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xp1337
12/18/18 5:51:31 PM
#51:


Well, the reason Mueller's team was ready to move to sentencing today in the first place was they stated they believed they were almost done with Flynn's cooperation and the fruits it bore.
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Jakyl25
12/18/18 5:51:51 PM
#52:


xp1337 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?

Just checked in on how this all went down and wow that was a swerve. It almost can't be understated how disastrously that went for Flynn.

Judge point-blank made him answer whether he knew lying to the FBI was a crime (He did) and if he believed he was entrapped (He didn't.) Said he arguably sold his country out. Asked Mueller's prosecutor there if the SCO felt Flynn's actions could be charged under treason and if they considered it. (They were like "uhhhhh that's a serious question so we're hesitating to answer." Before later saying, we don't think so.) Judge stated how he disagreed with how Petraeus had gotten out of felony charges for his case (Flynn's lawyers had brought him up to compare to Flynn)

Flynn took the Judge's offer of a recess and came back to take the Judge's offer to "delay sentencing in the hopes he can point to further cooperation as credit" (Next status hearing is in March)

remember the special counsel's office recommended no jail time and this all happened.


If you see an idiot on Twitter today with in their handle, its to support Flynn. People think hes a hero *facepalm*
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Jakyl25
12/18/18 5:56:25 PM
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Peace___Frog
12/18/18 6:21:37 PM
#54:


xp1337 posted...
remember the special counsel's office recommended no jail time and this all happened.

Yeah. They're going to try to spin it, but the flynn sentencing is an absolute disaster for the talking points that the gop have been spewing for months
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 7:30:24 PM
#55:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/joncampbellgan/status/1075064970268704774?s=21

Repugnant use of social media by this State Senator


It took me a second to realize it was a state senator because I didn't read what you said before I clicked it.
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 7:35:54 PM
#56:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/media/tucker-carlson-fox-news-advertisers/index.html

Think Tuck will cuck and pull an Ingraham style "apology"?
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Jakyl25
12/18/18 10:06:03 PM
#57:


TheRock1525 posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/media/tucker-carlson-fox-news-advertisers/index.html

Think Tuck will cuck and pull an Ingraham style "apology"?


I think he already said some shit like I love immigrants
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Mr Lasastryke
12/19/18 2:37:03 AM
#58:


"now, i LOVE the muslims, but..."
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TheRock1525
12/19/18 7:10:29 AM
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XIII_rocks
12/19/18 8:15:28 AM
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https://twitter.com/BettyMcCollum04/status/1072944465432719360?s=19

I feel like this cannot possibly be as brazen as she is suggesting
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DeepsPraw
12/19/18 8:33:31 AM
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XIII_rocks posted...
https://twitter.com/BettyMcCollum04/status/1072944465432719360?s=19

I feel like this cannot possibly be as brazen as she is suggesting


That shit's already law in 26 states. State workers and any companies doing business with the state are being forced to swear loyalty to Israel.

It's absolutely as insane as it sounds
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Paratroopa1
12/19/18 8:37:31 AM
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XIII_rocks posted...
https://twitter.com/BettyMcCollum04/status/1072944465432719360?s=19

I feel like this cannot possibly be as brazen as she is suggesting

what gives you the impression that politics in 2018 cannot be brazen
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 8:57:01 AM
#63:


DeepsPraw posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
https://twitter.com/BettyMcCollum04/status/1072944465432719360?s=19

I feel like this cannot possibly be as brazen as she is suggesting


That shit's already law in 26 states. State workers and any companies doing business with the state are being forced to swear loyalty to Israel.

It's absolutely as insane as it sounds

Yeah. It should absolutely be unconstitutional.
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Jakyl25
12/19/18 9:12:56 AM
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Its a very touchy thing though because so many people conflate criticizing Israel with anti-Semitism, including anti-semites!
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Jakyl25
12/19/18 9:20:18 AM
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 9:23:04 AM
#66:


https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1075385998647922689

Breaking: Planning is underway for a full and rapid withdrawal of US troops from Syria, decision made by President Trump, a US defense official tells @barbarastarrcnn


Assad and Russia won this, zero doubt.

