Poll of the Day > PS4 is on the fritz

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one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them
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Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

Then the 360 said 'hold my beer' and failed twice as much. Too bad it didn't have the long term sales.

PS2 was pretty reliable, my launch model still worked last time I used it. Solved the DRE twice just by cleaning the laser lens. Nobody ever thinks to clean their consoles.

Hadn't heard about any major unreliability issues with the ps2, or at least no problem large enough for that. Oo

My ps3 YLOD'd, though. I think it was my first system to ever truly breakdown. The ps3 slim (I *think* I got the slim or whatever) I bought to replace it never worked all that great.
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Zeus posted...

Hadn't heard about any major unreliability issues with the ps2

You spent some serious time living in a freaking cave if this is the case
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Disc Read Error for the PS2 which I had happen.
Then my PS3 60gig original bricked in 2012 and never came back up.
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DPsx7 posted...

Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

Then the 360 said 'hold my beer' and failed twice as much. Too bad it didn't have the long term sales.

PS2 was pretty reliable, my launch model still worked last time I used it. Solved the DRE twice just by cleaning the laser lens. Nobody ever thinks to clean their consoles.

and then the ps3 said "lol" and ylodded just as much as the 360 rrodded.
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Yeah the PS2 was notorious for disc read errors.
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The only time I've seen a ps2 go broke was when it was used as a DVD player. I've kept my lense clean and it works perfect.

The ps3 is finicky and sometimes doesn't want to load a game for me. For instance, my disc of The Last of Us will not install but a dozen other games will.

I don't have a ps4 yet because its still too new. The new Dragon Quest does call out to my nostalgia though.
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likehelly posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

Then the 360 said 'hold my beer' and failed twice as much. Too bad it didn't have the long term sales.

PS2 was pretty reliable, my launch model still worked last time I used it. Solved the DRE twice just by cleaning the laser lens. Nobody ever thinks to clean their consoles.

and then the ps3 said "lol" and ylodded just as much as the 360 rrodded.

Didn't happen. M$ was behind, rushed out a crappy platform, and that's why they're as useless as they are.

Firewood18 posted...

The only time I've seen a ps2 go broke was when it was used as a DVD player. I've kept my lense clean and it works perfect.

The ps3 is finicky and sometimes doesn't want to load a game for me. For instance, my disc of The Last of Us will not install but a dozen other games will.

I don't have a ps4 yet because its still too new. The new Dragon Quest does call out to my nostalgia though.

Might be the drive having trouble reading dual layer discs. I went through something like that where most games ran fine but a particular cutscene in DMC would always freeze.

DPsx7 posted...

Didn't happen. M$ was behind, rushed out a crappy platform, and that's why they're as useless as they are.

...except the ps3's ylod issue was a very real thing that happened.
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likehelly posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

Then the 360 said 'hold my beer' and failed twice as much. Too bad it didn't have the long term sales.

PS2 was pretty reliable, my launch model still worked last time I used it. Solved the DRE twice just by cleaning the laser lens. Nobody ever thinks to clean their consoles.

and then the ps3 said "lol" and ylodded just as much as the 360 rrodded.

False.

Okok, the PS2 probably was pretty reliable under normal use... but they were fragile. They were a console of glass.
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Mead posted...

You spent some serious time living in a freaking cave if this is the case

I only ever had one PS2.
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It acts like it's working. Disc ejected. But it's as if the internal HDMI functions are not working at all.

Lil69Leo posted...

likehelly posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

Then the 360 said 'hold my beer' and failed twice as much. Too bad it didn't have the long term sales.

PS2 was pretty reliable, my launch model still worked last time I used it. Solved the DRE twice just by cleaning the laser lens. Nobody ever thinks to clean their consoles.

and then the ps3 said "lol" and ylodded just as much as the 360 rrodded.

False.

It's true, it just wasn't regarded as big of a problem because it happened a little more down the system's life than the 360. It actually was worse for the consumers because MS actually took responsibility and gave the people extended warranties while Sony didn't give a fuck.
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Only launch PS2's had disk read errors, if you waited about 6 months or so then it was resolved. I have had my PS2 for 16 years (and got extremely heavy usage for 6 of those) and it only just started have drive issues.
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helIy posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Didn't happen. M$ was behind, rushed out a crappy platform, and that's why they're as useless as they are.

...except the ps3's ylod issue was a very real thing that happened.

'Didn't happen' meaning the XB set the worldwide record for failure rate. Ylod was a thing for some people. Not 60%.

lihlih posted...

It's true, it just wasn't regarded as big of a problem because it happened a little more down the system's life than the 360. It actually was worse for the consumers because MS actually took responsibility and gave the people extended warranties while Sony didn't give a fuck.

Don't try to sugarcoat it. M$ didn't give a damn about it until word started to spread about a 2/3 failure rate, at which point they were forced to offer a multi year warranty to save face. And even then the repair lines were long. Coupled with the thought that a refurb system would be untrustworthy, people ran out to buy a supposedly improved platform and dumped the refurb at GS.

Nin and Sony had way lower failure rates and stuck to the industry standard of charging for repairs. Not that I agree with the fees so if I ever run into trouble I clean it or fix at home. I'm proud to say I've only had a single console fail on me - an original PS1. Still have a launch PS2, 60gb PS3. Just gotta clean the dust out once in a while. Meanwhile I've never owned an XB.

