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Steiner
12/19/17 7:02:18 PM
#1:


for real this time

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sw2IsB4JVXnOoD5vbtu1lzVYs4aopxipwwX5rJ1WIgw/edit#gid=1533138664

Matches to play:

Silver_Ermine vs. Sir Chris

swirldude vs. Bane_Of_Despair

ctes vs. -hotdogturtle-
Dragon66116 vs. Stevie3V
ctes vs. Stevie3V
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pyresword
12/19/17 7:06:14 PM
#2:


Tag?

Almost playoffs hype.
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Steiner
12/19/17 7:07:57 PM
#3:


@Zigzagoon @DoomTheGyarados @swirIdude @Bane_Of_Despair @The_Ctes @ctesjbuvf @Dragon66116 @Stevie3V @-hotdogturtle--
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Steiner
12/19/17 7:23:52 PM
#5:


* Ermine wins, 2-0 or 2-1, and Ermine comes 1st, Emerald 2nd, Chris 3rd
* Chris wins 2-0, Chris 1st, Ermine 2nd, Emerald 3rd
* Chris wins 2-1, Ermine 1st, Chris 2nd, Emerald 3rd

* swirl wins 2-0, 2-1, or loses 1-2 and swirl comes 3rd over SirBinro.
* Bane wins 2-0 and SirBinro comes 3rd over swirl

* if hotdogturtle gets a single win in his match with ctes, he will win group D. otherwise... we have a perfect tie in that division.

that is all that is left to be decided
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Bane_Of_Despair
12/19/17 7:27:13 PM
#6:


Oh so my game is just deciding seeds and I don't have a chance for 4th? I thought I did. Granted I hadn't looked at standing in a bit and was taking it by word of mouth
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-hotdogturtle--
12/19/17 11:50:19 PM
#7:


Steiner posted...
* if hotdogturtle gets a single win in his match with ctes, he will win group D. otherwise... we have a perfect tie in that division.

Welp.
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Zigzagoon
12/19/17 11:59:14 PM
#8:


chrischrischrischrischris
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The_Ctes
12/20/17 2:15:35 AM
#9:


I'll be able to play most of this evening, late tomorrow night, mostly only in the afternoon Friday, but mostly all of Saturday.

This is all in reference to my own timezone (GMT+1).

Anywhere in that that suits you guys well?
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Steiner
12/20/17 3:47:40 AM
#10:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Oh so my game is just deciding seeds and I don't have a chance for 4th? I thought I did. Granted I hadn't looked at standing in a bit and was taking it by word of mouth

Alright yea I just checked, forgot who told me I still had a shot even though I didn't think I did


You did until swirl won a match
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XIII_rocks
12/20/17 2:52:54 PM
#11:


Let's do this?
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Emeraldegg
12/21/17 7:44:36 PM
#12:


bump
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DoomTheGyarados
12/21/17 7:46:48 PM
#13:


Okay I have a laptop set up at my new place, hi Ermine.
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Zigzagoon
12/21/17 8:30:07 PM
#14:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Okay I have a laptop set up at my new place, hi Ermine.

How is tomorrow for you? :o
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swirIdude
12/21/17 10:47:51 PM
#15:


swirl vs Bane

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-677738596

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-677742057

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-677742057

Swirl 2-0

Of all of the battles I have been in, this was one of them
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Bane_Of_Despair
12/21/17 10:50:43 PM
#16:


oh MAN hot damn surely I could not have seen this folly of spamming Shell Smash and Rock Polish
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Emeraldegg
12/21/17 11:06:38 PM
#17:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
oh MAN hot damn surely I could not have seen this folly of spamming Shell Smash and Rock Polish

It's your fault you weren't lucky enough to get a xerneas or sigilyph
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Zigzagoon
12/21/17 11:12:39 PM
#18:


If you were just going to throw the matches, why did you even bother playing >_>
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pyresword
12/21/17 11:15:22 PM
#19:


that sure was a match all right
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Bane_Of_Despair
12/22/17 12:29:49 AM
#20:


Zigzagoon posted...
If you were just going to throw the matches, why did you even bother playing >_>

Alright the one with Binro I just had been drinking a lot that night so that was sort of accidental. This one there was literally no point in me winning because nothing would have changed, only thing changing was the seeding of Swirl and Binro. And I decided to go the path of least effort due to it not affecting me

And I probably would have lost anyway, plus I had fun this way
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Zigzagoon
12/22/17 12:32:55 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
If you were just going to throw the matches, why did you even bother playing >_>

Alright the one with Binro I just had been drinking a lot that night so that was sort of accidental. This one there was literally no point in me winning because nothing would have changed, only thing changing was the seeding of Swirl and Binro. And I decided to go the path of least effort due to it not affecting me

And I probably would have lost anyway, plus I had fun this way

You could at least respect your opponent by giving him a good match. It's kinda shitty to Binro since he probably would have enjoyed a better seed. In the Eddv case he only hurt himself by quitting, but you throwing your matches on purpose kinda threw Binro under the bus. Even if you didn't have a shot anymore at the top 4, you should have at least given him a decent match imo at least
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Bane_Of_Despair
12/22/17 12:37:05 AM
#22:


I mean that's one way to look at it sure.

