Board 8 > WWE Mafia topic 9: Give him the chair!

(+) Yeah! (+)

but i was just about to...ugh.
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I'm up and I've skimmed the posts since I left but I have a few things to take care of before I sit down with the game

red13n posted...

I also wasn't necessarily feeling like I had to press very hard since the day was ulti vs corrik and with the game setup I was feeling pretty safe that I wasn't going to be a target

Very odd thing to say by the way

turbopuns3 posted...

red13n posted...

I also wasn't necessarily feeling like I had to press very hard since the day was ulti vs corrik and with the game setup I was feeling pretty safe that I wasn't going to be a target

Very odd thing to say by the way

huh? Protection(Elite BG at that) had just died and there was a cop and tracker on the board.
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Oh. I thought you were saying target of suspicion

Random thought.

Ironically, if my reasoning that I used to convince MZero to vote corrik is correct (look for scum mindset) then MZero is the scum for not voting 5tar yesterday.

Scum shot IGCD which suggests to me that the last member is not a ninja.

If the last scum is a godfather, that means for it to be MZero he would've had to have to claimed miller as godfather. Doubtful.

If the last scum is not a godfather, what is it? Either a scanner or just a vanilla I guess.

X = the last scum

D1:
SBell lynched, 1-shot BP

N1:
Panthera blocked Corrik
Death scanned Tom guilty
IGCD tracked Scare nowhere
Pez guarded who knows
Tom most likely shot Scare
Eaed or X shot han

D2:
Tom lynched, scum strongman EK

N2:
Panthera blocked death
IGCD tracked corrik nowhere
Pez guarded probably IGCD
eaed shot probably IGCD

D3:
gladiator, Ulti town vanilla

N3:
Panthera blocked IGCD
X shot death

D4:
Panthera lynched, scum roleblocker

N4:
X shot IGCD

D5:
5tarscream lynched, town vanilla

N5:
X shot Corrik

So at first scum tried to block death and shoot (probably) IGCD.

This probably isn't too indicative of which scanner they feared more. Probably just a wifom game to try to dodge protection.

But then after that failed they shot death which could indicate they feared a cop more than a tracker. Or at least, they feared them equally.

If scum does not have a godfather then that could explain MZero claiming miller. They'd think town didn't have a miller if they didn't have a godfather.

Actually wouldn't scum doublevoter to some extent be like a double fuck you to town with us having a miller too? A confirming scum and an Alignment Obscuring Role in town.

Man claiming miller as ninja would be so badass. I wanna do that one day.

Getting lynched with a miller claim on b8 is tough, be there one, two, or even 3 claims on the board it is rare to see one fall.

So not necessarily sure ninja makes that all that badass.

And again, right now the thing giving me the most pause on mzero is why corrik.

red13n posted...

but mzero is the one least likely to kill me which just starts the fucking circular logic train of horror.

Why do you think this

red13n posted...

also i forgot the not before the kill me. you know what i meant.

Oh

MZero11 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

MZero11 posted...

puns buddy relax

This really does not sit well with me

Why not?

Because you were saying you read me as scum since day 2 so I wouldn't expect you to be calling me buddy all of a sudden in the final 3

I wonder if corrik's last line actually baited scum into killing him.

Corrik7 posted...

Trust no one if it goes to final 3.

This?

How does that bait scum. What do you mean

turbopuns3 posted...

How does that bait scum. What do you mean

Its essentially corrik saying hes a wild card if its final 3. All bets are off on his reads.

Basically, if you assume scum goes into final 3 with a plan of some sort, how do you plan around someone you cant depend on.

Doesn't resolve the no kill option but does make corrik kill make a little more sense.

Also mzero's ability to continue to dodge the game even in a final 3 scenario is kind of impressive.

I do still want to hear you explain why you think mzero was the least likely to leave you alive

Leafeon13N posted...

I couldn't g8ve a straight answer here, you are the obvious choice but also a long trap.

And also what do you mean long trap

The simple answer, corrik was the one going hard on you and I'd been expressing doubts about mzero for awhile.

turbopuns3 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I couldn't g8ve a straight answer here, you are the obvious choice but also a long trap.

And also what do you mean long trap

You were nearly a lynch option yesterday. Easily able to be left hanging for today.

Worried that it's red and he doesn't have to really do much to win today if MZero just idles around and defaults to me

I'm going to be sitting at a computer in about an hour or two to look over votals and what not from past days

Ive got similar worry going on right now. Mzero not putting any of his brain up for picking is making this complicated.

Red did you wanna claim btw?

>.>

turbopuns3 posted...

Red did you wanna claim btw?

>.>

I've been insanely curious who was going to ask since I've never actually officially claimed.

(vanilla, rey mysterio, to sate any lingering curiosity).

