Poll of the Day > Why on earth do people buy remasters of games they've played (e.g. Dark Souls)?

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The convenience of not having to dig out an old console, I reckon.
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OmegaM posted...

What are we considering a remaster as opposed to a full-scale remake?

Anyway, if there was a game that I thought was worth playing through several times but that had, say, somewhat fuzzy graphics and some rather common bugs, I might buy the version of it that had those problems fixed even if there were no other upgrades. In fact (for example), I kind of wish that the DS version of Final Fantasy IV had been just that relative to the Game Boy Advance version; the 3D graphics of the former didn't feel as "iconic" to me.

OK, but what sort of graphical differences are you looking for? I could understand buying a remake of a game (e.g. buying the new upcoming FF7 game even though you played the original) for this reason. But something like Dark Souls remastered offers such minor upgrades that I don't see it as a good purchase.

WarGreymon77 posted...

The convenience of not having to dig out an old console, I reckon.

This has to be the worst reason given in the entire thread.
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Judgmenl posted...

Because they have expendable income.

That is all.

pretty much this, and not wanting to go through the hassle of plugging up another console if I even still have it. then for me its also I tend to flip flop on which brand I buy each gen, so I miss exclusives. i've never had the money to justify buying all consoles of a gen. last time I had that luxury my mom bought the gamecube and ps2 and I bought the xbox with my allowance.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

WarGreymon77 posted...

The convenience of not having to dig out an old console, I reckon.

This has to be the best reason given in the entire thread.

I agree.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

I can totally understand circumstances like not having the proper console at the time, but why on earth would you spend more money on what ultimately amounts to minor improvements on a game you've already experienced or had the chance to experience? I feel like this is why game devs are so lazy lately- people just giving their money to support more trash on the market.

I will ony buy them if they have actual extra content such as new dungeons.
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It really depends on what's new about it. Some people love better graphics. Some stuff has added content. Things that have multiplayer also attract people. It just depends. And just because you don't see it as a reason to buy it, doesn't mean others won't. It's really simple. They want to play it again with better graphics, extra content, etc... And this is a game that has replayability. So, there's that, too...
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only ones i've bought I can think of is, final fantasy 12, which had a revamped system in some areas. and mgs V which I mostly got just to have GZ and TPP on the same disc. plus the graphics are slightly better, but i'm disliking this thing my brother called focus blur I think. where when I zoom in and try to look at something more closely like someones face it slightly blurs. the last gen versions didn't have that problem.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

only ones i've bought I can think of is, final fantasy 12, which had a revamped system in some areas. and mgs V which I mostly got just to have GZ and TPP on the same disc. plus the graphics are slightly better, but i'm disliking this thing my brother called focus blur I think. where when I zoom in and try to look at something more closely like someones face it slightly blurs. the last gen versions didn't have that problem.

*facepalm*

Now I understand why the gaming industry is so profitable and full of filler B.S.
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PS4 fanboys be like "b/c sucks!"
They also be like "imma buy that remaster"
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JanwayDaahl posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

only ones i've bought I can think of is, final fantasy 12, which had a revamped system in some areas. and mgs V which I mostly got just to have GZ and TPP on the same disc. plus the graphics are slightly better, but i'm disliking this thing my brother called focus blur I think. where when I zoom in and try to look at something more closely like someones face it slightly blurs. the last gen versions didn't have that problem.

*facepalm*

Now I understand why the gaming industry is so profitable and full of filler B.S.

mgs is one of my favorite game series. wouldn't do it for say borderlands despite how much I loved those games. its the only case where i've re bought a game that I still had readily available on another console. I still have final fantasy 12 on ps2, but I have no ps2. I have no clue what happened to my ps2 copy of final fantasy 10 though. so I re bought that simply to have it in my collection again.

the better graphics also sweetened the deal, and I figured it would run better on a ps4 versus 360.
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Because Dark Souls is a great game and fun to replay, especially in glory 4K and 60 fps. Why do you care what people do with their own money? /thread
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OhFudge posted...

Because Dark Souls is a great game and fun to replay, especially in glory 4K and 60 fps. Why do you care what people do with their own money? /thread

Because the stupidity of how gamers spend their money governs what sort of releases we get on the market.

