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Dikitain
08/08/18 5:58:25 PM
#51:


DPsx7 posted...
Dikitain posted...

Proof for your claim?

Here is proof that Half Life 2 has achievements:

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/HL2/achievements


You're not listening. They were added years later.


Irreverent. Steam works offline, and you can't prove otherwise.
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TallTamryu
08/08/18 6:17:26 PM
#52:


Dikitain posted...
you can't prove otherwise.

Don't say that to DSP, he'll try for hours if somebody will argue back.
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Revelation34
08/08/18 6:53:10 PM
#53:


adjl posted...
We've been over this. If a publisher wanted to stop you from playing a copy of their game, owning a physical copy wouldn't protect you from that. It's easier with digital, yes, but in practice that'd just mean you'd be slapped with a lawsuit if you continued to play the game, rather than being able to revoke access directly. It is no less illegal to distribute copies of a physical game than it is a digital one. Digital's just easier to enforce.


You still own the game in that case anyway especially when it comes to physical releases. A company wouldn't have a legal right to do that. Distributing physical copies of a game is different since that would be bootlegging.

DPsx7 posted...
I did. Steam. Haven't you been keeping up on the topic?


Nah you clearly didn't use any malware.
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adjl
08/08/18 6:56:31 PM
#54:


DPsx7 posted...
Who said there was a warning?


If it was on the box, you were notified that Steam would be installed. Not Valve's fault you didn't bother to research what you were installing to see if you'd like it.

DPsx7 posted...
They can't touch me or my discs/carts.


We've been over this. It's in the EULA; your usage rights may be revoked at any time. Will they do so arbitrarily? Of course not, because it'd be highly impractical (especially where you're so paranoid as to cloister yourself away like you do) and do more harm than good with the bad press it'd generate (also true of digital), but they are legally entitled to it.

DPsx7 posted...
I did because the Doom 3 PC was old and the following PC was built around the time of Quake 4, Fear, and Serious Sam 2. There wasn't anything wrong with the system.


So you had the spare RAM and therefore nothing to complain about.

DPsx7 posted...
Great, then I'm telling you how it worked since you weren't there.


And I'm telling you how it works since you aren't here. I'll accept that it may have been a problem for you, but that problem's been fixed.

DPsx7 posted...
If they didn't tell us what it was doing to our PC


Can you name a single commercially-available program that tells you everything it does to your PC?

DPsx7 posted...
I'm not applying anything.


You've defined malware (as you see it). By stating a definition, you are applying the label of "malware" to anything which fits that definition. Ergo, in your eyes, a number of OS's can qualify as malware.

DPsx7 posted...
It didn't.


It did. Trust me, I've actually used it since 2006.
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likehelly
08/08/18 9:02:01 PM
#55:


DPsx7 posted...
I never wanted anything running in the background when I was gaming, no matter how little resources it used. Rather than keep my PC top of the line I'd just turn down the settings if I got something more demanding. You shoulda saw me playing Doom 3 on my Win ME system. None of the enemies had any textures.

this right here proves you know absolutely nothing about computers.

if you had nothing running in the background, you weren't going to be able to play a game, let alone use the computer. you would be sitting at a blank fucking screen, or the bios screen.

that's without mentioning that doom 3 doesn't work on windows me.

Revelation34 posted...
. A company wouldn't have a legal right to do that.

read the legalese paper in the case. they absolutely do.

the odds of them actually enforcing that is slim to none, though, just like the odds of your digital game being taken away is also slim to none.
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DPsx7
08/08/18 9:13:20 PM
#56:


Dikitain posted...
DPsx7 posted...
Dikitain posted...

Proof for your claim?

Here is proof that Half Life 2 has achievements:

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/HL2/achievements


You're not listening. They were added years later.


Irreverent. Steam works offline, and you can't prove otherwise.


