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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 11:23:26 AM
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Carrying on from the previous topic.
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WickIebee
11/23/18 11:25:31 AM
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Tracking just like previous topic, though not much more to add to Blade Runner.
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StifledSilence
11/23/18 11:44:41 AM
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This post from CybrMonkey in the previous topic sums up my thoughts on Deckard (it wouldnt let me quote it for some reason):

For me, whether Deckard is a replicant is almost beside the point. He's a guy asked to do increasingly horrifying things in his job as a professional assassin until he ultimately loses his connection to humanity. This is how I read the Rachel rape scene as consistent with his character; he's been forced to dehumanize these people because of his line of work, and that serves as an ultimate example of the consequences. Roy's ending monologue finally forces him to confront what he has become.

Deckard being a replicant actually undermines this message. The whole point is that denying the humanity of the replicants made Deckard, a human, into the inhuman figure he was charged with fighting against. Basically it's a film meditation on the Nietzsche "He who fights with monsters" quote.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/23/18 12:33:17 PM
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I actually watched the theatrical cut of the film (caught it on TV earlier this year) and I still liked it a lot.

Favorite movie I've seen this year that isn't Star Wars. At least no one here really tore it to shreds like with poor 2001. I at least understand why someone wouldn't be into it but for me it pretty much lived up to the hype. Though I probably won't be putting it in my top 5...
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profDEADPOOL
11/23/18 4:03:31 PM
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New topic hype
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v_charon
11/23/18 4:44:05 PM
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I never once got the impression he was a replicant nor did I ever feel the movie wanted you to think about that. I mean, I thought about what is the real difference between the replicants and the humans other than their aging, but not about Deckard himself.

Oh, and I already knew he was in the sequel set many years later so he really couldn't be anyway.
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Johnbobb
11/23/18 4:44:52 PM
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 5:24:33 PM
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v_charon posted...
I never once got the impression he was a replicant nor did I ever feel the movie wanted you to think about that. I mean, I thought about what is the real difference between the replicants and the humans other than their aging, but not about Deckard himself.

Oh, and I already knew he was in the sequel set many years later so he really couldn't be anyway.

The director of the original believed he was. It's a different director for the sequel and that one never confirms or denies it.
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WickIebee
11/23/18 5:25:06 PM
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v_charon posted...
I never once got the impression he was a replicant nor did I ever feel the movie wanted you to think about that.


Yeah, this was how it was for me too.
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v_charon
11/23/18 5:29:30 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...

The director of the original believed he was. It's a different director for the sequel and that one never confirms or denies it.


I know I haven't seen it, but the character is much, much older and it's 30 actual time years in the world. That is older than replicants can live by far, and they don't seem to "age" as humans do, at least according to the first film. If the second film invented new stories about replicants being able to prolong their life, then it's still believable, but having not seen that second film and knowing only what the first film told me then it is impossible Deckard is a replicant.
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Inviso
11/23/18 5:32:33 PM
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Based on everyone EXCEPT Ridley Scott claiming "no, he's not a replicant" and the fact that Deckard being a replicant undermines the emotional impact of the ending (almost as much as the shitty narration in the theatrical cut), this is one instance where I think the director may just be making shit up post-production. Like some of J.K. Rowling's "oh, I wanted Hermione to be black" interviews.
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 5:33:00 PM
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At the same time, the first film and second film have different directors, so it's possible to have different visions for the films. The unicorn pretty much confirms that Deckard is a replicant in the directors cut.
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 5:36:12 PM
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I'll post the next film in a little bit. Got somewhat delayed with Black Friday, but having lots of customers is a good thing!
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v_charon
11/23/18 5:41:07 PM
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Ridley Scott is one of those directors that now, after having seen more of his body of work, I feel is a bit overrated.
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11/23/18 5:45:04 PM
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 6:26:40 PM
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#21 - Men in Black (1997)
Stifled - 6
Inviso - 13
Wickle - 14
Charon - 17
Johnbobb - 19
Scarlet - 21
JONA - 22
Genny - 23
Karo - 24
Snake - 32
KBM - 33