That's probably mild town points in your favor, btw.

ok, looks good enough I think

Day 1 Final Votals
SBell(4): (Han), (Scare), (Ulti), (Tom), (IGCD), (Puns), (Puns), Han, eaed, Tom, Pez
Red(3): Scare, (Han), Death, (Ulti), 5tar, (Tom)
Tom(2): (Puns), (IGCD), (Pez), Red, (Puns), (Ulti), puns
Scare(2): (Ulti), (Pez), (IGCD), (Puns), (Han), IGCD, (Ulti), (Ulti), Ulti, (Tom)
5tar(2): (Scare), (SBell), (Ulti), (Tom), (IGCD), (IGCD), Panth, SBell
Ulti(1): (eaed), Corrik, (Puns), (5tar), (IGCD)
Puns(0): (Ulti), (Ulti)
IGCD(0): (eaed), (SBell), (Tom)
Death(0): (Corrik), (Panth)
mzero(0): (Tom), (Corrik), (Ulti)
NoLynch(0): (Tom), (Tom), (Pez)
Pez(0): (IGCD)
Han(0): (Corrik), (SBell)
Corrik(0): (Ulti)
Panth(0): (Ulti)
eaed(0): (Ulti)

Day 2 Final Votals
Tom (7), (eaed), (Puns), Death, Corrik, eaed, Pez, 5tar, puns, Panth
Ulti(2), (eaed) IGCD, Mzero, (puns), (eaed), (Pez)
IGCD(1), Ulti
Death (1): Tom
Puns(0), (Ulti), (Corrik)

Day 3 Final Votals
Ulti(4): Corrik, MZero, 5tar, (IGCD), Death
Corrik(1): (Ulti), Red

Day 4 Final Votals
Panth(4): (puns,) 5tar, IGCD, (Corrik), puns, red
5tar(1): Panth

Day 5 Final Votals
5tar(3): Puns, (Corrik), (Corrik) (Corrik) Corrik Red
Puns(2): 5tar, MZero

So MZero:

didn't vote day 1

voted ulti day 2 pretty early on and left it there even after all the Tom stuff

voted ulti day 3 immediately after the gladiate happened

didn't vote day 4 (the only day we've actually caught scum legitimately)

vote me day 5

red:

voted tom day 1 and parked it there

didn't vote day 2 (wut really? explain this red?)

voted corrik day 3 immediately after the gladiate

voted panth day 4 a couple seconds before deadline to hammer

voted 5tar day 5 to hammer

puns:

voted Tom x3, SBell x2, Scare, Ulti on day 1

voted Tom x2, Ulti on day 2

didn't vote day 3 (ulti modkilled himself)

voted Panth x2 day 4

voted 5tar day 5

turbopuns3 posted...

didn't vote day 2 (wut really? explain this red?)

Day was set didn't need to vote.

Corrik7 posted...

You don't think red would defend an ulti he knew was town via red himself being scum? Why not? Just ups his "town" points right? It isn't that red is defending Ulti, it is how he is defending him. I have asked repeatedly for him to point to specific things that make Ulti town. He has avoided it over and over. Just to say he is town. Ultis game resembles his scum games. Yet, red says this game is how he feels he would play as town.

That is not correct by standards. Ulti is more active as scum.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX I take me and Corrik off of your list. Who would you replace us with? Like I said, I am choosing to believe that scum doesn't have a gladiator with a double vote and EK. Who else should be looked at?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Ive already explained my reads. Ive also said I dont think youre scum and youre literally only on the list as a mislynch to work with.

If you and Corrik are town, then its Panthera and MZero. I believe in my reads everywhere else.

checking my eaed and Tom iso walls from the other day to see if I had any notes about mzero/red

here's eaed's mentions of mzero:

topic 2, post 86: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77755918/922676461

snippets that mention MZero:

eaedwards6400 posted...

- All this talk about everyone not knowing about the renamed town/mafia is crazy. Especially considering that Sultan puts the FACE thing in the opening post and then MZero says Heel in his post.

-- Also, I'm not sure who is currently keeping up with WWE but I didn't realize Miz had gone full face and at the same time when I was watching last my wrestlers were a heel. And I'm not a Miller. So I'm kind of confused.

eaedwards6400 posted...

- As much as I want to kill Ulti right now. I may want to follow Corrik's original lead with MZero because I have such like stress from the failures from last game.

here's some stuff from around topic 4 post 109

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm currently leaning on 5tar being Town. I just don't feel great about lynching him right now.

And Miz because he's done nothing. It took Panth to remind me he existed.

If Miz is not Scum, then why did it take until Panth to point him out? If he's not Scum, he's a way easy target.

eaedwards6400 posted...

This is a good point because I don't think his timezone allows him to be around for deadlines right?

htaeD posted...

Han is right though that Mzero has also oddly not been a bigger topic today.

eaedwards6400 posted...

Does that make MZero scum? Like I don't like a Miller claim and I dont like Roman Reigns claim but the players don't feel like scum to me.

and then much later during day 2. topic 6 post 156 after all the hubbub of day 2 had pretty much happened

eaedwards6400 posted...

