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Suchomimus
12/11/18 12:51:08 PM
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https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/12/dragon-age-dread-wolf-rises-will-be-political-and-celebrate-diversity-says-narrative-director/73122/

Following the reveal at this years Game Awards, gamers began assiduously looking up new info for Dragon Age: The Dread Wolf Rises. Some gamers ended up stumbling coming across the Twitter profiles of the developers working on the game while in search of new info, but they didnt exactly like what they saw.

Well, on December 7th, 2018 Epler made a series of tweets responding to people who took one look at his profile and decided that the upcoming BioWare title, Dragon Age: The Dread Wolf Rises, could be compromised with sociopolitical agitprop.

Epler explained that the politics in his profile (consisting of gender pronouns and that hes an open Leftist) is just a small extract from the much larger sociopolitical amalgam that constitutes the stories and characters in previous Dragon Age games and the upcoming Dragon Age game, saying

A few folks telling me, after seeing my twitter profile, not to bring my politics into the game. Dragon Age has always been about belonging about realizing that family is more than blood and about celebrating our diversity and differences. It will remain so.

Dragon Age is about hope, about how love and friendship are forces for good and about how, in the end, what we have is each other.

Ultimately, though all art is politics. Its just a hell of a lot easier to ignore it when those politics match up with yours: I wear my heart, and beliefs, on my sleeve. And I always will.

We have finite time on this world. I want to spend mine making it a better and more caring place.


So fucking woke and preachy lmao. Why is this guy trying to prove so hard that he's a good person? This will fail. People are not going to support this. It's gonna be bad. Developers don't learn. They always do this and it always fails and they always blame the fans for being bigoted instead of accepting their business model is flawed.

Hello Andromeda 2.0!
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Fony
12/11/18 12:51:53 PM
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Lmao...
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PleaseClap
12/11/18 12:53:44 PM
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Oh no, l hate it when art gets political and comments on society

That's not what art should do!

-shamelessly stolen from someone on the politics board
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brotrrwinner
12/11/18 12:54:13 PM
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I guess EA hates money now
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Bananana
12/11/18 12:54:14 PM
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Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage
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Zerocide
12/11/18 12:55:01 PM
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/Grabs popcorn
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AmericaTheBrave
12/11/18 12:55:49 PM
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Like all the other Dragon Age games?
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Suchomimus
12/11/18 12:56:05 PM
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Bananana posted...
Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage


It hasn't been great since Origins honestly. The identity politics is just the cherry on top of this dumpster fire.
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hockeybub89
12/11/18 12:56:08 PM
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"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story
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AlephZero
12/11/18 12:56:54 PM
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"if you don't like it don't buy it"
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AmericaTheBrave
12/11/18 12:57:44 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Bananana posted...
Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage


It hasn't been great since Origins honestly. The identity politics is just the cherry on top of this dumpster fire.


Origins was all about gathering different groups and races and setting aside political differences to fight the darkspawn.
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SpreadManning
12/11/18 12:59:04 PM
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yuck
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DarthWendy
12/11/18 12:59:18 PM
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Great, we were in dire need of more Ubisoft-tier virtue-signalling feel-good claptrap.
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hockeybub89
12/11/18 12:59:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story

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andel
12/11/18 1:01:25 PM
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if it's a good game like other dragon age games i will buy it.
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PhazonReborn
12/11/18 1:02:58 PM
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It's not like I was going to play this shit ass game anyway so I dont care
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Suchomimus
12/11/18 1:03:17 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Suchomimus posted...
Bananana posted...
Dragon Age 4 will be great, and nerdy introverted gamers who hate inclusion will fake outrage


It hasn't been great since Origins honestly. The identity politics is just the cherry on top of this dumpster fire.


Origins was all about gathering different groups and races and setting aside political differences to fight the darkspawn.


You can be political and celebrate diversity as an organic part of the storytelling (see Mass Effect 2, for example) or you can be political and celebrate diversity hamfistedly and so wide of the mark that you even end up having to apologize to the LGBQT community (see Mass Effect Andromeda and Dragon Age Inquisition). It all depends on your writers' talent, or lack thereof.


Adding on that, going about how "political" and "diverse" your work is before it's even out is a rather crass thing to do in my opinion.


If you want to convey a political message through your work by all means go ahead but when you're spoiling it before it's even out it feels like you're just trying to cash on it or using it as an excuse.


You know its a red flag when they feel the need to highlight that over say, gameplay or fun.

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Suchomimus
12/11/18 1:03:55 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story
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Balnazarr
12/11/18 1:04:10 PM
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Mass Effect Andromeda wasn't political in the least. But, that's hardly why the game sucked. The graphics were bad, the game was bad, the story was bad. If they make it like ME:A then DA is truly dead.
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:04:10 PM
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I can already see the shitstorm when DA4 board open up like Andromeda.
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Blue_Inigo
12/11/18 1:04:48 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Like all the other Dragon Age games?