"i'm not saying everyone has to love men in black. i get that not everyone is into artsy movies. but some of those writeups just make it seem like the movie is over the writers' heads. (god, i wish their was a less pretentious way to say this but i don't think there is, so whatever.) if all you got out of the movie is "he flashes people with lights" or "elvis is alive" or "aliens explode into goo" you just didn't get it. which in itself is totally fine! i didn't get it when i first saw it either. truffaut's law states that a critic should watch a movie three times, or the review should come with an apology. this law applies more than any other movie to they live. i certainly don't expect everyone to do a deep dive into the movie. my issue is that almost none of the film's detractors acknowledge that they didn't get it (^5 KBM - she actually did say she didn't get it). this just makes the writeups come across as incredibly arrogant and dismissive to me. the fact that people are essentially going "lol this is all stupid nonsensical bullshit by will smith" really rubs me the wrong way.

it's like if someone would look at a picasso and say "LOL WTF IS THIS SHIT HE COULDN'T EVEN DRAW PROPERLY." (the sad reality is that some people DO say shit like that about picasso's work >_>; )

...also, i like interstellar! it just has no business being above men in black on any ranking of science fiction movies that is to be taken seriously. one is an absolute masterpiece and one of the most monumental achievements in movie history, the other is a fun popcorn flick." ~Lasa

"Edgar Bug. Edgar Bug. Extra terrestrial Edgar Bug. Pours sugar water in himself. Crams a waiter in a shelf. IS THAT BETTER?! Here comes the Edgar Bug.

Traviss Opinion: Travis was interested in weird things like towels and jackets. He ignored the aliens and guns. You know, the meat of the movie. About halfway through when J got the Noisy Cricket, Travis got up on the couch and watched the movie intently. He really liked the Will Smith song." ~Stifled

"Man, what is it about the mid-to-late 90s that inspired movie producers to make a fuckton of goofy-ass alien movies? Galaxy Quest falls under this category too, though its not on the list. And Im not saying this is a bad thingIm just saying its an interesting trend when you think about it. Anyway, Men in Black is a fun movie. It takes anot WEIRD concept, but a concept people KIND already think exists, and it manages to flesh it out into reality. Tommy Lee Jones works as a hard-ass government official, and ultimately, the movie turns into a buddy cop film as Will Smiths fast-talking, street smart Agent J serves as the comedic foil to Jones straight man Agent K. I like the fact that the plot is self-contained. Yes, its apocalyptic by the end, but for the most part, the plot is just a minor story that doesnt affect most of the world. That makes it feel more intimate and interesting. The ONE thing I find fault with is the abrupt end to Ks story arc, but again, Im willing to tolerate that because we got a well-paced action comedy with some REALLY interesting alien concepts." ~Inviso

"Enjoyable at the beginning when it is just Will Smiths humor, but once that calms down it is a bit disappointing. Also fairly gross, not a great movie to watch with a fear of bugs." ~Wickle
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 6:26:54 PM
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"Some alien encounters are hoaxes perpetrated by your government to manipulate the public. Some of these hoaxes are intentionally revealed to manipulate the truth-seekers who become discredited if they disclose the deliberately absurd deception. No other object has been misidentified as a flying saucer more often than the planet Venus. Even the former leader of your United States of America, James Earl Carter Jr., thought he saw a UFO once... But it's been proven he only saw the planet Venus. Venus was at its peak brilliance last night. You probably thought you saw something up in the sky other than Venus, but I assure you, it was Venus. Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare seeing is believing? Gauntlet Crew, your scientific illiteracy makes me shudder, and I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by telling anyone that you saw anything last night other than the planet Venus, because if you do, you're a dead crew." ~Charon

"We've got Will Smith at the top of his game, Tommy Lee Jones being just the right balance of goofy and serious, and constant comedy that still makes me laugh. I feel like Jake Peralta from Brooklyn Nine-Nine is VERY inspired by Smith's Agent J. Like Peralta, J is immediately a character you want to see succeed. He never gives the appearance of knowing what he's doing; he's laid-back and comical, but he's also extremely intelligent and damn good at what he does. It mixes the best parts of a buddy comedy with solid doses of sci-fi and cop mystery, overall leaving what is just a very enjoyable movie." ~Johnbobb

"What It Is: I forget.

Why It Matters: A huge cog in the evolution of both science fiction and superhero films into consistent popcorn flick blockbusters, Men In Black spawned a trilogy of some of the most successful science fiction films and helped solidify Will Smith as a bankable superstar.