FinalFantasyVII posted...

It acts like it's working. Disc ejected. But it's as if the internal HDMI functions are not working at all.

So no video at all? Try different settings? New cable? Other TV? You have to rule out what isn't the problem first.

Tried different combos of TVs and cords to no success.

DPsx7 posted...

FinalFantasyVII posted...

It acts like it's working. Disc ejected. But it's as if the internal HDMI functions are not working at all.

So no video at all? Try different settings? New cable? Other TV? You have to rule out what isn't the problem first.

Yeah try holding the power button for 7 seconds (until you hear two beeps), this will boot it up in safe mode. From there you should have a few options to tinker with. No matter what you do, DO NOT choose to "Initialize" - this will wipe your PS4 and restore it to factory settings. If all else fails, you could try this, but you'll lose everything you don't have backed up to another drive and/or cloud storage.

You may want to try to manually change your screen resolution. This may help with the issue you're having.
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tell fritz to be careful
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Far-Queue posted...

You may want to try to manually change your screen resolution. This may help with the issue you're having.

The TVs just say No Signal on the HDMI screen

FinalFantasyVII posted...

Far-Queue posted...

You may want to try to manually change your screen resolution. This may help with the issue you're having.

The TVs just say No Signal on the HDMI screen

Did you try what I said - Booting it in safe mode and changing the resolution from the safe mode menu? I've had that same issue ("No signal" message) and this worked for me.
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Topics like this remind me of why PS1 is the greatest console ever.
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HagenEx posted...

Topics like this remind me of why SNES is the greatest console ever.

I fixed that for you.
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Lokarin posted...

one of the reasons the ps2 was the top selling console was 'cuz they break so easily so everyone had like 3 of them

I did a volunteer thing in high school where we would go to foreclosed/abandoned homes and clear them out and found a launch PS2 whose expansion bay had become a home for a nice family of cockroaches. Thing still booted up and played whatever game was in there.
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Space_Man posted...

I did a volunteer thing in high school where we would go to foreclosed/abandoned homes and clear them out and found a launch PS2 whose expansion bay had become a home for a nice family of cockroaches. Thing still booted up and played whatever game was in there.

Why would somebody leave a console?
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keyblader1985 posted...

Yeah the PS2 was notorious for disc read errors.

Everyone should own a copy of Contra Shattered Soldier for testing their PS2. Game is notoriously hard to read. If your PS2 can run it, it should be able to run anything.
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DPsx7 posted...

lihlih posted...

It's true, it just wasn't regarded as big of a problem because it happened a little more down the system's life than the 360. It actually was worse for the consumers because MS actually took responsibility and gave the people extended warranties while Sony didn't give a fuck.

Don't try to sugarcoat it. M$ didn't give a damn about it until word started to spread about a 2/3 failure rate, at which point they were forced to offer a multi year warranty to save face. And even then the repair lines were long. Coupled with the thought that a refurb system would be untrustworthy, people ran out to buy a supposedly improved platform and dumped the refurb at GS.

Nin and Sony had way lower failure rates and stuck to the industry standard of charging for repairs. Not that I agree with the fees so if I ever run into trouble I clean it or fix at home. I'm proud to say I've only had a single console fail on me - an original PS1. Still have a launch PS2, 60gb PS3. Just gotta clean the dust out once in a while. Meanwhile I've never owned an XB.

no one is sugarcoating anything.

the ps3 ylodded just as much as the 360's has a rrod.

the difference being that it happened later down the line. people did care that sony made you pay the price of a new slim ps3 to fix it. coupled with the fact that it was mostly the PS2 BC enabled PS3's, and people were mighty pissed because it was the only way to keep having a ps3 with bc.

the funny thing was that it didn't happen that often in the EU, so sony used the EU failure rates in such a way to try and make everyone think that was the failure rate for all regions in total.

it backfired on them, btw

and no one cares that you've never owned an xbox before, i really don't understand why you keep trying to brag about that for some reason
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helIy posted...

no one is sugarcoating anything.

the ps3 ylodded just as much as the 360's has a rrod.

the difference being that it happened later down the line. people did care that sony made you pay the price of a new slim ps3 to fix it. coupled with the fact that it was mostly the PS2 BC enabled PS3's, and people were mighty pissed because it was the only way to keep having a ps3 with bc.

the funny thing was that it didn't happen that often in the EU, so sony used the EU failure rates in such a way to try and make everyone think that was the failure rate for all regions in total.

it backfired on them, btw

and no one cares that you've never owned an xbox before, i really don't understand why you keep trying to brag about that for some reason

No it didn't and don't act like it was. While I don't have numbers in front of me the PS3 failure was maybe half the 360, and Nin's rate is always in the single digits.

When it happened doesn't matter, we're looking at the percentage. I will agree and say most reports were for the 60gb model but that had a lot of extras in it.

M$ denied the RROD for years. Obviously all companies try to blame the consumer first but this was above and beyond. And it wasn't just that, there were problems with wifi or video chips I thought and disc scratching.

The important part is I don't let my consoles fail. A little maintenance is all it takes. Had I accidentally gotten a 360 then yeah it would be doomed from the start. Seriously though when you look at the games available I'm not sure why anyone would choose XB. Whatever though.