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PleaseClap
12/11/18 1:05:28 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story

Dude, we get it. Youre mad that theres going to be gay people in your video game. Chill.
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SuperShake666
12/11/18 1:06:09 PM
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As long as it's good and doesn't end up as Dragon Age Andromeda I don't care.
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AmericaTheBrave
12/11/18 1:06:22 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story


Wasn't he asked? That's what I got from the article.
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HiddenLurker
12/11/18 1:06:54 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story

To be fair people were asking him.
Although he should have just ignored them instead of handing them some free ammo.
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:07:05 PM
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SuperShake666 posted...
As long as it's good and doesn't end up as Dragon Age Andromeda I don't care.

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Suchomimus
12/11/18 1:08:14 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Suchomimus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story

Dude, we get it. Youre mad that theres going to be gay people in your video game. Chill.


I'm just waiting for someone to explain why they felt the need to highlight their wokeness before anything else in this game? Why have some developers begun to treat their games like soapboxes for their politics instead of yknow...actual fun being the focal point?
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hockeybub89
12/11/18 1:08:26 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story


Why feel the need to boldly announce it though lol

Why focus on this instead of the gameplay or story

People dug up his profile and started ranting about how the SJWs are going to ruin Dragon Age. All he did was respond and say "We're going to handle the story and characters the way we always have." This guy is the narrative director after all. This isn't an official EA game reveal or something, just a guy talking about the part of the game he works on.
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Freddie_Mercury
12/11/18 1:12:31 PM
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Funkydog
12/11/18 5:49:32 PM
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Are you really complaining about something the Dragon Age and Mass Effect games have always been about?

Like, have you not even played the damn games?
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Vyrulisse
12/11/18 5:50:49 PM
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The problem is that Bioware no longer has the talent to do it in a way that feels natural. It's just hamfisted and insulting nowadays.
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creativerealms
12/11/18 5:51:34 PM
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So same as the other three?
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UnfairRepresent
12/11/18 5:52:57 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Like all the other Dragon Age games?

Yeah this.

Has anyone who is surprised/outraged ever played a Dragon Age Game before?
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Youngster_Joey_
12/11/18 5:54:19 PM
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The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted.

Guess we'll be getting more of this shit

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Axiom
12/11/18 5:55:03 PM
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Every game that comes out has the same people whining about SJWs being woke or whatever. They cry about the same things every time. Literally worse than SJWs themselves
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Vyrulisse
12/11/18 5:56:11 PM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted.

Guess we'll be getting more of this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="

This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.
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dave_is_slick
12/11/18 5:56:56 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story

Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
12/11/18 5:57:02 PM
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cant wait for characters to randomly tell me about their sex changes again
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Irony
12/11/18 5:57:29 PM
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Dragon Age Andromeda
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theone1331
12/11/18 5:57:45 PM
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Considering Inquisition was actually the worst game I have played, not much hope for this one.
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UnfairRepresent
12/11/18 5:58:22 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story

Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried.

He was asked about it....
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AlecSkorpio
12/11/18 5:58:37 PM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted.

Guess we'll be getting more of this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="


The one bright side is that this was complained about by trans people so much that they changed it in a patch I think.

Meaning maybe, just maybe, they've realized that shitty writing like this doesn't please *anyone*.
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MC_BatCommander
12/11/18 5:59:57 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted.

Guess we'll be getting more of this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="

This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.


holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS
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dave_is_slick
12/11/18 6:01:19 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"We'll treat Dragon Age the way we've always treated it"

What a news story

Then there'd be no reason to say this. Considering Inquisition was 50/50 on this, this has me a little worried.

He was asked about it....

So ignore it. It has always been about this so why answer?
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creativerealms
12/11/18 6:01:20 PM
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Irony posted...
Dragon Age Andromeda

Uh the political stuff and diversity wasn't the problem with Andromeda.
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creativerealms
12/11/18 6:02:29 PM
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If the game is good it won't matter. I doubt EAs ability to make good games.
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Vyrulisse
12/11/18 6:02:49 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
The fact that they feel the need to say this leads me to believe this is gonna be Andromeda levels of hamfisted.

Guess we'll be getting more of this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndUnqX04Qs" data-time="

This is the perfect example of Nu-Bioware and the kind of nonsense we can look forward to in DA4.


holy shit a transgender rando NPC?! THE MONSTERS

You're either really dense or just trolling. The point is who the NPC is it's the dialogue being offensive and only serves to make the writers feel good about themselves.
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Prestoff
12/11/18 6:03:20 PM
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Has anyone played Dragon Age yet? Its always been like that.
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