What I Think: Aside from the delightful and somewhat wicked send-ups of both immigration policy and pop culture, this movie is pretty lightweight. That said, Tommy Lee Jones is maybe the greatest straight man in the business, able to deliver the lines without any buffoonery whatsoever and simultaneously provide credibility and insanity to the concept of this film. I do think this movie has aged better than some on this list thanks to the interestingly topical discussion on immigration and illegal aliens. It's more prescient now than one might expect." ~scarlet

"This movie held up better than I remembered. What really makes the movie for me is the great chemistry between Agent K and Agent J. Theyre also fun characters even when theyre not with each other. Thrown in some cool, yet outdated, looking aliens, some decent action and comedy and its a pretty fun ride. " ~JONA

"I'm surprised how little I remembered about Men in Black- and yes there's an obvious joke there and I'm perfectly aware of it. Anyway the only things I retained a decent recollection of going into this movie other than who starred in it, was the dang theme song that plays during the credit, and that the pug was an alien. That's it. I didn't recall the ending, I didn't remember a single thing about the villain- an amazing feat given it's so repulsive... I didn't even recall that Will Smith didn't start out as Agent Jay. I may have more memories of the sequel than of the original in fact. Well this was a fun kind of weird adventure sort of buddy cop movie in a sense. I didn't not enjoy it, I just don't think it holds up to some of the other movies on this list. " ~Genny
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 6:28:03 PM
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"There's this secret government organization that deals with illegal alien activity (the flying saucer kind, not the hola amigo kind), and this wacky NYPD cop joins the ranks and much hijinks were had.
There is a quite a bit of good banter between the two leads, but it feels wasted on a plot that seems conceived by an 8-year-old and a lame antagonist who does little but lurch about haplessly with contorted facial expressions, struggling to form basic sentences like he has a severe mental disability or is a devout Donald Trump supporter.
You can have a comedy without straying so far out of the realm of believability that plot angles that come off as a monkey throwing its feces at a canvas to see what sticks, or as nothing more than an excuse to show off more of the movie's critter effects. It honestly brings to mind all too many of the biggest problems about that era of filmmaking." ~Karo

"Occassionally funny, Men in Black makes the most of the chemistry between Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones and a decent concept." ~Snake

"Here's one that I imagine a lot of people my age probably have nostalgia for, where I have none whatsoever. The third movie would actually have fared better for me. I do love Vincent D'Onofrio's performance as the villain in this a hilarious physical performance that conceptually feels like one of the cards from the Whose Line game Party Quirks (a cockroach alien trying to pass himself off as a farmer feels like one Ryan Stiles would have ended up acting out). I will say the more explicitly roach-y scenes were hard for me to watch. The main strike against this movie, for me, is the same problem I have with a lot of Barry Sonnenfield's movies: a lot of random bits of the humor just hit me as really juvenile. Every time a joke would hit, there would be another joke that would miss, and some that would miss obnoxiously enough that I would be actively annoyed. And yet, the cast does have good chemistry, and even if a lot of the movie is overbearingly nineties (definitely not my favorite nostalgia decade, aesthetically speaking), a lot of it does work and is a lot of fun. I imagine if I had seen the MIB movies when they came out, and not all in 2018 for the first time, I probably would have a lot more residual fondness for this one." ~KBM
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Inviso
11/23/18 6:28:16 PM
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Somewhere, he doesn't know why, but Lasa just got a boner.
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 6:32:40 PM
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The Outlander Game Part XX: Gen in Back

Stifled - 201
Wickle - 197
JONA - 196
KBM - 165
Inviso - 157
Snake - 148
Karo - 133
Genny - 130
Johnbobb - 127
Scarlet - 127
Charon - 120

Genny has had three straight movies with five or fewer points, and she's slowly sinking out of contention, now just ten away from Charon who is stuck in last place.
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ZeroSignal620
11/23/18 6:46:32 PM
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No #24?