You can't prove anything either (such as when they were added). Your word versus mine and I know for a fact it didn't work simply because my internet was out. The whole game would not load, not just a warning about awards.
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Mead
08/08/18 9:18:59 PM
#57:


Only I may prove things
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DPsx7
08/08/18 9:33:57 PM
#58:


adjl posted...
If it was on the box, you were notified that Steam would be installed. Not Valve's fault you didn't bother to research what you were installing to see if you'd like it.

We've been over this. It's in the EULA; your usage rights may be revoked at any time. Will they do so arbitrarily? Of course not, because it'd be highly impractical (especially where you're so paranoid as to cloister yourself away like you do) and do more harm than good with the bad press it'd generate (also true of digital), but they are legally entitled to it.

So you had the spare RAM and therefore nothing to complain about.

And I'm telling you how it works since you aren't here. I'll accept that it may have been a problem for you, but that problem's been fixed.

Can you name a single commercially-available program that tells you everything it does to your PC?

You've defined malware (as you see it). By stating a definition, you are applying the label of "malware" to anything which fits that definition. Ergo, in your eyes, a number of OS's can qualify as malware.

DPsx7 posted...
It didn't.


It did. Trust me, I've actually used it since 2006.


Key word is 'if'. Think I hid the box knowing I'd never touch it again. The research was to ensure it would run. Answer me this - do all games list the malware/DRM included on the disc? I seem to recall some other nasty software that caught people off guard.

I think fear of backlash is enough to say they won't. I know what I can and can't do with the game. The code isn't mine but that copy is.

That's not the point. I didn't want software running in the background causing my game to hiccup.

Well at least we're getting somewhere.

This goes back to my previous question to you. I doubt software boxes explain everything, meaning I was blindsided by what Steam would eventually do.

Ah, no. I described why Steam meets all the requirements of being malware. Malware can do much more. Nor am I applying it to anything else because the focus is Steam. You're not going to sidetrack this topic trying to rationalize the mistakes Valve made.

I used it too, trust me that everything above is no lie. While we're at it, why does this bother you so much? Steam is trash, that's great. For someone who wonders why I talk about Steam so much you're dragging this out longer than it needs to. On my end I'm tired of having to edit the quotes to avoid a tree bigger than New Jersey.
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CacciatoPart3
08/08/18 9:35:02 PM
#59:


This dude is so fucking weird.
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DPsx7
08/08/18 9:44:11 PM
#60:


likehelly posted...
DPsx7 posted...
I never wanted anything running in the background when I was gaming, no matter how little resources it used. Rather than keep my PC top of the line I'd just turn down the settings if I got something more demanding. You shoulda saw me playing Doom 3 on my Win ME system. None of the enemies had any textures.

this right here proves you know absolutely nothing about computers.

if you had nothing running in the background, you weren't going to be able to play a game, let alone use the computer. you would be sitting at a blank fucking screen, or the bios screen.

that's without mentioning that doom 3 doesn't work on windows me.

Revelation34 posted...
. A company wouldn't have a legal right to do that.

read the legalese paper in the case. they absolutely do.

the odds of them actually enforcing that is slim to none, though, just like the odds of your digital game being taken away is also slim to none.


I know more than you do. Obviously I mean unnecessary things. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns. Finally played it the right way on the next PC.

Wow you're dumb. We've already seen digital games disappear. I mean you could lose everything if you don't have access to your account, online services shut down, or the hardware fails. PT was free but that's long gone. The concern is how easily digital can be lost. Do you trust companies that much? The odds are higher they take your digital stuff remotely than someone coming to take your physical discs.
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likehelly
08/08/18 9:49:15 PM
#61:


DPsx7 posted...
. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns.

nope. it did not run on anything older than windows xp.

DPsx7 posted...
We've already seen digital games disappear

to buy. people who already own it can still redownload them.

DPsx7 posted...
I mean you could lose everything if you don't have access to your account

i mean you could lose everything if someone broke in and stole all your stuff. or a fire could start. or they could just decay, like disc rot.

