Board 8 > A Request to Stop the Bullying

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I guess we don't. I was under the impression that he was viewed as a troll, and based on his posts I believe it.
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i'm pretty sure BT would be offended if he knew you thought he might kill himself because of arguments on board 8

you don't catch depression from fighting with people on the internet

redrocket posted...

SuperNiceDog posted...

do we really know if he's ok with the harassment?

If anything he feeds off it.

Alright. I guess I'll take your word on it. I'm sorry for disrespecting GrapeFruitKing and Emperor_Shaz's memory. I guess I could identify with BT because I've gotten bullied in the past month on here too, that's all. I know you guys don't really like me.
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I think SND is trying to say that Black Turtle might already be depressed, and this treatment of him might be exacerbating it, rather than that internet arguments are necessarily causing him to be depressed.

How could anyone dislike a super nice dog? That's, like unamerican or something! And I'm a cat person!

But seriously, I know I'm not popular. Or wasn't, the last time I was a regular here.
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Come on guys, SND knew exactly what he was doing when he made this topic. No one could read those contest stats topics and legitimately come out of them thinking "oh poor black turtle".
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oh even if it's a troll job I do believe he legitimately has no clue about what really happened with GFK or Kazbar
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

How could anyone dislike a super nice dog? That's, like unamerican or something! And Im a cat person!

thanks man! Maybe I'm the one that's depressed... I see BT and I just hope he doesn't take these messages from you guys literally or personally. We can never truly know his situation, or mine, or anyone else here.
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Maybe what I saw as bullying you guys just saw as playful banter. I think that's what happened.
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BT is one of the last people that could get depressed over something like that.

LeonhartFour posted...

oh even if it's a troll job I do believe he legitimately has no clue about what really happened with GFK or Kazbar

there's no way SND isn't anything but sincere

SuperNiceDog posted...

Maybe what I saw as bullying you guys just saw as playful banter. I think that's what happened.

Not if it was directed towards you. None of that was playful banter.
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pro tip

let's assume we live in some reality where you're really not trolling

and let's assume that your assessment is correct and that the people here really are "bullying" black turtle, ulti, and lasa to an extent that is evil and you absolutely needed to speak out on it

and let's assume you actually have no idea what is going on around you at any moment in time

some really helpful advice

don't randomly bring up people's dead friends to try and guilt them into behaving the way you think they should behave
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SuperNiceDog posted...

I've gotten bullied in the past month on here too, that's all. I know you guys don't really like me.

SuperNiceDog posted...

Maybe I'm the one that's depressed...

Is that what this topic is really about?

Demand an apology if you feel you deserve one. Stand up for yourself if you want to.

If you want to talk about your own issues, you can do that. People won't be mad as long as you're respectful.

Actually no, let me break this down a little more.

SuperNiceDog posted...

I called people IN GENERAL who liked the Detective Pikachu trailer cucks and SJWs

First off, you literally insult people for the type of video game they like. Standard fare on Gamefaqs but only does that disqualify you from having the right to call people out for "bullying" ( Especially since both those insults are politically charged and are overused to the point of losing any real meaning), but you don't even have the balls to focus your insults. Saying "[user] is a a cuck" has more impact than saying "[fanbase] are cucks".

Let's speak about Nansis and Black Turtle for a bit. Nansis has a tendency to go against the grain, to say things that are rather provocative. Now that's no excuse to bully anyone, but unfortunately some of his opinions tend to be grossly offensive. Such as(and please inform me if the following is mistaken, I am going off memory) suggesting that gay marriage is an abomination. Considering how much bullshit gay people go through(and indeed there are some on this very board), could you not make the argument that saying your lifestyle is wrong far more distasteful than being snarked at?

As for Black Turtle.... when you antagonize people, you don't get to cry when people antagonize you back. I've seen him insult and provoke people multiple times since his return so if someone is mean back to him, I will play the world's smallest violin. What's that? "Two wrongs don't make a right?" Sure, but the Golden Rule is also in play. Act like a dick towards a community, and they'll return the favor. That's human nature.

