Board 8 > ~*Ultimaterializer's Post-Contest Analysis!! Part 2*~

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Nanis23
12/22/18 7:11:44 PM
#201:


I like the new trilogy, but I don't care about Lara herself
She is a pretty bad character, so...
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MetalmindStats
12/22/18 7:12:42 PM
#202:


Ulti_PCA posted...
None of us had any delusions of Metal Man actually winning this match

I sure did! And Lara ultimately did fine for herself - Ammy's just stronger than a lot of people realize.
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 7:31:34 PM
#203:


Division 8 Round 1: (3)Ryu vs (14)Lloyd Irving

(3)Ryu - 19671 [68.44%]
(14)Lloyd Irving - 9073 [31.56%]
Total Votes - 28744
Prediction Percentage - 88.66%

Not gonna lie, I completely forgot Lloyd had even made this bracket until I was actually doing the PCA this year. That's how forgettable some of these round one matches are, and it's sad because Tales of Symphonia basically took this site over for a few months back in the day. Can you believe that was 15 years ago, by the way? God I'm old. That was one of the 10 games I picked after winning Spring 2004. I can't remember them all offhand, but I remember that one game for HaRRicH, a game for Aeon Azuran, Tales of Symphonia, and Chrono Cross. Tales by itself made the whole thing worth it. I love that style of game where you're actually a part of the action instead of just "press attack x47, cure, cast a spell for fun, repeat".

As for Ryu, he is my most hated character in all of Street Fighter but he's winning me over due to -- surprise surprise -- Smash Bros. He finally made it into a game where he doesn't shotospam for 10 minutes at a time, and it's a huge breath of fresh air. The guy is damn satisfying to use, and you feel the weight of his man mode kicks on people. Heaven help you if he lands a perfect shoryuken, too. I feel like this is what he's supposed to be in Street Fighter but he just falls flat when he plays identically in every single game. He even sucks in MvC3 and the other crossover games. But in Smash he really works. Dunno why.

But yeah this match was an expected blowout and told us nothing about whether or not Ryu could beat Sephiroth. Moving on.
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NowItsAngeTime
12/22/18 7:37:06 PM
#204:


You don't like Hadouken -> wait for jump in -> Shoryuken?

Classic zoning
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ZeroSignal620
12/22/18 7:58:02 PM
#205:


Ulti_PCA posted...
Her glory years were back in the 90s


New trilogy's probably the 3 best games in the Tomb Raider franchise (at least 2 of them are; haven't played Shadow yet)
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Logience
12/22/18 8:01:00 PM
#206:


What does shotospam even mean? Ive never played Street Fighter.
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MetalmindStats
12/22/18 8:23:23 PM
#207:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
Ulti_PCA posted...
Her glory years were back in the 90s


New trilogy's probably the 3 best games in the Tomb Raider franchise (at least 2 of them are; haven't played Shadow yet)

At her peak, Lara was arguably the most iconic video game character short of Mario, and had a blockbuster movie among other things. Even if her games have improved, her stature in broader culture hasn't. Admittedly, though, that's not overly relevant for GameFAQs popularity polls.
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Whiskey_Nick
12/22/18 8:36:05 PM
#208:


the new Tomb Raider games are great, but yeah I am not really attached to Lara at all
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NFUN
12/22/18 8:37:31 PM
#209:


Fuck you ulti
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:10:03 PM
#210:


Logience posted...
What does shotospam even mean? Ive never played Street Fighter.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/065/ken.jpg
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Logience
12/22/18 9:13:19 PM
#211:


Ulti_PCA posted...
Logience posted...
What does shotospam even mean? Ive never played Street Fighter.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/065/ken.jpg

So basically, hadoken spam as much as possible, and anytime they get close to you, just shoryuken?
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:21:38 PM
#212:


Yep. That is literally that shotospam means.
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:30:45 PM
#213:


Division 8 Round 1: (6)Commander Shepard vs (11)King K. Rool

(6)Commander Shepard - 14726 [51.23%]
(11)King K. Rool - 14019 [48.77%]
Total Votes - 28745
Prediction Percentage - 64.31%

There are some Mass Effect series spoilers in this writeup. You were warned.