40) When Worlds Collide
39) Barbarella
38) Fantastic Voyage
37) Forbidden Planet
36) Logan's Run
35) Outland
34) Equilibrium
33) Invasion of the Body Snatchers
32) Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
31) Westworld
30) The Day the Earth Stood Still
29) Soylent Green
28) Independence Day
27) 2001: A Space Odyssey
26) Metropolis
25) They Live
23) Attack the Block
22) Blade Runner
21) Men in Black

Planet of the Apes
Alien
The Terminator
Back to the Future
Aliens
RoboCop
Total Recall
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
12 Monkeys
Gattaca
The Fifth Element
Dark City
The Matrix
Donnie Darko
Sunshine
District 9
Moon
Gravity
Interstellar
Edge of Tomorrow
Ex Machina
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scarletspeed7
11/23/18 6:48:26 PM
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I will post #24 tomorrow, sorry. This has just been a terrible time for me to host the list. I just skipped over it somehow.
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v_charon
11/23/18 6:48:27 PM
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I'm thinking 24 had to be Planet of the Apes.
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Vengeful_KBM
11/23/18 9:56:46 PM
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I dunno, guys, I always felt Deckard had to be a replicant.

Also, finally MIB drops.

I'm going to guess #24 is Total Recall. Could be Apes.
scarletspeed7
11/24/18 12:38:11 PM
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#24 - Total Recall (Not 2012)
Stifled - 3
Karo - 12
Charon - 15
JONA - 15
Inviso - 16
Genny - 22
KBM - 29
Snake - 29
Johnbobb - 30
Scarlet - 31
Wickle - 35

Total: 237

"RECALL RECALL RECALLLLLL! I absolutely love in-film propaganda. All of the news updates on the rebellion on Mars and all of the Recall commercials make the experience so much more immersive. Ahnold (typo intended) is at the top of his game for this one. While I may prefer a certain movie about killer robots to this one, Doug Quaid/Hauser is actually my favorite performance of his. The cackling, the one-liners, the actual battle with himself, and everything else is just stellar. I shudder to think of anyone doing this movie besides him. The rest of the cast is great too, particularly evil Ronnie Cox. I could be happy with Ronnie Cox being the baddie in every 80s movie, honestly. The action is great. The chick with three boobs is completely out of left field, but works so well in a movie like this. Its amazing, campy, bullet-ridden fun at its finest. This is one of those movies Im always down to watch.

Traviss Opinion: I believe I mentioned a chick with three boobs somewhere in my write up. No thank you! Travis skipped this one. He saw enough accidental boobs with all of those PG movies that tricked me. Gotta parent when I can!" ~Stifled

"So a futuristic doctor is able to plant memories of exotic vacations into peoples heads and for some reason this is a successful business. Anyway, this ordinary construction worker goes there and has a super-spy mars adventure shoved in his head. But maybe he was the spy all along and his other life was fake. Or maybe he is having a mental breakdown.
Regardless of what the facts are, Arnold goes through various areas and planets kicking a lot of ass as everyone tries to kill him, including his wife and coworkers. It all comes down to the heroes activating an alien reactor that fills the surface of mars with oxygen and ends with everyone taking their first steps in the now breathable atmosphere of the planet. Shortly afterward everyone dies of exposure because the surface of mars has like an average low of -70 degrees in the best of situations.
The plot goes all over the place with evil corporations, worker rebellions, alien artifacts and constant betrayals or plot twists. It does strain the believability at times, though because maybe it was possibly not real that is kind of the point. The silly mutant grotesqueries make the movie seem very dated and most certainly could have been done without, but it is still a fun ride." ~Karo

"The obvious question at the end is if you feel like Quaid does or not; did he really just live out the advertised dream from Rekall? After all, they said the experience would be extremely convincing and real. Everything they said happened did happen; he was a secret agent, he did save the planet, and he did get his dream girl at the end. Now, obviously he was having dreams about Mars before he went, leading you to think maybe he really was a brainwashed ex-agent, but maybe it was simply a meaningless dream that Rekall turned into reality. It's interesting to think about, but even beyond that, the movie itself is very enjoyable. The characters and the world are enjoyable, and Quaid himself is a fun action hero lead. "Hahaha, you think this is the real Quaid?" ... "it is!"." ~Charon
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 12:38:35 PM
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"The premise is awesome and I love ideas that involve messing with your mind and memories. Total Recalls got a fun, lively and visually appealing world and has some great action and some comedy thrown in there. I love the twist in this movie. Its very unique and theres not many particularly like it." ~JONA

