Poll of the Day > Article 11 and 13 was passed. Goddammit Europe...

(+) Yeah! (+)

Welp I guess internet is ruined then.
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Good. I wanna see things shook up. This will be great. Life before the Internet was so much better.

At least om not a person how usually upload anything on the Internet.
I just hope making posts on a generic game forum isn't getting involved in this.
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GanglyKhan posted...

Life before the Internet was so much better.

You really think so?
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RIP Europe.
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GanglyKhan posted...

Life before the Internet was so much better.

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Life before the Internet was so much better.

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Yeah, I hate using all my stuff to make my life better.
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Let's just completely cut the EU off from our internet until their owners smarten up.

C-Raine posted...

Let's just completely cut the EU off from our internet until their owners smarten up.

Seriously. No reason for the rest of us to get screwed over, too.
When google and others just go dark throughout Europe, see how long those laws last.

Is New Zealand part of "europe" as far as this (and MEGA) is concerned?
Seems to me that all that really changes is piratebay moving to a different TLD again.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is New Zealand part of "europe" as far as this (and MEGA) is concerned?
Seems to me that all that really changes is piratebay moving to a different TLD again.

Article 13 means that we(normal people) can't upload anything whether it's a video on YouTube or an image on imgur without the file going through a filter to check if the file in question has a license attached to it in order for us to be allowed to upload it.
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LeetCheet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is New Zealand part of "europe" as far as this (and MEGA) is concerned?
Seems to me that all that really changes is piratebay moving to a different TLD again.

Article 13 means that we(normal people) can't upload anything whether it's a video on YouTube or an image on imgur without the file going through a filter to check if the file in question has a license attached to it in order for us to be allowed to upload it.

Which will become irrelevant as soon as some "sharing" site creates some sort of encrypted uploader.

Lol why would they do this
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Mead posted...

Lol why would they do this

'Murrica: Let's go lay siege on Kim Dotcom's house!
Europe: Hey, hold my wine.

And I thought our internet problems were stupid
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I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law
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Ogurisama posted...

I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law

This would be the perfect finisher for the EU.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Ogurisama posted...

I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law

This would be the perfect finisher for the EU.

What would probably happen is force the EU to reverse the law if anything
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Ogurisama posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Ogurisama posted...

I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law

This would be the perfect finisher for the EU.

What would probably happen is force the EU to reverse the law if anything

It's happened before.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/new-study-shows-spains-google-tax-has-been-a-disaster-for-publishers/

Questionmarktarius posted...

LeetCheet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is New Zealand part of "europe" as far as this (and MEGA) is concerned?
Seems to me that all that really changes is piratebay moving to a different TLD again.

Article 13 means that we(normal people) can't upload anything whether it's a video on YouTube or an image on imgur without the file going through a filter to check if the file in question has a license attached to it in order for us to be allowed to upload it.

Which will become irrelevant as soon as some "sharing" site creates some sort of encrypted uploader.

Exactly, which makes this whole thing entirely pointless from the get go.
Why are we even getting this shit?
The people in charge are getting so old and out of touch with the modern age.
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Ogurisama posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Ogurisama posted...

I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law

This would be the perfect finisher for the EU.

What would probably happen is force the EU to reverse the law if anything

And it would be too late, considering the fractures already in place due to their overreach.
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GanglyKhan posted...

Good. I wanna see things shook up. This will be great. Life before the Internet was so much better.

Life before social media was better.
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So this was happening while John Oliver and NPR were busy running another few hatchet jobs on Trump? tbh, the collective media outlets use Trump as a distraction so they can not cover the dark shit happening across the world. (Of course, if Trump gave a shit, all he'd have to do is tweet about it and the media would be forced to acknowledge it.)

streamofthesky posted...

C-Raine posted...

Let's just completely cut the EU off from our internet until their owners smarten up.

Seriously. No reason for the rest of us to get screwed over, too.
When google and others just go dark throughout Europe, see how long those laws last.

We could try, but they'd just pass a law against it! But seriously, those companies wouldn't be willing to forgo even a few days' worth of profits to make a point.