I feel like this match would have been a lot more shocking and a lot more interesting had we not literally just watched the exact same match happen with Dedede vs Ocelot two days prior. Seriously, go open this match and Dedede vs Ocelot on the gamefaqscontests updater charts in separate tabs. It's the exact same match. Just replace Dedede with King K. Rool for the plucky Nintendo underdog slot fueled by Smash hype and Ocelot with Shepard as the non-Nintendo favorite who doubles as an anti-vote magnet. King Crue-- errrrrrr, "King K. Rool" (what a freaking stupid name) opened the match with a shocking but tiny early lead, just like Dedede. He got it up to 150 votes, then Shepard fought back overnight just like Ocelot did.

Around 5 in the morning, just like last time, we got answer. It would have been in doubt had we not seen this just happen, but we all knew Shep was taking the morning vote and winning. He has more innate strength to draw from than Ocelot and one would think Rool is weaker than Dedede. Not exactly debatable here, though it's quite funny that the villain in Donkey Kong games now has his own personal contest choke under his belt. Had he pulled off this upset it would have been such a randomly awesome result.

That said, this match was 100% a referendum on just how badly Electronic Arts fucked up the Mass Effect series and how much gamers loathe that brand now. People like Shepard, but he has the sins of EA crawling on his back and paid for it big time in this poll. Not that he was going to beat Ryu anyway, but needing a morning vote boost to beat Nintendo's 87th tier is such an embarrassment given where the character used to be. We used to joke about how he was actually the best character in that Link/Draven scrap. Now we had people actively rooting for him to lose to a fat alligator with predictable super armor, in a match where almost 100% of the Rool voters were Smash fans or Mass Effect haters. No one voted for Rool because they actually like him from the DK games.

I actually disagree with the anti-Mass Effect crybabies and largely think they're a bunch of spoiled idiots who never should have been catered to in the first place, and EA changing the ending of Mass Effect 3 was a mistake. You don't deal with a spoiled POS by catering to it, be it a spoiled SJW moron, a spoiled alt right moron, an incel, a dog, or anything else. In any dog training manual not written by a positive-only dipshit, you learn "let it cry". Dogs will whine to get what they want. You train them by ignoring them when this happens, and because the types of gamers who whined over the Mass Effect 3 ending are on about the same intelligence level as a dog -- that is, the level of a 2 year old toddler -- they should have been trained in the exact same way. Ignore it until it shuts up. Whiny gamers are not people to cater to. Ever. That's how the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy got worse after EA caved, and it directly led to all of the entitled trash surrounding Andromeda. A bunch of whiny trolls and idiots killed off a fine series, and now we're sitting here watching Commander Shepard struggle to beat a reptile no one cares about in a contest. How did we get here?
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:30:49 PM
#214:


Let's back up a bit. I have a platinum trophy for all four Mass Effect games, so I'm more qualified than probably 95% of people who have played those games to explain why people voted here the way they did. Back in 2007, Mass Effect dropped. It was a sci-fi adventure that most people couldn't make sense of unless they had played Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. It was fun, but it was raw. It was a glitchy Mess, but it gave us some new characters we could sink our teeth into, some great storytelling, and some amazing plot twists. We were shocked that Seth Green was a voice. We were shocked at how damn cool Garrus and Tali and Wrex were. The whole thing was an incredible, albeit flawed.

And then this happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZitlia-u-4" data-time="


Oh. Okay. Well, fuck.

Then whatever feelings that scene drew up in all of us were there for all of Mass Effect 2, and really that's where this all went wrong. Mass Effect 2 was too good, which made it impossible for 3 to satisfy people. *I* was happy with it because I'm not an entitled punk, but I want to point out that 99.9% of that game is on 2's level. Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game, and even if I agreed with people on the ending it shouldn't ruin how good that game actually was. It's like letting a slightly premature ejaculation ruin a good night of sex leading up to it for you. It's like hey moron, you still got a girl to have sex with you. Shut the hell up and enjoy it.

As a random example, these two scenes are legendary for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-tWBE2OEo" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgcaShRyJC8" data-time="


Am I supposed to let a weird ending ruin all that? I admit that we're better off not knowing the motivations of a Lovecraft villain, but am I supposed to let that one ending scene ruin an entire series? Fuck no.

"They have earned the right to try."

Nothing beats bringing Javik on every mission. That guy is such a fucking savage.

And EA never, ever, ever should have caved. It caused the nonsense with Andromeda that killed the series, unless some other developer gets to make it I suppose. I feel like my review does a decent enough job of defending the game: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/168600-mass-effect-andromeda/reviews/164231

Thanks, trolls. No more Mass Effect because you liked the second game too much. And here we are. Here the bleep we are. With Shepard struggling with whatever the King is supposed to be. I get Smash hype and all, but jeez.

