything to do with him being a "classic mislynch" type
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Just do it red, nobody's mind is changing

@Leafeon13N please

turbopuns3 posted...

Just do it red, nobody's mind is changing

Corrik has no vote down so i cant actually end it on my own.

Leafeon13N posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Just do it red, nobody's mind is changing

Corrik has no vote down so i cant actually end it on my own.

He does he revoted

It is 2 to 2

turbopuns3 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Just do it red, nobody's mind is changing

Corrik has no vote down so i cant actually end it on my own.

He does he revoted

It is 2 to 2

He unvoted again unless I'm crazy

Oh he unvoted again

Why don't you just vote then? I'm confused

The fact that puns has turned up after saying he was going to afk until saturday is a good sign for me. It means he isn't as confident in his mislynch as he originally thought. Until Zero voted him he was nowhere to be seen. I think he was gambling that red would stay on his side and just blindly vote because he thought I was scum before. He was wrong. Red isn't going to just blindly follow puns without work.
Puns plan to mislynch me isn't as straight forward as he thought. He assumed he could beat me in a h2h then take his chances on the last day because i'm the least experienced player here and I was the easiest target. He misjudged the remaining players thinking he could out play me is one thing. Thinking he could outplay me and Corrik and Zero and red is another.
That is exactly why me bussing Panth and trying to single handedly take on the 4 of you is absolutely absurd. There is no way I could do that. Puns thinks he can.

turbopuns3 posted...

Why don't you just vote then? I'm confused

I will before i leave. Honest answer, its simply more fun to hammer.

Puns has gone from anger to begging red for the hammer. He's wrong.
He's scum godfather

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik are you ready to end this?

Star is still the obvious option. Hes the one person panth didn't spam call town, spent a lot of the middle days skulking in the background.

You get this lynch. If ur wrong, all bets are off.
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##vote: 5tar
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Red. Puns is scum.

Post 115 is like an episode of "true confessions of a scumlord"

That perspective is so whack lol

Arrrrgghhhhhhh. I was so close and you just don't see it. Fuck.

Trust no one if it goes to final 3.
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##vote: star

puns is scum. I'm town vanilla

Stop

votals
5tar(3): Puns, (Corrik), (Corrik) (Corrik) Corrik Red
Puns(2): 5tar, MZero

STOP
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5tar was eliminated he was No Way Jose No way Jose tags into the match and dances around! HIS CONGA LINE IS CHEERING they believe he has what it takes to win the match! He looks to give it his all but does he get the elimination and the win for his team? Well the answer is Simple NO WAY JOSE! As Jose is eliminated he asks for a proper send off and his music hits and congas back to the back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtrdr-nxvAA" data-time="

ELIMINATED:
D1: Sbell, Heath Slater Face(Town) 1Use Bullet Proof
N1:Scare, Big Show Face(Town) vanilla
N1: Han, Ali Face(Town) Vanilla
D2: Tom, Randy Orton Heel(Scum) Strongman
N2: Eaed, Elias Heel (Scum) 1 Use Day Double voter
N2: Pez, Kofi Kingston Face(Town) Elite Bodyguard
D3: Ulti, Roman Reigns Face(Town) Vanilla
N3: Death, John Cena Face(Town) Cop
D4: Panth, Dolph Ziggler Heel( Scum) Role blocker
N4: IGCD, Big E Face(Town) Tracker
D5: 5tar, No Way Jose Face (Town) Vanilla
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It is now Night

Day will begin 8pm pdt, 11pm edt on the 14th of June.
Night actions to sultan
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Corrik was eliminated he was Braun strowman Face(Town) Gladiator

Braun is strong Braun is fast but he was eliminated at last some times Strength isnt the answer as Braun was outsmarted and eliminated.
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ELIMINATED:
D1: Sbell, Heath Slater Face(Town) 1Use Bullet Proof
N1:Scare, Big Show Face(Town) vanilla
N1: Han, Ali Face(Town) Vanilla
D2: Tom, Randy Orton Heel(Scum) Strongman
N2: Eaed, Elias Heel (Scum) 1 Use Day Double voter
N2: Pez, Kofi Kingston Face(Town) Elite Bodyguard
D3: Ulti, Roman Reigns Face(Town) Vanilla
N3: Death, John Cena Face(Town) Cop
D4: Panth, Dolph Ziggler Heel( Scum) Role blocker
N4: IGCD, Big E Face(Town) Tracker
D5: 5tar, No Way Jose Face (Town) Vanilla
N5: corrik, Braun Strowman face (Town) Gladiator
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It is now day
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Wow. LOL

I had this big post written up convincing MZero to not vote me and realize corrik was scum

Literally the least expected result here

This makes me think it....has to be MZero???

Just off the cuff that is. Not gonna rush this.

I was MZero's choice and Corrik's next choice.

