Poll of the Day > What do you think of Canada's PM Justin Trudeau?

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Yesterday he apologized to all LGBTQ on account of all Canadians.

Not long ago he apologized and gave 10.5 million to Omar Khadr, a convicted terrorist.

He apologized to Natives for what the gov't did to them.

He apologized to the Chinese for what Canada did to them.

Besides apologizing, he is also instrumental in legalizing Cannabis next year.

What do you think of Justin Trudeau?

He is nothing but a soy boy

Budget Obama. Definition of mediocre.

https://pics.me.me/justin-trudeau-justin-trudeau-dont-know-whats-worse-a-world-2431272.png
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On one hand, he's both a Christian, and didn't outright condemn what we were legally forced to give Omar Khadr. On the other, he's not a hate-filled, lunatic right winger, and is actually trying to steer the country towards progession.

Not the best, but glad I voted for him over Harper. Watching the Albertans shitting their pants with their meltdowns was amazing, especially because he got a majority before even getting to their votes.
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WaffIeElite posted...

On one hand, he's both a Christian, and didn't outright condemn what we were legally forced to give Omar Khadr. On the other, he's not a hate-filled, lunatic right winger, and is actually trying to steer the country towards progession.

Not the best, but glad I voted for him over Harper. Watching the Albertans shitting their pants with their meltdowns was amazing, especially because he got a majority before even getting to their votes.

Then why did he (purportedly) say that Evangelical Christians are the worst part of Canadian society?

At least Harper issued condolences to the widow of the American who got killed by Khadr... Trudeau did no such thing.

He seems like a fair and benevolent king
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he's better than harper, but he's still a do-nothing neo-liberal washup in his own right
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Blightzkrieg posted...

Budget Obama. Definition of mediocre.

Sounds about right. Granted, he makes silly apologies even more than Obama did.
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minervo posted...

Not long ago he apologized and gave 10.5 million to Omar Khadr, a convicted terrorist.

The alternative would have been spending millions more fighting the SC's decision (Harper had already spent over $100 million to that end, if memory serves), and probably still ending up awarding Khadr more money, all for the sake of fighting for Canada's right to torture information and confessions out of suspected criminals. Canadian citizens have rights, which the government is not supposed to violate. Omar Khadr is a Canadian citizen, and therefore has the same rights as any one of us. There's a reasonable chance he's also a terrorist scumbag who belongs in prison, but that's quite irrelevant when it comes to his legal rights to not be tortured.

minervo posted...

Then why did he (purportedly) say that Evangelical Christians are the worst part of Canadian society?

Because Evangelical Christians are douches. Pretty much everyone that isn't an Evangelical Christian agrees on that, incluyding other Christians.

JunkoEnoshima posted...

he's better than harper, but he's still a do-nothing neo-liberal washup in his own right

Sounds about right. I'm glad Harper's gone, but Trudeau isn't doing much aside from periodically making everyone feel good by issuing long-deserved apologies. He also reneged on the electoral reform he ran on, which is really not cool.
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yeah personally i'm rather sick of the performative emotional apologies he keeps giving to our indigenous people

yeah residential schools were bad, and they're still dealing with the fallout of it today, so why don't you address the issues that they still face today
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....I'm still convinced Harper was a robot.
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Seems like a great guy from what I can tell. Too bad being a great guy doesn't mean that you'll be a good PM.
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Cold_Dreamerz posted...

....I'm still convinced Harper was a robot.

I don't like to hold personality against a politician but Harper was less expressive than Hillary and Ted Cruz combined.

He's generally good. I'm still disappointed he abandoned electoral reform, but Canada is now leading the G20 in terms of economic growth, so he's clearly doing something right. He also reformed the senate in his first year in office, something that Harper never managed to do despite crowing about it for a decade, and the new senate now actually serves a purpose - that alone puts paid to the claims that he's not doing anything. And for whatever public opinion is worth, in the most recent set of polls Canada leads the entire world in terms of which country is seen globally as having the most positive influence.

minervo posted...

Not long ago he apologized and gave 10.5 million to Omar Khadr, a convicted terrorist.

"Convicted" being a pretty floppy term here. He was tried before a widely condemned military tribunal instead of an actual court of law, and convicted of crimes that were not on the books when he was accused of committing them (his "crime" - murder in violation of the laws of war - was created by Bush several years after Khadr had been incarcerated), largely based on confessions obtained via torture that were immediately recanted when that threat was removed. He is currently appealing the charges.

adjl posted...

