Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1302

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paulg235
11/13/18 7:42:14 PM
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ALL ABOARD THE ZELDA > SNAKE TRAIN CHOO CHOO

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_SecretSquirrel
11/13/18 7:42:47 PM
#2:


Choo choo!
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FlyingForever
11/13/18 7:43:29 PM
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DID you ask permission to make this topic?

How dare you
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OrangeCrush980
11/13/18 7:44:15 PM
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Hey, as long as Ulti doesn't make the majority of the topics its all good
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KamikazePotato
11/13/18 7:45:51 PM
#5:


Woah, Bayonetta.
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Not_Wylvane
11/13/18 7:47:35 PM
#6:


Good matches. Nice to see Zelda having all the reason in the world to boost and taking full advantage of it.
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xp1337
11/13/18 7:47:51 PM
#7:


how high can zelda go here geez
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The Owner of FF9
11/13/18 7:48:18 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
pjbasis posted...
Yikessssssss!!!!!

Zelda is gonna wreck sonic


That match probably won't happen this contest since Zelda faces Snake in the Legends Bracket, and that's an unwinnable match for Zelda. Zelda/Sonic could still happen if Auron upsets Sonic.

???

Snake > Zelda
Sonic > Auron

Snake > Sonic

[Loser's]
Zelda>Auron
Zelda vs. Sonic
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snake_5036
11/13/18 7:48:20 PM
#9:


zelda just slaughtering
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:49:27 PM
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Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.

The seeding is pretty bad in this whole thing. There are 1, 2 and 3 seeds I've never even heard of while characters like Sub Zero, Gordon Freeman, and Aeris are 10 or worse seeds. Why is Cloud not the 2 seed? Samus will not beat either Link or Cloud, so where was the logic there?
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Advokaiser
11/13/18 7:49:56 PM
#11:


Okay, that's it.

We should officially have a term called "FFPF" (Final Fantasy Protagonist Factor).

It is characterized by the main characters of their respective games have some kind of underperformance or for "choking" badly against stiff competition.
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The Owner of FF9
11/13/18 7:50:22 PM
#12:


My takeaways

1. Come on Geralt!
2. Very surprised to see Aeris winning convincingly so far.
3. All three women winning their matches so far today, in Round 3. Good year for female characters overall, it seems to me.
4. Seriously regretting my Auron > Zelda pick in loser's bracket right now.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:50:32 PM
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Dfy556 posted...
Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.


Where did you take that from
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Zylothewolf
11/13/18 7:50:36 PM
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Dfy556 posted...
Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.


It's a me..Mario..
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:51:16 PM
#15:


Geralt with another comeback.

This guy really doesn't have an easy match huh
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LusterSoldier
11/13/18 7:51:20 PM
#16:


The Owner of FF9 posted...
???

Snake > Zelda
Sonic > Auron

Snake > Sonic

[Loser's]
Zelda>Auron
Zelda vs. Sonic


Another way to get Sonic/Zelda is to have a result of Snake > Zelda and Auron > Sonic in round 1 of the Legends Bracket, which would create a Sonic/Zelda match in round 1 of the Loser Bracket.
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MarioSuperstar
11/13/18 7:51:51 PM
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Tf happened to Squall
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Mewtwo59
11/13/18 7:52:22 PM
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Probably the same thing that happened to Vincent
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:52:30 PM
#19:


All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:52:47 PM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.


Where did you take that from

Where did I take it from?
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KamikazePotato
11/13/18 7:53:01 PM
#21:


So this is the most shocking result of the contest, right? People were expecting a Zelda win but wow.
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SuperNiceDog
11/13/18 7:53:12 PM
#22:


how does it feel to be a drone
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:53:30 PM
#23:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud
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SuperNiceDog
11/13/18 7:53:50 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
So this is the most shocking result of the contest, right? People were expecting a Zelda win but wow.


Nah. By this point most expected a Zelda win.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:54:17 PM
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Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.


