Poll of the Day > Handheld games that have large gaps of time between save locations.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I hate this.

It needs to stop.

The gaming industry needs to get its shit together.

The only mobile game that I can think of (off the top of my head) is Ys Seven for the original PSP. It was probably the best handheld game I've ever played. Not only because it was fucking amazing....but also because it was one of the few handheld games that allowed you to literally save at anytime, anywhere, and the saving process took less than 3 seconds. It was just like: press start, go down to save, press x.....bam. Move the fuck on with your life. Catch the bus. Eat dinner. Hide your PSP under your desk before your teacher/boss/darklord sees.

But most other handheld games I've played require you to actually take your character to a physical save station of some kind in order to actually save.

And handheld games are more and more often designed as though they are console games....with long cutscenes, extensive dialogue, deep dungeons, puzzles, lengthy boss battles, etc........and you might only have a few opportunities to save. So playing on the go can become a nightmare.....because if you need to turn it off for any reason, you risk losing progress. A lot of progress.

Also, wtf is a darklord? Do you have a darklord in your life?
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This topic is bad IMHO
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JoanOfArcade posted...

This topic is bad IMHO

It's funny you should mention that. Because I think your vagina is pretty bad.
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Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina
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I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

Red_Frog posted...

I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

This just in save points worse than unskippable cutscenes and paid content
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JoanOfArcade posted...

Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina

Awww, you reported me? How cute. Just realize that you are the goof who pointlessly replied to this thread. Give trash = receive trash. Learn to take criticism of your vagina, otherwise don't participate in threads if you have nothing good to say ;)
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Red_Frog posted...

I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

Yup
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GreenKnight127 posted...

JoanOfArcade posted...

Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina

Awww, you reported me? How cute. Just realize that you are the goof who pointlessly replied to this thread. Give trash = receive trash. Learn to take criticism of your vagina, otherwise don't participate in threads if you have nothing good to say ;)

Or learn that people have different opinions then you instead of resorting to flaming? Much you look a lot less like a joke
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GreenKnight127 posted...

JoanOfArcade posted...

Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina

Awww, you reported me? How cute. Just realize that you are the goof who pointlessly replied to this thread. Give trash = receive trash. Learn to take criticism of your vagina, otherwise don't participate in threads if you have nothing good to say ;)

Jesus Christ, stop being so cringey. Fuckin' soyboy.
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JoanOfArcade posted...

GreenKnight127 posted...

JoanOfArcade posted...

Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina

Awww, you reported me? How cute. Just realize that you are the goof who pointlessly replied to this thread. Give trash = receive trash. Learn to take criticism of your vagina, otherwise don't participate in threads if you have nothing good to say ;)

Or learn that people have different opinions then you instead of resorting to flaming? Much you look a lot less like a joke

Why are you still here? lmao, pathetic troll
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GanglyKhan posted...

GreenKnight127 posted...

JoanOfArcade posted...

Better than any you've had also reported for flaming my vagina

Awww, you reported me? How cute. Just realize that you are the goof who pointlessly replied to this thread. Give trash = receive trash. Learn to take criticism of your vagina, otherwise don't participate in threads if you have nothing good to say ;)

Jesus Christ, stop being so cringey. Fuckin' soyboy.

Uh oh! Now it's getting serious!!! lmao
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GreenKnight127 posted...

Why are you still here? lmao, pathetic troll

I find this supremely ironic given your sig.
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keyblader1985 posted...

GreenKnight127 posted...

Why are you still here? lmao, pathetic troll

I find this supremely ironic given your sig.

Considering this is MY thread, it makes your comment even MORE ironic.

Lol!

Ohhh, Gamefaqs. You troll-infested swamp! How I love thee!
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Uh... I dont think all games are like that. Just because most of the games you play require you to save at save points doesnt mean all of them do. Also, handheld have built in sleep mode for this problem. For the DS/3DS, you literally just close the system. For the PSP, you just move the power button up for like a second.
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I can save in pokemon when ever I want.

Most handheld games also have a quick save function that can be accessed at anytime on top of the handhelds having sleep mode, this topic is still really bad
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GreenKnight127 posted...

But most other handheld games I've played require you to actually take your character to a physical save station of some kind in order to actually save.

Because you haven't played many games?
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I feel like this topic would have been much more relevant ~15 years ago, before the DS normalized sleep modes in handheld games. Forcing long gaps between saves still sucks, regardless of the platform, but it's not like the pre-DS days when your only options were turning it off (and losing your progress) or leaving it on and hoping the battery lasted until you got back and reached the next save point.

_AdjI_ posted...

I feel like this topic would have been much more relevant ~15 years ago, before the DS normalized sleep modes in handheld games. Forcing long gaps between saves still sucks, regardless of the platform, but it's not like the pre-DS days when your only options were turning it off (and losing your progress) or leaving it on and hoping the battery lasted until you got back and reached the next save point.

Uhh they've had quick save since the advance, games like Golden Sun the Final Fantasy releases and fire emblem
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Zeus posted...

GreenKnight127 posted...

But most other handheld games I've played require you to actually take your character to a physical save station of some kind in order to actually save.

Because you haven't played many games?

Hes too busy writing pedophilia hypotheticals.
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Yes, many handheld games did offer workarounds for those limitations, so even then it was only the occasional poorly-designed game that had a problem. It's just even less of a problem now that sleep modes exist.

Tc, what games in particular are you talking about?
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green dragon posted...

Tc, what games in particular are you talking about?

GBA: Stuck on an Island with Children, pt. 1
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Red_Frog posted...

I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

So all games should have the equivalent of save states then? In particular games being able to save just whenever kills any challenge to the game.
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As said, there have been games since the GBA that offer work arounds. Quick save (save. Turn off. Load that save and it erases itself upon loading).