DPsx7 posted...
online services shut down

which hasn't happened yet. unless you mean server based games like MMO's or for multiplayer, which effects both physical and digital.

DPsx7 posted...
or the hardware fails

this is applicable to everything, physical or digital.

DPsx7 posted...
PT was free but that's long gone.

pt is the exception to this, and it's because of konami who, if you haven't been following along with, isn't really a very good company anymore.

DPsx7 posted...
The odds are higher they take your digital stuff remotely than someone coming to take your physical discs.

the odds are actually the same.
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sveksii
08/08/18 10:44:21 PM
#62:


Dunning-Kruger Effect...
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DPsx7
08/08/18 10:46:08 PM
#63:


Dude, give up. You're wrong in all ways.

It's not listed as running on ME but it did. Would be funny if it's still on that PC.

I listed a few ways you can lose access. Learn to read.

Yeah those are the typical lines given in defense of digital. Thing is those are under my control to prevent. Digital gives other people power over what, where, and when I play.

Sure it has. The DS and Wii services aren't working anymore. Servers for online games have shut down turning them into coasters. Maybe you don't play very much.

Discs will work in a replacement console. Good luck swapping a HDD in a modern one.

PT is a good example of what's possible. It may not happen soon, but digital is not future proof enough. I'm aware of what they've done. Give me some credit.

Not even remotely.
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adjl
08/08/18 10:48:04 PM
#64:


DPsx7 posted...
I think fear of backlash is enough to say they won't.


You think there wouldn't be just as much backlash if companies started arbitrarily revoking digital games?

DPsx7 posted...
Ah, no. I described why Steam meets all the requirements of being malware. Malware can do much more. Nor am I applying it to anything else because the focus is Steam.


You are asserting that Steam is malware because it meets all of the requirements you're listing. The logical extension of that is that anything else which meets the requirements you're listing is also malware. If something else which meets those requirements is not malware, then you can no longer conclude that Steam is malware based on those requirements. That's just how logic works. You can't choose when to apply or not apply logic.

DPsx7 posted...
I used it too, trust me that everything above is no lie.


Not since the incident in question you haven't. I'm willing to believe that you had a game catastrophically glitch out on you, especially that long ago (historically, PC gaming hasn't been the most stable thing out there). That's not the issue here. The issue is your refusal to accept that computer things change in over a decade, and that Steam is now a very stable, user-friendly distribution and DRM platform. All this paranoid nonsense about malware and infections is just ridiculous.
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likehelly
08/08/18 11:01:35 PM
#65:


DPsx7 posted...
It's not listed as running on ME but it did. Would be funny if it's still on that PC.

it didn't.

DPsx7 posted...
I listed a few ways you can lose access. Learn to read.

i do believe i explained how you're wrong there, too. learn to read.

DPsx7 posted...
Yeah those are the typical lines given in defense of digital. Thing is those are under my control to prevent. Digital gives other people power over what, where, and when I play.

i'd love to learn how you'd prevent someone from breaking in. or a fire happening, or decay happening.

decay is an interesting thing, actually, in that it cannot be prevented. it's a constant.

DPsx7 posted...
Sure it has. The DS and Wii services aren't working anymore. Servers for online games have shut down turning them into coasters. Maybe you don't play very much.

the ds has no digital games, and you can still download your digital games on the wii.

servers for online games is true, but again, that effects both physical and digital games.

DPsx7 posted...
Discs will work in a replacement console. Good luck swapping a HDD in a modern one.

it's actually very easy to swap HDDs in a modern console.

you literally just take the old one out and put a new one in.

DPsx7 posted...
I'm aware of what they've done. Give me some credit.

this is the only fair thing you've said so far.

