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Alexanaxela
03/21/18 8:47:18 AM
#101:


gunplagirl posted...
ledbowman posted...
tremain07 posted...
It's Texas, did people really expect him to be taken alive in fucking Texas? We are a state where if someone is killed by police, they will leave the body out in the open instead of covering it up unless the person is a victim, when it comes to criminals like this one the cops here use the body as a warning to any copycats as to what their future will be if they dare try to emulate this behavior. Wither or not it actually is effective remains to be seen.

That being said, I'm glad he's dead and I'll be even happier not knowing his motive, his face, his race, his religion or his political agencies, let the investigators learn that, everyone else will just use it to justify their feelings towards their opponents.

You don't think possible political motives might be kind of relevant?


The bomber was white, it won't be labeled terrorism. So no, most white Americans have zero benefit in actually learning the motivations.

i'm black actually. But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset
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ledbowman
03/21/18 8:51:27 AM
#102:


Alexanaxela posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ledbowman posted...
tremain07 posted...
It's Texas, did people really expect him to be taken alive in fucking Texas? We are a state where if someone is killed by police, they will leave the body out in the open instead of covering it up unless the person is a victim, when it comes to criminals like this one the cops here use the body as a warning to any copycats as to what their future will be if they dare try to emulate this behavior. Wither or not it actually is effective remains to be seen.

That being said, I'm glad he's dead and I'll be even happier not knowing his motive, his face, his race, his religion or his political agencies, let the investigators learn that, everyone else will just use it to justify their feelings towards their opponents.

You don't think possible political motives might be kind of relevant?


The bomber was white, it won't be labeled terrorism. So no, most white Americans have zero benefit in actually learning the motivations.

i'm black actually. But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

"The news shouldn't report the news."
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_RETS_
03/21/18 8:57:59 AM
#103:


ledbowman posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ledbowman posted...
tremain07 posted...
It's Texas, did people really expect him to be taken alive in fucking Texas? We are a state where if someone is killed by police, they will leave the body out in the open instead of covering it up unless the person is a victim, when it comes to criminals like this one the cops here use the body as a warning to any copycats as to what their future will be if they dare try to emulate this behavior. Wither or not it actually is effective remains to be seen.

That being said, I'm glad he's dead and I'll be even happier not knowing his motive, his face, his race, his religion or his political agencies, let the investigators learn that, everyone else will just use it to justify their feelings towards their opponents.

You don't think possible political motives might be kind of relevant?


The bomber was white, it won't be labeled terrorism. So no, most white Americans have zero benefit in actually learning the motivations.

i'm black actually. But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

"The news shouldn't report the news."


They should report everything but name and face. Putting his name out there has way more potential for future harm and virtually no benefit at all.
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Alexanaxela
03/21/18 9:02:01 AM
#104:


ledbowman posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ledbowman posted...
tremain07 posted...
It's Texas, did people really expect him to be taken alive in fucking Texas? We are a state where if someone is killed by police, they will leave the body out in the open instead of covering it up unless the person is a victim, when it comes to criminals like this one the cops here use the body as a warning to any copycats as to what their future will be if they dare try to emulate this behavior. Wither or not it actually is effective remains to be seen.

That being said, I'm glad he's dead and I'll be even happier not knowing his motive, his face, his race, his religion or his political agencies, let the investigators learn that, everyone else will just use it to justify their feelings towards their opponents.

You don't think possible political motives might be kind of relevant?


The bomber was white, it won't be labeled terrorism. So no, most white Americans have zero benefit in actually learning the motivations.

i'm black actually. But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

"The news shouldn't report the news."

strawman. Should the news also report on how to make the bombs as well since that's news?
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tremain07
03/21/18 9:03:35 AM
#105:


Fuck! Fox is already going off blaming liberals. Fucking dammit, this shit is why I didn't want to put a face on this nutbar or his motivations, fine, let the shit flinging begin as more details on the maniac's life come out and as a result let the demonization of the other side begin anew. Fucking great, just fucking great.
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The Admiral
03/21/18 9:05:51 AM
#106:


Rot in hell, you piece of trash.
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_OujiDoza_
03/21/18 9:08:22 AM
#107:


Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.
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_OujiDoza_
03/21/18 9:08:54 AM
#108:


Alexanaxela posted...
strawman. Should the news also report on how to make the bombs as well since that's news?