And since the 3DS all handhelds have had a sleep mode either closing the system or hitting the power button briefly.

What spurred on this topic?
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Red_Frog posted...

I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

So all games should have the equivalent of save states then? In particular games being able to save just whenever kills any challenge to the game.

That's mistaking tedium for difficulty.

Red_Frog posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Red_Frog posted...

I have hated save points from the first time I ever encountered them. They are the zenith of bad design.

So all games should have the equivalent of save states then? In particular games being able to save just whenever kills any challenge to the game.

That's mistaking tedium for difficulty.

No it isn't. If I can literally save every two seconds I can just re load every time I get hit so I got full health when I get to the boss. Then I can in turn save after every hit I land on the boss so if I do lose I can load up my save and not have to fight the whole fight again.

It kills the challenge of certain games.

Some games you'll never hear me claim I beat them even though I did because I know I abused save states to accomplish it.
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JoanOfArcade posted...

this topic is still really bad

Coulda fooled me, considering how much yer posting in it, stink v ;)
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CacciatoPart3 posted...

Zeus posted...

GreenKnight127 posted...

But most other handheld games I've played require you to actually take your character to a physical save station of some kind in order to actually save.

Because you haven't played many games?

Hes too busy writing pedophilia hypotheticals.

Wait, YOU again? Accusing me of pedophilia again? Dude, didn't you rape a girl in 2011?!
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This only applies to Nintendo games because Nintendo, despite being in the market for 100+ years hasn't figured out what a sleep mode is.
Despite the PSP mastering it 15 years ago and mobile phones mastering it since their inception.
This is why Nintendo is a joke and only (man)children buy their stuff.
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Judgmenl posted...

Nintendo, despite being in the market for 100+ years hasn't figured out what a sleep mode is.

Does anyone else want to tell him, or shall I?

Did they finally figure it out with the switch?
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I'm gonna go for it. If you want in, now's your chance.

_AdjI_ posted...

I'm gonna go for it. If you want in, now's your chance.

You on the right thread?
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The DS had a fully-functional sleep mode when it came out, four months before the PSP. You're 15 years behind the times, dude.

The DS's sleep mode worked nothing like the PSP's and it's even more removed from how a mobile phone works.
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Judgmenl posted...

The DS's sleep mode worked nothing like the PSP's and it's even more removed from how a mobile phone works.

You literally just close the system. Its slightly different from the PSPs sleep mode. But theyre both similar. Idk know how its bad. I like it much better than PSP, tbh. You can just grab your system and open it.

Also, Idk what being in business 100+ years has to do with it, since video games havent been around for that long...
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I honestly forgot that the DS even had a sleep mode so my mistake there.
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_AdjI_ posted...

The DS had a fully-functional sleep mode when it came out, four months before the PSP. You're 15 years behind the times, dude.

Who?
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GreenKnight127 posted...

_AdjI_ posted...

The DS had a fully-functional sleep mode when it came out, four months before the PSP. You're 15 years behind the times, dude.

Who?

He was talking to Judgmenl in that post...
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Judgmenl posted...

it's even more removed from how a mobile phone works.

Modern mobile phones, maybe, but not the mobile phones of the time. Or have you forgotten that flip phones were a thing (and still are, if you look in my pocket)?

Judgmenl posted...

I honestly forgot that the DS even had a sleep mode so my mistake there.

You are forgiven.

Judgmenl posted...

I honestly forgot that the DS even had a sleep mode so my mistake there.

its almost like you were talking out of your ass like usual....
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_AdjI_ posted...

Modern mobile phones, maybe, but not the mobile phones of the time. Or have you forgotten that flip phones were a thing (and still are, if you look in my pocket)?

I miss my flip phone!!! It was the best conversation starter! People always teased me, or assumed I was a drug dealer. Had a flip for 10 years. Finally had to upgrade last summer because work related group texts with multimedia messages and emojis wouldn't display and caused my phone to get really hot and display jibberish. Now I have a cheap ass $30 smart phone. I hate it.
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My current flip phone is 7 years old and still going strong. The one I had before it was my mother's old one, and it stopped working (a little rubber pad near the microphone degraded and plugged up the hole, meaning I couldn't make calls on it) at the ripe old age of 13. My current one still works, so I still use it.

_AdjI_ posted...

My current flip phone is 7 years old and still going strong. The one I had before it was my mother's old one, and it stopped working (a little rubber pad near the microphone degraded and plugged up the hole, meaning I couldn't make calls on it) at the ripe old age of 13. My current one still works, so I still use it.

They truly are superior. Don't have to worry about cracked screens. They hold a charge for like a solid week! And texting was easier. I was like a machine sending Morse code with that sucker. And since you get that satisfying click with each number, you could text in the dark from memory of what characters each click would give you.
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Texting's definitely slower, but being able to do it blind is nice. All this talk about people wandering into streets or walls or tiger pits while texting just makes me laugh because I can watch where I'm going and text at the same time.

i dunno, the handhelds i use usually have a standby/sleep mode so i can pick up literally exactly where i left off, ok?

save locations are annoying, sure, but the 3 handhelds i still use (switch, 3ds & vita) all use standby/sleep modes, so i'm pretty good, tbh, ok?
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TheSlinja posted...

Judgmenl posted...

I honestly forgot that the DS even had a sleep mode so my mistake there.

its almost like you were talking out of your ass like usual....

Nah, I had a DS for many years and then moved to the 2DS which was a steaming pile of shit.
It did play 2 Pokemon games tho.
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I used to think that too, but now handhelds come with a sleep mode so it is kind of pointless to complain.
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