Poll of the Day > people of all genders can be pregnant now, ok?

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Aculo
10/10/18 5:07:14 PM
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if you thought it was only women, you're ignorant, and stay where you are, i've called the police, ok?

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dragon504
10/10/18 5:08:06 PM
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Mead
10/10/18 5:08:29 PM
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Next youll be claiming that dogs and otters can be pregnant
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Nichtcrawler X
10/10/18 5:09:18 PM
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This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.
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Aculo
10/10/18 5:09:19 PM
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Mead posted...
Next youll be claiming that dogs and otters can be pregnant

this is dangerous thinking, ok?
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rogerskg1979
10/10/18 5:59:34 PM
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Andromicus
10/10/18 6:01:00 PM
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rogerskg1979 posted...
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10/10/18 8:51:44 PM
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MannerSaurus
10/10/18 9:46:52 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.
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Judgmenl
10/10/18 9:51:58 PM
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Don't talk about that gender wage gap bs. Computer Science is a field which is like 90% dominated by men and everyone I've talked to has basically said they'd have no issue if more women went into Computer Science, and that is one of the highest paying professions and will be for the foreseeable future.
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MannerSaurus
10/10/18 9:54:59 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Don't talk about that gender wage gap bs. Computer Science is a field which is like 90% dominated by men and everyone I've talked to has basically said they'd have no issue if more women went into Computer Science, and that is one of the highest paying professions and will be for the foreseeable future.


I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's called the gender wage gap, not the sex wage gap. Because they are the same fucking thing and they are synonyms.
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wolfy42
10/10/18 9:57:52 PM
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Actually....could you transplant a womb? What about just the lower half of a body all together? They have done it with arms etc now right, so what if you transplanted the entire lower half of a person?

That is some sci-fi stuff right there. I think it would be better/easier to just download the electrical impusles etc that store a persons memories/personality and transport them over, replace them, seems easier.
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Judgmenl
10/10/18 10:01:10 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
Actually....could you transplant a womb? What about just the lower half of a body all together? They have done it with arms etc now right, so what if you transplanted the entire lower half of a person?

That is some sci-fi stuff right there. I think it would be better/easier to just download the electrical impusles etc that store a persons memories/personality and transport them over, replace them, seems easier.


The spine is a really finicky thing that can easily be permanently damaged / destroyed. I don't think we have the technology to fully heal it if it were cut off like that.
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minervo
10/10/18 10:03:30 PM
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I bet these people worship demons. I feel sorry for them, why's nobody helping these mentally ill people?
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papercup
10/10/18 10:15:12 PM
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I'm a man so I literally can never become pregnant. That's why I'm a man.
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wolfy42
10/10/18 10:19:22 PM
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papercup posted...
I'm a man so I literally can never become pregnant. That's why I'm a man.


What if a spider lays eggs in your ear?
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papercup
10/10/18 10:23:55 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
papercup posted...
I'm a man so I literally can never become pregnant. That's why I'm a man.


What if a spider lays eggs in your ear?


Would you really say I'm pregnant in that situation? I wouldn't.
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DPsx7
10/10/18 10:24:07 PM
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Neat. Asexual reproduction means we'd never have to hear about sex or kinky stuff ever again. Major +1 for the internet.
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Mead
10/11/18 3:25:58 AM
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papercup posted...
I'm a man so I literally can never become pregnant. That's why I'm a man.


I could get you pregnant
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Revelation34
10/11/18 3:29:09 AM
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Aculo posted...
if you thought it was only women, you're ignorant, and stay where you are, i've called the police, ok?

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No.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/11/18 10:49:10 AM
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if by all they mean 1/2
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Lokarin
10/11/18 10:51:59 AM
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I kinda envy woman for being able to have babies... I wanna have a baby. But I'm sure that's just my non-transitioning trans-brain pushing my biological imperitive
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Nichtcrawler X
10/11/18 10:52:47 AM
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MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.


Uhm, no. Science recognizes that our sex does not absolutely dictate our personality. It is just annoying they reused an already existing word to describe that concept of "gender".
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TLR_
10/11/18 10:53:14 AM
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dragon504 posted...
lmao, nutbars

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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:03:08 AM
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There are three sexes, not two. Male, female and intersex. Intersex is "several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that don't meet the typical definition for male or female bodies."

That is likely the catalyst for where the branching off of more than two genders came from. What gender is someone who has both a vagina and a penis? If there are only man and woman, you're very narrow minded. And they're still completely normal people. So maybe try to open up your mind a little bit.
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_AdjI_
10/11/18 11:11:28 AM
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wolfy42 posted...
Actually....could you transplant a womb?


There have been a few successful uterus transplants, though off-hand I don't know if they ended up being fully viable, and they were just into females. To transplant it into a male, you'd need to bring in the ovaries as well and remove the testicles, since otherwise you simply wouldn't have the right hormones for it to work. Some hormone replacement therapy beforehand would probably also be needed.

MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms.


