Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw

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Jakyl25 posted...

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

So uh, the word is now that WWE isn't worried about the ratings because they are extremely confident that in January they have stuff planned that will turn everything around.

I don't even have a single idea what it could be.

Cenas back on 1/7 and he probably boosts things like 10% just by being there

At least until they start screwing him up too

He just said he wasn't working any televised dates.
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Well hes smarter than he looks with that haircut
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Ah, Cena's going to return but not be on TV at first, then as it gets closer to Wrestlemania he'll start showing up since ratings generally get a bit better at that time anyway so he can take credit for it. I see your high level Hogan tactics John
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https://twitter.com/wwe/status/1073703698629578752?s=21

BREAKING: This Monday night, @VinceMcMahon returns to #RAW to shake things up!

And all the idiot smarks in attendance will do that stupid bow
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I feel like there's some irony in the fact that the only people in the world who hate WWE fans as much as Vince does are the WWE fans who are hardcore enough to still be watching
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Maybe we will finally find out why the Million Dollar Mania set collapsed on Vince

Or maybe everything since then has been his dying dream as he slowly fades from existence
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Poor Nick Miller
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Not a surprise. Thorne has the obvious star potential of the two and Miller is one of the few guys in the bloated company they can safely release without fear of him bringing attention anywhere else.

Shame they never got behind them as a team.
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Whats the tlc card again

it looked pretty good last I checked

still undecided if I go on sunday though
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NBIceman posted...

Not a surprise. Thorne has the obvious star potential of the two and Miller is one of the few guys in the bloated company they can safely release without fear of him bringing attention anywhere else.

Shame they never got behind them as a team.

Supposedly he wanted to go back to Australia to be with his newborn and that the door is open on him returning.

So I don't feel too bad.
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Not exactly a surprise but Golden Lovers vs. Tanahashi/Ospreay was another match of the year candidate.
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ScareChan posted...

Whats the tlc card again

it looked pretty good last I checked

still undecided if I go on sunday though

Bryan vs Styles for the WWE Championship
Corbin vs Strowman in a TLC match - Corbin's GM position and a Strowman/Lesnar title match are on the line
Rollins vs Ambrose for the IC title
Becky vs Charlotte vs Asuka in a TLC match for the SD Women's title
Rousey vs Nia for the Raw Women's title
McIntyre vs Balor
Orton vs Mysterio in a Chairs match
Lashley vs Elias in a ladder match with a guitar at the top
The Bar vs New Day vs Usos for the SD Tag Titles
Murphy vs Alexander for the CW title
Natalya vs Ruby Riott in a Table match
Mahal/Fox vs Truth/Carmella - Winning team gets #30 in their respective Rumbles next month

My picks
Bryan
Strowman
Rollins
Asuka (only so Becky can win the Rumble and it'd be something different)
Rousey
McIntyre
Orton
Elias
The Bar
Murphy
Natalya
Mahalicia
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Matches I care about:
Bryan vs Styles for the WWE Championship
Becky vs Charlotte vs Asuka in a TLC match for the SD Women's title
The Bar vs New Day vs Usos for the SD Tag Titles

Matches I'll like:
McIntyre vs Balor
Murphy vs Alexander for the CW title
Natalya vs Ruby Riott in a Table match

Matches That Could Be Okay:
Rollins vs Ambrose for the IC title
Mahal/Fox vs Truth/Carmella - Winning team gets #30 in their respective Rumbles next month

Why?:
Corbin vs Strowman in a TLC match - Corbin's GM position and a Strowman/Lesnar title match are on the line
Rousey vs Nia for the Raw Women's title

No, Seriously, Why?
Orton vs Mysterio in a Chairs match
Lashley vs Elias in a ladder match with a guitar at the top

PICKS

Bryan
Corbin loses, but not to Strowman
Ambrose
Asuka
Rousey
McIntyre
Orton
Elias
Usos
Alexander
Natalya
Truth/Carmella
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https://streamable.com/0dd93

Take notes, WWE. This is how you do camera work.
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NBIceman posted...

https://streamable.com/0dd93

Take notes, WWE. This is how you do camera work.

dayum
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Hang on, I'd say WWE do camera work well quite often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDHaAuaw7TU#t=18s

I loved the way they kept a tight zoom on Lesnar here to keep Goldberg getting up out of the shot completely, so the Spear (not a takedown, fucking shut up Cole) was surprising and felt like it really was out of "nowhere".
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No gimmick for Bryan styles
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WWE camera work is good if you don'twant to see something. Getting a good shot that isn't 'out of nowhere' is rare though.
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ooh

Before Cena/Punk on Raw 2013 to decide who faced Rock at WM, I remember they shot Cena's entrance at a lower angle so you could see the sign, so it was like he was symbolically running to WM

They do cool stuff sometimes. I wonder if that was a Kevin Dunn decision, he's got to be good for something
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Kevin Dunn is really good but it does have to be noted that things he did during New Gen and stuff that was at the time revolutionary are now standard and that he takes far fewer risks and unconventional ideas than he did but that was also going on 30 years ago which sounds natural.

