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Funkydog 12/11/18 6:03:23 PM #51:	Vyrulisse posted... Youngster_Joey_ posted... The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time=" This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4. You both know (And I am certain you actually do) that the D team that worked on that game has no involvement with the current one, yes? Inquisition did pretty great with their gay character (Dorian was fabulous) and Trans character (or at least many trans people greatly appreciated how he was done) --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913963365] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="</quote> This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.</quote> You both know (And I am certain you actually do) that the D team that worked on that game has no involvement with the current one, yes? Inquisition did pretty great with their gay character (Dorian was fabulous) and Trans character (or at least many trans people greatly appreciated how he was done)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 12/11/18 6:04:46 PM #52:	Hopefully we can at least make the PC's pretty instead of butt ugly. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgtc.com/naDxbk4.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:913963417] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully we can at least make the PC's pretty instead of butt ugly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/11/18 6:05:05 PM #53:	MC_BatCommander posted... holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS Wasn't that she was Trans. It was that her character and dialogue is awful. "What made you want to come out here?" "I USED TO BE A MAN!" "Erm... ok." It's kinda dumb. They didn't write a character, they wrote a "Trans" and then just shoved them in. dave_is_slick posted... UnfairRepresent posted... dave_is_slick posted... hockeybub89 posted... "We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it" What a news story Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried. He was asked about it.... So ignore it. It has always been about this so why answer? Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it? Prestoff posted... Has anyone played Dragon Age yet? Its always been like that. For real --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:913963431] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote> holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS</quote> Wasn't that she was Trans. It was that her character and dialogue is awful. "What made you want to come out here?" "I USED TO BE A MAN!" "Erm... ok." It's kinda dumb. They didn't write a character, they wrote a "Trans" and then just shoved them in. <cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it" What a news story</quote> Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried.</quote> He was asked about it....</quote> So ignore it. It has always been about this so why answer?</quote> Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it? <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Has anyone played Dragon Age yet? Its always been like that.</quote> For real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/11/18 6:05:09 PM #54:	Vyrulisse posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Vyrulisse posted... Youngster_Joey_ posted... The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time=" This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4. holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS You're either really dense or just trolling. The point isn't who the NPC is it's the dialogue being offensive and only serves to make the writers feel good about themselves. What makes the dialogue offensive? Sounds like you're a little too sensitive to me. If you wanna argue it's dumb to have a rando NPC tell you they're trans that's fine, but offensive? lmao get real --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:913963435] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="</quote> This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.</quote> holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS</quote> You're either really dense or just trolling. The point isn't who the NPC is it's the dialogue being offensive and only serves to make the writers feel good about themselves.</quote> What makes the dialogue offensive? Sounds like you're a little too sensitive to me. If you wanna argue it's dumb to have a rando NPC tell you they're trans that's fine, but offensive? lmao get real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/11/18 6:06:28 PM #55:	Funkydog posted... Inquisition did pretty great with their gay character (Dorian was fabulous) Pity their female ones were poop. I wish Cassandra was Bi. Sera and Josie are lame Lesbian options. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:913963485] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote> Inquisition did pretty great with their gay character (Dorian was fabulous)</quote> Pity their female ones were poop. I wish Cassandra was Bi. Sera and Josie are lame Lesbian options.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/11/18 6:06:51 PM #56:	UnfairRepresent posted... MC_BatCommander posted... holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS Wasn't that she was Trans. It was that her character and dialogue is awful. "What made you want to come out here?" "I USED TO BE A MAN!" "Erm... ok." It's kinda dumb. They didn't write a character, they wrote a "Trans" and then just shoved them in. dave_is_slick posted... UnfairRepresent posted... dave_is_slick posted... hockeybub89 posted... "We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it" What a news story Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried. He was asked about it.... So ignore it. It has always been about this so why answer? Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it? Prestoff posted... Has anyone played Dragon Age yet? Its always been like that. For real It's almost like the problem was everything in Andromada was piss poor, the writing, the game play, the graphics. That it was just a bad game and not due to any agenda. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:913963501] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote> holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS</quote> Wasn't that she was Trans. It was that her character and dialogue is awful. "What made you want to come out here?" "I USED TO BE A MAN!" "Erm... ok." It's kinda dumb. They didn't write a character, they wrote a "Trans" and then just shoved them in. <cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it" What a news story</quote> Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried.</quote> He was asked about it....</quote> So ignore it. It has always been about this so why answer?</quote> Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it? <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Has anyone played Dragon Age yet? Its always been like that.</quote> For real</quote> It's almost like the problem was everything in Andromada was piss poor, the writing, the game play, the graphics. That it was just a bad game and not due to any agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 6:06:55 PM #57:	I fail to see how Mass Effect Andromeda or Dragon Age Inqusition was ruined because of being SJW. That wasn't their biggest issue at all. Having one or two scenes with awkward dialogue doesn't impact the other 60-100 hours of those games. Crying over a guy writing a post on his twitter account because he bothered to reply to trolls is ridiculous. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913963506] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>I fail to see how Mass Effect Andromeda or Dragon Age Inqusition was ruined because of being SJW. That wasn't their biggest issue at all. Having one or two scenes with awkward dialogue doesn't impact the other 60-100 hours of those games. Crying over a guy writing a post on his twitter account because he bothered to reply to trolls is ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 6:07:32 PM #58:	UnfairRepresent posted... Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it? The answer is literally in what you quoted. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913963537] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Because you were asked about it..... Why ignore it?</quote> The answer is literally in what you quoted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 12/11/18 6:08:55 PM #59:	Also "SJW" was the least of Inquisition's issues. It was just boring to me and that's the worst sin of all to me in a game. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhM1-4i9SkA <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:913963595] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Also "SJW" was the least of Inquisition's issues. It was just boring to me and that's the worst sin of all to me in a game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Youngster_Joey_ 12/11/18 6:08:56 PM #60:	You'd have to ask someone who is trans why it was offensive. I just found it really stupid and forced. "Why are you here." "Cause I used to be a man. Being here just feels right." Like...what? Maybe I'm just not getting it, but it sounds like for some reason her being a woman in the Milky Way Galaxy was somehow not accepted. Which makes no fucking sense in a world that far in the future. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it, and it literally was just a dumb way to point out that she's trans for the sake of being trans. Which isn't overly offensive, it's just...lazy. Andromeda was lazy all around, but it was especially lazy in the "diversity" department. It is just one of those things that makes you roll your eyes because it feels like they were just trying to check off a box instead of creating a good to decent character. <cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted [p:913963596] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>You'd have to ask someone who is trans why it was offensive. I just found it really stupid and forced. "Why are you here." "Cause I used to be a man. Being here just feels right." Like...what? Maybe I'm just not getting it, but it sounds like for some reason her being a woman in the Milky Way Galaxy was somehow not accepted. Which makes no fucking sense in a world that far in the future. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it, and it literally was just a dumb way to point out that she's trans for the sake of being trans. Which isn't overly offensive, it's just...lazy. Andromeda was lazy all around, but it was especially lazy in the "diversity" department. It is just one of those things that makes you roll your eyes because it feels like they were just trying to check off a box instead of creating a good to decent character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 6:09:03 PM #61:	The issue with the trans character in Andromeda was because of how she talked about herself didn't feel genuine or real. Even to trans the way she talked about her transition was off and insensitive. It was removed. It was also a 60 second conversation in a game that was over 60 hours long. It most certainly wasn't a huge issue with the game. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913963603] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>The issue with the trans character in Andromeda was because of how she talked about herself didn't feel genuine or real. Even to trans the way she talked about her transition was off and insensitive. It was removed. It was also a 60 second conversation in a game that was over 60 hours long. It most certainly wasn't a huge issue with the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToPoPO 12/11/18 6:09:54 PM #62:	Vyrulisse posted... Youngster_Joey_ posted... The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time=" This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4. Geez, those animations are fucking horrible. <cite>ToPoPO posted [p:913963644] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted. Guess we'll be getting more of this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="</quote> This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.