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Darmik 12/11/18 8:08:56 PM #101:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware? Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition They had politics, leading female characters and gay relationships in their games long before EA bought them. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913969183] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware?</quote> Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition</quote> They had politics, leading female characters and gay relationships in their games long before EA bought them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:11:22 PM #102:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware? Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition They had politics, leading female characters and gay relationships in their games long before EA bought them. They did, and there was nothing wrong with it. It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. I say this as someone who is literally in a LGBT relationship right now. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969309] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware?</quote> Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition</quote> They had politics, leading female characters and gay relationships in their games long before EA bought them.</quote> They did, and there was nothing wrong with it. It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. I say this as someone who is literally in a LGBT relationship right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:13:07 PM #103:	DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913969402] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/11/18 8:13:54 PM #104:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Don't you remember how the final boss of mass effect 3 was the patriarchy? And how the reapers had a 45 minute powerpoint presentation about pronouns and inclusivity in the workplace? --- Please <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:913969435] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Don't you remember how the final boss of mass effect 3 was the patriarchy? And how the reapers had a 45 minute powerpoint presentation about pronouns and inclusivity in the workplace?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_F14 12/11/18 8:14:15 PM #105:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. --- http://conniptions.gives/ <cite>Delta_F14 posted [p:913969453] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Andromeda for certain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:14:54 PM #106:	Delta_F14 posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. When? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913969492] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Andromeda for certain.</quote> When?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 12/11/18 8:14:58 PM #107:	refmon posted... What the hell ever happened to escapism? It's still there. Go play Mario or any other children's game if you want to be completely free from political or challenging messages. Media for adults tend to have things to say. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:913969496] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>What the hell ever happened to escapism?</quote> It's still there. Go play Mario or any other children's game if you want to be completely free from political or challenging messages. Media for adults tend to have things to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:15:39 PM #108:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969531] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 12/11/18 8:16:29 PM #109:	Delta_F14 posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. Only one NPC had that problem. I'd say one of Andromeda flaws is that it wasn't challenging enough. It was a very safe, simple black and white game. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:913969586] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Andromeda for certain.</quote> Only one NPC had that problem. I'd say one of Andromeda flaws is that it wasn't challenging enough. It was a very safe, simple black and white game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:16:31 PM #110:	Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. When? -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?" --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969589] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Andromeda for certain.</quote> When?</quote> -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 12/11/18 8:16:40 PM #111:	I feel like from the way he's wording it, it's going to be heavy handed political commentary as a core aspect of the story. In which case I have to say I couldn't possibly be less interested in this game now. Well, that and Bioware is kinda hot stinky garbage lately. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:913969597] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>I feel like from the way he's wording it, it's going to be heavy handed political commentary as a core aspect of the story. In which case I have to say I couldn't possibly be less interested in this game now. Well, that and Bioware is kinda hot stinky garbage lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 12/11/18 8:17:32 PM #112:	No problem thats what I expect from Dragon Age. But what I want is some quality control. <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:913969637] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>No problem thats what I expect from Dragon Age. But what I want is some quality control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:17:35 PM #113:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins. Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue. DarkRoast posted... -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?" That was an NPC who wasn't involved in the narrative at all. Who got patched and modified shortly after release. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913969639] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins.</quote> Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue. <cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote> -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?"</quote> That was an NPC who wasn't involved in the narrative at all. Who got patched and modified shortly after release.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 12/11/18 8:17:38 PM #114:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. When? -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?" Boy, that random NPC you don't even have to talk to sure did ruin the narrative flow of the game --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:913969640] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote> It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. </quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. </quote> Andromeda for certain. </quote> When?</quote> -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?"</quote> Boy, that random NPC you don't even have to talk to sure did ruin the narrative flow of the game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 12/11/18 8:17:40 PM #115:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins. Incorrect. Steve Cortez was very natural. If he had a wife, nobody would have batted an eye. Samantha Traynor was also well done. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:913969645] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins.</quote> Incorrect. Steve Cortez was very natural. If he had a wife, nobody would have batted an eye. Samantha Traynor was also well done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 12/11/18 8:17:49 PM #116:	Inquisition already celebrated diversity quite well, there were all kinds of LGBT, there was MM, FF, trans, interspecies shit, pansexuality, asexuality, the whole fucking gambit. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:913969655] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Inquisition already celebrated diversity quite well, there were all kinds of LGBT, there was MM, FF, trans, interspecies shit, pansexuality, asexuality, the whole fucking gambit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/11/18 8:17:52 PM #117:	will there be corn fields though? <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913969657] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>will there be corn fields though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 12/11/18 8:18:26 PM #118:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Much of Inquisition had these instances and just an overall unappealing "trendy millennial morals" vibe. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:913969687] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> Much of Inquisition had these instances and just an overall unappealing "trendy millennial morals" vibe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 8:18:37 PM #119:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware? Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition Great with a terrible ending, bad, and great. What exactly are you trying to say? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913969699] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware?</quote> Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition</quote> Great with a terrible ending, bad, and great. What exactly are you trying to say?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:18:50 PM #120:	Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins. Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue. I'm talking about Kaiden --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969715] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins.</quote> Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue.</quote> I'm talking about Kaiden</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:23:35 PM #121:	And don't tell me anything about Kaiden is natural --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969942] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>And don't tell me anything about Kaiden is natural</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 12/11/18 8:24:17 PM #122:	DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins. Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue. I'm talking about Kaiden Kaiden was a gay relationship, not the gay relationship. One so-and-so portrayal doesn't cancel out the rest of the good ones. Kaidan romance also played out the same way as Femshep anyway so you can say "the straight relationship was absolutely embarrassing" and it would make just as much sense. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:913969978] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game.</quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this.</quote> The gay relationship in ME3 was absolutely embarrassing. It was the most unnatural relationship in games since Duke Nukem and the Holsom Twins.</quote> Why? I don't recall Steve being an issue.</quote> I'm talking about Kaiden</quote> Kaiden was a gay relationship, not the gay relationship. One so-and-so portrayal doesn't cancel out the rest of the good ones. Kaidan romance also played out the same way as Femshep anyway so you can say "the straight relationship was absolutely embarrassing" and it would make just as much sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:24:57 PM #123:	AmericaTheBrave posted... Kaidan romance also played out the same way as Femshep anyway so you can say "the straight relationship was absolutely embarrassing" and it would make just as much sense. That's what I was going to say. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913970013] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Kaidan romance also played out the same way as Femshep anyway so you can say "the straight relationship was absolutely embarrassing" and it would make just as much sense.</quote> That's what I was going to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:27:00 PM #124:	Kaiden is the least fuckable person in the galaxy --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913970100] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Kaiden is the least fuckable person in the galaxy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/11/18 8:29:37 PM #125:	Kaiden is the "who posted" of the ME squaddies. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:913970215] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Kaiden is the "who posted" of the ME squaddies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:33:13 PM #126:	Ashley was pretty lame in ME3 as well. Step down from ME1. Kinda seemed like Liara got most of the attention tbh. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913970373] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Ashley was pretty lame in ME3 as well. Step down from ME1. Kinda seemed like Liara got most of the attention tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:33:55 PM #127:	Darmik posted... Ashley was pretty lame in ME3 as well. Step down from ME1. Kinda seemed like Liara got most of the attention tbh. Ashley is just a shitty racist. Maybe alt-righties would be into her. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913970408] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Ashley was pretty lame in ME3 as well. Step down from ME1. Kinda seemed like Liara got most of the attention tbh.</quote> Ashley is just a shitty racist. Maybe alt-righties would be into her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/11/18 8:34:55 PM #128:	All the human squadmates except Jack were lame. Edit: Zaeed is cool too --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:913970457] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>All the human squadmates except Jack were lame. Edit: Zaeed is cool too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:35:57 PM #129:	Ashley got some pretty good character development in ME1 but all of that was tossed out the window for the sequels and she was just shitty. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913970505] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Ashley got some pretty good character development in ME1 but all of that was tossed out the window for the sequels and she was just shitty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/11/18 8:37:25 PM #131:	UnholyMudcrab posted... DarkRoast posted... Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... Darmik posted... DarkRoast posted... It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. Andromeda for certain. When? -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?" Boy, that random NPC you don't even have to talk to sure did ruin the narrative flow of the game Why are you bringing facts into this? We have to blame games we don't like on SJWs. We can't blame other things because..... stuff. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:913970564] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote> It's when they cheaply ham-fist it into games and make it so obviously interjected that it's less "progressive" and more "virtue signalling" that it becomes a problem and ruins the narrative flow of the game. </quote> When was the narrative flow in any Bioware game ruined by this. </quote> Andromeda for certain. </quote> When?</quote> -random discussion about terraforming- "By the way did you know I'm trans?"</quote> Boy, that random NPC you don't even have to talk to sure did ruin the narrative flow of the game</quote> Why are you bringing facts into this? We have to blame games we don't like on SJWs. We can't blame other things because..... stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:37:36 PM #132:	Darmik posted... Ashley got some pretty good character development in ME1 but all of that was tossed out the window for the sequels and she was just shitty. I'd regret keeping her alive on Vermire, but frankly the thought of Kaiden sticking around for two more games was nauseating. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913970578] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Ashley got some pretty good character development in ME1 but all of that was tossed out the window for the sequels and she was just shitty.</quote> I'd regret keeping her alive on Vermire, but frankly the thought of Kaiden sticking around for two more games was nauseating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/11/18 8:40:50 PM #133:	It seems like all Bioware games have been political and a huge focus has been on inclusion/diversity. Dunno why people are complaining now. Its hardly the reason why the majority of their games are fucking trash. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:913970741] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>It seems like all Bioware games have been political and a huge focus has been on inclusion/diversity. Dunno why people are complaining now. Its hardly the reason why the majority of their games are fucking trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:50:20 PM #134:	There are some unfortunate development woes that do explain why both Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda had issues. Both of them had to deal with using Frostbite which just wasn't designed for RPG's at the time. They basically had to design most of the shit from the ground up. This is why Dragon Age Inquisition had weirdly designed cities and a lot of open spaces for example. They were working with the strengths of that engine. There was a lot of really cool stuff they had in mind for the game. If you watch the early gameplay videos there's a lot of moral choices you could make that would shape what happens within specific areas. But they were told by EA that the game needed to be crossgen. A lot of it had to be cut out and changed to that board thing instead. The game was hobbled as a result. Mass Effect Andromeda at one point was an extremely ambitious game. It was originally supposed to be like No Man's Sky. With hundreds of planets. But it just wasn't working out. They spent a lot of their time constantly scaling back what they wanted to do. Development was just a constant issue that they never recovered from. It was a fresh team who wanted to prove that they could do something different and it didn't work out. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913971229] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>There are some unfortunate development woes that do explain why both Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda had issues. Both of them had to deal with using Frostbite which just wasn't designed for RPG's at the time. They basically had to design most of the shit from the ground up. This is why Dragon Age Inquisition had weirdly designed cities and a lot of open spaces for example. They were working with the strengths of that engine. There was a lot of really cool stuff they had in mind for the game. If you watch the early gameplay videos there's a lot of moral choices you could make that would shape what happens within specific areas. But they were told by EA that the game needed to be crossgen. A lot of it had to be cut out and changed to that board thing instead. The game was hobbled as a result. Mass Effect Andromeda at one point was an extremely ambitious game. It was originally supposed to be like No Man's Sky. With hundreds of planets. But it just wasn't working out. They spent a lot of their time constantly scaling back what they wanted to do. Development was just a constant issue that they never recovered from. It was a fresh team who wanted to prove that they could do something different and it didn't work out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_F14 12/11/18 8:50:26 PM #135:	A good example of a Gay character being done right is with Arcade and Veronica in Fallout New Vegas, both feel natural, and certainly not just shoved in order to fulfill an agenda. --- http://conniptions.gives/ <cite>Delta_F14 posted [p:913971235] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>A good example of a Gay character being done right is with Arcade and Veronica in Fallout New Vegas, both feel natural, and certainly not just shoved in order to fulfill an agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/11/18 8:56:18 PM #136:	Delta_F14 posted... A good example of a Gay character being done right is with Arcade and Veronica in Fallout New Vegas, both feel natural, and certainly not just shoved in order to fulfill an agenda. Or Dorian from Bioware's games. Kaiden being a shitty romance is just his character being meh in general really, I think. Discounting the D team working on Andromeda, Bioware have generally done pretty well with their romances (subject to taste, of course) --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913971524] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>A good example of a Gay character being done right is with Arcade and Veronica in Fallout New Vegas, both feel natural, and certainly not just shoved in order to fulfill an agenda.</quote> Or Dorian from Bioware's games. Kaiden being a shitty romance is just his character being meh in general really, I think. Discounting the D team working on Andromeda, Bioware have generally done pretty well with their romances (subject to taste, of course)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 12/11/18 8:58:05 PM #137:	Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:913971636] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 8:58:52 PM #138:	Shotgunnova posted... Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4. We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913971676] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4.</quote> We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 12/11/18 8:59:45 PM #139:	dave_is_slick posted... Shotgunnova posted... Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4. We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back. We need him in battle through. =( --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:913971716] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4.</quote> We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back.