Corrik, I'm a little concerned that MZero has basically been no where to be found since all of the noisiness of Day 2. Like he's trying to keep his distance from it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Same question for Puns, btw. Frankly I think everyone should answer that. I would hope my flip literally confirms Corrik scum but most of you guys have proven this game that you're useless idiots with no hope of ever playing this game well.

o rly

only time mzero appears in my Tom iso notes is from topic 2 when corrik is asking who he should gladiator

Corrik7 posted...

Aight. Give me a top 3 whoever is here. Almost time to drop the slam.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Sbell Red Mzero
(HM: IGCD, Han if Sbell flips town)

gdi tom

Tom is the first player in the game to mention red's name.

Topic 1 post #104

Tom Bombadil posted...

does red show up these days before d4 or should we press him early

Topic 2 post #390

he says red is toward the top of his scum list for being so quiet but says the fact that red voted for Tom is null

Tom Bombadil posted...

I don't really think pez is scum. Red is towards the top of my list just because he's quiet, but he is about the only person in this game I would expect to follow pez onto me, so THAT part is a nulltell imo.

Tom's read's from Topic 3 post #376

Tom Bombadil posted...

Scum: IGCD, 5tar, Scare, Sbell, red, Miz
Neutral: puns, death, eaed
No clue but gun to my head I'd say town: Corrik, Ulti
Town: pez, Han, Panth
me: Tom

literally so unhelpful.

gdi tom.

Scum: IGCD, 5tar, Scare, Sbell, red, Miz
Neutral: puns, death, eaed
No clue but gun to my head I'd say town: Corrik, Ulti
Town: pez, Han, Panth
me: Tom

There is the one thing I guess

his neutral goes town-town-scum

his town goes town-town-scum

maybe stands to reason his scum would go town-town-town-town-town-scum

?

topic 4 post 207

when red's name comes up as a potential lurker lynch near end of day 1

tom talks out both sides of his mouth about it

Tom Bombadil posted...

on the one hand I agree

on the other hand, it's dang red

Tom eventually switches from IGCD to red after red picks up some votes.

In doing so he doesn't say anything really to acknowledge his vote swing. He just moves it. Basically just that Ulti vouched for IGCD looking scummy as town.

Ulti flipped on him for it right away.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Okay that does it.

Unvote
Vote: Tom

IGCD got a wagon for making bad votes. Here is all of Tom's votes so far:

IGCD(3): Tom
Red(4): Tom
Sbell(2): (Tom)
5tar(0): (Tom)
mzero(0): (Tom)
NoLynch(0): (Tom), (Tom)

Every single one of those votes is an "easy" vote. Even the Red vote, which only came after the game basically gave Tom the green light to do it.

I can't right this second but I need to read the end of day 1 in more detail, not just searching for certain names. Could be revealing about red's alignment.

Tom Bombadil posted...

I was on mzero before it was cool! I wouldn't hate a lynch on him but there are several better ideas floating around I think. Can't speak to whether he'd fake miller but he dang evaporated after that. But maybe we should use d1 on somebody who's actually here to defend themselves.

Tom Bombadil posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Like I don't like a Miller claim..but the players don't feel like scum to me.

I am the exact opposite- the ONLY thing I like about MZero is the claim

turbopuns3 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Any player likely to live a long time is always the best scan target.

Sooooo...me

<_<

Womp womp

HanOfTheNekos posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

So Han wants people to vote for scum and then they don't then Han tells them that it was a trap.and they say it is time to vote for red? What an interesting course of events

is this a slip?

Oh god

eaed literally referred to red as "scum"

turbopuns3 posted...

You don't think red would defend an ulti he knew was town via red himself being scum? Why not? Just ups his "town" points right? It isn't that red is defending Ulti, it is how he is defending him. I have asked repeatedly for him to point to specific things that make Ulti town. He has avoided it over and over. Just to say he is town. Ultis game resembles his scum games. Yet, red says this game is how he feels he would play as town

I've said it many times this game already but this game doesn't resemble Ulti's scum game in the slightest. Scum ulti will twist the dumbest shit in the dumbest ways to fit his own narrative.

Hell just last game he ninjad one of my posts by like 10 to 20 seconds or so, then kept insisting my post had ignored his post when it was an obvious ninja. It was blatantly horrible and he just kept at it.

This game his play was much more straight up. Ulti is all about feeding his own ego and it really comes out with all the dumb things he likes to try to get away with as scum. More serious ulti is town ulti.

turbopuns3 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

So Han wants people to vote for scum and then they don't then Han tells them that it was a trap.and they say it is time to vote for red? What an interesting course of events

is this a slip?

Oh god

I'm pretty sure scum was actually trying to get away with lynching me early. Only reason i think i didn't die d1 is that they had a free shot on what they thought was protection.

Leafeon13N posted...

a free shot on what they thought was protection

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Any idea when we can expect mzero?