Three final points. I am better at Mass Effect 3 multiplayer than you: http://n7hq.masseffect.com/home/overview/?name=ultimaterializer&platform=ps3

To this day I am the #1 Geth Trooper Soldier in the world in that game. I could log on right now and within an hour have people asking me for carries in platinum.

Second, Shepard was indoctrinated. Do not @ me.

Last and most important, FemShep > a comedy voice actor's trashy acting job. People who compare Mark Meer to Jennifer Hale and try pretending Hale is worse are probably the same people who need to be told not to eat Tide Pods. They are proof that opinions can be wrong. Renegade FemShep > whatever garbage you like.

https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/femshep.jpg
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:32:37 PM
#215:


Yeah I just filled two entire 4096 posts on a 1 point match because I still love Mass Effect, dammit.
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igordebraga
12/22/18 9:43:40 PM
#216:


Positive words (and not being spoiled as much, I don't even know why fans were so pissed at the ME3 ending that it got changed) make me interested in playing Mass Effect someday.

And now comes possibly the worst fourpack of the contest. Which to our surprise, was the one that brought in a (hilarious) meltdown.
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Logience
12/22/18 9:48:04 PM
#217:


So Im guessing that youd probably react poorly to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-MKzl1mig" data-time="

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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:49:35 PM
#218:


Logience posted...
So Im guessing that youd probably react poorly to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-MKzl1mig" data-time="

Lasted 5 seconds. I can't listen to a man with hypernerd voice.
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 9:49:53 PM
#219:


igordebraga posted...
Positive words (and not being spoiled as much, I don't even know why fans were so pissed at the ME3 ending that it got changed) make me interested in playing Mass Effect someday.

And now comes possibly the worst fourpack of the contest. Which to our surprise, was the one that brought in a (hilarious) meltdown.

Two meltdowns.
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Logience
12/22/18 9:53:15 PM
#220:


Ulti_PCA posted...
Logience posted...
So Im guessing that youd probably react poorly to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-MKzl1mig" data-time="

Lasted 5 seconds. I can't listen to a man with hypernerd voice.

And I thought I was petty in being unable to stand Joseph Andersons voice.
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 10:35:46 PM
#221:


Division 8 Round 1: (7)Ellie vs (10)KOS-MOS

(7)Ellie - 13094 [45.55%]
(10)KOS-MOS - 15654 [54.45%]
Total Votes - 28748
Prediction Percentage - 41.48%

I thought Ellie could win this match, because The Last of Us is popular and Xenosaga hasn't mattered in ages. I have never, ever been more happy to get a random round one match wrong.

Because who doesn't love a good melty?

Ellie is currently competing in Gamefaq's character tournament.

Posted by u/TheStupidRaptor

"There is this big character tournament going on over at Gamefaqs, and Ellie was popular enough to make it in. If anyone is already aware of this, then you would know that Joel made it in as well, but he lost to Ike from Fire Emblem in the first round. Pretty unfortunate. But it's Ellie's turn now; so if anyone is interested, you can go to their main page and vote for her.

Especially since Ellie is up against Kosmos, and Kosmos is one of the worst, dullest characters ever. How she ended up in a best characters tournament I will never know..... Not that anyone here even knows who she is; the game she's from is extremely obscure and niche after all. Come on, you don't want the amazing, award winning character Ellie to lose to a nobody like Kosmos do you?

Edit: Are you fucking kidding me? Ellie lost to Kosmos?! I guess it's true then, Gamefaqs really is ruled by weeaboos who are biased to Japan, RPGs. and boobs. They just lost any credibility they had. Their "tournament" might as well end now."

"Are you kidding? The poll just started less than an hour ago. Do you really think that Ellie, an award winning character from a highly successful critically acclaimed game that redefined the survival horror genre, would lose to a bland emotionless cardboard cutout of a character like Kosmos from a obscure forgotten game that made zero impact on the gaming industry?

Hell no, Ellie is going to win. I guess all the biased weeaboos got to the poll first. Votes like this fluctuate constantly. Besides, Shulk lost to Sub-Zero. If Shulk, one of the best protagonists to any game ever, LOST, then Kosmos has zero chance of winning. Just you wait, it'll correct itself soon."