DPsx7 posted...
Not even remotely.

it is 100% the exact same, because neither scenario has happened yet to set an example.
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Red_Frog
08/08/18 11:03:45 PM
#66:


likehelly posted...
DPsx7 posted...
. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns.

nope. it did not run on anything older than windows xp.

http://rmathew.com/2004/doom-3-on-windows-98.html
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likehelly
08/08/18 11:06:36 PM
#67:


lmao you had to trick the game into doing it

and looking into it, it ran incredibly poorly to the point that it just wouldn't work at all

so great, it really did not work on anything before windows xp.
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Kyuubi4269
08/08/18 11:06:55 PM
#68:


Red_Frog posted...
likehelly posted...
DPsx7 posted...
. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns.

nope. it did not run on anything older than windows xp.

http://rmathew.com/2004/doom-3-on-windows-98.html

it needed "GlobalMemoryStatusEx" from kernel32.dll, which is available only in Windows 2000 and XP.

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Mead
08/08/18 11:07:37 PM
#69:


I installed steam and it robbed the federal reserve and did 7/11
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Red_Frog
08/08/18 11:09:12 PM
#70:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Red_Frog posted...
likehelly posted...
DPsx7 posted...
. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns.

nope. it did not run on anything older than windows xp.

http://rmathew.com/2004/doom-3-on-windows-98.html

it needed "GlobalMemoryStatusEx" from kernel32.dll, which is available only in Windows 2000 and XP.

You should try reading, it helps.

Suffice it to say that I did manage to get it running well enough in the end! So Doom 3 can run on Windows 98 (and perhaps 95 and ME), but doesn't because of some sloppy coding on iD's part
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likehelly
08/08/18 11:10:22 PM
#71:


Red_Frog posted...
You should try reading, it helps.

you should try reading other peoples experiences with it, it helps.
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Red_Frog
08/08/18 11:19:15 PM
#72:


likehelly posted...
Red_Frog posted...
You should try reading, it helps.

you should try reading other peoples experiences with it, it helps.

I mean, I did. I seem to be the only one that did.
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likehelly
08/08/18 11:22:17 PM
#73:


clearly you only read that one, then

you can search the doomworld forums, all kinds of people reporting game crashings, or failure to outright start, on windows me using that trick.
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PuddingBoy
08/08/18 11:23:38 PM
#74:


terrisus is back from the dead?
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Dikitain
08/08/18 11:24:41 PM
#75:


DPsx7 posted...
Dikitain posted...
DPsx7 posted...
Dikitain posted...

Proof for your claim?

Here is proof that Half Life 2 has achievements:

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/HL2/achievements


You're not listening. They were added years later.


Irreverent. Steam works offline, and you can't prove otherwise.


You can't prove anything either (such as when they were added). Your word versus mine and I know for a fact it didn't work simply because my internet was out. The whole game would not load, not just a warning about awards.

But I proved that they exist, which make my claim a lot more credible then yours. If it is just your word, then you are already behind me because at least I am using actual data rather then assumptions about a game you played 14 years ago on a system that was woefully under-powered to play it, then never touched again after what was likely only an hour or so.

Hell, if you REALLY want, I can link to my account showing proof that I not only own the game but that I have every single achievement for it, meaning that I have WAY more experience in the matter then you do. But I don't need to because I already won this argument.
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Red_Frog
08/08/18 11:25:26 PM
#76:


likehelly posted...
clearly you only read that one, then

you can search the doomworld forums, all kinds of people reporting game crashings, or failure to outright start, on windows me using that trick.

I'm sure not everyone that ever tried got it to work, but it working even once proves it ran on something older than XP.
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likehelly
08/08/18 11:26:31 PM
#77:


he probably wouldn't click a link to steam for fear of infecting his computer with super malware

and if it was a picture he would just say you photoshopped it, or also refuse to look at it because it could give his computer turbo viruses
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Dikitain
08/08/18 11:32:34 PM
#78:


Red_Frog posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Red_Frog posted...
likehelly posted...
DPsx7 posted...
. The OS had to be there of course. Oh it does work. Just not very well. The final boss fight ran at like 10 FPS because of all the spawns.

nope. it did not run on anything older than windows xp.

http://rmathew.com/2004/doom-3-on-windows-98.html

it needed "GlobalMemoryStatusEx" from kernel32.dll, which is available only in Windows 2000 and XP.