There's a reasonable chance he's also a terrorist scumbag who belongs in prison, but that's quite irrelevant when it comes to his legal rights to not be tortured.

He was also legally a child when charged, giving him the dubious distinction of being the only child soldier ever prosecuted by the United States since the Geneva Convention was ratified.

Sorry, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the right place for a captured child soldier is prison (let alone Gitmo).

minervo posted...

At least Harper issued condolences to the widow of the American who got killed by Khadr... Trudeau did no such thing.

He did, though. He stated that he could not imagine the agony that the family had gone through.

And even that wasn't really necessary, because it's not even clear that Khadr killed anyone. He recanted his confession immediately upon being repatriated to Canada and claimed that he only said it because it because the Americans agreed to release him from Gitmo if he did, and all of Sgt. Speer's squadmates who initially testified against Khadr have similarly recanted their testimony and now claim they do not know who threw the grenade that killed him.
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darkknight109 posted...

He was also legally a child when charged, giving him the dubious distinction of being the only child soldier ever prosecuted by the United States since the Geneva Convention was ratified.

Sorry, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the right place for a captured child soldier is prison (let alone Gitmo).

Indeed. The whole affair was extremely dubious, and far less clear-cut than the "Trudeau's paying terrorists!" thing people like to scream about.
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The Canadian equivalent of Joe Buck.

Everything was handed to him, and got a job because people liked his dad.
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Trudeau is just a pretty face. He's destroying Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrNW6eokWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouLaBB3S0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqlu_6q5rw
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That scumbag terrorist should be tortured and then publicly executed.
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RazorX2003 posted...

Trudeau is just a pretty face. He's destroying Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrNW6eokWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouLaBB3S0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqlu_6q5rw

By leading us to our best economic performance in over a decade? By topping all the country's premiers and his opposition in the opinion polls?

BTW, literally no one is going to watch through 30+ minutes of Youtube videos if you post them in the middle of a political discussion.

VeeVees posted...

That scumbag terrorist should be tortured and then publicly executed.

For... what, exactly? There's no proof he killed anyone.
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Don't like him much at all. 2/10

He's a horrible human being.

He's just as bad as his father (based on what I know of Pierre's "fuck the will of the majority, here's some SJW shit anyways" agenda). The biggest difference between the two seems to be that Justin is extremely hypocritical and corrupt compared to his hippie father, who was by no means a great guy, but less of a douche than his son is on paper. The deficits he is racking up are insane. Canada had next to no debt when he took over, and now they're projecting it'll take to 2055 or something to pay back all the money he is spending. Things like hundreds of thousands of dollars on the cover for their annual budget booklet (irony), a 5-figure sum on Snapchat filters (for real), and the list goes on... He filled his cabinet based on a diversity checklist rather than merit, so the defense minister is also the king of stolen valor... But he's a Sikh, which was clearly of more importance to the position than actual military accomplishments (I'm fine with him choosing people from any background, but bringing on a confirmed liar to force multiculturalism - a theme which the majority of Canadians surprisingly disliked when it was introduced by his father - is unacceptable. Take the best and the brightest and if they happen to also be a racial/gender mosaic, then great).
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Hasn't done much besides take photo ops. Maybe when he does his job instead of being a social media darling I'll rate him as a PM. So far he is a 2/10 social medial star.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Canada had next to no debt when he took over

This is wrong and it's not even close to being right.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/authors/brief%20history%2012.png

I mean, the Harper Conservatives ran deficits every single year they were in power, which is unacceptable when you realise that their first few years were prior to the Great Recession, which were some of the biggest boom years in recent memory. Take a look at that graph and notice how high Canadian debt spikes during the Harper years. That's a gain steeper than any in Canadian history, comparable only to the Mulroney governments of the 80s (incidentally also Conservatives), which gave way to Chretien and the Liberals paying down the debt in the 90s.

Trudeau has slowed the debt gain and has us leading the G20 in economic performance. Hard to argue with those numbers. I'm hopeful he'll start paying down the debt and nixing deficits now that the economy is humming again, but we'll see.

Lil69Leo posted...

Hasn't done much besides take photo ops.

Senate reform? Carbon tax? Legalized medically-assisted suicide? Hell, he got rid of the ridiculous restrictions on government scientists speaking about their work and restored the long form census, which were two of Harper's dumbest moves.

Which is all without touching his less-flashy but no less important moves. To say he's done nothing is simply incorrect.
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Cuck/10
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