It's really easy to criticize Israel without being antisemitic about it, as long as one avoids general bigotry! What most people don't realize is that there are more Jews in the US than in Israel, to say nothing of the rest of the world.
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 9:23:16 AM
#67:


Dam u jackell
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Jakyl25
12/19/18 9:25:40 AM
#68:


Peace___Frog posted...

It's really easy to criticize Israel without being antisemitic about it, as long as one avoids general bigotry! What most people don't realize is that there are more Jews in the US than in Israel, to say nothing of the rest of the world.


Oh I totally get that

I mean its touchy more in the sense that if you do properly criticize Israel, a bunch of bigots will leap at the chance to be on your side, so be careful
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 9:37:47 AM
#69:


Yeah I agree with you, it just frustrates me. Bigots will be bigots.
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metroid composite
12/19/18 10:00:58 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...

It's really easy to criticize Israel without being antisemitic about it, as long as one avoids general bigotry! What most people don't realize is that there are more Jews in the US than in Israel, to say nothing of the rest of the world.


Oh I totally get that

I mean its touchy more in the sense that if you do properly criticize Israel, a bunch of bigots will leap at the chance to be on your side, so be careful

I mean, bigots are not exactly known for being pro-Palestinian.

You can easily criticize the Israli government for using snipers to shoot at Palestinian citizens because they came near (but did not touch) a fence. You can easily criticize the Israli government for not allowing palesitinians living in the West Bank to visit other parts of Palestine like the Gaza Strip (or vice versa). Normally a citizen of a country is allowed to travel within their own country, but Palestinians are not treated like citizens; they are treated like prisoners.

See? Not that hard, and I seriously doubt anyone anti-semitic is going to be like "Yeah! you stand up for those Palestinians!" Sure, some Palestinians are Christian, but most of them are Muslim, and Muslims aren't exactly popular among bigots right now.
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The Mana Sword
12/19/18 10:20:39 AM
#71:


congrats on defeating ISIS!
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Corrik
12/19/18 2:43:23 PM
#72:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

Were leaving Syria

Mission accomplished
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 3:23:28 PM
#73:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

Were leaving Syria

Mission accomplished

Keeping toeing that party line. I'm glad you've dropped the pretense of pretending to be a centrist.

Also, I'm glad the irony of that statement is going over your head.
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Umitencho
12/19/18 4:20:41 PM
#74:


Peace___Frog posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

Were leaving Syria

Mission accomplished

Keeping toeing that party line. I'm glad you've dropped the pretense of pretending to be a centrist.

Also, I'm glad the irony of that statement is going over your head.


Here is a throwback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BIW6qyrdu4" data-time="


Oh boy what the US was like in 03...
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Peace___Frog
12/19/18 4:41:23 PM
#75:


Thatsthejoke.jpeg (because that "mission accomplished" didn't mean shit)
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Corrik
12/19/18 4:41:33 PM
#76:


Peace___Frog posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

Were leaving Syria

Mission accomplished

Keeping toeing that party line. I'm glad you've dropped the pretense of pretending to be a centrist.

Also, I'm glad the irony of that statement is going over your head.

I've said I wanted to withdraw from Syria from the start and said I assumed he would do it before the midterms. Isis is toppled. If we are gonna stay til every last one is defeated then we will be there as long as afghanistan.
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xp1337
12/19/18 5:20:28 PM
#77:


From the State Department's briefing on Syria *checks watch* 8 days ago:

https://twitter.com/APDiploWriter/status/1075400194064347136

some quotes (there are more in the thread):

"Nobody working on these issues day to day is complacent. Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished."

"We have obviously learned a lot of lessons in the past, so we know that once the physical space is defeated, we can't just pick up and leave."

State Department cancelled today's scheduled press briefing.
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Corrik
12/19/18 5:42:40 PM
#78:


You would be there forever.
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kevwaffles
12/19/18 6:13:20 PM
#79:


You would be calling people in this topic nuts if they were saying we should leave a week ago.
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Corrik
12/19/18 6:34:55 PM
#80:


kevwaffles posted...
You would be calling people in this topic nuts if they were saying we should leave a week ago.

