Board 8 > Survivor/BB/TAR Summer Topic 2 - .H@CKER//

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ok that was a great answer by rockstar
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Rockstar, shut up.
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Rockstar's completely right. Angela IS a privileged, spoiled little bitch, and the only reason she's still in the house is because she's hot, and Tyler hooked up with the "hot white people and Kaycee" alliance week one.
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He's allowed to align with whoever he wants.
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He's allowed to hook up with whoever he wants, yes. But that doesn't mean Angela's spoiled ass gets to act like she's hot shit because Tyler saved her ass from, let's face, it, a complete L6 slaughter.
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But the entire alliance had been running circles. They didnt know Kaycee was aligned with them until last week. And now Brett is playing free agent. It really is more than just Tylee.
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Inviso posted...

Rockstar's completely right. Angela IS a privileged, spoiled little bitch, and the only reason she's still in the house is because she's hot, and Tyler hooked up with the "hot white people and Kaycee" alliance week one.

But hes not with haleigh
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Andy got a tweet on the show!
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Peridiam posted...

Andy got a tweet on the show!

Yeah, I am freaking out. That one actually worked! This made my week that much better, xD

Seriously awesome.
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Oh sweet. What was it?
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X_Dante_X posted...

ok that was a great answer by rockstar

if this was about "who do you feel betrayed by most" then yes this was perfect
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Oh, my tweet was just a generic "Keep the blindsides coming! This season has been so fun!" sort of thing. I do believe that, but I worded it in a way it'd get on by design. And it worked!
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the randy bailey method
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Good for you man.

The Randy method is the only way. If you're too specific they arent going to show you
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HoH spoilers:

In what may be the shortest slip n slide comp ever it sounds like the HoH is going to be .... Fessy!
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First strategy talk from Fessy is suggesting he is saying "fuck I'm make a big move" and he's gonna put Brett and Tyler on the block straight up. Make them beat him in veto. If either of them win HoH he'll put Sam up as the replacement because he doesnt think he'll go home.

If you're a L6 person. BEST case scenario is that that Brett or Tyler wins veto and he puts Sam up cause she'll go.

If you're anti-L6 then just hope for a fessy sweep week and Brett will likely go home.
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Hahahaha, Faysal is actually considering ignoring Tyler/Angela/Kaycee in order to nominate Brett/Scottie. AKA the two other guys close to Haleigh. These fucking people...
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I watched that scene. He IS going to ignore Angela/Kaycee. He knows those two are coming after them and they suck at comps. He wants to make a "big move" and go after the boys in the middle who aren't consistently on their side. Hayleigh talked him down on Scottie so it is likely to be Brett/Tyler.
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(These are feeds spoilers)
mnkboy907 posted...

Hahahaha, Faysal is actually considering ignoring Tyler/Angela/Kaycee in order to nominate Brett/Scottie. AKA the two other guys close to Haleigh. These fucking people...

If he does this, FOUTTE will be forever etched in stone as the worst alliance of all time. How many flashing neon signs can one group miss? Rockstar called them out but didn't realize Brett was with them - and after her eviction making it all too obvious, they're STILL not going to do anything? Wow. L6 left a big clue no different than the Moving Company in BB15 with the Steve blindside in Week 1, but Kaitlyn's smokescreen allowed them to cover their tracks. There was also no MVP twist to open the door for a shot. Even so... they've done so many terribly stupid things that they'd be unable to pull the trigger. Le sigh.
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I was thinking about it, and while A. Tyler is an amazing player that has spent weeks tearing Foutte apart from the inside, this week is a lot to do with B. JCs game making no goddamn sense. JC sucks at comps outright and was only close last week because no one wanted to waste a turn on him. As such, he should want the house divide to continue so both sides gun for each other. Despite this, hes actively working to hurt the weaker alliance, despite the fact that Fessy is his friend and is a lot less threatening than L6. It boggles the mind that hed play this way. Hes burning social capital on moves that dont benefit his position at all.
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Yeah, the noms are totally gonna be Brett and Scottie. In the past 90 minutes Fessy told Tyler, Angela, and Kaycee they're safe this week so long as they don't do any funny business with the veto. Haleigh's not particularly happy about it but Fessy just keeps telling her to have faith and that what they've been doing before hasn't worked so they have to try a new strategy. This is amazing. These people deserve to be steamrolled, lol.
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Oh God. Scottie is probably going home!
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For maximum enjoyment this week, I want Haleigh to win veto and not use it..
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Finally watched and yeah I really think the Rockstar hatred is overblown.