You should try reading, it helps.

Suffice it to say that I did manage to get it running well enough in the end! So Doom 3 can run on Windows 98 (and perhaps 95 and ME), but doesn't because of some sloppy coding on iD's part

I mean at that rate, you are better off just running the game in Linux since it is a free OS and ID actually supports it (and still works great on modern flavors):

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/playing-doom-3-on-linux-in-2017.10561
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adjl
08/08/18 11:40:26 PM
#79:


likehelly posted...
and if it was a picture he would just say you photoshopped it,


He has actually done literally this before, when he was trying to deny the mere existence of an offline mode and somebody showed him a picture of the option.
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DPsx7
08/09/18 2:03:26 AM
#80:


adjl posted...


You think there wouldn't be just as much backlash if companies started arbitrarily revoking digital games?

You are asserting that Steam is malware because it meets all of the requirements you're listing. The logical extension of that is that anything else which meets the requirements you're listing is also malware. If something else which meets those requirements is not malware, then you can no longer conclude that Steam is malware based on those requirements. That's just how logic works. You can't choose when to apply or not apply logic.

Not since the incident in question you haven't. I'm willing to believe that you had a game catastrophically glitch out on you, especially that long ago (historically, PC gaming hasn't been the most stable thing out there). That's not the issue here. The issue is your refusal to accept that computer things change in over a decade, and that Steam is now a very stable, user-friendly distribution and DRM platform. All this paranoid nonsense about malware and infections is just ridiculous.


Now you're being stupid too. Please educate yourself before trying to argue with me.

There was. People fought with Nin to back up their saves. Users tried to recreate PT. Players of WoW tried to run their own retro server too I believe. Pay attention sometimes, k?

Once more - Steam is malware. OS's are not and aren't the focus of the topic. Stop trying to switch the subject.

Software that bad doesn't change for the better. I don't see discs for PC games. If it still does what it did then it's malware. Plain and simple. Software should never block a game because the internet is down.
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DPsx7
08/09/18 2:13:40 AM
#81:


likehelly posted...

it didn't.

i do believe i explained how you're wrong there, too. learn to read.

i'd love to learn how you'd prevent someone from breaking in. or a fire happening, or decay happening.

decay is an interesting thing, actually, in that it cannot be prevented. it's a constant.

the ds has no digital games, and you can still download your digital games on the wii.

servers for online games is true, but again, that effects both physical and digital games.

it's actually very easy to swap HDDs in a modern console.

you literally just take the old one out and put a new one in.

it is 100% the exact same, because neither scenario has happened yet to set an example.


OMG, why do you keep trying and failing? We feel embarrassed for you...

It did, be quiet.

Not adequately.

Uh, security? Taking pictures? Common sense (which you lack). Decay is not a concern for CD's, we've been over that too.

*sigh* Yes, look up the DSi dumbass.

The drive gets formatted when you swap. How can you not know?

It's not even close and after reading your answers here I don't think you're ever going to provide a useful argument or anything that makes sense. Return to your cubby of ignorance. Shoo!
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DPsx7
08/09/18 2:19:34 AM
#82:


likehelly posted...
clearly you only read that one, then

you can search the doomworld forums, all kinds of people reporting game crashings, or failure to outright start, on windows me using that trick.


It wasn't clean but it worked. I can verify it was mostly playable even if my PC didn't match the recommended specs.

Funny how you'll believe a few random stories about Doom crashing but as soon as I say Steam fucked an entire game and platform, you make excuses.
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Zeus
08/09/18 2:21:54 AM
#83:


Can I get a tl;dr version of what this discussion morphed into?
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likehelly
08/09/18 2:23:11 AM
#84:


DPsx7 posted...
OMG, why do you keep trying and failing? We feel embarrassed for you...

eh, i'd say we feel more cringe with you than anything resembling embarrassment

DPsx7 posted...
It did, be quiet.

it didn't, but you keep trying.