</quote> Geez, those animations are fucking horrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 12/11/18 6:12:14 PM #64:	If you guys want a Bioware game that isn't political that's probably gonna be Anthem. So there you go. Dragon Age and Mass Effect have always had a major focus on diversity and politics. Both of them are about uniting to fight a greater enemy. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913963744] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>If you guys want a Bioware game that isn't political that's probably gonna be Anthem. So there you go. Dragon Age and Mass Effect have always had a major focus on diversity and politics. Both of them are about uniting to fight a greater enemy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecSkorpio 12/11/18 6:12:24 PM #65:	The reason people make a stink about SJWism in Andromeda is because certain developers were really fucking vocal about social justice and shit on Twitter during the games production. Then the game came out, and it was complete shit all around. So people subconsciously associate the developers (or a developer? I forget how many there were, I just remember that one dude drinking white dude tears was a big deal) being vocal about social justice with how shitty the game was. --- https://i.imgtc.com/obYpb0u.jpg <cite>AlecSkorpio posted [p:913963755] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>The reason people make a stink about SJWism in Andromeda is because certain developers were really fucking vocal about social justice and shit on Twitter during the games production. Then the game came out, and it was complete shit all around. So people subconsciously associate the developers (or a developer? I forget how many there were, I just remember that one dude drinking white dude tears was a big deal) being vocal about social justice with how shitty the game was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 12/11/18 6:13:29 PM #66:	This won't bode well if they care more about soapboxing than the actual gameplay and story. (It's a large part of why ME: Andromeda was so fucking awful.) The damnedest thing though is that previous Mass Effects and Dragon Ages had themes of politics and diversity too, but they were actually woven into the overall experience, not smashed in haphazardly while expecting the game to succeed on that feature alone. Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:913963805] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>This won't bode well if they care more about soapboxing than the actual gameplay and story. (It's a large part of why ME: Andromeda was so fucking awful.) The damnedest thing though is that previous Mass Effects and Dragon Ages had themes of politics and diversity too, but they were actually woven into the overall experience, not smashed in haphazardly while expecting the game to succeed on that feature alone. Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/11/18 6:15:18 PM #67:	UnfairRepresent posted... Pity their female ones were poop. I wish Cassandra was Bi. Cassandra secretly ~~gushing over Varric's trashnovels was amazing and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.~~. Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913963901] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Pity their female ones were poop. I wish Cassandra was Bi. </quote> Cassandra secretly gushing over Varric's trashnovels was amazing and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.. Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 6:16:49 PM #68:	Mass Effect Andromeda was probably the least political entry of the franchise so far ironically enough. It had nothing new to say. It was just a lame retread of ME1 with a whopping one new alien race to interact with and another one to constantly fight. It was a game about colonization and it didn't even attempt to tackle that concept. This was because it was from the dude who wrote Halo 4. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913963972] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Mass Effect Andromeda was probably the least political entry of the franchise so far ironically enough. It had nothing new to say. It was just a lame retread of ME1 with a whopping one new alien race to interact with and another one to constantly fight. It was a game about colonization and it didn't even attempt to tackle that concept. This was because it was from the dude who wrote Halo 4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Youngster_Joey_ 12/11/18 6:17:16 PM #69:	Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too? <cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted [p:913964000] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 12/11/18 6:17:57 PM #70:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too? No it was Siege of Dragonspear and had the same issue. They removed it. Very tone deaf even though I enjoy their work. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhM1-4i9SkA <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:913964030] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too?</quote> No it was Siege of Dragonspear and had the same issue. They removed it. Very tone deaf even though I enjoy their work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/11/18 6:20:46 PM #71:	Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it. The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.) --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:913964172] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it.</quote> The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/11/18 6:22:52 PM #72:	Funkydog posted... Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her. I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. ~~Or that she never got naked. >_>~~. I thought it was adorable tho. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:913964269] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her.</quote> I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. Or that she never got naked. >_>. I thought it was adorable tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/11/18 6:24:40 PM #73:	Ivynn posted... Funkydog posted... Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her. I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. ~~Or that she never got naked. >_>~~. I thought it was adorable tho. I mean, it definitely was a bit fairytale. But I enjoyed it for that reason personally. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913964342] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her.</quote> I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. Or that she never got naked. >_>. I thought it was adorable tho.</quote> I mean, it definitely was a bit fairytale. But I enjoyed it for that reason personally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/11/18 6:24:52 PM #74:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too? to be fair, Bioware didn't do that. they outsourced the remasters to a company called Beamdog. all new content in the remasters is Beamdog's fault. <cite>Zikten posted [p:913964350] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there a really shitty trans character added to a Balders Gate remaster too?</quote> to be fair, Bioware didn't do that. they outsourced the remasters to a company called Beamdog. all new content in the remasters is Beamdog's fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 6:30:51 PM #75:	Ivynn posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it. The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.) No they aren't. Mac Walters is still there. I'm pretty sure a few others are too. I remember Drew Karpyshyn came back to work on Anthem and left again. It's hard looking it up because there are a shitload of writers for these games. There's a bunch who focus on specific characters. Mike Laidlaw did leave Dragon Age 4 a year ago when it went on the backburner. DA4 has been in development for that long they're probably still going to be using a lot of stuff from before then. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913964628] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it.</quote> The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.)</quote> No they aren't. Mac Walters is still there. I'm pretty sure a few others are too. I remember Drew Karpyshyn came back to work on Anthem and left again. It's hard looking it up because there are a shitload of writers for these games. There's a bunch who focus on specific characters. Mike Laidlaw did leave Dragon Age 4 a year ago when it went on the backburner. DA4 has been in development for that long they're probably still going to be using a lot of stuff from before then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/11/18 6:30:57 PM #76:	Ivynn posted... Funkydog posted... Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her. I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. ~~Or that she never got naked. >_>~~. I thought it was adorable tho. It was boring. I can't speak for Cullen, but with everyone else, at the least you can say it wasn't boring. Josie was my first choice and I regretted it. Yes partially because there was no "payoff" and mostly because it was dull. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:913964632] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her.</quote> I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. Or that she never got naked. >_>. I thought it was adorable tho.</quote> It was boring. I can't speak for Cullen, but with everyone else, at the least you can say it wasn't boring. Josie was my first choice and I regretted it. Yes partially because there was no "payoff" and mostly because it was dull.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/11/18 6:34:52 PM #77:	Darmik posted... Ivynn posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it. The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.) No they aren't. Mac Walters is still there. I'm pretty sure a few others are too. I remember Drew Karpyshyn came back to work on Anthem and left again. It's hard looking it up because there are a shitload of writers for these games. There's a bunch who focus on specific characters. Mike Laidlaw did leave Dragon Age 4 a year ago when it went on the backburner. DA4 has been in development for that long they're probably still going to be using a lot of stuff from before then. Yeah, I was thinking about people like Mark Laidlaw, David Gaider and many of the OG Mass Effect people. I know Casey Hudson is still around at least. But he was in charge of ME3 and is controversial. I actually didn't know Mac Walters was still around. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:913964819] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Just do it right Bioware, I know you're capable of it.</quote> The writers behind the previous Dragon Ages and Mass Effects are all gone now so I can't really believe that with confidence anymore. Andromeda was a mess (and being "SJW" was the least of its troubles.)</quote> No they aren't. Mac Walters is still there. I'm pretty sure a few others are too. I remember Drew Karpyshyn came back to work on Anthem and left again. It's hard looking it up because there are a shitload of writers for these games. There's a bunch who focus on specific characters. Mike Laidlaw did leave Dragon Age 4 a year ago when it went on the backburner. DA4 has been in development for that long they're probably still going to be using a lot of stuff from before then.</quote> Yeah, I was thinking about people like Mark Laidlaw, David Gaider and many of the OG Mass Effect people. I know Casey Hudson is still around at least. But he was in charge of ME3 and is controversial. I actually didn't know Mac Walters was still around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/11/18 6:36:05 PM #78:	dave_is_slick posted... Ivynn posted... Funkydog posted... Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her. I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. ~~Or that she never got naked. >_>~~. I thought it was adorable tho. It was boring. I can't speak for Cullen, but with everyone else, at the least you can say it wasn't boring. Josie was my first choice and I regretted it. Yes partially because there was no "payoff" and mostly because it was dull. Reason why there was no nudity and little payoff was because her romance angle was a late inclusion. She was never designed as a Romancable character and they threw it in during development. It kinda shows. She has less dialogue and less scenes than everyone else. Even Cullen --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:913964860] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Josie was pretty great as well I felt, especially romancing her.</quote> I heard people disliked it because it felt too "Disney" or fairytale. Or that she never got naked. >_>. I thought it was adorable tho.</quote> It was boring. I can't speak for Cullen, but with everyone else, at the least you can say it wasn't boring. Josie was my first choice and I regretted it. Yes partially because there was no "payoff" and mostly because it was dull.</quote> Reason why there was no nudity and little payoff was because her romance angle was a late inclusion. She was never designed as a Romancable character and they threw it in during development. It kinda shows. She has less dialogue and less scenes than everyone else. Even Cullen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moth366 12/11/18 7:08:27 PM #79:	Ultimately, though all art is politics. Its just a hell of a lot easier to ignore it when those politics match up with yours: I wear my heart, and beliefs, on my sleeve. And I always will. I want to spend mine making it a better and more caring place. Okay so 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. Fine. But 2. He morally grandstands upon his politics. "I can't help but be political, my politics are for goodness and against evil." ergo he is consciously saying "I consider it a moral good to spread my political ideology." He sounds like a person who can't see any good in his political opponents. I prefer such people not be the influencers. :\| --- I think this topic has reached it's peak and will be closed since I already got my answer thanks to MOTH - Camarokamara <cite>Moth366 posted [p:913966391] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><quote>Ultimately, though all art is politics. Its just a hell of a lot easier to ignore it when those politics match up with yours: I wear my heart, and beliefs, on my sleeve. And I always will.</quote> <quote>I want to spend mine making it a better and more caring place.</quote> Okay so 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. Fine. But 2. He morally grandstands upon his politics. "I can't help but be political, my politics are for goodness and against evil." ergo he is consciously saying "I consider it a moral good to spread my political ideology." He sounds like a person who can't see any good in his political opponents. I prefer such people not be the influencers. :\|</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 12/11/18 7:09:23 PM #80:	If its in within the scope of the game in the world existed then thats fine. Otherwise its just shitty pandering --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:913966427] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>If its in within the scope of the game in the world existed then thats fine. Otherwise its just shitty pandering</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/11/18 7:13:32 PM #81:	Moth366 posted... 1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art. PleaseClap posted... Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do! --- Please <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:913966631] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moth366 posted...</cite> <quote>1. He admits that he is bringing politics into his art.</quote> <cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society That's not what art should do!</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 12/11/18 7:14:19 PM #82:	>bioware in 2018 come on people --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:913966672] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>>bioware in 2018 come on people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 12/11/18 7:17:24 PM #83:	Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:913966851] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 7:18:00 PM #84:	Bioware has never had an issue making their villains sympathetic or understandable. Kai Leng and that boring ass Andromeda villain I don't remember being the only exceptions. Their problem is generally that your player character is some perfect person loved by everyone. DA2 and Inquisition were the first games that tried to change that a bit. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913966877] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Bioware has never had an issue making their villains sympathetic or understandable. Kai Leng and that boring ass Andromeda villain I don't remember being the only exceptions. Their problem is generally that your player character is some perfect person loved by everyone. DA2 and Inquisition were the first games that tried to change that a bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 12/11/18 7:26:59 PM #85:	Anti-SJWs fabricating more outrage? Color me surprised --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:913967303] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Anti-SJWs fabricating more outrage? Color me surprised</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 7:39:14 PM #86:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? He left Bioware over a year ago. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913967825] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> He left Bioware over a year ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/11/18 7:40:34 PM #87:	Darmik posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? He left Bioware over a year ago. also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:913967888] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> He left Bioware over a year ago.