Not even remotely comparable.
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Tyranthraxus
03/21/18 9:09:33 AM
#109:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

Literally every major psychologist and expert in the field disagrees with you but okay.
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Ajenla
03/21/18 9:10:11 AM
#110:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

But do we need a name and face and an interview with everyone he knows?
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Alexanaxela
03/21/18 9:13:34 AM
#111:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
strawman. Should the news also report on how to make the bombs as well since that's news?

Not even remotely comparable.

"don't push your willful ignorance on the rest of us."
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gunplagirl
03/21/18 9:14:24 AM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

Literally every major psychologist and expert in the field disagrees with you but okay.


Ah yes, psychologists and experts such as Maneye Justmadeup, Sue Donym and Nadda Realperson?
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_RETS_
03/21/18 9:14:43 AM
#113:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.


You are 100% wrong.

Adding his name/face to all the other information adds literally no value to learning why he did what he did. Killers like this are narcicists and we want to discourage killing for immortalization as much as possible.

There is only harm in what you want, no benefit at all.
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RE_expert44
03/21/18 9:17:21 AM
#114:


Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"
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ledbowman
03/21/18 9:21:12 AM
#115:


Guess what: he gets to be well-known. Sad day for us.
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Dabrikishaw15
03/21/18 9:23:52 AM
#116:


Well that's a relief.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:26:03 AM
#117:


gunplagirl posted...
ledbowman posted...
tremain07 posted...
It's Texas, did people really expect him to be taken alive in fucking Texas? We are a state where if someone is killed by police, they will leave the body out in the open instead of covering it up unless the person is a victim, when it comes to criminals like this one the cops here use the body as a warning to any copycats as to what their future will be if they dare try to emulate this behavior. Wither or not it actually is effective remains to be seen.

That being said, I'm glad he's dead and I'll be even happier not knowing his motive, his face, his race, his religion or his political agencies, let the investigators learn that, everyone else will just use it to justify their feelings towards their opponents.

You don't think possible political motives might be kind of relevant?


The bomber was white, it won't be labeled terrorism. So no, most white Americans have zero benefit in actually learning the motivations.


It has zero to due with "whiteness". It's about ideology. In the past two years, we've had a number of non-white serial killers targeting random people for no reason, and they were never labelled as "terrorists" by any media outlet. Because strictly speaking, they weren't.

For example,

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-homeless-shootings-20180220-story.html

Brown Hispanic male that targeted black homeless men. Killed two and wounded two (similar victim count to this bomber). Arrested earlier this year.

Then you have this guy arrested in January

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/phoenix-serial-killer-police-say-probability-linked-more-crimes/

I challenge you to find any major media outlet that called them a "domestic terrorist".

At this point, the serial bomber is a serial killer who instead of using a gun like the two men above, used a bomb.
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_RETS_
03/21/18 9:27:15 AM
#118:


RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"


Not really, because it is all in retrospect. It is almost certain that immortalizing these fucks leads to more lost lives than saved ones.

Only reason name and face should be reported in mass killings, serial killings, or terrorism is if they are still at large or thought to be working in concert with someone else
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:27:57 AM
#119:


At least one profiler was right, he chose targets far from where he lived.
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ledbowman
03/21/18 9:30:40 AM
#120:


_RETS_ posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"


Not really, because it is all in retrospect. It is almost certain that immortalizing these fucks leads to more lost lives than saved ones.

Only reason name and face should be reported in mass killings, serial killings, or terrorism is if they are still at large or thought to be working in concert with someone else

Showing his name and face on the news is not immortalizing him. It's part of the story. This isn't hard.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:30:49 AM
#121:


Bomber more like the joker than Unibomber

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/20/texas-package-bombings-geraldo-says-suspect-batman-joker-not-unabomber

Kind of like that reddit troll who claimed to be the bomber, right? "I want to watch the world burn".
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:41:09 AM
#122:


So basically, this guy starts out in East Austin far from where he lived. The first attack gets little media coverage and is actually suspected to be the work of a drug dealer. Disappointed by this development, he returns to East Austin and this time leaves two bombs to dispel that notion. Massive media coverage begins, warning residents, especially in East Austin, not to pick up any suspicious packages left on porches. In response the bomber switches up his tactics and heads over the Southwest Austin and sets a tripwire bomb (which doesn't need to be picked up). He also attempts to deliver the bombs through an official delivery service so that intended targets would be less suspicious. This was his undoing.
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_RETS_
03/21/18 9:44:24 AM
#124:


ledbowman posted...
_RETS_ posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"


Not really, because it is all in retrospect. It is almost certain that immortalizing these fucks leads to more lost lives than saved ones.