I'll also add that I almost did better throwing the games than I would have actually playing them, like that switch into Giga Drain and spamming rock polish so his protects would get wasted. Definitely wouldn't have done cool shit like that had I been trying because I constantly overthink.
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The_Ctes
12/22/17 6:49:04 AM
#23:


@-hotdogturtle--

At least check in so we can get it over with >_>
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-hotdogturtle--
12/22/17 12:59:39 PM
#24:


@The_Ctes Is it afternoon for you now?
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Emeraldegg
12/22/17 1:03:34 PM
#25:


Zigzagoon posted...
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
If you were just going to throw the matches, why did you even bother playing >_>

Alright the one with Binro I just had been drinking a lot that night so that was sort of accidental. This one there was literally no point in me winning because nothing would have changed, only thing changing was the seeding of Swirl and Binro. And I decided to go the path of least effort due to it not affecting me

And I probably would have lost anyway, plus I had fun this way

You could at least respect your opponent by giving him a good match. It's kinda shitty to Binro since he probably would have enjoyed a better seed. In the Eddv case he only hurt himself by quitting, but you throwing your matches on purpose kinda threw Binro under the bus. Even if you didn't have a shot anymore at the top 4, you should have at least given him a decent match imo at least

I get this point of view but I think it's also a tough position to be in since bane's own match had 0 bearing on himself and one of swirl or binro were getting the raw end of it no matter what. It's like an armello match where you have 0 way of winning but your action on the last turn determines who wins. You have to screw someone over no matter what you do.
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The_Ctes
12/23/17 11:45:20 AM
#26:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
@The_Ctes Is it afternoon for you now?


It was a bit too late, unfortunately.

We can play today, if you want.
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-hotdogturtle--
12/23/17 6:54:29 PM
#27:


If "today" = starting from this point forward, then yes.
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The_Ctes
12/23/17 7:11:57 PM
#28:


Let's roll now then
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The_Ctes
12/23/17 7:17:41 PM
#29:


I'll go into help now, name there is "TheCtes"
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-hotdogturtle--
12/23/17 7:20:51 PM
#30:


Ok!
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-hotdogturtle--
12/23/17 7:55:09 PM
#31:


hotdogturtle vs ctes

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-678669834
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-678674161
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-678677100

~~Filler text~~ 2-1 me which also makes this the deciding game
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Steiner
12/23/17 7:58:38 PM
#32:


only @Zigzagoon vs. @DoomTheGyarados is left now
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Steiner
12/23/17 8:01:37 PM
#33:


Group A:
1. swordz9
2. pyresword
3. Forceful Dragon
4. Shonen_Bat

Group C:
1. KommunistKoala
2. VeryInsane
3. swirldude
4. SirBinro

Group D:
1. -hotdogturtle-
2. XIII_Rocks
3. Shaduln
4. mcflubbin
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Steiner
12/23/17 8:02:41 PM
#34:


bracket:
swordz9 vs. mcflubbin
b2 (Chris/Ermine/Emerald) vs. swirldude

b1 (Ermine/Chris) vs. Shonen_Bat
VeryInsane vs. Shaduln

KommunistKoala vs. red13n
XIII vs. Forceful_Dragon

hotdogturtle vs. Binro
pyresword vs. b3 (Chris/Emerald)
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ctesjbuvf
12/23/17 8:04:54 PM
#35:


That was actually a fun set of matches for a change. In that last battle, I made the mistake of U-turning instead of just switching because I forgot to consider Life Orb recoil damage. Had I not done that I could've switched in again and Earthquake, which could've gotten the KO on Stunfisk. Either way, that was a mistake I can blame myself for unlike the last two s*** matches and I'm not moving regardless, so whatever.

Also calling inactivity on Stevie at this point, don't blame him though, the match doesn't matter at all.
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Emeraldegg
12/23/17 8:05:57 PM
#36:


oh god, b3 gets pyre?

GO ERMINE PLZ WIN
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Zigzagoon
12/23/17 8:07:31 PM
#37:


Emeraldegg posted...
oh god, b3 gets pyre?

GO ERMINE PLZ WIN

Hah, I almost want to lose so that I can fight Swirl instead of Shonen...