DPsx7 posted...
Not adequately.

that could sum up all your claims, lmao.

DPsx7 posted...
Uh, security? Taking pictures? Common sense (which you lack). Decay is not a concern for CD's, we've been over that too.

none of those can or will prevent anything definitively. i'm also not sure how taking pictures is going to let you play something, but whatever. as for decay, it absolutely is a concern, we've been over it, yes, by proving you wrong on all accounts as per usual.

DPsx7 posted...
*sigh* Yes, look up the DSi

what about the dsi?

you specifically said the ds and wii, the dsi is not the ds. which is moot anyways, since you can get all your dsiware games on the 3ds.

DPsx7 posted...
The drive gets formatted when you swap. How can you not know?

you mentioned nothing about formatting of any kind. you simply said swapping of hdds is impossible. literally, "Discs will work in a replacement console. Good luck swapping a HDD in a modern one." is what you said. it's not my fault you didn't specify, or rather, it's not my fault you tried moving goalposts once again.

DPsx7 posted...
It's not even close and after reading your answers here I don't think you're ever going to provide a useful argument or anything that makes sense. Return to your cubby of ignorance. Shoo!

you need to take your own advice, bud
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DPsx7
08/09/18 2:23:41 AM
#85:


I laugh at the lengths you'll all go through to avoid being wrong. It must suck, especially when I'm the one you're losing to. I can imagine the rage. Keep trying though.
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likehelly
08/09/18 2:24:58 AM
#86:


DPsx7 posted...
Funny how you'll believe a few random stories about Doom crashing but as soon as I say Steam fucked an entire game and platform, you make excuses.

i tend to believe multiple people who actually provide proof to something, rather than one dude who has a history of lying out of his ass making outrageous claims with absolutely no proof, especially about something i actively use.

i'm still waiting for you to tell us how much you pay for your bundled phone service, too, so
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DPsx7
08/09/18 2:26:18 AM
#87:


Zeus posted...
Can I get a tl;dr version of what this discussion morphed into?


A bunch of know-nothing trolls are trying their best to keep up with my knowledge. They aren't being successful.
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likehelly
08/09/18 2:29:05 AM
#88:


Zeus posted...
Can I get a tl;dr version of what this discussion morphed into?

dikitain, adjl, and i, as well as a few others, keep proving dpsx7 wrong on everything he tries claiming, while providing actual proof to back us up, while he sticks his fingers in his ears and just screams "wrong wrong wrong" while not actually being able to provide any proof to his claims

it's pretty sad the lengths some people go to avoid facing the truth that they're wrong, but dpsx7 is just one of those guys i guess.
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chelle
08/09/18 2:33:57 AM
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Keep it up guys, this is good.
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TallTamryu
08/09/18 2:36:44 AM
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You know you're angry and upset when you make like 3 posts in a row instead of editing any of them.

Looky, I found DPs trying steam years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEQZ_4V7NY" data-time="

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Revelation34
08/09/18 2:47:49 AM
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DPsx7 posted...
Now you're being stupid too. Please educate yourself before trying to argue with me.

There was. People fought with Nin to back up their saves. Users tried to recreate PT. Players of WoW tried to run their own retro server too I believe. Pay attention sometimes, k?

Once more - Steam is malware. OS's are not and aren't the focus of the topic. Stop trying to switch the subject.

Software that bad doesn't change for the better. I don't see discs for PC games. If it still does what it did then it's malware. Plain and simple. Software should never block a game because the internet is down.


malware
noun
mass noun

Software that is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain unauthorized access to a computer system.

Inb4 Oxford is a shit dictionary.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/malware

TallTamryu posted...
You know you're angry and upset when you make like 3 posts in a row instead of editing any of them.