"This movie was a trippy mindfuck through and through, and the fact that it was so convoluted actually made it more fun to watch. As usual, Arnold is not the most versatile actor, but when you need someone to be a badass, hes your man. And he starts out as your typical everyman, just working a crappy construction job on Earth, and hes bored with his life. He wants to go to Mars for a vacation. And the concept behind Recall itself is intriguing, because it offers a tangible service (which Id actually like if it were real) that allows for some vagueness to the plot. But then he goes to Recall and things get weird, because everything that happens in the movie is exactly the plot that the Recall sales rep pitched to Arnold. But at the same time, from a cinematic perspective, the plot feels like it HAS to be real, if only because of all the scenes where Arnold is not involved. Ultimately, everything about this, from a secret agent sci-fi spy movie perspective, is amazing. The effects are cheesy, yet fun. The acting is cheesy, yet fun. And its an upgrade from Paul Verhoeven, who already did a great job with RoboCop." ~Inviso

"Jason brought up an excellent point regarding Total Recall: You pay your credits or whatever to have these perfect memories implanted of these fabulous vacations or alternate realities, but as soon as you get the bill labeled "Total Recall" your brain is going to recognize them as false immediately so what's the point? Other than that rather gaping plot hole this is a fun movie rife for speculation, at which Jason and I arrived at conflicting opinions as to whether the entire experience was fabricated. Word of God says I'm correct, but that doesn't really matter. All that DOES matter is that you think this is the real Quaid? Ha ha ha, it is!" ~Genny

"I enjoyed the twisting, turning sci-fi potboiler parts of the movie a lot more than I did the Arnold Schwarzenegger '80s action movie parts, but that's really just personal taste, as both aspects of this movie are done well. Both Verhoeven and Arnold have had better projects in their illustrious careers, but Total Recall still manages to be entertaining as hell a majority of the time, even when it's impossible to take seriously. At its best, it's reminiscent of the blood-soaked, manically satirical highs of Starship Troopers, but other times it veers a little too hard into the trashier, Basic Instinct side of Verhoeven that I'm not as big a fan of. The best thing about this movie is the villains I love a good crazy Michael Ironside villain, and Ronny Cox is great too as the sneering Big Bad Cohaagen. A lot of scenes tend to devolve into loud shootouts with automatic weapons that get repetitive after awhile, but even if this doesn't have quite the edge that other, similar movies have, there are certainly some great moments. Mars has rarely looked prettier." ~KBM

"Buried underneath this otherwise hardcore action film is actually a surprisingly twisty plot that never really reaches the full lengths it could with Schwarzenegger leading the charge. Still, combined with Verhoevens penchant for satire, Total Recall is still a pretty fun movie throughout." ~Snake
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 12:39:56 PM
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"God, this is all over the place. I guess I'll start by saying that as much as I like Arnie, he's not a good actor by any stretch of the imagination. It worked in Terminator, where he's specifically playing someone awkward and robotic, but playing the "everyman" is not his forte. Not that the rest of the performances are better. Then again, this isn't the type of movie you go to if that's what you're looking for. I think that was my ultimate issue with it; Total Recall isn't really my kind of movie. It did make me laugh, and it's definitely not boring, so overall I had a good time with it, despite (or maybe because of?) its oddities." ~Johnbobb

"What It Is: The movie that created the Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard.

Why It Matters: Total Recall was a hugely successful (although not at all faithful) adaptation of a classic Phil K. Dick concept, and it proved to be a massive hit. While Arnold was already on the map, this movie really solidified his starpower.

What I Think: There really aren't too many movies which I bandy about the word "lightweight" on this list, but this is definitely one of them. Nothing really resonated with me after the film ended, unlike much more thoughtful movies further on the list with haunting endings or questions that left me uncomfortable. For me, it's just a slightly higher-budgeted episode of Babylon 5. Which is great, by the way, but not at all reaching the fantastic heights or even the penetrating insights of the cream of the crop (which is most of the list)." ~scarlet

"The Mars suffocation scenes were gross. So was the melee fight when they were breaking out from getting their mind rewritten. Just a movie that tried everything to be an action flick and wasnt going to be interesting to me." ~Wickle
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 12:42:11 PM
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The Outlander Game Part XX: Total Rewind