Only reason name and face should be reported in mass killings, serial killings, or terrorism is if they are still at large or thought to be working in concert with someone else

Showing his name and face on the news is not immortalizing him. It's part of the story. This isn't hard.


You're right, it isn't hard, which is why it's baffling you can't seen to understand it.

It adds nothing meaningful to the story. It only cements his name in history. If you consider that mass killers/serial killers are narcissists and are driven in part by having their name known, why would you ever want to facilitate that?

If some future killer knows his name will be the subject of national media attention, why continue to incentivize it?

Reporting names/faces leads to more lives lost than lives saved. If you want to support that, it's on you.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:44:37 AM
#125:


Asherlee10 posted...
The bomb that went off at Goodwill yesterday is where I drop off all my donations. Kind of weird.

I'm so glad this fucknut is dead.

That was not related to this bomber.
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Alexanaxela
03/21/18 9:45:39 AM
#126:


RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"

if people don't already know to take bomb threats seriously, then I don't think telling them to take bomb threats more seriously will cause them to take bomb threats more seriously
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:46:41 AM
#127:


_RETS_ posted...
ledbowman posted...
_RETS_ posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"


Not really, because it is all in retrospect. It is almost certain that immortalizing these fucks leads to more lost lives than saved ones.

Only reason name and face should be reported in mass killings, serial killings, or terrorism is if they are still at large or thought to be working in concert with someone else

Showing his name and face on the news is not immortalizing him. It's part of the story. This isn't hard.


You're right, it isn't hard, which is why it's baffling you can't seen to understand it.

It adds nothing meaningful to the story. It only cements his name in history. If you consider that mass killers/serial killers are narcissists and are driven in part by having their name known, why would you ever want to facilitate that?

If some future killer knows his name will be the subject of national media attention, why continue to incentivize it?

Reporting names/faces leads to more lives lost than lives saved. If you want to support that, it's on you.


China did that with mass school stabbers, and that pretty much stopped future occurrences....for a while.
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Tactical_Spork
03/21/18 9:48:51 AM
#129:


Why is this topic full of some no-name account trying to sympathize with a fucking bomber
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 9:48:51 AM
#130:


Asherlee10 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
The bomb that went off at Goodwill yesterday is where I drop off all my donations. Kind of weird.

I'm so glad this fucknut is dead.

That was not related to this bomber.


Oh, it turns out it wasn't? I haven't seen the news since yesterday afternoon.

No. The package apparently contained some type of vintage military stuff that caught fire.
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ledbowman
03/21/18 9:49:56 AM
#131:


_RETS_ posted...
ledbowman posted...
_RETS_ posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Wouldn't having his name out there be good so people could be like "Yeah I knew that guy. He constantly made bomb threats. If someone took him more seriously this wouldn't have happened"


Not really, because it is all in retrospect. It is almost certain that immortalizing these fucks leads to more lost lives than saved ones.

Only reason name and face should be reported in mass killings, serial killings, or terrorism is if they are still at large or thought to be working in concert with someone else

Showing his name and face on the news is not immortalizing him. It's part of the story. This isn't hard.


You're right, it isn't hard, which is why it's baffling you can't seen to understand it.

It adds nothing meaningful to the story. It only cements his name in history. If you consider that mass killers/serial killers are narcissists and are driven in part by having their name known, why would you ever want to facilitate that?

If some future killer knows his name will be the subject of national media attention, why continue to incentivize it?

Reporting names/faces leads to more lives lost than lives saved. If you want to support that, it's on you.

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LightHawKnight
03/21/18 9:51:33 AM
#132:


AceMos posted...
tell me why does pussy even mean coward why is the female sexual organ a term used for a coward

its basically just a "Edgy" way of using girl as a way to mock a boy for not being brave as if to say girls cant be brave

like i said the guy is a monster and probably a psycho and if you want to call him a coward fine wtv but lets stop using grade school level crap as a way to insult masculinity as people who do it are often insecure in there own


I always though it was from pussy cat.
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ledbowman
03/21/18 9:56:58 AM
#134:


Asherlee10 posted...
Now they are showing his name and face on the Austin news.

aka doing their job.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 10:00:07 AM
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The Admiral
03/21/18 10:01:03 AM
#136:


Tyranthraxus posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

Literally every major psychologist and expert in the field disagrees with you but okay.