Where did you take that from

Where did I take it from?


Yes.

At the start of the contest the consensus was that Sephiroth is bottom N9 and Snake/Mario were fighting for #2.

Now the consensus is that MGS is looking like shit.

So explain where you did take that from, because your list of things that can beat Snake is a bizarre random list of characters that doesn't match either pre-contest stats nor current ones.
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WhiteLens
11/13/18 7:54:18 PM
#26:


RIP Fox only, Final Destination
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:54:36 PM
#27:


MarioSuperstar posted...
Tf happened to Squall


Yeah I always remember Squall doing very well. Not sure
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Mewtwo59
11/13/18 7:54:42 PM
#28:


SuperNiceDog posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
So this is the most shocking result of the contest, right? People were expecting a Zelda win but wow.


Nah. By this point most expected a Zelda win.


Yeah, a Zelda win, not a Zelda stomp.
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FSABot
11/13/18 7:55:17 PM
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If Geralt is at 48% at the end of the hour he has enough room to win base on the last 2 rounds.
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:55:20 PM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
Zelda will not beat Solid Snake. The only chars left who can take Snake are Sephiroth and whoever wins between Link and Cloud. I am surprised Zelda is winning, period.


Where did you take that from

Where did I take it from?


Yes.

At the start of the contest the consensus was that Sephiroth is bottom N9 and Snake/Mario were fighting for #2.

Now the consensus is that MGS is looking like shit.

So explain where you did take that from, because your list of things that can beat Snake is a bizarre random list of characters that doesn't match either pre-contest stats nor current ones.


Uh, it's my opinion? What does this even mean
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:55:22 PM
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Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats
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KamikazePotato
11/13/18 7:55:32 PM
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For the record, I don't buy that Sephiroth still isn't the bottom of the Noble Nine. His performance against Captain Falcon was okay.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:55:45 PM
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Snake lost to Samus in 2006. Why is Samus not in your list, for example?
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LusterSoldier
11/13/18 7:55:47 PM
#34:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because that would require a drop of epic proportions to go from number 2 just behind Link to being at the bottom of the Noble Nine.

Zelda would only really be capable of beating the bottom of the Noble Nine (Sonic, Mega Man, maybe Sephiroth depending on how weak he's gotten). I have no idea where Crono might be this year.
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SuperNiceDog
11/13/18 7:56:25 PM
#35:


Zelda would pwn Crono so hard right now.
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The Owner of FF9
11/13/18 7:56:37 PM
#36:


LusterSoldier posted...
The Owner of FF9 posted...
???

Snake > Zelda
Sonic > Auron

Snake > Sonic

[Loser's]
Zelda>Auron
Zelda vs. Sonic


Another way to get Sonic/Zelda is to have a result of Snake > Zelda and Auron > Sonic in round 1 of the Legends Bracket, which would create a Sonic/Zelda match in round 1 of the Loser Bracket.

So by "this contest," you meant the legends (winner's) bracket?
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:57:12 PM
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It would be a fall oif epic proportions, yes.

But it would match what we have seen from Big Boss, The Boss, Quiet and Ocelot.
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Dfy556
11/13/18 7:57:43 PM
#38:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats


Stats?

I have no idea what you're talking about. When I think popular playstation characters 8 think Cloud, Snake, Crash, Spyro, Squall... I don't have any stats dude, I played all the games. It's just my opinion based on how I feel about them
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xp1337
11/13/18 7:57:55 PM
#39:


LusterSoldier posted...
I have no idea where Crono might be this year.

runner-up after a hard fought match with link ending in a heroic, respectful handshake between the two
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TheCodeisBosco
11/13/18 7:58:06 PM
#40:


SuperNiceDog posted...
Zelda would pwn Crono so hard right now.


I wouldn't be so sure, Magus and Frog both looked really solid.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 7:58:35 PM
#41:


Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats


Stats?