Like I remember when HBK was getting his feud with Marty going as he was well into his pretty boy gimmick, he was posing with the mirror like he always does and Marty just APPEARS in the mirror and then proceeds to beat the shit out of him with the mirror sort of calling back to the famous Barber Shop confrontation. Fucking awesome back then but sooooort of standard now?
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Kevin Dunn with time to prepare and knowing exactly what spots to plan is actually really good. Like the Festival of Friendship recently.

On spur of the moment and largely unplanned things like a generic run in and brawl, he is impossibly bad.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Kevin Dunn with time to prepare and knowing exactly what spots to plan is actually really good. Like the Festival of Friendship recently.

On spur of the moment and largely unplanned things like a generic run in and brawl, he is impossibly bad.

Right.

His fetish for camera cuts is legitimately nauseating.
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ScareChan posted...

No gimmick for Bryan styles

Nope. First time the WWE Championship will be defended at TLC in a regular match

2009 - Table match
2010 - Table match
2011 - TLC match
2013 - TLC match
2015 - TLC match
2016 - TLC match

Punk was inactive in 2012 for a brief period, Lesnar lol'd at the idea of showing up in 2014, and 2017 was Raw exclusive (which Lesnar probably lol'd at the idea of showing up too).

Along with this, TLC still has a unique main event winner every year since its first ppv

HHH/HBK
Cena
Punk
Ziggler
Orton
Wyatt
Sheamus
Styles
Rollins/Ambrose/Angle

This list is only guaranteed to end if Rollins/Ambrose main events, but we'll probably have Corbin/Strowman close the show cause Vince hates us
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kind of sad the triple threat tag is not gimmick after what Usos and New Day did for their HIAC

thats kind of the match I would be most interested in just based on their histories
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Kevin Dunns favorite musical artist is Flo Rida
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^ Explains a lot.
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

ScareChan posted...

No gimmick for Bryan styles

Nope. First time the WWE Championship will be defended at TLC in a regular match

2009 - Table match
2010 - Table match
2011 - TLC match
2013 - TLC match
2015 - TLC match
2016 - TLC match

Punk was inactive in 2012 for a brief period, Lesnar lol'd at the idea of showing up in 2014, and 2017 was Raw exclusive (which Lesnar probably lol'd at the idea of showing up too).

Along with this, TLC still has a unique main event winner every year since its first ppv

HHH/HBK
Cena
Punk
Ziggler
Orton
Wyatt
Sheamus
Styles
Rollins/Ambrose/Angle

This list is only guaranteed to end if Rollins/Ambrose main events, but we'll probably have Corbin/Strowman close the show cause Vince hates us

Lesnar did have one defence in 2014, that was at NOC and ruined by Seth trying to cash in and slow/incompetent refs failing to take the case.
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Now that the rest of the Elite have left Scurll behind in ROH, his new stable is himself, Brody King, and PCO

Thats nifty and just the right kind of unhinged
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Jakyl25 posted...

Now that the rest of the Elite have left Scurll behind in ROH, his new stable is himself, Brody King, and PCO

Thats nifty and just the right kind of unhinged

and maybe actually villainous!
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PCO stole Brets jacket once! VILLAIN
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Decided that I really want to go to TLC because potential of styles an and Bryan is so high

But i feel like crap so gonna have to pass
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^ Let me guess, it's that disgusting Northern Hemisphere flu being blown around?
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Had that last weeks this is foot issue to where I can barely walk
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also its starting to rain and I dont like driving on the freeway in the rain. It'd be like 2 hours and just yeah. Rain, cant walk. But man Im going to watch and be salty haha
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I want to meet the person who asks for nothing but new day merch for xmas
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I want to give props to Lio Rush

he is a great heat magnet manager. You want to see him punched in the face
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missed the CW match, how was it
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***-ish
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All right time to see who wins A VACATION ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
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my setup is dumb right now

my tv monitor is red zone and tlc

my comp is poker

my phone is KANGZ

its a busy sunday
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Rtruth and Brock at mania

lets see Brock dance break his way out of that one
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Can you imagine Brock selling for little jimmy
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A 3 month round robin for that joke to be the payoff
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any chance womens tlc main events
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if corbin loses I think Slater is new gm
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ScareChan posted...

any chance womens tlc main events

Becky said the Smackdown women's title is main eventing

whether that meant going last or "main eventing" in the WWE sense of the word I'm not sure
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LOL ALL THE BEST BABYFACES ASK FOR HELP FROM THE ROSTER

How is this so hard to book a strong face
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Kurt the true mastermind
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I thought it was a good segment
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I am just laughing at Brauns positioning here

I mean I assume he cant bump but LOL
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