Yeah, it's not just that his name is out there, it's that the cable news channels will now be giving this guy non-stop attention for the next three days.

CNN never had this as their main story when the bomber was still at large and posing a public safety threat, but now that he's been ID'ed and they can properly spin it, this is their front page:

3WJwcU6
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_RETS_
03/21/18 10:01:22 AM
#137:


ledbowman posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Now they are showing his name and face on the Austin news.

aka doing their job.


aka immortalizing him and encouraging future narcissists with thoughts of serial/mass murder.

But cat's out of the bag now. Fuck this guy and his stupid face
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tremain07
03/21/18 10:02:46 AM
#139:


The Admiral posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

Literally every major psychologist and expert in the field disagrees with you but okay.


Yeah, it's not just that his name is out there, it's that the cable news channels will now be giving this guy non-stop attention for the next three days.

CNN never had this as their main story when the bomber was still at large and posing a public safety threat, but now that he's been ID'ed and they can properly spin it, this is their front page:

3WJwcU6

I'm so disappointed in you. I used to fucking hate you, now I'm just disappointed. You've failed to live up to what you claim to be. You're a hypocrite and no better than the liberals you hate so fucking much.
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DuneMan
03/21/18 10:03:02 AM
#140:


So he's a home schooled individual living in Texas, targeting blacks and other minorities, and people on this site are painting him as a 'liberal'... right....
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ledbowman
03/21/18 10:03:04 AM
#141:


The Admiral posted...
properly spin it

Where
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HotMaladorianAI
03/21/18 10:03:25 AM
#142:


Good, bout time
Felt bad for the Austinites on here
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_OujiDoza_
03/21/18 10:03:50 AM
#143:


The dude had a Reddit account that was named...

AustinBomber

Can't make this shit up.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 10:04:22 AM
#144:


DuneMan posted...
So he's a home schooled individual living in Texas, targeting blacks and other minorities, and people on this site are painting him as a 'liberal'... right....


He targets were random.
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Ammonitida
03/21/18 10:04:39 AM
#145:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
The dude had a Reddit account that was named...

AustinBomber

Can't make this shit up.


That's been confirmed?
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Giant_Aspirin
03/21/18 10:04:52 AM
#146:


The Admiral posted...
CNN never had this as their main story when the bomber was still at large and posing a public safety threat, but now that he's been ID'ed and they can properly spin it, this is their front page:

3WJwcU6


what 'spin' did they put on that story? the headline and bullet points seem about as objective as can be.
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ledbowman
03/21/18 10:05:18 AM
#147:


Asherlee10 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Now they are showing his name and face on the Austin news.

aka doing their job.


I see no reason why they should show his face or name. It does a better service to everyone to reference him anonymously or by his traits (24 year old male, Austin Bomber).

Glorifying these people on the news inspires others, we've seen that already.

That's not the news's problem.
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_RETS_
03/21/18 10:05:27 AM
#148:


DuneMan posted...
So he's a home schooled individual living in Texas, targeting blacks and other minorities, and people on this site are painting him as a 'liberal'... right....


He wasn't targeting blacks/minorities with anything but the first 3 bombs. And he placed those in east Austin, so even randomly doing so has a likelihood of a black/minority victim. The others were west of 35 which are more affluent and typically whiter areas.
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Tyranthraxus
03/21/18 10:06:10 AM
#149:


gunplagirl posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Alexanaxela posted...
But plastering this guy's name, face, and way of life on the news for a week is exactly what he would want to happen after he's dead. All it's going to do is romanticize him and the idea to other's people with the same mindset

This bullshit has been parroted for so long...cretins will exist whether this dude is glamorized or not, we need to learn everything about this fucker in hopes to maybe thwart future attempts sooner - fuck the whole "romanticizing" bullshit narrative.

Literally every major psychologist and expert in the field disagrees with you but okay.


Ah yes, psychologists and experts such as Maneye Justmadeup, Sue Donym and Nadda Realperson?

No, people like Dr. Park Dietz who actually knows shit and isn't a random internet gamefaqs poster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Dietz
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