Stifled - 224
Wickle - 208
JONA - 206
KBM - 170
Inviso - 165
Snake - 153
Karo - 145
Scarlet - 134
Johnbobb - 133
Genny - 132
Charon - 129

Oops. Well, now we are officially back on track, but luckily it was just a flat-out omission and not a retroactive edit to point totals.
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PrinceKaro
11/24/18 1:00:49 PM
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One thing thats been bugging me.. was the pill scene in the Matrix a nod to this movie?
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 1:02:44 PM
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I know the Wachowskis were influenced by other films, but I don't think I've ever seen Total Recall among them.
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v_charon
11/24/18 1:37:42 PM
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PrinceKaro posted...
One thing thats been bugging me.. was the pill scene in the Matrix a nod to this movie?


... how could you really think this? Morpheus literally mentions falling down the rabbit hole. What piece of literature does that sound like a nod to?
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v_charon
11/24/18 1:39:00 PM
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Also, haha you thought number 24 was the real Total Recall.

It is.
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PrinceKaro
11/24/18 1:42:41 PM
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v_charon posted...

... how could you really think this? Morpheus literally mentions falling down the rabbit hole. What piece of literature does that sound like a nod to?


I mean using a pill to return to 'reality'
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v_charon
11/24/18 1:44:45 PM
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I mean... that is what was happening in Alice in Wonderland too.
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 1:50:38 PM
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I thought Alice in Wonderlands borrowed heavily from Batman villains.
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JONALEON1
11/24/18 1:52:55 PM
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Matrix was always referencing the Trix commercials.

come on guys it's in the name
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Lopen
11/24/18 1:56:31 PM
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Wow very surprising to see Blade Runner drop so soon. I tend to agree with most of you guys though. It's always been a film that seemed like it should be really awesome on paper but in execution just didn't really work for me because despite having a compelling enough plot at its core and having a good cast and setting, the pacing is just totally killer and I end up being bored most of the time.
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StifledSilence
11/24/18 2:23:48 PM
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Hahahaha you think this is my real top ten being murdered?!

It is =(
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LinkMarioSamus
11/24/18 3:27:58 PM
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Lopen posted...
Wow very surprising to see Blade Runner drop so soon. I tend to agree with most of you guys though. It's always been a film that seemed like it should be really awesome on paper but in execution just didn't really work for me because despite having a compelling enough plot at its core and having a good cast and setting, the pacing is just totally killer and I end up being bored most of the time.


I don't remember the movie well enough to exactly "defend" it (as much as a film of Blade Runner's stature needs defending), but while I can definitely understand taking this stance towards the film, I saw it for the first time earlier this year and absolutely relished it. Then again maybe the "problem" is that I'm actually interested in movies like Blade Runner and 2001 while some of you guys only watch them because of their reputations.

Like, with 2001, yeah I'll concede that the film could be trimmed off a decent bit and not really lose anything. Blade Runner didn't really feel particularly slow-paced to me.

That being said, Blade Runner was not very well-received at all on release so don't feel bad for disliking it.
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Lopen
11/24/18 5:44:23 PM
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Well less outright slow and more uneven I (and most of the gauntleters IIRC) would say. If you're really into certain elements from the movie it's probably easier to overlook though.
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 5:46:14 PM
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Here are the remaining movies:
Planet of the Apes
Alien
The Terminator
Back to the Future
Aliens
RoboCop
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
12 Monkeys
Gattaca
The Fifth Element
Dark City
The Matrix
Donnie Darko
Sunshine
Moon
District 9
Gravity
Edge of Tomorrow
Interstellar
Ex Machina

And here are the remaining point totals:
97
119
125
134
148
155
155
156
162
164
172
176
177
179
182
182
203
203
207
208
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11/24/18 5:48:13 PM
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Was it a conscious decision to not include Star Trek or Star Wars?
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 5:49:45 PM
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Anagram posted...
Was it a conscious decision to not include Star Trek or Star Wars?

Yes. That is Sci Fi II: Trek vs. Wars. There is a preplanned trilogy of Sci Fi rankings.
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PrinceKaro
11/24/18 5:57:50 PM
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the next four are so close together
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11/24/18 5:58:17 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
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Was it a conscious decision to not include Star Trek or Star Wars?