No game is so fun that it is immune to getting bored of, not to mention people could have played it for years with slightly less graphics.

/thread
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Listen dude even if people didnt buy remaster games and "better games" were on the market in their place youd still make threads about how no games are good.

Kinda how it is when you exist to be contrarian.

JanwayDaahl posted...

Because the stupidity of how gamers spend their money governs what sort of releases we get on the market.

Do you really think that companies produce remasters instead of original stuff? More often than not, remasters are a way to generate some easy extra revenue between major releases, not produced instead of making new stuff. Development resources are finite, yes, but it takes vastly fewer resources to remaster a game than to produce a new one.

JanwayDaahl posted...

/thread

You don't get to /thread your own topic. That's not how /thread works at all. Silly human.
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I'm more astounded that TC thinks games aren't worth replaying after beating them once.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

OhFudge posted...

Because Dark Souls is a great game and fun to replay, especially in glory 4K and 60 fps. Why do you care what people do with their own money? /thread

Because the stupidity of how gamers spend their money governs what sort of releases we get on the market.

No game is so fun that it is immune to getting bored of, not to mention people could have played it for years with slightly less graphics.

/thread

Sure. People can get bored of a game. But how fast they get bored is different for every person. They could be bored before they finish the first playthrough. Or after 100. I know I sometimes play old games randomly for fun. Also, what if they don't have the old console they had it on? Or access to it? Like how some people have family consoles. And then moved away from home. But left the console with their family. Or someone who donated a console to someone else. And they want to play the game again. And what if some people just really love the better graphics...
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JanwayDaahl posted...

I just choose to not

And they choose to. Novel concept.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

I have expendable income as well-- I just choose to not waste it on something as dumb as the same video game I've played and beaten.

C O N T R A R I A N
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JanwayDaahl posted...

I can totally understand circumstances like not having the proper console at the time

Then why make the topic?
I mean I've bought remasters of Kingdom Hearts simply because I never did own the final mix versions of the games, my PS2 died and I like to play Birth by Sleep on a TV as apposed to a handheld.
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I feel like this topic is just "I don't like them, so you shouldn't like them either."
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Jen0125 posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

I just choose to not

And they choose to. Novel concept.

Right?
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JanwayDaahl posted...

OhFudge posted...

Because Dark Souls is a great game and fun to replay, especially in glory 4K and 60 fps. Why do you care what people do with their own money? /thread

Because the stupidity of how gamers spend their money governs what sort of releases we get on the market.

No game is so fun that it is immune to getting bored of, not to mention people could have played it for years with slightly less graphics.

/thread

Prove remasters cause bad games.
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As other people have mentioned, increased graphics, better performance and frame rate, on a more reliable system like PC, nostalgia, etc.

WarGreymon77 posted...

I feel like this topic is just "I don't like them, so you shouldn't like them either."

That's Janway in a nutshell.
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argonautweakend posted...

Listen dude even if people didnt buy remaster games and "better games" were on the market in their place youd still make threads about how no games are good.

Kinda how it is when you exist to be contrarian.

Nah, I don't think I would. If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

PuddingBoy posted...

I'm more astounded that TC thinks games aren't worth replaying after beating them once.

That's not what I said at all. And if you haven't comprehended that, then there's no point in me trying to repeat the same message over and over again.
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I buy remasters because they'll theoretically play better than the originals since they're on better hardware and in most cases the software has been optimized for performance.

Uglyface2 posted...

I buy remasters because they'll theoretically play better than the originals since they're on better hardware and in most cases the software has been optimized for performance.

You didn't address any of the points I made. Why bother buying it in the first place if you've already experienced/replayed the game in its original form? It's a waste.
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Opinions vs facts
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JanwayDaahl posted...

Uglyface2 posted...

I buy remasters because they'll theoretically play better than the originals since they're on better hardware and in most cases the software has been optimized for performance.

You didn't address any of the points I made. Why bother buying it in the first place if you've already experienced/replayed the game in its original form? It's a waste.

Suppose I enjoyed the game the first time, but there were notable performance issues in some places. Along comes a version that fixes those issues and makes the game run better. If I want to play the game again and experience a better version, I'll do that. I do the same thing with movies.