Like, why does she get chastised for assuming that she's safe and being cocky and yet L6 gets a free pass doing the exact same thing? At least Rockstar was personable and genuine with Kaycee.

Good on her for exposing Tyler on her way out the door. He probably still wins, but at least people are finally picking up on that and starting to take shots at him. The upside is that he doesn't play as well under heat. He gets super frustrated and I have a feeling that's going to start leading to some social game mistakes, which could result in less-than-stellar jury management.

The only way Brett or Angela wins now is if they are up against each other in the F2, which wont happen. It's like they dont even know the jury has started yet. Brett had the absolute perfect excuse to be fake-nice to Rockstar in his goodbye video and say something like he couldn't get the votes, but instead he had to take one last shot and throw away a jury vote.

At this point, barring anything insane, I am almost certain that the F4 will be Tyler/Angela/Kaycee/Sam (I'm banking on FOUTTE squeezing out one last HoH and Tyler saving Angela over Brett), and Tyler wins it.

Faysal destroying the sink in the HoH room was one of the best moments of the season so far. I laughed so damn hard.
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Underleveled posted...

Finally watched and yeah I really think the Rockstar hatred is overblown.

Like, why does she get chastised for assuming that she's safe and being cocky and yet L6 gets a free pass doing the exact same thing?

Unlike them, Rockstar is 1) racist, 2) the one labeling people as "spoiled brats" when she can't see she is one herself, and 3) probably the ugliest person ever on Big Brother. It's not her cockiness. It's her entitlement complex, hypocrisy, and bigotry.

mnkboy907 posted...

Haleigh's not particularly happy about it but Fessy just keeps telling her to have faith and that what they've been doing before hasn't worked so they have to try a new strategy. This is amazing. These people deserve to be steamrolled, lol.

Well, it happened. Fessy made those boneheaded nominations. Scottie is a goner this week unless he wins Veto. FOUTTE is the worst alliance of all time and it's not even close. Yes, even worse than the Regulators, who at least had two okayish players who simply had bad luck.

Tyler or Kaycee wins this over Angela in the end. It's very clear that Level 6 will continue to constantly blindside the oblivious idiots that comprise FOUTTE. It's going to be absolute GOLD to see the jury house if Scottie walks in and says he went out on Faysal's HOH without a H@CK3R twist in play.
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They will not keep Sam that long. She's a liability.
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Oh God. I just read Andy's spoiler. That's something else
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Underleveled posted...

she get chastised for assuming that she's safe

if we're specifically talking about this, L6 at least has a basis to believe they're safe. Rockstar has been blindsided every other week and hasnt learned from it
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This season is just really difficult to enjoy. You have one alliance that's actually interesting (because they show emotions), but they're been psychologically destroyed (or are so naturally stupid) that they keep getting picked off week after week. Then you have the other alliance that's playing a close-knit game and making few mistakes, but they've never suffered any REAL setbacks, so they become more and more arrogant and obnoxious, while remaining inert and boring in perfect UTRN/MORN harmony. I KNEW that Angela winning HoH would kill the season, and I was right.
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thanks ulti
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As much as I dont want this to work, I give JC a lot of credit if it does.
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why would JC want to do this anyway? if Scottie goes, then he's one step closer to being a target of level 6. whereas he's pretty much never going to be a target of Fessy/Hayleigh, so as someone playing the middle, getting a level 6 out this week is better for him.

or maybe he knows it won't work, but will gain trust with level 6 by trying it?
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JC doesnt know L6 is a thing.
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oh right. that makes a lot more sense then.
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Hes great at manipulation and wins a lot of people over but hes about in the dark as the rest of them. I can see why he think its a good move, hes winning people over and gaining allies, Scottie is the #1 person targeting him (which is the case), but yeah, in the big picture hes just one step closer to his eviction date at the hands of L6. Plus he cant win comps (although he throws most of them), which means I dont expect him to get out of the corner hes unintentionally backing himself into.
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There are just no more words for how frustrating this season is.
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Shut.