So it is red after all, huh.

Fuck.

turbopuns3 posted...

This makes me think it....has to be MZero???

Why would I kill Corrik when he's been calling me town all game >_>

Still think it's puns but I'm gonna take my time and reread
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Occam's razor says red. MZero should have no killed if he was scum. Nobody suspected him.

Both MZero and Corrik listed red as their #2.

Red would know, despite me never explicitly stating it, that Corrik was my #2.

But I am MZero's #1 right now.

@MZero11 for the love of god don't rush things here please

MZero11 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

This makes me think it....has to be MZero???

Why would I kill Corrik when he's been calling me town all game >_>

Still think it's puns but I'm gonna take my time and reread

So like.

My next 2 posts

Did you read them

Full disclosure here is my pre-written post I had

(It sounds so stupid now. But ya know.)

Assuming red is dead.

@MZero11, for the love of God, read first.

If red is dead, Corrik assumes you'll rush the decision because you already said you don't suspect him. You've already made it clear he is not in your scum list. Think about this.

5tar aside - Red saw the reasons why I'm town, and the reasons why Corrik is scum. Ulti's plan he laid out was *accurate*, and I fully intend to honor it, but his plan was not all that practical in terms of order. I agreed with his pool of 3 but I figured Panthera was the MOST likely because I could picture him as scum with either of Corrik OR 5tar. I had trouble settling my mind on a Corrik/5tar team. I went with the surest thing first.

I figured if Corrik was scum and if I tried to lynch him first, he would do his dumb logic twists and your/5tar/IGCD's eyes would just gloss over and you'd figure he was probably town because "setup meta", plus Panthera would still have been alive to muddy the waters more. It probably would have just mucked things up even further and honestly made people doubt that Corrik was scum.

So..we nailed Panthera, good job, but I should have left my mind more open afterward. Kicking myself right now. Everything about the Panth/5tar team just felt so good to me that I got careless.

The way to catch scum in end game is not usually by nitty-gritty details like "tone", or "gotchas" that involve like the specific phrasing of 4 words in a sentence from day 2. When it reaches end game, mindset is king.

Look at everybody's demeanor during last game day. Clearly, scum was A-OK with 5tar being lynched, right?

What was your own mindset. You wanted to vote me. Nothing I said or red said changed your mind because to you, I was scum and that was that. You saw scum and didn't deviate.

Same for 5tar.

I did the same. I wanted to vote 5tar because I read 5tar scum and that was that.

Same for red. He entered the day saying 5tar was scum and ended the day hammering 5tar.

Corrik?

Corrik fence-sat all damn day. He was fine lynching either me or 5tar.

One of these things is not like the others.

Before you even try to say "that doesn't seem scummy" - it literally is because no town did it.

Take a step back. Breathe. See the bigger picture. Town Ulti and (assuming he's dead at this point) Town Red recognized Corrik was scum the moment he gladiatored early. They both ALSO died declaring me town. Don't bite on the tunnel-visioned "puns is obvious scum" line that you went into night and started day with because you've been letting yourself think that for several days now!

To reiterate - Corrik gladiatored town when the proven town cop had not even shown up to post yet that day.

He never voted Panthera day 4 until it was well established that nobody else's lynch would be supported.

He was the only player who entertained both sides of the 5tar/Puns day.

He went back and forth calling 5tar scum and town a dozen times. Did the same thing for me. Nobody else had such a flippant view of the game.

There is one scum.

Setup meta be damned. We have a first time host. You have to vote end game based on player mindset. Corrik's mindset is not like yours, not like red's, not like 5tar's, (not like mine). Think about that.

Vote for the guy who used his power in a scummy way and whose behavior was measurably different from everyone you know to be town.

Even if you don't want to trust me, specifically, trust Ulti and Red. They are both strong town who lived to see most of the game. They were ahead of the curve on Corrik as scum. But it's not too late and we can still catch up and win for town.

Clearly that's horrifically wrong lol

But we need to spend our time deliberating dear fucking god do not just vote based on gut in final 3

MZero are you surprised corrik died?

Of course I read them, I just thought the idea of me killing Corrik was silly

and I expected either Corrik or myself to get shot because there was no way we were voting each other, and I think Corrik makes more sense because scum can play the miller paranoia card

So yeah Corrik dying was actually not unexpected at all the way I see it
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Ok that's fair

puns buddy relax I've voted like 3 times this entire game

I'm like the most stingy voter on the board I'm not going to rush a final 3 vote!
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Good to know.

I'm 0-2 lifetime as town in final 3 and I literally just saw my most sure scum flip as town

Oh god what the hell. I was honestly prepared to go after corrik if i was alive.

Again just on a short break wont be home til likely around midnight pst tonight.

Which of you leaves me alive...

Or, fears corrik more than me?

Ugh that is too meta.