"What about YOUR and the entire fandom's hatred of Fiora? Everything you all do to her is just uncalled for. And you all cover it up with the whole "we must circle to make Melia our mary sue" agenda. You should be righting the faults in yourself before you call others out for the same exact thing. If you all won't stop hating fiora, why should I stop hating Kosmos? Don't tell me what's unhealthy.

?????? Last time I checked, Mary Magdalene was a real person who died like 2,000 years ago, and not some fantasy game character. I thought Kosmos was a robot, now you're telling me she's reincarnated? I don't even know why I'm talking to you anymore if you're just going to make shit up. And what do you even care? I thought everyone on the internet was an atheist except me."

"You're so full of shit. Kosmos in no way overshadows any of the blades that originated in this game.

Last time I saw a blade that wasnt Pyra or Mytha on the internet was a rule34 one.

You saw porn of Blades. So? I don't know what you're getting at here.
(in no particular order) Fiora, Elma, Sharla, Vanea, Pyra, Poppi, Meyneth, Lora, Melia, Celica, Mythra, Hope, Newt, Perun, Morag, Mia, Lin, Haze, Praxis, Kasandra, Alexa, Brighid, Nia, Theory, Irina, Tyrea, Dahlia, Crossette, Pandoria, Oka.

There; 30 waifus from Xenoblade Chronicles, and they all hold a million candles to the dumpster fire that is Kosmos. Is your taste fixed yet?"

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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 10:36:53 PM
#222:


"Stop pretending you're the good guy here; I see through all your empty lies."

"Clearly you would need to hear it even more if you think a girl as generic looking and devoid of personality as Kosmos is 'bae'."

"Blimey. All of the useless "I got Kosmos" posts get like 50 upvotes each. But when I start an actual discussion on the lack of worth these posts have and how they're somehow allowed despite being against the rules, I get downvoted? ..................

Does this mean the subreddit's rules mean NOTHING anymore? Are we allowed to upload all the lets plays, porn, and unmarked spoilers we want now too? And even posts that have absolutely nothing to do with Xenoblade Chronicles too? Because I've seen several posts here a few times that had nothing to do with the game.

No one's even allowed to question why rules are being broken? Yeesh; how obnoxious does a group have to be for all this backwards nonsense to happen?"

"You are completely blowing things out of proportion. My hatred of Kosmos is irrelevant here. The whole "I got Kosmos" thing is annoying and against the rules regardless. If any other character happened to be the rarest Blade that people bragged about getting, example.......... Vale or....... Dahlia, or Dagas, it doesn't matter who. Seeing these meaningless posts be made over and over is annoying in it of itself.
And as for the quote unquote "hate campaign"; you're exaggerating. What happened during gamefaq's tournament does not even come close to being able to be called a "hate campaign". All I did was encourage people on The Last Of Us boards to vote for Ellie because she's a good character and deserved to win far more than Kosmos. I'm sure many other users did the same thing for other characters; there's nothing wrong with that. I only got confused when Kosmos was winning even though the odds were completely against her. I asked why; and it was only then I realized it was because gamefaqs as a whole is unfairly biased to RPG's, games made in Japan, Nintendo games, games that are "old, from their childhood", and they favor "girls with boobs" over actual characters with personality. I doubt 90% of the people that voted for her even heard of Xenosaga before, they just voted for the "weeb" option. That coupled with Shulk losing even though he had so much going for him cemented how hypocritical and contrarian gamefaqs truly is and how they lack any credibility. All the people on this subreddit that said gamefaqs is not a good website, they're totally right. If that all looks like a "hate campaign" to you, and that "I'm only pointing this annoying phenomenon out because I hate Kosmos", you have your head way too far up your ass. Maybe YOU'RE the one launching a "hate campaign" against ME. Ever thought of that?"

"Because everyone here is nostalgia blind and can't let go of the fact that their game is dead like a canceled cartoon and has zero hope of ever getting rereleases or sequels. So they made up the "same IP as Xenoblade Chronicles" lie as a way for them to pretend that Xenogears and Xenosaga are still relevant.

I get what you're saying. Xenoblade Chronicles is much more impactful when it is its own thing, and not chained down by some games from the distant past that the general public has forgotten about (and probably never knew about in the first place)."