Personally I do it for the trophies! And convenience helps as well.
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Uglyface2 posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

Uglyface2 posted...

I buy remasters because they'll theoretically play better than the originals since they're on better hardware and in most cases the software has been optimized for performance.

You didn't address any of the points I made. Why bother buying it in the first place if you've already experienced/replayed the game in its original form? It's a waste.

Suppose I enjoyed the game the first time, but there were notable performance issues in some places. Along comes a version that fixes those issues and makes the game run better. If I want to play the game again and experience a better version, I'll do that. I do the same thing with movies.

And some game also offer replayability Like others have said. And that's if you played it. But a lot of times, it's also for people who never had a chance to play it for many other reasons.

JanwayDaahl posted...

I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Most people seem to be happy or content with the games we get. Just because you're not happy doesn't mean the gaming market is in a horrible state. It just means you disagree with it.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

horrible state of the gaming market lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk" data-time="
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JanwayDaahl posted...

If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Those "people with poor taste" are having more fun than you because they spend more time enjoying games and less time complaining about the state of the gaming market. Can you really say they have poor taste if their tastes allow them to have more fun than you? Or are your "superior tastes" causing you to substitute having actual fun with patting yourself on the back whenever you feed your flimsy elitism?
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I definitely prefer rehashes of old classics over B team releases.
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adjl posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Those "people with poor taste" are having more fun than you because they spend more time enjoying games and less time complaining about the state of the gaming market. Can you really say they have poor taste if their tastes allow them to have more fun than you? Or are your "superior tastes" causing you to substitute having actual fun with patting yourself on the back whenever you feed your flimsy elitism?

This is a good post.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

adjl posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Those "people with poor taste" are having more fun than you because they spend more time enjoying games and less time complaining about the state of the gaming market. Can you really say they have poor taste if their tastes allow them to have more fun than you? Or are your "superior tastes" causing you to substitute having actual fun with patting yourself on the back whenever you feed your flimsy elitism?

This is a good post.

But the gaming industry is in such a bad shape!!!111
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Because they are graphics whores
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I just bought Strange Journey Redux with no intent to play the expanded content. The artwork is improved enough to make for a better experience. Worth the money to me.

Revelation34 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

adjl posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Those "people with poor taste" are having more fun than you because they spend more time enjoying games and less time complaining about the state of the gaming market. Can you really say they have poor taste if their tastes allow them to have more fun than you? Or are your "superior tastes" causing you to substitute having actual fun with patting yourself on the back whenever you feed your flimsy elitism?

This is a good post.

But the gaming industry is in such a bad shape!!!111

The gaming industry *is* in bad shape, mostly because of neckbeards with your mentality, who think that playing the same game over and over to death is somehow fun. My views aren't "elitist," somehow, just because they go against the neckbeard grain. As for "tastes," my cat enjoys running in circles after a toy mouse attached to a stick- he has fun with it, but that's not something that I'd consider to be fun. It's a similar thing with neckbeards and replaying the same games over and over again.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

The gaming industry *is* in bad shape, mostly because of neckbeards with your mentality, who think that playing the same game over and over to death is somehow fun. My views aren't "elitist," somehow, just because they go against the neckbeard grain. As for "tastes," my cat enjoys running in circles after a toy mouse attached to a stick- he has fun with it, but that's not something that I'd consider to be fun. It's a similar thing with neckbeards and replaying the same games over and over again.

I'm not a neckbeard. I shaved today. Also you keep saying the gaming industry is in bad shape yet refuse to post any "proof".
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JanwayDaahl posted...

Revelation34 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

adjl posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

If I saw games like Enter the gungeon, frostpunk, risk of rain, the last of us, etc. coming out more often, I'd be content with the gaming community. I guess people with poor taste who like playing the same crap over and over again are content with the horrible state of the gaming market lately.

Those "people with poor taste" are having more fun than you because they spend more time enjoying games and less time complaining about the state of the gaming market. Can you really say they have poor taste if their tastes allow them to have more fun than you? Or are your "superior tastes" causing you to substitute having actual fun with patting yourself on the back whenever you feed your flimsy elitism?

This is a good post.