</quote>We need him in battle through. =(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 9:00:01 PM #140:	tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913971733] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 9:01:11 PM #141:	Shotgunnova posted... dave_is_slick posted... Shotgunnova posted... Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4. We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back. We need him in battle through. =( True. I feel like we were robbed in Inquisition by having Cullen only as an advisor. He would've been a great party member by that point considering everything he's been through. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913971799] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Dorian got the best dialogue in DA:Inky, I swear. Hopefully they find a way to bring him back for DA4.</quote> We'll be in the Imperium. There's no way he's not coming back.</quote>We need him in battle through. =(</quote> True. I feel like we were robbed in Inquisition by having Cullen only as an advisor. He would've been a great party member by that point considering everything he's been through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/11/18 9:02:18 PM #142:	Darmik posted... tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie. He's probably my favourite character period, or right in the top of the list. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913971871] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie.</quote> He's probably my favourite character period, or right in the top of the list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 9:03:48 PM #143:	Funkydog posted... Darmik posted... tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie. He's probably my favourite character period, or right in the top of the list. In order: Varric Iron Bull Dorian Solas --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913971964] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>tbh I'd say Dorian is my favorite gay character out of any video game. But to be fair his only competition I can think of is Chloe or Ellie.</quote> He's probably my favourite character period, or right in the top of the list.</quote> In order: Varric Iron Bull Dorian Solas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 12/11/18 9:10:25 PM #144:	Honestly, who cares. Dragon Age hasnt had a good game since Origins and BioWare is a shell of their former selves. --- https://imgur.com/3Iqe55A <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:913972331] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, who cares. Dragon Age hasnt had a good game since Origins and BioWare is a shell of their former selves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 12/11/18 9:13:24 PM #145:	The_Scarecrow posted... Dragon Age hasnt had a good game since Origins --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:913972474] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Scarecrow posted...</cite> <quote>Dragon Age hasnt had a good game since Origins</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moth366 12/11/18 9:30:57 PM #146:	PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. PleaseClap posted... Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do! Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see. --- I think this topic has reached it's peak and will be closed since I already got my answer thanks to MOTH - Camarokamara <cite>Moth366 posted [p:913973375] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote>1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art.</quote> <cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do!</quote></quote> Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/11/18 9:37:53 PM #147:	Moth366 posted... PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. PleaseClap posted... Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do! Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see. what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"? --- Please <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:913973746] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote>1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art.</quote> <cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do!</quote></quote> Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see.</quote> what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 9:40:20 PM #148:	PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. PleaseClap posted... Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do! Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see. what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"? Who's alt are you. This trolling style is very familiar. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913973870] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote>1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art.</quote> <cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do!</quote></quote> Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see.</quote> what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"?</quote> Who's alt are you. This trolling style is very familiar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 12/11/18 9:44:01 PM #149:	AmericaTheBrave posted... refmon posted... What the hell ever happened to escapism? It's still there. Go play Mario or any other children's game if you want to be completely free from political or challenging messages. Media for adults tend to have things to say. Basic bitch SJWism is the easiest political message for a corporation to put forward. What challenge? --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:913974107] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>What the hell ever happened to escapism?</quote> It's still there. Go play Mario or any other children's game if you want to be completely free from political or challenging messages. Media for adults tend to have things to say.</quote> Basic bitch SJWism is the easiest political message for a corporation to put forward. What challenge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moth366 12/11/18 9:44:03 PM #150:	dave_is_slick posted... PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... PleaseClap posted... Moth366 posted... 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. PleaseClap posted... Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do! Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see. what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"? Who's alt are you. This trolling style is very familiar. I don't think it's trolling, it just seems like ignorance. The conflation of politics and morality is a common thing. --- I think this topic has reached it's peak and will be closed since I already got my answer thanks to MOTH - Camarokamara <cite>Moth366 posted [p:913974110] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote>1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art.</quote> <cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do!</quote></quote> Guys. Don't do this. Don't willfully misrepresent your opponents. If he hadn't omitted the VERY NEXT WORD of my post you'd see all the context you need to see.</quote> what, of "I can't believe that someone would think that their political views are right. How dare they promote them"?</quote> Who's alt are you. This trolling style is very familiar.</quote> I don't think it's trolling, it just seems like ignorance. The conflation of politics and morality is a common thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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