The.

Fuck.

Up.

Brett.
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If you find enjoyment out of a lot of the people in the cast, it's not frustrating at all. There's a lot of great TV every week this season. Most people are loving it, from hardcore fans to casuals. I'm disappointed we might get that steamroll after all, but so far it's been really great.
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The steamroll is on unless Scottie can somehow pull out a veto win, the back half of the game is shaping up to be a snoozefest.

I'm aware that Scottie lost the veto and is going this week.
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leafer 21 posted...

The steamroll is on unless Scottie can somehow pull out a veto win, the back half of the game is shaping up to be a snoozefest.

I'm aware that Scottie lost the veto and is going this week.

I'm still hoping they can mist Fessy into nominating Haleigh and she goes because holy fuck what.
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mnkboy907 posted...

leafer 21 posted...

The steamroll is on unless Scottie can somehow pull out a veto win, the back half of the game is shaping up to be a snoozefest.

I'm aware that Scottie lost the veto and is going this week.

I'm still hoping they can mist Fessy into nominating Haleigh and she goes because holy fuck what.

i've barely been following the season but i looked at feed updates today and saw people were even trying that and I just went wait what

there's no way that happens and its just desperation right
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Its just desperation/craziness from Scottie and Sam, Haleigh isn't going up
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AUGH FESSY WHY JESUS CHRIST

This season is masochism to me, I love it so much cause that side is beyond terrible but it hurts so bad
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I think TV gave JC too much credit. He's been saying Scottie since last week.
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Peridiam posted...

If you find enjoyment out of a lot of the people in the cast, it's not frustrating at all.

The funny thing is I actually do. I have enjoyed, on some degree, even if just by circumstances, 12/16 of the cast. The problem is that the four that I DON'T like are the ones steamrolling over the season. Also note my choice of words - "frustrating," not "bad."
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What's frustrating is that FOUTTE sucks - L6 has been misting them brilliantly. I've made this analogy before, but this is basically a Mafia game. Tyler is Godfather with Angela/Brett/Kaycee being his scumbuddies (Winston and Rachel weren't scum, hence why they were evicted). The town this game is so inept and keeps accusing itself of being scum, even when Rockstar's eviction made the team obvious. One more town lynch and scum wins.

If you've ever played Mafia, you know how paranoid and accusatory town gets. That's why this house is filled with paranoia - except for L6. They know who each other are. They're working together in brilliant fashion. And it's quite the sight to watch. That said, Angela is mean but kind of flat - again, she lacks any of the traits of a good villainess. Tyler is likable but bland. Kaycee is just kinda there. Brett is epic entertainment but really bad at jury management. And yet, he might still win.

The season has been good because of the side vs. side drama, but even so the H@CK3R twist put an end to that. When Kaycee won that, it was over. Haleigh would've lynched scum had that twist not occurred. And we'd have had a more exciting endgame for it. This is why more twists isn't necessarily good. Why can't we go back to food and luxury competitions? Food for the week for the whole house (day by day, pass/fail, or team vs. team). Get rid of the Have Not Room entirely. Luxury for a movie screening, a feast, a 1-on-1 with a juror... the stuff they used to have but no longer do. Nothing expensive like a car is necessary!

Sigh...
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I would argue Angela is a good villain, though that incorporates what I've gleaned from the live feeds. I'm not sure how much the edited show has fleshed out her villain persona outside of just saying mean things in the DR.
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From just watching the edit and getting very few tidbits of info from feed, my opinion of Angela is that she is too underedited and just the wrong amount of nasty to be a good villain.
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Yeah, my problem with Angela is that A. Shes the type of bitchy mean girl that only talks shit behind someones back (which is a fine strategy in a social game, but its BORING), B. Shes extremely monotone in her delivery, so even her bitchiness lacks the charisma and energy of, say, Brett, for example, and C. Its looking less and less likely that shell receive a satisfying comeuppance for her alleged villainy.
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final 2 of survivor rankings
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