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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 10:37:49 PM
#223:


"A brand new Nintendo IP in 2010 that unfortunately was not released in the US, but was the subject of a fan campaign of many people begging and trying their hardest to get this game available in the US; for the sole reason that it is just a high quality, memorable game that deserved recognition. It became a highly sought after Wii game as a result, and even got sequels that were just as good and continued it's legacy."

Isn't that inspiring? So when people say people only play Xenoblade Chronicles because 'it's the exact same IP as Xenogears and Xenosaga' when one is a Nintendo IP and the other two are not............. that kind of ruins the whole impact Xenoblade Chronicles had, you know?"

" I just finished Torna The Golden Country. After trying to go back to the main game, I noticed a new section in the events theater; it was an image gallery. I was pleasantly surprised at seeing it, but then disappointed that there were only 5 pictures; there should've been like 30 or something. Anyway, despite the criminally small amount, I did enjoy what I saw....................... until the last one, which was of Kosmos and Telos; and it was a high quality image to, while the others looked more like concept art.

I.............. WHYYYYY?!! This was the very last update, we'll probably never get more than 5 images; so each image slot was valuable. A grand shot of some landscapes, or a picture of all the villains together, lots of great things could've been put there. But, they, WASTED it on these two worthless side characters! And of all the side characters they could've picked, why them? Praxis and Theory would've made a great one, or Wulfric, maybe one with a bunch of nopon npc's, or maybe even a grand picture of ALL the rare Blades together, that would've been so cool. If they had to have a picture of cameo characters, they should've done one of Shulk Fiora and Elma, since they're far more relevant and developed, and a good reward for those who've stuck with Xenoblade chronicles since the start. But............. (sigh) like..... Kosmos is extremely rare and unlikely to be obtained early on, and Telos literally can't be obtained until after you beat the game; so any player would have to be really dedicated to this game, even to the point of continuing to play after the main story is done, to even know about these two. They're not the most well known of the game's side characters, nor would they ever convince anyone to buy this game. But they reserve one of the very limited spaces in the art gallery JUST for them, they put far more effort into their picture than all the others, and they intentionally put it at the bottom, likely being the last one the player sees and what they'll get out of it; it's as if they're very proud of giving Kosmos and Telos special treatment over everyone else.

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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 10:38:20 PM
#224:


Kosmos................. KOOOOOOOOSMOOOOOOOOS!!! I am so fucking sick of seeing her all the time on Xenoblade Chronicles fansites, getting special treatment over the other side characters, and the fandom treating her as if she's part of the main cast. Monolith Soft had their chance to make Kosmos a good character, and they failed. They failed because they relied on people already knowing who she is and didn't think they'd have to try with her personality. Did they honestly expect everyone who bought Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for Switch, a game they intended to bring a lot of newcomers in, would have played an old game on PS2 that was never rereleased in any form? Big mistake if you ask me. This image is like one last middle finger finger to me. It's like "Oh, you beat Torna The Golden Country, and all Xenoblade chronicles games before it. Do you expect some reward for your loyalty and dedication? Well SCREW YOU! You have to have played Xenosaga in order to understand anything. Oh? You think you don't need to? That the two games are not canon to eachother? HATER! LIAR! You don't know what you're talking about! And since we will never rerelease it, that means you're SOL. You will NEVER be a true Xenoblade Chronicles fan!" And the fandom's perception of it isn't much different; pisses me off so much.

Is............ is this the future of Xenoblade Chronicles? Endless Xenosaga pandering to the vocal minority of annoying fans who refuse to let go of a dead game? Xenosaga is not a popular game; the attention it gets on Xenoblade chronicles sites is disproportionate to how popular it actually is; why won't Monolith Soft realize this? All this does is alienate those who are unfamiliar and cause rifts in the fanbase.

(sigh) Why?"


Don't do drugs, kids. The literal director of these games has talked about Xenosaga and Xenoblade being the same IP, but hey StupidRaptor here is going to educate all of us.

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_SecretSquirrel
12/22/18 10:58:04 PM
#225:


I love how, for once, Board 8 and several sub-Reddits all came together in one moment (actually two moments, because he showed up for KOS-MOS's second round victory) to continuously dunk on TheStupidRaptor.
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Ulti_PCA
12/22/18 11:11:58 PM
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As well as several forums on GameFAQs.

Division 8 Round 1: (2)Aqua vs (15)Quiet

(2)Aqua - 18432 [64.11%]
(15)Quiet - 10320 [35.89%]
Total Votes - 28752
Prediction Percentage - 66.22%

Man do I love when the final match of round one is... simple and clean.