As for the other comments, most of us are old enough to not be threatened by cursing. We don't always get along, and no one is required to be nice 24/7. We bicker, we argue, and we eventually get over it and no one gives a shit. I can't think of a single regular that would even remember anyone else calling them a fuckwit a week after the fact, much less give a shit.

Then you bring up Ulti. This is absolutely laughable because Ulti, and this is someone who has tried desperately to stay friends with him for years, has been an absolutely insufferable troll for years. Ever since 2016 he has made it his mission to get under our skin, to antagonize us, to insult us, to wave his metaphorical dick in our faces all to stroke his own ego. Every bit of animosity Ulti receives is well deserved, because he has been an unrepentant unpleasant person for long enough that most of his bridges are on fire if not utterly burned.

(That's not to say he lacks friends, but if you saw half the shit he's said you wouldn't be defending him.)

All of that, ignoble. But you decided to cross a line. You literally, in your fucking inane attempt to guilt trip the community over petty words, decided to bring up a user who tragically took his own life. For what? For whatever stupid gimmick you're trying to pull? To suggest that "anyone could potentially be suicidal so we should never say mean things ever?"

I don't know what's more insulting. The fact that you would exploit GFK's memory like that, or that you have the nerve to act repentant when you intentionally pulled this bullshit on us just now. Who the fuck do you think you are trying to "stop the bullying" when you do something like this? Did you for one moment consider that bringing up a deceased user, one whom has nothing to do with the subject at hand, would have a negative reaction?

If you wanted attention, congrats. You got it. I hope that this insignificant instance in your life is fulfilling.

Now kindly fuck off.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Now kindly fuck off.

That's all we needed.
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Ah, hey, speaking of trolls...
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Hrm?
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Dark Young Link posted...

Hrm?

Thanks for the analysis of the whole situation. I just didn't understand the culture well enough, I took things too literally.

I know this is an uncomfortable topic but I'm glad dialogue is possible.
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what the fuck
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Dels posted...

SuperNiceDog posted...

I've gotten bullied in the past month on here too, that's all. I know you guys don't really like me.

SuperNiceDog posted...

Maybe I'm the one that's depressed...

Is that what this topic is really about?

Demand an apology if you feel you deserve one. Stand up for yourself if you want to.

If you want to talk about your own issues, you can do that. People won't be mad as long as you're respectful.

I'd believe it. Kinda feel bad for SuperNiceDog because I don't think he actually is a troll account.
Wayyyy too much effort and enthusiasm for that.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

Not trying to excuse this topic but I do think it was a social blunder (like most stuff SND posts) more than something meant to be done maliciously.
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How many days until the contest is over?
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I'm sorry for calling this place a cesspool, I'm sorry for being a jerk at times, I'm sorry for disrespecting the dead in this topic. Maybe this is the first step.
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He's not a troll, he's just a naive person who didn't have a clue why what he said was disrespectful.

HarrietTubgirl posted...

Lmfao the OP was way too long to be satire

Lmfaoo

there's been Bel-Airs longer than that, it easily could be just based on length (i didn't read it though)
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There's only one way I could really believe he's not trolling, and if that's the case well then hey, okay, understood.
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Lopen posted...

I'd believe it. Kinda feel bad for SuperNiceDog because I don't think he actually is a troll account.
Wayyyy too much effort and enthusiasm for that.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

Not trying to excuse this topic but I do think it was a social blunder (like most stuff SND posts) more than something meant to be done maliciously.

you know maybe this is even true, and I'm certainly not thrilled to be a part of what is mostly people just telling him to fuck off and being pretty rude... I don't know how rude my statements are but I can say I deleted what I had initially typed in every case and tried to phrase it in a way that was less antagonistic.

all that being said I think it's pretty understandable that people's reaction is to be pissed off
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I guess this is what was bothering me too, Steiner+ Keltik attacked me on Discord.

