Board 8 > What movie remake most improved over the original?

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CherryCokes
04/01/18 4:53:49 PM
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Not asking what the best remake of a movie is (though you can debate that too), but rather which has the biggest margin of improvement over the original
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04/01/18 4:54:33 PM
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The 80s The Thing
The 70s Invasion of the Body Snatchers
The 80s The Fly
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Mr Lasastryke
04/01/18 4:56:42 PM
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does the lord of the rings trilogy over the ralph bakshi movie count?
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StifledSilence
04/01/18 5:04:09 PM
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Ocean's Eleven

To clarify, I mean the Clooney one over the original. Not the upcoming one they're doing.
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scarletspeed7
04/01/18 5:10:51 PM
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StifledSilence posted...
Ocean's Eleven

To clarify, I mean the Clooney one over the original. Not the upcoming one they're doing.

Totally agree. interestingly the Italian Job is the exact opposite.
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Underleveled
04/01/18 5:11:42 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
does the lord of the rings trilogy over the ralph bakshi movie count?

This is what I was thinking lol
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iiicon
04/01/18 5:12:43 PM
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Little Shop of Horrors

the cheeky answer is Evil Dead 2.
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NFUN
04/01/18 5:12:51 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
does the lord of the rings trilogy over the ralph bakshi movie count?

This is what I was thinking lol

why would that count as a remake
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Snake5555555555
04/01/18 5:12:54 PM
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I 2nd The Thing and will throw Nosferatu the Vampyre into the ring. Klaus Kinski's portrayal of Dracula and Herzog's incredible eye for detail both improve on the original Nosferatu dramatically.
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CherryCokes
04/01/18 5:14:29 PM
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StifledSilence posted...
Ocean's Eleven

To clarify, I mean the Clooney one over the original. Not the upcoming one they're doing.


Ocean's Eight isn't a remake, it's a spinoff/sequel
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scarletspeed7
04/01/18 5:16:03 PM
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NFUN posted...
Underleveled posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
does the lord of the rings trilogy over the ralph bakshi movie count?

This is what I was thinking lol

why would that count as a remake

Peter Jackson actually shoots some scenes shot for shot out of the animated film
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Johnbobb
04/01/18 5:16:04 PM
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True Grit
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CherryCokes
04/01/18 5:16:32 PM
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and no, LotR doesn't count

obviously
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mnkboy907
04/01/18 5:17:07 PM
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It occurs to me I don't think I really have points of reference for many, if any at all, of the remakes I've seen because I've seen very very few old movies and thus have seen like none of the originals. I'm sure there must've been at least one, but I'm drawing a blank. Unless you want to count stuff like the live action Beauty and the Beast or Jungle Book movies.
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StealThisSheen
04/01/18 5:17:39 PM
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CherryCokes posted...
StifledSilence posted...
Ocean's Eleven

To clarify, I mean the Clooney one over the original. Not the upcoming one they're doing.


Ocean's Eight isn't a remake, it's an abomination


Yes I agree
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Underleveled
04/01/18 5:19:13 PM
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iiicon posted...
Little Shop of Horrors

Okay this then
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NFUN
04/01/18 5:19:31 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
It occurs to me I don't think I really have points of reference for many, if any at all, of the remakes I've seen because I've seen very very few old movies and thus have seen like none of the originals. I'm sure there must've been at least one, but I'm drawing a blank. Unless you want to count stuff like the live action Beauty and the Beast or Jungle Book movies.

Charlie/Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
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mnkboy907
04/01/18 5:26:53 PM
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NFUN posted...
mnkboy907 posted...
It occurs to me I don't think I really have points of reference for many, if any at all, of the remakes I've seen because I've seen very very few old movies and thus have seen like none of the originals. I'm sure there must've been at least one, but I'm drawing a blank. Unless you want to count stuff like the live action Beauty and the Beast or Jungle Book movies.