Though maybe I'm slightly overestimating Shoenen and underestimating swirl. Well it doesn't make too much a difference I think >_>
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ctesjbuvf
12/23/17 8:13:36 PM
#38:


In general, I find randoms to be less enjoyable this gen than the previous. I haven't played too many games, usually stick to OU or UU, but I played a bunch before and after most of my matches, and it appears to be more random than last gen to me. I know that happens in this format, but it seems a lot more frequent now. Most of the matches appear to be decided by team preview now, which makes any match seem like a 50/50 roll a lot more than skill based play. I was unfortunate this time with my matches against Shad and Flubbin being both brutal 2-0's in which my teams stood no chance whatsoever. Random teams does provide more luck than usual, but the luck/skill balance has gotten quite a bit worse, and I enjoy less matches than not, which is a shame.
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swirIdude
12/23/17 8:21:41 PM
#39:


Zigzagoon posted...
Emeraldegg posted...
oh god, b3 gets pyre?

GO ERMINE PLZ WIN

Hah, I almost want to lose so that I can fight Swirl instead of Shonen...

Though maybe I'm slightly overestimating Shoenen and underestimating swirl. Well it doesn't make too much a difference I think >_>


You outlucked me so bad last PRBL that you don't realize I'm actually capable of putting up a fight. You should beat Chris to avoid disaster.
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Zigzagoon
12/23/17 8:25:25 PM
#40:


swirIdude posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
Emeraldegg posted...
oh god, b3 gets pyre?

GO ERMINE PLZ WIN

Hah, I almost want to lose so that I can fight Swirl instead of Shonen...

Though maybe I'm slightly overestimating Shoenen and underestimating swirl. Well it doesn't make too much a difference I think >_>


You outlucked me so bad last PRBL that you don't realize I'm actually capable of putting up a fight. You should beat Chris to avoid disaster.

Maybe, everyone knows I always save my bad luck for the playoffs anyways. Honestly, anyone would want to fight me in the playoffs. It's a guaranteed win :(
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pyresword
12/23/17 8:29:57 PM
#41:


If I had to pick I'd say gen VII Randoms has more luck than gen VI did, but I also don't think it's an incredibly significant difference.
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The_Ctes
12/23/17 8:32:57 PM
#42:


pyresword posted...
If I had to pick I'd say gen VII Randoms has more luck than gen VI did, but I also don't think it's an incredibly significant difference.


Well of all people, I'll take your word on it.

Just had matches decided on team preview more times in gen vii already and played a lot less overall.
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pyresword
12/23/17 8:46:45 PM
#43:


Well I may be understating it a bit. There's enough of a difference that I am picking one as opposed to just saying "I haven't noticed any difference." I just mean it's not like we've doubled the the number of games decided from team selection I don't think.
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-hotdogturtle--
12/23/17 9:24:26 PM
#44:


The_Ctes posted...
matches decided on team preview

I know people who are more into OU/standard metagames, and this is a phrase that I've heard thrown around a few times there as well. I think it's just the state of the game in general now, as there continue to be more Pokemon and an increasing number of viable threats (in both standard and random) that you can't cover with just 6 Pokemon.
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SirBinro
12/24/17 12:30:50 AM
#45:


Agree, this gen's randbats are less fun. We should switch to playing Gen 4 randbats next time.
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ctesjbuvf
12/24/17 6:49:53 AM
#46:


pyresword posted...
Well I may be understating it a bit. There's enough of a difference that I am picking one as opposed to just saying "I haven't noticed any difference." I just mean it's not like we've doubled the the number of games decided from team selection I don't think.


I'm probably overselling it a bit because I'm bitter is cost me two matches in a row here, but I'm glad it seems to be the general consensus and it's not just me having awful luck.

-hotdogturtle-- posted...
The_Ctes posted...
matches decided on team preview

I know people who are more into OU/standard metagames, and this is a phrase that I've heard thrown around a few times there as well. I think it's just the state of the game in general now, as there continue to be more Pokemon and an increasing number of viable threats (in both standard and random) that you can't cover with just 6 Pokemon.


It's not nearly as bad there though, at least not after Baton Pass was banned. Dugtrio leaving helped too.
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Forceful_Dragon
12/24/17 3:24:31 PM
#47:


Im still alive btw. Just checking in to say ill be ready when the playoffs start.
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Steiner
12/26/17 11:17:37 AM
#48:


bumbo
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swordz9
12/26/17 11:30:27 AM
#49:


We're still waiting before the final couple matches right?
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Steiner
12/26/17 1:19:36 PM
#50:


swordz9 posted...
We're still waiting before the final couple matches right?


just chris vs ermine
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Arti
12/27/17 10:00:06 AM
#51:


bump for Chris and Ermine
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