Yes. That is Sci Fi II: Trek vs. Wars. There is a preplanned trilogy of Sci Fi rankings.

Gotcha, thanks.
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scarletspeed7
11/24/18 7:05:34 PM
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Hey, to apologize for the delays, I'm going... to delay today!

Actually, not quite.

I'm going to give everyone 24 hours to make a prediction on the final 20 rankings. The person who is closest to the final rankings will win a $20 or $25 gift card, courtesy me. I figured I could do a cool little Christmas present for Gauntlet Crew. The gift card options will be Olive Garden, Starbucks, Best Buy or Barnes and Noble.

PM me either on GameFAQs or Discord before 6:00 pm CST tomorrow (Sunday), and we'll see just who is the closest to nailing the final rankings for the group!

Consider this an apology for the delays this week and a big thank you for everyone who participated on my list.
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StifledSilence
11/25/18 12:16:58 PM
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Booooooop
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scarletspeed7
11/25/18 3:25:01 PM
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Only a few hours to enter the contest.
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scarletspeed7
11/25/18 6:59:48 PM
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All right! Time is up. I'll reveal the winner AFTER the final ranking, but you are all welcome to expose your rankings as we go if you want.
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scarletspeed7
11/25/18 7:16:02 PM
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#20 - RoboCop (1987)
Wickle - 3
Snake - 6
JONA - 8
Charon - 12
Karo - 19
KBM - 19
Johnbobb - 22
Inviso - 23
Stifled - 27
Scarlet - 32
Genny - 37

Total: 208

"I cant believe Im placing a movie this bloody so high. But Murphy was such a great character. That development was really good and I loved his theme. I had some complaints, but many stopped bothering me after a point. Story was nice with corruption and stuff." ~Wickle

"Its nearly impossible to match the level of satire on display in this film, an overindulgance of violence, capitalism, and the neverending march of technology. In another film, our tin-can protagonist would be an unstoppable villain, but here he delivers swift justice to the criminal underbelly of Detroit as the movie gives him only the slightest emotional connections to further accenuate the fact that he has lost almost all humanity. With a great ending that contains one of the best body horror moments in film history, RoboCop is an absolute winner front to back. " ~Snake

"I just love how over-the-top this movie can be, but it also has its smart moments with its satire. The violence in this movie is just fantastic. Its just extremely brutal. The movie portrays how shitty the living environment is very well. I liked how the movie conveyed how big of a help technology can be for society but also that it has its downsides. Boddicker was an interesting villain. He was clearly a terrible person but also you gotta kinda admire how much effort he puts in against the juggernaut that is Robocop. Just an awesome movie." ~JONA

"Murphy's death scene was so damn violent, maybe one of the goriest moments on this entire list. I had totally forgot about that part and it's just so sickening and shocking. Robocop is interesting to me because it explores the concept of what is thought to be a machine rediscovering his identity as a human being. I've always thought the movie is remarkably gorgeous, especially for the time period. Robocops suit still looks so authentic to me and I was never taken out of film by anything that seemed odd or out of place. The antagonists here are particularly vile; it's really easy to hate both Dick and Clarence and enjoy when they get what's coming to them. Murphy's Law." ~Charon

"A critically injured police officer is rebuilt into a crime-fighting cyborg in what is possibly meant to be the future, though aside from the robots there seems to be little difference from the 1980s. Just as you'd expect, he eventually regains his memories and goes rogue in order to take down his killers.
The absurdly evil corporate executives are hilarious, as of course are the fake newscasts and commercials that litter the film.
The plot is very thin and is mainly used as an excuse to have RoboCop kick ass and blow shit up, and while that is still entertaining, it leaves you wanting something a little bit more. It is good cheesy fun to watch, but it is still a very generic revenge story that is not very remarkable or memorable aside from a few choice quotes." ~Karo

"I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!

I will, though. In fact, I'd even say this movie is worth more than a dollar: I'd buy a ticket to see this rereleased in theaters. Paul Verhoeven is great at trashy ultraviolence with a Message, and this is him in peak form. He's not the only one that shows up to make this a great time, though Peter Weller is straight-up iconic in the title role, and the supporting cast is overflowing with underrated character actors like Kurtwood Smith, Ray Wise, and Miguel Ferrer.
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