Charlie/Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

I'm not sure I've seen the entirety of the new one but yes that would be one. Though of course for it to work the new one would have to be better than the old one so oops.
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ProfitProphet
04/01/18 5:45:08 PM
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Ghostbusters
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scarletspeed7
04/01/18 5:47:19 PM
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ProfitProphet posted...
Ghostbusters

Not a remake.
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NFUN
04/01/18 5:47:57 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
NFUN posted...
mnkboy907 posted...
It occurs to me I don't think I really have points of reference for many, if any at all, of the remakes I've seen because I've seen very very few old movies and thus have seen like none of the originals. I'm sure there must've been at least one, but I'm drawing a blank. Unless you want to count stuff like the live action Beauty and the Beast or Jungle Book movies.

Charlie/Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

I'm not sure I've seen the entirety of the new one but yes that would be one. Though of course for it to work the new one would have to be better than the old one so oops.

oops
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linkhatesganon
04/01/18 6:24:41 PM
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iiicon posted...
the cheeky answer is Evil Dead 2.


The one I thought of before clicking the topic, but Evil Dead 2013 is also nice.

Also Millennium and Frankenweenie. The Ring is also a better remake than the original but not sure it fits the topic.
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CoolCly
04/01/18 6:27:13 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
ProfitProphet posted...
Ghostbusters

Not a remake.


huh? yes it is
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Grand Kirby
04/01/18 7:47:53 PM
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Scarface
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5tarscream
04/01/18 7:50:38 PM
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Does Homecoming over the Amazing Spiderman count?
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NBIceman
04/01/18 7:51:10 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
True Grit

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scarletspeed7
04/01/18 8:07:17 PM
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5tarscream posted...
Does Homecoming over the Amazing Spiderman count?

No. No Spider-Man film is a remake of another Spider-Man film. Reboots are different from remakes. That's why I said Ghostbusters doesn't count.
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CherryCokes
04/01/18 9:02:19 PM
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Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh
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Mr Lasastryke
04/01/18 9:03:38 PM
#29:


CherryCokes posted...
Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh


then why doesn't lotr count?
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scarletspeed7
04/01/18 9:04:56 PM
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Similar stories are not the same stories.
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CherryCokes
04/01/18 9:19:59 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
CherryCokes posted...
Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh


then why doesn't lotr count?


different medium

it's like saying Lion King is a better Hamlet than Olivier's Hamlet
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Underleveled
04/01/18 10:41:36 PM
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CherryCokes posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
CherryCokes posted...
Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh


then why doesn't lotr count?


different medium

it's like saying Lion King is a better Hamlet than Olivier's Hamlet

But it's still the same narrative. I count it.

Like, 2017 BatB counts as a remake of the 1991 version but not the countless other versions out there.

The 2002, 2012, and 2017 versions of Spider-Man all tell a completely different narrative with only the bare essential similarities.
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SeabassDebeste
04/01/18 10:43:15 PM
#33:


CherryCokes posted...
Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh

i entirely disagree!
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jcgamer107
04/01/18 10:50:40 PM
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Yeah The Thing (1982) might be the winner. Little Shop of Horrors is also really good. The Ring is probably my favorite remake overall but Ringu is still very good.
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CherryCokes
04/01/18 11:15:55 PM
#35:


Underleveled posted...
CherryCokes posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
CherryCokes posted...
Re-adapting the same material and story is pretty much a remake tbh


then why doesn't lotr count?


different medium

it's like saying Lion King is a better Hamlet than Olivier's Hamlet

But it's still the same narrative. I count it.

Like, 2017 BatB counts as a remake of the 1991 version but not the countless other versions out there.

The 2002, 2012, and 2017 versions of Spider-Man all tell a completely different narrative with only the bare essential similarities.


there's also the fact that Jackson took 3 movies for LotR and Bakshi took 1
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Mr Lasastryke
04/02/18 7:25:01 AM
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well, you could say fellowship is a remake of part of the bakshi movie!

i'm just playing devil's advocate, though. jackson obviously didn't try to remake the bakshi movie. he did mimic certain shots, like scarlet said, but those are hommages more than anything.

the live action beauty and the beast is definitely a remake of the animated one, though. it has the same songs and everything. don't agree with the "it's a different medium so it's not a remake" argument.
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ZeroSignal620
04/02/18 7:28:02 AM
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Best/most improved remake: The Thing
Worst/least improved: Cabin Fever
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Nelson_Mandela
04/02/18 8:02:00 AM
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Dredd
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