Mead posted...

Lol why would they do this

Because they hate our freedoms.

Ogurisama posted...

I am seeing a few people saying that major sites may start to blacklist EU ip addresses so they can ignore the law

I would love for that to happen, because it's the perfect unintended consequence of bad legislation.
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idk zeus. i mean they're both terrible, but kidnapping children is a little darker than controlling the internet probably.
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But if American sites start to blacklist EU ip addresses then I(and other Europeans) wouldn't be able to post on GameFAQs anymore : (
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Zeus posted...

those companies wouldn't be willing to forgo even a few days' worth of profits to make a point.

Paying to vet fucking memes nobody is paying to upload is financially reckless.
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LeetCheet posted...

But if American sites start to blacklist EU ip addresses then I(and other Europeans) wouldn't be able to post on GameFAQs anymore : (

And thats when you guys revolt!
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LeetCheet posted...

But if American sites start to blacklist EU ip addresses then I(and other Europeans) wouldn't be able to post on GameFAQs anymore : (

Competent sysadmins can block POST actions from IP ranges.
Competent

DirtBasedSoap posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Life before the Internet was so much better.

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

There is an argument to be made that the worst thing that ever happened to humans was the Agricultural Revolution. It's immediate impact resulted in lowered life expectancy and increased daily labor time, and one of its long-term results was the domestication of multiple animal species - and the transfer of dozens of diseases from animals to humans.

In the even longer term, it paved the way for theft, war, oppression, overpopulation, pollution, and over-exploitation of resources.

Worst of all, for all of our assumptions that life is better now, we can't even say that we're arguably happier as a species than we were before "civilization" was a thing.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

In the even longer term, it paved the way for theft, war, oppression

looooooool
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Worst of all, for all of our assumptions that life is better now, we can't even say that we're arguably happier as a species than we were before "civilization" was a thing.

The alternative, of course, is barely living past 30, then getting eaten by a bear or something.

Questionmarktarius posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Worst of all, for all of our assumptions that life is better now, we can't even say that we're arguably happier as a species than we were before "civilization" was a thing.

The alternative, of course, is barely living past 30, then getting eaten by a bear or something.

Live fast, die young.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Live fast, die young.

Leave a bear-mauled corpse.

god damn up the punx!

Questionmarktarius posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Worst of all, for all of our assumptions that life is better now, we can't even say that we're arguably happier as a species than we were before "civilization" was a thing.

The alternative, of course, is barely living past 30, then getting eaten by a bear or something.

Eat, sleep, fuck, die before your body falls apart.

Sounds great to me honestly.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

In the even longer term, it paved the way for theft, war, oppression

looooooool

Whether or not you agree with the implications, it's pretty well established that the concept of private property and personal possessions mostly stemmed from social changes rooted in the adoption of a stationary lifestyle. Purely nomadic hunter-gatherers tend to keep communal property (which means there's nothing to steal), and because they were constantly on the move they would rarely fight over land or resources (no war).

Most social stratification also stems from property ownership - you can't have conflict between the haves and the have nots if everyone shares everything, and no one can afford to hoard more than they can easily carry from place to place. Also, in a tribal group where everyone is expected to pull their own weight, you don't really have gender inequality (patriarchal societies didn't really come into being until settlements made pure physical strength and military might a positive trait).

So yes, like it or not, most of what we consider the evils of modern humanity all trace back to the point where we decided to stop moving and start building. The question of whether or not all the positives we got in exchange outweigh the negatives is an entirely different question, but there really isn't a debate over how those concepts came into being in the first place.



Questionmarktarius posted...

The alternative, of course, is barely living past 30, then getting eaten by a bear or something.

Higher infant mortality rates pulling down the average aside, individuals in hunter-gatherer societies can easily live into their 60s.

But the real question is a matter of quality of life. Which is better - 30 great years, or 70+ years of slowly creeping stress and existential dread?

Keep in mind, I'm not saying life was absolutely better 10,000 years ago. But I AM saying that a lot of the things we currently accept make our lives worse didn't exist before agriculture and settlements came into being.


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