But the gaming industry is in such a bad shape!!!111

The gaming industry *is* in bad shape, mostly because of neckbeards with your mentality, who think that playing the same game over and over to death is somehow fun. My views aren't "elitist," somehow, just because they go against the neckbeard grain. As for "tastes," my cat enjoys running in circles after a toy mouse attached to a stick- he has fun with it, but that's not something that I'd consider to be fun. It's a similar thing with neckbeards and replaying the same games over and over again.

So, just because someone doesn't mind playing a game more than once, you just call them names. Anyway, you basically answered your own question. You and your cat have different taste in what's fun, just like how everyone else in the world has different taste in what's fun to them... I hate to say this because I don't want to sound mean. But it honestly sounds like you made this topic to try to prove that you think you have better taste or something. But we all like different things. And most people have given you reasons. Just because you don't like those reasons or they don't apply doesn't mean your question hasn't been answered. It's been answered multiple times already...
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JanwayDaahl posted...

As for "tastes," my cat enjoys running in circles after a toy mouse attached to a stick- he has fun with it, but that's not something that I'd consider to be fun.

Your cat can have fun chasing after a toy mouse on a stick. You can't. You think your tastes are superior to those of your cat?
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adjl posted...

You have a particular fondness for roguelikes. Also known as "Playing the Same Game Over and Over to Death: The Genre." I would think you'd consider tastes like that to be in line with your own.

Another good post. adjl is on fire in this topic!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

adjl posted...

You have a particular fondness for roguelikes. Also known as "Playing the Same Game Over and Over to Death: The Genre." I would think you'd consider tastes like that to be in line with your own.

Another good post. adjl is on fire in this topic!

He's really not- he hasn't made any sort of good points. Neckbeard cheerleaders are the funniest things I've seen as of late, FWL tacticians trying to make noise out of nothing.

RogueliTes offer the type of replayability that rewards multiple playthroughs, and the best ones usually offer lots of content and new bosses/enemies on subsequent playthroughs. This is very different from just replaying the same game with the same bosses and the same equipment.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

RogueliTes offer the type of replayability that rewards multiple playthroughs, and the best ones usually offer lots of content and new bosses/enemies on subsequent playthroughs. This is very different from just replaying the same game with the same bosses and the same equipment.

Dark Souls does this yet you target Dark Souls.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

RogueliTes offer the type of replayability that rewards multiple playthroughs, and the best ones usually offer lots of content and new bosses/enemies on subsequent playthroughs. This is very different from just replaying the same game with the same bosses and the same equipment.

Dark Souls does this yet you target Dark Souls.

No it doesn't. There's not really anything significant you unlock a second playthrough of any of the souls games. The playstyles can be slightly different (e.g. pyro instead of dex build), but ultimately they're the same crap where you study boss patterns and use slightly different methods of DPS to win the battle.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

He's really not- he hasn't made any sort of good points. Neckbeard cheerleaders are the funniest things I've seen as of late, FWL tacticians trying to make noise out of nothing.

RogueliTes offer the type of replayability that rewards multiple playthroughs, and the best ones usually offer lots of content and new bosses/enemies on subsequent playthroughs. This is very different from just replaying the same game with the same bosses and the same equipment.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76638161/902043239
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JanwayDaahl posted...

RogueliTes offer the type of replayability that rewards multiple playthroughs, and the best ones usually offer lots of content and new bosses/enemies on subsequent playthroughs. This is very different from just replaying the same game with the same bosses and the same equipment.

What? Are you suggesting that replaying the same game over and over again can actually be made more entertaining than it sounds by subtle variations in subsequent playthroughs that offer new ways to play and keep things interesting? Whoa dude. You're totally blowing my mind here.

Incidentally, I've got nothing against Roguelikes/lites. I'm not very good at a lot of them, but Risk of Rain in particular was an absolutely fantastic time. I just like pointing out hypocrisy when it's this funny.
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JanwayDaahl posted...

No it doesn't. There's not really anything significant you unlock a second playthrough of any of the souls games. The playstyles can be slightly different (e.g. pyro instead of dex build), but ultimately they're the same crap where you study boss patterns and use slightly different methods of DPS to win the battle.

This is not different from roguelites.
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You'd think adjl would be experienced enough to not fall for Janway at this point.
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