No?

...ahem.

There was some debate about this match pre-contest, because Aqua was clearly overseeded and people were banking on an unknown factor like Kingdom Hearts 3 hype. If it isn't Nintendo hype, it's unreliable. And this is Metal Gear Solid, weakened state or no. But that was pre contest. Any and all debate about this match ended very quickly when this abomination was uploaded to the web site.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb10/128.png

Not that Quiet was strong enough to win this match anyway, but good hell. What even is that?

And this match wasn't due to Aqua being strong, either. I've played Birth By Sleep. Outside of Terra, that game is a pile of sewage and Aqua is a huge reason why. We could have avoided the entire laughable Kingdom Hearts plot if she would have just trusted Terra from the jump. We could have avoided it all. All of Tetsuya Nomura's pretentious drivel. All of the bad artwork. All of the belts. All of the EVERYONE IS XEHANORT garbage. Everything. Kingdom Hearts as a series was amazing for the original, pretty good for Chain of Memories, decent for 2, and pure trash afterwards due to Tetsuya Nomura being a complete idiot. The guy sucks at art. Of course he sucks at game design. He is the #1 reason for the current state of Square and I will never forgive him for it. We went from the 90s era of Square, where they could do no wrong, to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l65fmEZHUrM" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO1Nay8VLWk" data-time="


To say I was pumped up for the possibility of KOS-MOS beating this bitch's ass in round 2 was putting it lightly. I like Kingdom Hearts. I really do. But there are parts of these games that are so embarrassing that I'd rather get caught watching porn. I at least have a logical explanation for that. What on earth would be the explanation for stuff like those two songs?

And with that, round one was over. If this were a normal PCA, I'd actually be done the entire thing. For this bracket, I'm not even halfway done. We are past time to reduce the field in these things and make getting into a contest special again. 136 characters in 1v1 matches is just nuts. This can, and should, get cut back down to 64. I could maybe see the logic for 96 and letting the top 8 in each division have a round one bye. But the way things are is just too bloated, and I think it contributes to the low vote totals. The slow burn of a 64 character 1v1 with one match per day and 15 minute updates was fine. Too many characters with too big a field these days.
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MetalmindStats
12/23/18 12:22:59 AM
#227:


It's honestly breathtaking how much worse CBX would have been as a 64-character bracket, even keeping in place the same rules for inclusion in/advancement to the Legends and Losers brackets. Frankly, it's far beyond even what you'd expect based on CBX specifically being sculpted as a 128-entrant bracket and naturally not holding up so well with a contraction.

Just for the heck of it, highly notable snubs that would have resulted (especially notable ones in bold): Knuckles, DK, Chun-Li, KOS-MOS, Red, Charizard, Mewtwo, Fox, Ness, Vincent, Aerith, L-Block, Simon, Pac-Man, Sub-Zero, Ridley (the biggest one, if you get what I mean), and Gordon
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handsomeboy2012
12/23/18 12:26:55 AM
#228:


When TheStupidRaptor first showed up on this board I thought he was just a troll, but with all these walls of text it is actually a serious rant. Either that or he has way too much time on his hands.
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WarThaNemesis2
12/23/18 12:32:03 AM
#229:


What's funny is that for all the mockery of KOS-MOS' fourpack being weak, she'd end up deserving of a spot in the third round.

....At the very least she was the second-strongest character of her division half.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
12/23/18 12:36:21 AM
#230:


Man, I never realized Ulti was a ME3 apologist.

The game was a lot better than people give it credit for, but the ending was moronic and hamfisted in a way that left a sour taste in my mouth. I love the Mass Effect trilogy, but there is literally no defense for how they ruined the entire ending sequence of that game.
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Logience
12/23/18 1:27:54 AM
#231:


Ulti said
All of the EVERYONE IS XEHANORT garbage.

Dude, it's not a spoiler if everybody here already knows about it and anyone who hasn't played up to 3D won't get it.

Anyways, I've got a challenge for everybody: If we lived in a universe where Quiet got an actual fucking full-body picture of her torn-pantyhose stripper outfit and managed to win against Aqua just on sheer strength of Jugs, MGS vote and post-Enix antivote, what kinds of titularly stupid defenses do you think Stupidraptor would make for her getting beaten by KOS-MOS?
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_SecretSquirrel
12/23/18 3:26:57 AM
#233:


handsomeboy2012 posted...
When TheStupidRaptor first showed up on this board I thought he was just a troll, but with all these walls of text it is actually a serious rant. Either that or he has way too much time on his hands.

