Poll of the Day > Man chases down and kills other man who stole his wallet

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Johnny Eagle posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Blighboy posted...

Crazy how posters praising law and order are defending a criminal.

the punishment didn't fit the crime at all

They're not the government, people don't have to uphold proportionate punishment, just as companies aren't bound by free speech.

but what he did was a crime, so he gets punished for it

Assault is a crime, but disproportionate punishment isn't.

Murder is, though.

You don't get charged for murder because it's a disproportionate penalty, you get charged for murder because it's an unacceptable act.

And you and the other guy are advocating for murder being allowed in response to someone's wallet being stolen >_>
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Guys, you can't chase down and kill a thief.
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I stole a comic book once when I was a kid. I guess the store owner would've been justified in beating me to death had he caught me


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Johnny Eagle posted...

And you and the other guy are advocating for murder being allowed in response to someone's wallet being stolen >_>

Murder is unlawful, I advocate for killing criminals.

Far-Queue posted...

I stole a comic book once when I was a kid. I guess the store owner would've been justified in beating me to death had he caught me

Somehow I doubt a comic book store owner wants a reputation as a child slayer.
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Kind of excessive should have just kicked his ass and waited for the cops to come.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Murder is unlawful, I advocate for killing criminals.

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GanglyKhan posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Murder is unlawful, I advocate for killing criminals.

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I want to have killing criminals at the scene of the crime to be legal?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Murder is unlawful, I advocate for killing criminals.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Somehow I doubt a comic book store owner wants a reputation as a child slayer.

Free market at work god bless
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Guys, you can't chase down and kill a thief.

Well, obviously you can. This guy did it

Kyuubi4269 posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Murder is unlawful, I advocate for killing criminals.

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I want to have killing criminals at the scene of the crime to be legal?

Glad you're not in charge.

Mead posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I think he should be given a pat on the back and sent on his way.

HagenEx posted...

Nice.

samuricex posted...

Nothing of value was lost except the time wasted on the thief.

dioxxys posted...

That'll teach him not to steal.....

What do you get when you combine pent up anger and impotent life choices

Outlooks like these

I'll take both of those and more over settling for an obese woman!
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Jesus Christ guys if he punched the guy to death he literally had flesh being ripped from his face from being beaten, shattered facial bones and so much blood that it was probably enough to drown him being face up. This guy probably literally changed the shape of this mans skull. Had he survived he would have needed facial reconstruction surgery.

No one likes a thief but at a certain point you got to notice "oh wow I could kill this guy or cause permanent brain damage".

Its not citizens jobs to deal out punishment for crime.

Probably should have stopped after the guy passed out.
Because you know, enough is enough.

Far-Queue posted...

I stole a comic book once when I was a kid. I guess the store owner would've been justified in beating me to death had he caught me

Stealing someones stock wouldn't be the same as stealing someones personal possessions. If you had said as a kid you stole someones wallet that would have been a better comparison.
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So if a child steals a wallet, it's perfectly acceptable to beat that child to death?

Fucking scumbag people in this topic. Wow.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I stole a comic book once when I was a kid. I guess the store owner would've been justified in beating me to death had he caught me

Stealing someones stock wouldn't be the same as stealing someones personal possessions. If you had said as a kid you stole someones wallet that would have been a better comparison.

So would he deserve to be beaten to death if he stole someones personal comic book?
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Mead posted...

So would he deserve to be beaten to death if he stole someones personal comic book?

If you steal someones personal possessions you deserve all you get. Would I personally go as far as to kill someone over something so trivial? Not deliberately simply because it's not worth the jail time and it's just a comic book to me. This doesn't mean I'm going to condone those that want to teach thieves a "lesson" nor do I think victims should be punished no matter what the law states. I thought I made my stance clear on this subject but apparently I didn't.
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Mead posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I stole a comic book once when I was a kid. I guess the store owner would've been justified in beating me to death had he caught me

Stealing someones stock wouldn't be the same as stealing someones personal possessions. If you had said as a kid you stole someones wallet that would have been a better comparison.

So would he deserve to be beaten to death if he stole someones personal comic book?

Maybe, if it was something like a copy of Action Comics #1 or something.
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The wallet thief initially violated the NAP. Fair
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wwinterj25 posted...

Mead posted...

So would he deserve to be beaten to death if he stole someones personal comic book?

If you steal someones personal possessions you deserve all you get. Would I personally go as far as to kill someone over something so trivial? Not deliberately simply because it's not worth the jail time and it's just a comic book to me. This doesn't mean I'm going to condone those that want to teach thieves a "lesson" nor do I think victims should be punished no matter what the law states. I thought I made my stance clear on this subject but apparently I didn't.

By that logic, why do we even have laws? If someone does something wrong the then the victim gets to decide whatever punishment they want, even if its far worse than what was done to them? That cant seriously sound like a good system to you, that kinda logic was decidedly abandoned in the dark ages.
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Mead posted...