Huh
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LordoftheMorons
12/19/18 7:38:50 PM
#81:


A senior administration official on Trumps surprise Syria tweet:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1075543725818961920?s=21
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Peace___Frog
12/20/18 8:17:21 AM
#82:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075726666574544896

....Russia, Iran, Syria & many others are not happy about the U.S. leaving, despite what the Fake News says, because now they will have to fight ISIS and others, who they hate, without us. I am building by far the most powerful military in the world. ISIS hits us they are doomed!


But wait, I thought ISIS was destroyed and the mission was accomplished? Which party talking point will corrik stand by? Find out next time, on PCT!
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Peace___Frog
12/20/18 8:18:45 AM
#83:


Two other things:
He sounds like a little boy playing with toy soldiers.
The Russian embassy and state tv explicitly celebrated the exit of American troops.
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kevwaffles
12/20/18 8:48:49 AM
#84:


That moment when your take is so dumb that even the buffoon who unilaterally made the decision doesn't come close to the same explanation.
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Reg
12/20/18 4:26:43 PM
#85:


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/russian-agents-sought-us-treasury-records-on-clinton-backers

jfc

The headline does not do this story justice, and it would be a big fucking deal even if it did.
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SgtSphynx
12/20/18 4:35:36 PM
#86:


What the fuck
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Reg
12/20/18 4:42:47 PM
#87:


SgtSphynx posted...
What the fuck

My thoughts exactly
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LordoftheMorons
12/20/18 5:37:15 PM
#88:


Trump is refusing to sign the CR to keep the government open, has now has apparently fired Mattis, and is possibly leaving Afghanistan in addition to Syria

What the fuck is even happening over there
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Suprak the Stud
12/20/18 5:43:56 PM
#89:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Trump is refusing to sign the CR to keep the government open, has now has apparently fired Mattis, and is possibly leaving Afghanistan in addition to Syria

What the fuck is even happening over there


Welp there goes the only member in the entire administration that made me feel like it wasn't a complete clown show.
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Reg
12/20/18 5:47:14 PM
#90:


Today would be the single wildest day in basically any previous administration except maybe Bush with 9/11 between the items detailed last five posts.
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LordoftheMorons
12/20/18 5:49:48 PM
#91:


Seeing some more coverage it seems like Mattis may have resigned in protest over Trump's policy (presumably Syria being the breaking point), though that's probably just about as bad a reflection on Trump as Trump firing him would be
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LapisLazuli
12/20/18 5:59:17 PM
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Peace___Frog
12/20/18 6:02:25 PM
#93:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Trump is refusing to sign the CR to keep the government open, has now has apparently fired Mattis, and is possibly leaving Afghanistan in addition to Syria

What the fuck is even happening over there

He's in full tantrum mode, doing his signature strategy of getting us talking about a million different things before something really damaging to him goes public.

All this in addition to the DOW being down from where it was when the tax bill was signed... his fuck ups are seriously impressive in such a sad way.
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Corrik
12/20/18 6:03:29 PM
#94:


Bout time we left afghanistan. Hope he does it.
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LordoftheMorons
12/20/18 6:03:55 PM
#95:


Glad I was too lazy to put more money into stocks earlier...!
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Corrik
12/20/18 6:04:33 PM
#96:


Suprak the Stud posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Trump is refusing to sign the CR to keep the government open, has now has apparently fired Mattis, and is possibly leaving Afghanistan in addition to Syria

What the fuck is even happening over there


Welp there goes the only member in the entire administration that made me feel like it wasn't a complete clown show.

Yeah I am not happy about Mattis leaving either, but if differences in opinions were too much then so be it.
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Dancedreamer
12/20/18 6:16:34 PM
#97:


Can it be Devos turn to be fired? Please. It's what I want for Christmas.
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Not_an_Owl
12/20/18 6:21:08 PM
#98:


Dancedreamer posted...
Can it be Devos turn to be fired? Please. It's what I want for Christmas.

Honestly, I would be thrilled to see any member of the cabinet go if I wasn't so completely certain that their replacements would be even more despicable.
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Suprak the Stud
12/20/18 6:22:42 PM
#99:


Mattis wasn't fired, he resigned:

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1075884490361397248
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Reg
12/20/18 6:23:11 PM
#100:


It's actually super difficult to get worse than a literal fucking dominionist as Secretary of Education

Granted, I'm dead certain Trump and co would try, but I have my doubts that they'd manage to succeed.
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