</quote> also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 12/11/18 7:49:53 PM #89:	Suchomimus posted... https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/12/dragon-age-dread-wolf-rises-will-be-political-and-celebrate-diversity-says-narrative-director/73122/ Ultimately, though all art is politics. No, it's not. That was a bullshit statement. His art is political, and that's Ok. There is a lot of art that is just meant to provoke a primal emotion or to encourage its audience to ask existential questions. Some don't really have any message at all or its message is known only to the artist. This guy is letting his agenda color his view of other peoples' works. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:913968306] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/12/dragon-age-dread-wolf-rises-will-be-political-and-celebrate-diversity-says-narrative-director/73122/ <quote> Ultimately, though all art is politics. </quote> </quote> No, it's not. That was a bullshit statement. His art is political, and that's Ok. There is a lot of art that is just meant to provoke a primal emotion or to encourage its audience to ask existential questions. Some don't really have any message at all or its message is known only to the artist. This guy is letting his agenda color his view of other peoples' works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 12/11/18 7:53:07 PM #90:	MC_BatCommander posted... Darmik posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? He left Bioware over a year ago. also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist He was like the lead writer or something <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:913968434] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> He left Bioware over a year ago.</quote> also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist</quote> He was like the lead writer or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 7:54:24 PM #91:	Intention isn't the only thing that can make something political. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913968488] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Intention isn't the only thing that can make something political.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 7:56:03 PM #92:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Darmik posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? He left Bioware over a year ago. also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist He was like the lead writer or something The lead writer was Chris Schlerf. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913968567] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> He left Bioware over a year ago.</quote> also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist</quote> He was like the lead writer or something</quote> The lead writer was Chris Schlerf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_F14 12/11/18 7:57:38 PM #93:	After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. --- http://conniptions.gives/ <cite>Delta_F14 posted [p:913968635] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 12/11/18 7:57:55 PM #94:	Darmik posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Darmik posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team? He left Bioware over a year ago. also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist He was like the lead writer or something The lead writer was Chris Schlerf. Well I don't know what to search <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:913968649] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Is that one openly racist guy who hates white people still in a senior position on the team?</quote> He left Bioware over a year ago.</quote> also wasn't he a nobody in the company, I don't recall any important devs being openly racist</quote> He was like the lead writer or something</quote> The lead writer was Chris Schlerf.</quote> Well I don't know what to search</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/11/18 8:00:17 PM #95:	Bioware hate seems to be one big game of telephone at times. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:913968750] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>Bioware hate seems to be one big game of telephone at times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 12/11/18 8:02:21 PM #96:	What the hell ever happened to escapism? --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:913968831] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>What the hell ever happened to escapism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/11/18 8:03:02 PM #97:	Delta_F14 posted... After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:913968871] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
crennigo 12/11/18 8:03:34 PM #98:	Bananana posted... Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage Yeah like Inquisition, oh wait, that was garbage. <cite>crennigo posted [p:913968897] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bananana posted...</cite> <quote>Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage</quote> Yeah like Inquisition, oh wait, that was garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:05:48 PM #99:	EA must really hate money lately --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969005] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote>EA must really hate money lately</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/11/18 8:07:19 PM #100:	Darmik posted... Delta_F14 posted... After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer. Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware? Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913969091] in Dragon Age... [t:77292204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>After BFV, I'm not surprised that EA is pushing their agenda onto the rest of the Devs they own. Very sad to see. It's likely that Titanfall 3 is going to be shit, Titanfall 2 was very good, in both single and multiplayer.</quote> Do people who say this shit even know a god damn thing about Bioware?</quote> Games BioWare put out after being fully integrated with EA: ME3, ME Andromeda, DA Inquisition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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