By that logic, why do we even have laws?

Laws are supposedly there to bring order to how a country operates. Without them there will be chaos sure. This doesn't mean I must agree with every law that gets put in place or exists now.

Mead posted...

If someone does something wrong the then the victim gets to decide whatever punishment they want, even if its far worse than what was done to them?

As I said people who commit crimes don't get to decide their punishment.

Mead posted...

That cant seriously sound like a good system to you, that kinda logic was decidedly abandoned in the dark ages.

You're right. The law tends to protect criminals these days and punish the victims. This again doesn't mean I agree with it. If you commit a crime you deserve everything you get and that's a fair thought process in my book as the criminal is the one in the wrong to begin with. Had said criminal not decided to steal a wallet in this case then he would be still alive. Being as he decided to turn to crime I've no sympathy and the victim certainly shouldn't be punished as you know, they are the victim.
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even really fucked up places in the world don't kill someone for stealing. they might chop a hand off, but even they know killing is a crazy punishment.

wtf is wrong with some people here...
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Waaaah waaaaah... I'm not saying he should've been beaten to death but I'm also not gonna sit here and type out emotional rants crying for justice for a thief. As far as I'm concerned, the world is better off with one less thief but I'm also betting most people here havent been robbed

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.
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Mead posted...

By that logic, why do we even have laws? If someone does something wrong the then the victim gets to decide whatever punishment they want, even if its far worse than what was done to them?

We have laws to enforce punishment when the victim is incapable of seeking it out themself. Even the weak deserve to get retribution.

Far-Queue posted...

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.

The thief was willing to shoot you in the face for non-compliance, that's what's worth killing them over.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.

The thief was willing to shoot you in the face for non-compliance, that's what's worth killing them over.

A threat does not necessarily imply the will or intent to make good on said threat.
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Far-Queue posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.

The thief was willing to shoot you in the face for non-compliance, that's what's worth killing them over.

A threat does not necessarily imply the will or intent to make good on said threat.

While I dont advocate beating someone to death for stealing a wallet... robbing at gunpoint is on a whole different level. Those who rob people at gunpoint should be killed. When left alive, they're left to keep victimizing others

Far-Queue posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.

The thief was willing to shoot you in the face for non-compliance, that's what's worth killing them over.

A threat does not necessarily imply the will or intent to make good on said threat.

Oh well then rape can only be physically forced as threats apparently don't mean anything, even when done by a criminal with a gun in your face.

Did you just ignore his threat since he's only threatening and that doesn't imply intent to carry it out?
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OhhhJa posted...

When left alive, they're left to keep victimizing others

Prisons are a thing.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

I've been robbed at gunpoint, and still wouldn't want the thief dead. Over a few lousy dollars? No one needs to die over a little money.

The thief was willing to shoot you in the face for non-compliance, that's what's worth killing them over.

A threat does not necessarily imply the will or intent to make good on said threat.

Oh well then rape can only be physically forced as threats apparently don't mean anything, even when done by a criminal with a gun in your face.

What? That's quite the leap. Where did I say threats don't mean anything?

Did you just ignore his threat since he's only threatening and that doesn't imply intent to carry it out?

No, because like I already said, no one needs to die over a few dollars. He may not have carried through with his threat, but it wasn't worth dying for me to find out.
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Far-Queue posted...

Prisons are a thing.

Sure but often times, probably the overwhelming majority of times, they don't get caught. And who will they victimize next? A guy with his wife and 5 year old? That's pretty traumatizing for a child. Best case scenario, an armed robber gets shot and killed. They're dangerous regardless of whether they originally intend to carry out a threat

I can tell a lot of these posters spend time commenting on r/watchpeopledie
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Mead posted...

I can tell a lot of these posters spend time commenting on r/warchpeopledie

Or maybe they just dont like robbers? Also I dont visit reddit. I'm only nerdy enough for one nerd site

CacciatoPart3 posted...

LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

Decoy77 posted...

If he was in CA he would get a slap on the wrist and sent on his way. They are cool with murder, in particular if you are an illegal that's been deported a bunch of times and kill someone in broad daylight. But he is in LA so might get 2nd degree or a manslaughter charge.

CA requires you to have a CA drivers license to drive in their state.

Probably if you're a resident, like most states.

I can have an Arizona or New Jersey license and drive in CA or be a visitor from Canada/Mexico/any other country and drive in CA.
The officer was enforcing the law claiming that only people with California licenses are allowed to drive in California.
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Far-Queue posted...

No, because like I already said, no one needs to die over a few dollars. He may not have carried through with his threat, but it wasn't worth dying for me to find out.

They need to die for making you feel at risk of death. A vicious beating with heavy bleeding would also make him fear for his life.
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I can feel at risk of death crossing a busy street.

Guess everyone driving on that road needs to die
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That's clearly murder and not manslaughter.
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