Looky, I found DPs trying steam years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEQZ_4V7NY" data-time="


Macs can't play games though.
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Jen0125
08/09/18 2:59:16 AM
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Revelation34 posted...

Macs can't play games though


I play games on my Mac :)
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CacciatoPart3
08/09/18 5:00:24 AM
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This dumbass might actually be worse than Erik.
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green dragon
08/09/18 8:01:10 AM
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CacciatoPart3 posted...
This dude is so fucking weird.

What's more weird is that people try to argue with him thinking that they can get him to renege on what his posted.

He's shown that he won't
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Far-Queue
08/09/18 8:14:57 AM
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likehelly posted...
he probably wouldn't click a link to steam for fear of infecting his computer with super malware

and if it was a picture he would just say you photoshopped it, or also refuse to look at it because it could give his computer turbo viruses

lol

This dude is a total tinfoil hat type.

"Oh no! Running software is using my resources! Must be malware!!"
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Dikitain
08/09/18 9:57:24 AM
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green dragon posted...
CacciatoPart3 posted...
This dude is so fucking weird.

What's more weird is that people try to argue with him thinking that they can get him to renege on what his posted.

He's shown that he won't

I wouldn't say I am trying to get him to renege, I just like watching him crash and burn. You know, like how if you pass a car accident on the street you HAVE to slow down and see how bad it is no matter how late to work you are.
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DPsx7
08/09/18 10:44:27 AM
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You wasted enough of my time yesterday editing replies. I made my case on multiple things and clearly a few of you don't know what you're talking about. (Doom 3, DSi, HDD swapping, etc). Why must I repeat myself if none of you learn anything. Everyone can see you're in the wrong here. No need to pretend otherwise.

It's too hot for this shit, when is winter gonna get here... That's stressing me out more than your nonsense will. Let's see how much more appears today.
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Mead
08/09/18 10:49:00 AM
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I am right, I can tell by the way I am
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CacciatoPart3
08/09/18 1:06:02 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
You wasted enough of my time yesterday editing replies. I made my case on multiple things and clearly a few of you don't know what you're talking about. (Doom 3, DSi, HDD swapping, etc). Why must I repeat myself if none of you learn anything. Everyone can see you're in the wrong here. No need to pretend otherwise.

It's too hot for this shit, when is winter gonna get here... That's stressing me out more than your nonsense will. Let's see how much more appears today.

Are you 600 lbs? Who breaks a sweat making posts?
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adjl
08/09/18 1:23:12 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
There was. People fought with Nin to back up their saves. Users tried to recreate PT. Players of WoW tried to run their own retro server too I believe. Pay attention sometimes, k?


Nintendo and Blizzard didn't arbitrarily revoke games. Updating WoW is not destroying people's games, people just get butthurt that their FotM class gets nerfed. Making digital purchases system-based instead of having a proper account system to allow transfers between systems was a dumb move on Nintendo's part, but it wasn't arbitrarily revoking them. And PT was just one more reason Konami's so universally hated by the gaming community now, so that exists as a cautionary tale against any other company doing the same.

DPsx7 posted...
Once more - Steam is malware. OS's are not and aren't the focus of the topic. Stop trying to switch the subject.


I'm not switching the subject, I'm using your definition for malware. Many operating systems can fit your definition of malware. That means you have to do one of three things:

-Accept that you also consider operating systems to be malware (in which case we laugh at you and then also sob a little because Windows 10)
-Explain - using solid, well-reasoned logic - how operating systems do not in fact fit your definition
-Amend your definition to be less broad and vague and apologize for being so arrogantly confident of something so silly

"Steam just is malware we're not talking about OS's" will not be accepted as a valid rebuttal to this point, and will be interpreted as you choosing the first option. Anything other than the latter two options will be interpreted as you choosing the first option.

DPsx7 posted...
Software that bad doesn't change for the better.


Citation needed. Good luck, since proving such an absolute negative is pretty much impossible.
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