Calling me dumb, stupid, when I never said anything negative towards them at the time. I couldn't understand why.
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maybe my reasoning was bad.
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Yeah not trying to say people are wrong to be upset. Just saying I feel bad for him and perhaps treating him like an actual person who is completely oblivious to what he speaks is the more suitable way to proceed than treating him as a troll account who must leave asap because I'm thinking he's probably not.
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well yes you shouldn't bring up sensitive topics without at least being properly informed about them
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Steiner was saying that to you repeating that you were longing for it to be acceptable to use gay as an insult for people again
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"you just fucking suck" that's pretty harsh, and I guess I appreciate that he was honest but still.

This happened before the BT stuff.
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Dels posted...

He's not a troll, he's just a naive person who didn't have a clue why what he said was disrespectful.

Which is why I have no enmity, because I'm a naive person who often sticks their foot in their mouth. Leon still hasn't forgiven me for something stupid I said years ago and it's starting to bug me because I agree with his opinions almost unilaterally and under most circumstances I'd expect him to be one of my closer friends here. Oh wait...his personality is also similar to mine, so it's no wonder we clash.

That's actually part of why I like Ulti. He was the first one to call me out on how stupid I was when I first came here, and he did it in a way that I had to just look back at myself and say "God, I was an idiot!"
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LeonhartFour posted...

well yes you shouldn't bring up sensitive topics without at least being properly informed about them

alright well he's got the memo now, lesson learned, so

he hasn't shown a penchant for being a quick learner in the past so trying to drive it home by repeating it isn't a bad idea
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Lopen posted...

Just saying I feel bad for him and perhaps treating him like an actual person who is completely oblivious to what he speaks is the more suitable way to proceed than treating him as a troll account who must leave asap because I'm thinking he's probably not.

Yeah sure that's fine, treat him like an actual person.

But most of the time when actual people say something like he did, they get harsh responses.
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SuperNiceDog posted...

Calling me dumb, stupid, when I never said anything negative towards them at the time. I couldn't understand why.

i mean

welcome to the internet

they shouldn't say those things, but still

this also, he gives BT this label on the Discord. This has to have a psychological impact no?
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I'm not judging any posts made here for harshness. Being upset is fine. I'm just saying some people are treating the guy like he's a troll account and I think he's not. That's it. Show your righteous indignation but do it for the right reason, that's all I'm saying. If you think he's an idiot and just like kicking idiots that's completely fine too.
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I guess I just really felt uncomfortable being in the discord today. I felt entertained at first... but then really sad.

Bt's comments and Extha+ XIII's responses... it just got to me.
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oh yea I definitely don't think he's a troll, actually Shad put it best a little while back in that he acts like someone on the board 10-15 years ago would act, and while the rest of you guys grew up he didn't

Also being homophobic is gonna get called out sorry, if that's bullying to him then \_()_/
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people call you dumb on discord because you are dumb

stop being dumb and we'll all be happier
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This happens all the time especially during contests, you should just take it easy. And while I don't think you're a troll, some of the stuff you say is not very smart and, well, just asking for hate.

SuperNiceDog posted...

I guess I just really felt uncomfortable being in the discord today. I felt entertained at first... but then really sad.

Bt's comments and Extha+ XIII's responses... it just got to me.

ok but don't conflate extha and xiii and BT's experiences with your own

they have thick skin

they can handle it

people shouldn't bully you, it just doesn't help when you try to make it about those other people

BT and extha are fine with it.

The way people talk to each other on this board is cruel, straight forward and honest (for better or for worse) I don't necessarily approve of it, but if you're going to stay on this board for any period of time longer than a contest you should know that that's just how you'll be treated. There's really no ill will from us, it's just how we communicate.
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they're fine with it, ok. I did not know that coming in. I really thought it was a culture of bullying, I haven't been back here since the 2015 contest(3 years), and it was NOT like that back then.

I won't feel sympathy for them. I'll try to say less stupid stuff going forward.
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MawiIe posted...

The way people talk to each other on this board is cruel, straight forward and honest (for better or for worse) I don't necessarily approve of it, but if you're going to stay on this board for any period of time longer than a contest you should know that that's just how you'll be treated. There's really no ill will from us, it's just how we communicate.

I truly think some people on this board are just jerks. But I don't go out of my way to argue with them and most others are nice, so it's fine for me.