Synonyms simply have similar meanings. They don't have to be identical in meaning, nor are they always freely interchangeable. You don't even have to look at other examples to demonstrate that; "sex" has many applications where "gender" simply would not be appropriate. You don't talk about people having gender, after all. As verbs, "to sex" and "to gender" are very different.

Historically, yes, "gender" has been primarily used as a substitute for "sex" in contexts where it would be considered impolite to say "sex." As it becomes better understood that there's more to sexual dimorphism than just physical characteristics, though, the trend has been toward using "sex" to refer to physical differences, and "gender" to refer to mental and social differences. Really, that's not an unreasonable evolution. Insisting that "gender" has to remain a largely-useless synonym of "sex" instead of allowing it to evolve like that really doesn't make much sense.

MannerSaurus posted...
we are a binary species.


Not really. There's a fairly broad range of conditions that can result in some degree of hermaphroditism, even without considering the psychological aspects. There are several different elements involved in physical sexual dimorphism, and while they're normally linked, it's not at all unheard of to have one or more of them not match the others. Generally, most people are going to fall neatly into being male or female, but that's not a reason to discount the feelings and experiences of those who don't.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:20:46 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
What gender is someone who has both a vagina and a penis? If there are only man and woman, you're very narrow minded. And they're still completely normal people. So maybe try to open up your mind a little bit.


Very narrow minded? I just live in reality. That's how chromosomes and sexual reproduction works. You pointing out the penis and vagina is my point. There's only two sex organs. There is receive and give. Sperm and egg. On or off. Dark or light. In and out. We. Are. A. Binary. Species. People can whine and whine about how they sexually identify as a Football Stadium, but facts and math don't care about your feelings and it has no actual basis in reality.
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:25:08 AM
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MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
What gender is someone who has both a vagina and a penis? If there are only man and woman, you're very narrow minded. And they're still completely normal people. So maybe try to open up your mind a little bit.


Very narrow minded? I just live in reality. That's how chromosomes and sexual reproduction works. You pointing out the penis and vagina is my point. There's only two sex organs. There is receive and give. Sperm and egg. On or off. Dark or light. In and out. We. Are. A. Binary. Species. People can whine and whine about how they sexually identify as a Football Stadium, but facts and math don't care about your feelings and it has no actual basis in reality.


Having a penis and vagina at the same time is the opposite of being part of the binary.
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KINDERFELD
10/11/18 11:26:59 AM
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Science has progressed to the point that both men and women can carry babies now.
I wouldn't necessary call it "getting pregnant" but 2 men can now biologically have a child that is made up both their DNA.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:28:42 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
What gender is someone who has both a vagina and a penis? If there are only man and woman, you're very narrow minded. And they're still completely normal people. So maybe try to open up your mind a little bit.


Very narrow minded? I just live in reality. That's how chromosomes and sexual reproduction works. You pointing out the penis and vagina is my point. There's only two sex organs. There is receive and give. Sperm and egg. On or off. Dark or light. In and out. We. Are. A. Binary. Species. People can whine and whine about how they sexually identify as a Football Stadium, but facts and math don't care about your feelings and it has no actual basis in reality.


Having a penis and vagina at the same time is the opposite of being part of the binary.


I think we're looking at the same thing from a different approach. The penis and vagina are still 2 structures, not a 3rd. You just have both of the sexual organs, that's still only two "both".
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:30:14 AM
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I just don't really think you understand the science of sex and gender.
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Mead
10/11/18 11:30:23 AM
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What is important is that we all have buttholes

The great unifier
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:30:40 AM
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Mead posted...
What is important is that we all have buttholes

The great unifier


This is true!
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RCtheWSBC
10/11/18 11:32:01 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Mead posted...
What is important is that we all have buttholes

The great unifier


This is true!

https://www.healthline.com/health/imperforate-anus
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:32:39 AM
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Man, foiled again!
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:37:50 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
I just don't really think you understand the science of sex and gender.


Sure I do: Gender is a synonym. The gender of an electrical or plumbling hook up is male or female. That's how it works. There's nothing to understand other than what some quack doctor made up. Look, I have close friends that are transgender, 3 actually, like post-op transgender, but that's still between two genders. It's not called "transsex" it's called "transgender." There is no operation to become an airplane. The operation is to go from male to female or female to male. It's not called "sex wage gap" it's called "gender wage gap". Because there are two genders and one is possibly making more money than the other for the same work. No one is studying if ... some imaginary 8th gender is making more money, it's either the male or female gender making more money.

I don't know why people think their imagination and feelings somehow impact reality. There's nothing wrong with feminine males or masculine females (which I guess is where you distinguish gender from sex, even though biological science does not) but they are still male or female. There is no 3rd gender. I like want to scream, this is MATH!!!!!!! A light switch is either on or off. You are either the sperm or egg. You are either male or female. You are either in or out. You don't have to think 1+1=2 in a 10 base decimal system, but it is and doesn't give a shit if you think it is or not. If a 90 year old man dying in his bed identifies as a young person alive, will that save him from his death? That's not how the real world works.