If he's just trolling, then it's a pretty damn elaborate scheme across numerous Internet communities, including Board 8, the Xenoblade subreddit, the Xenoblade GameFAQs forum, and he also tried rallying Last of Us and Kingdom Hearts subreddits during KOS-MOS's fourpack.

I'd sooner believe it's a real person with a raging hateboner.
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Arti
12/23/18 3:44:59 AM
#234:


At least his username checks out.
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Safer_777
12/23/18 5:51:39 AM
#235:


We will never have another big rally. Nobody cares anymore
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ZeroSignal620
12/23/18 8:48:07 AM
#236:


StupidRaptor made me wish for a mass KOS MOS rally to win the whole thing.
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igordebraga
12/23/18 11:07:12 AM
#237:


Ulti_PCA posted...
igordebraga posted...
Positive words (and not being spoiled as much, I don't even know why fans were so pissed at the ME3 ending that it got changed) make me interested in playing Mass Effect someday.

And now comes possibly the worst fourpack of the contest. Which to our surprise, was the one that brought in a (hilarious) meltdown.

Two meltdowns.


I know that, one for each KOS-MOS win. Though by second, you probably already had him on ignore. (and the topics showcased the best Board 8 had to offer: level-headed responses, mockeries of the whiners, derailing to talk about Canada and porn...)
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WarThaNemesis2
12/23/18 12:59:29 PM
#239:


I don't think we've ever seen a single-user-inspired board vote like KOS-MOS' after that rant.
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Inviso
12/23/18 1:06:43 PM
#240:


StupidRaptor was the best part of this contest, managing to top James Sunderland actually making the field.
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Safer_777
12/23/18 2:19:40 PM
#241:


Why I don't remember these stuff?

Also I posted all my analysis on Board 8 if anyone cares. But man Ulti how do you write so much stuff in all these matches! You are so good!
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Nanis23
12/23/18 5:38:54 PM
#243:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Safer_777 posted...
Why I don't remember these stuff?

Also I posted all my analysis on Board 8 if anyone cares. But man Ulti how do you write so much stuff in all these matches! You are so good!

Passion.

More like hate most of the time...
Not there is something wrong with that
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Logience
12/23/18 7:01:36 PM
#244:


Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Safer_777 posted...
Why I don't remember these stuff?

Also I posted all my analysis on Board 8 if anyone cares. But man Ulti how do you write so much stuff in all these matches! You are so good!

Passion.

More like hate most of the time...
Not there is something wrong with that

Bleh. Hate as a driving force tends to end up fostering problems down the line, and its pretty apparent from Ultis reputation and usual behavior that its happened frequently in the decade and a half these contests have gone on. But if its what gets us a reliably motivated historian, then theres pretty much no choice left to us but to compromise with that attitude.
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ColZach
12/23/18 7:20:56 PM
#246:


All you need to know about ultis taste in games is that he thought andromeda was good

Granted it still helps, on average if he says a game is good you can assume it sucks and if he says its good you can assume its bad. There are some exceptions to this (smash ultimate) but ulti is still useful.
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NowItsAngeTime
12/23/18 7:50:41 PM
#247:


ColZach posted...
All you need to know about ultis taste in games is that he thought andromeda was good

Granted it still helps, on average if he says a game is good you can assume it sucks and if he says its good you can assume its bad. There are some exceptions to this (smash ultimate) but ulti is still useful.


Which alt are you I dont recognize you
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ColZach
12/23/18 8:49:24 PM
#248:


Im literally nobodys alt
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Logience
12/23/18 8:56:40 PM
#249:


ColZach posted...
Im literally nobodys alt

>user since April 2018
Sure you arent.
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Ulti_PCA
12/23/18 9:45:42 PM
#250:


ColZach posted...
All you need to know about ultis taste in games is that he thought andromeda was good

Granted it still helps, on average if he says a game is good you can assume it sucks and if he says its good you can assume its bad. There are some exceptions to this (smash ultimate) but ulti is still useful.

I gave the game an 8 out of 10. This means I acknowledge about 20% of the game having issues. Liking a game does not mean liking 100% of what a game does. I enjoyed a lot of what Andromeda did.
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