I have no idea what you're talking about. When I think popular playstation characters 8 think Cloud, Snake, Crash, Spyro, Squall... I don't have any stats dude, I played all the games. It's just my opinion based on how I feel about them


This is Character Battle 10.

There are 9 contests before this one where Snake lost matches to characters other than the ones you have mentioned.

That's what "stats" means.
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LusterSoldier
11/13/18 7:59:08 PM
#42:


SuperNiceDog posted...
Zelda would pwn Crono so hard right now.


We haven't even seen Crono in action yet, so let's not jump to any conclusions on his potential strength before he has his first match this. Crono's match against Kirby/Bowser will give us an idea as to whether he can beat Cloud.

The Owner of FF9 posted...
So by "this contest," you meant the legends (winner's) bracket?


Both the Legends and Loser bracket.
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_SecretSquirrel
11/13/18 7:59:22 PM
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FSABot posted...
If Geralt is at 48% at the end of the hour he has enough room to win base on the last 2 rounds.

Geralts got one problem here. Hes not slaying in Europe like he was the last few rounds.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 8:00:18 PM
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Sorry my friend, I don't want to be rude, but if you come here saying "there is no way anyone but Link/Crono/Sephiroth beats Snake" you better show your evidence, because we have 16 years of evidence on this side.

Snake lost to Samus in 2006. Why can't he lose to her now?
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The Owner of FF9
11/13/18 8:00:28 PM
#45:


Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats


Stats?

I have no idea what you're talking about. When I think popular playstation characters 8 think Cloud, Snake, Crash, Spyro, Squall... I don't have any stats dude, I played all the games. It's just my opinion based on how I feel about them

You've essentially walked into a Chicago sports bar and declared "LeBron is the GOAT!"
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Dfy556
11/13/18 8:00:39 PM
#46:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats


Stats?

I have no idea what you're talking about. When I think popular playstation characters 8 think Cloud, Snake, Crash, Spyro, Squall... I don't have any stats dude, I played all the games. It's just my opinion based on how I feel about them


This is Character Battle 10.

There are 9 contests before this one where Snake lost matches to characters other than the ones you have mentioned.

That's what "stats" means.


I don't remember anything specific dude. I just remember it always comes down to Cloud vs Link. I'd have a hard time believing Zelda is more popular than Solid Snake.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/13/18 8:00:49 PM
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This match...

Honestly, I have no words for this. I can't even feel angry. I just feel like I've lost something very valuable because the contests are probably not for me anymore. I feel so, so disconnected from this Squall/Zelda result. I don't even know what to do with this. I'm just...numb. Has it ever happened to you guys before? Feeling like there isn't any reason to care for the contests anymore?
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Dfy556
11/13/18 8:01:24 PM
#48:


The Owner of FF9 posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Dfy556 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
All MGS characters have looked like shit in this contest and Zelda is looking like N9 right now.

Explain to me why can't Snake go back to being what he looked like pre-2013. And if so, why can't Zelda beat him.


Because he's Solid Snake? He's probably the biggest character from PlayStation that isn't Cloud


Based on what stats


Stats?

I have no idea what you're talking about. When I think popular playstation characters 8 think Cloud, Snake, Crash, Spyro, Squall... I don't have any stats dude, I played all the games. It's just my opinion based on how I feel about them

You've essentially walked into a Chicago sports bar and declared "LeBron is the GOAT!"


Lol. Shit. I wasn't aware. I thought this was just casual conversation
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ZeldaTPLink
11/13/18 8:01:27 PM
#49:


Crono is really hard to predict. I could see him losing to Kirby or beating Cloud.
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Lightning Strikes
11/13/18 8:02:01 PM
#50:


To be fair The Boss looks waaaaay better after Zelda just annihilating Squall like this. And if I told you pre-contest, "Big Boss gets 49% on Sora" you would probably go "yep sounds right to me". So I think MGS looking bad is not yet certain.
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