I'm arguing my point, by the way, not coming at you Miss Jen.
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:41:24 AM
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I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.
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Kyuubi4269
10/11/18 11:41:30 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Not really. There's a fairly broad range of conditions that can result in some degree of hermaphroditism

My male body isn't a physical affliction, hermaphroditism is.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:43:33 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.


Because mammals reproduce the same way. Electrical plugs were named (obviously) after the human genders. And also pointing out the math logic gate of it all. (Give or receive.)
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Nichtcrawler X
10/11/18 11:45:14 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.


Yes, his entire argument just makes it very clear language is still catching up to science and society.
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kangolcone
10/11/18 11:47:48 AM
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MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.


Good thing we are discussing gender as a social construct and not the end of electrical connections then, isnt it?
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:49:23 AM
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kangolcone posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.


Good thing we are discussing gender as a social construct and not the end of electrical connections then, isnt it?


Except that the human race and most (if not all) mammals are sexually handled the same way as electrical connections, whether you like it or not. I can racially identify as black, socially, and guess what? Tough shit. I'm not black.
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Andromicus
10/11/18 11:50:49 AM
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So this is implicitly saying that a transman having a child is a man having a child?
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:57:51 AM
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MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.


Because mammals reproduce the same way. Electrical plugs were named (obviously) after the human genders. And also pointing out the math logic gate of it all. (Give or receive.)


Just because something was named after an outdated theory doesn't mean anything. Human beings aren't electrical plugs. Society evolves.

As to your argument about other animals, other animals aren't as cognitively evolved as humans.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 11:58:37 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.


Because mammals reproduce the same way. Electrical plugs were named (obviously) after the human genders. And also pointing out the math logic gate of it all. (Give or receive.)


Just because something was named after an outdated theory doesn't mean anything. Human beings aren't electrical plugs.


So how do we reproduce? How does a human baby get formed? A sperm mixed with an egg, yes?
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Jen0125
10/11/18 11:59:37 AM
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Please see my edit. And you're mixing two arguments at the same time. Sex and gender are two separate things no matter how much you want them to be synonyms.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:00:17 PM
#47:


Jen0125 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I don't know why you keep comparing human beings to electrical parts.


Because mammals reproduce the same way. Electrical plugs were named (obviously) after the human genders. And also pointing out the math logic gate of it all. (Give or receive.)


Just because something was named after an outdated theory doesn't mean anything. Human beings aren't electrical plugs. Society evolves.

As to your argument about other animals, other animals aren't as cognitively evolved as humans.


What I'm really asking you is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-lia-FEIY" data-time="

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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:04:39 PM
#48:


Jen0125 posted...
Please see my edit. And you're mixing two arguments at the same time. Sex and gender are two separate things no matter how much you want them to be synonyms.


I want you to explain to me what you think gender is. You're saying some person could wake up, make up a 847th gender, and identify as that for a day/week/year? Make up is a really important concept here. I think these people are literally crazy, or using made-up genders as a coping mechanism to regain power over their lives because of the awful way some people treat the LBGT community, or to return a perceived power and control over their life that a sexual abuser in the past has taken away from them. Kind of like when homosexuals use the hateful *** word to take away the power from homophobic people using it as a slur, by diminishing its power over them.

My point is, this is all in peoples' heads. Gender is the same thing as sex. You can be anything you want to be in your own head, but that doesn't make it true. Like, what science is "I'm Armagadodonion today" based on, other than their own imagination?
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Jen0125
10/11/18 12:07:49 PM
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I'm not watching that video based on the thumbnail because it looks absolutely pointless.

And of course gender is in your head. Your gender is all about how you feel. It's your mental state. You keep coming to with these utterly ridiculous "genders" when most people are completely reasonable. You're using the Tumblr community version of the gender spectrum to mock completely legitimate people for no reason. It honestly doesn't matter how you feel because the science and mental health community say otherwise so your opinion, frankly, doesn't matter.

And you really need to look up the difference between sex and gender because they are not the same. To keep repeating it is really foolish.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:12:51 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I'm not watching that video based on the thumbnail because it looks absolutely pointless.

And of course gender is in your head. Your gender is all about how you feel. It's your mental state. You keep coming to with these utterly ridiculous "genders" when most people are completely reasonable. You're using the Tumblr community version of the gender spectrum to mock completely legitimate people for no reason. It honestly doesn't matter how you feel because the science and mental health community say otherwise so your opinion, frankly, doesn't matter.

And you really need to look up the difference between sex and gender because they are not the same. To keep repeating it is really foolish.


Science does not agree with you. A few quack psychologists do. Sex and gender are the same thing now matter how much you imagine they aren't. Next you will tell me race and skin color or something are different concepts, and that you can be transracial if you identify as a different race.

"Your gender is all about how you feel."

Again: Facts do not care about your feelings.
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