Board 8 > Jeff Zero & Leonhart in Different Houses: The Odyssey Concludes [JZLF]

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LeonhartFour
12/14/17 12:43:07 AM
#403:


In F/SN UBW, it turns out Shinji is Rider's Master, but soon he's not anyone's Master as Caster apparently kills her while he has everyone trapped within a bounded field at school. It's kind of sad that Rider is dead before we really get to see what she can do, but I guess that happened with Assassin in F/Z, too. He flees to Kirei for refuge, who says there's a Servant available with no Master if he wants to keep fighting. I thought he was talking about Assassin at first, but then Rin and Shirou spot Gilgamesh (I think) standing outside of the Mato house. I guess he was the dude talking to Sakura before, but that didn't occur to me because his face was obscured. Maybe he's trying to appeal to her to become a Master, but could he even become a Servant since there's already an Archer? Or could he enter as a different class? I have no idea. Maybe I'm totally wrong.

Anyway, the big question right now is who Caster's Master really is. Rin thinks it might be the student council president, and Shirou investigates the only way he knows how, which I totally saw coming. My initial thought was that Sakura would secretly turn out to be Caster's Master, but I had second thoughts when she was passed out during the whole episode with the bounded field. However, I guess it could still be the case since Archer believes the Servant has become the master and has whoever her Master is under some sort of mind control. I'm sure we'll find out soon.
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kateee
12/14/17 12:50:31 AM
#404:


gotta check out that Heaven's Feel route if you want more Rider
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LeonhartFour
12/14/17 12:51:56 AM
#405:


is that the other F/SN anime

because otherwise I guess I'll never find out
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kateee
12/14/17 12:53:44 AM
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it's the third route of the visual novel which is in the midst of getting a movie trilogy adaptation
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LeonhartFour
12/14/17 12:54:13 AM
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LeonhartFour
12/14/17 2:49:27 AM
#408:


All right, I decided to skip ahead and watch The Force Awakens with The Last Jedi coming out tomorrow. Yeah, that's a good movie. I think I'd still rank it behind all the OT movies, but it's not far behind.
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pyresword
12/14/17 6:28:56 AM
#409:


Yeah one thing about F/SN is that because of the way the VN is structured, a lot of characters (such as Rider) only end up getting significant screen time in 1 out of the 3 routes.
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xp1337
12/14/17 10:43:49 AM
#410:


Reached an ending in Chaos;Child.

that was quite the ride

Really strong ending. I was on a rollercoaster of "uh is this a bad end?" "wait actually did i stumble into the true end?" "wait i don't know what end this is help." Still not sure what end that was!

I shouldn't have been so quick to discard a lot of my early theories because they turned out to be right on! Guess it is now time to try and find route splits!

and also a translation for some spoken lines at the end that didn't have subtitles argh
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LeonhartFour
12/14/17 1:45:34 PM
#411:


I bought a movie ticket online for the first time ever

I will be going to the theater paranoid that I've done something wrong and they won't let me in
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dowolf
12/14/17 5:37:36 PM
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xp1337 posted...

and also a translation for some spoken lines at the end that didn't have subtitles argh

if you can get me a video, i can do that for you.

unless you managed to get an ending I haven't yet (I've only gotten one so far; you're gonna overtake me soon >_> Though I'd bet good money we both got the same first ending.)
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Leonhart4
12/14/17 9:29:46 PM
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Whew, I'm in to see The Last Jedi.

I'll phone on the verdict.
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Mac Arrowny
12/14/17 9:53:29 PM
#414:


Please don't post unmarked spoilers for this one
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LeonhartFour
12/15/17 12:44:54 AM
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LeonhartFour
12/15/17 1:25:04 AM
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xp1337
12/15/17 10:06:32 AM
#417:


dowolf posted...
if you can get me a video, i can do that for you.

unless you managed to get an ending I haven't yet (I've only gotten one so far; you're gonna overtake me soon >_> Though I'd bet good money we both got the same first ending.)

i'm too scared to search for ending videos right now >_>

Thanks though!

Oh, right, it was the Over Sky ending. The lines in particular were: What Serika says after the credits roll. I saw someone say it was something to the effect of, "Taku, did you get what you wanted?" but yeah. I'm guessing the issue was it was technically part of a movie or something and not in the normal format.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/15/17 1:47:11 PM
#418:


[Over sky end]

If that's the one you are looking for, I found the video for you:
*Chaos;Child spoiler*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdAktNM7loc&t=5533

The line starts at 1:32:14. I think the translation you got might be right, though.
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dowolf
12/15/17 2:06:03 PM
#419:


Yep, that's the one ending I've gotten, too. Hooray for my fellow always-pick-positive-delusion players >_>. This is also the only route done in the anime, fwiw.

The translation is slightly off; more accurate would be "Hey, Taku -- Did you get your wish? Did you get something you'd want to do?" This is, of course, playing back to the wish of his that spawned Serika.
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LeonhartFour
12/15/17 11:40:11 PM
#420:


hey guys I'm home after being out all day so I probably won't be watching or playing anything tonight since I'll be doing it all over again tomorrow
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LordoftheMorons
12/16/17 1:07:30 AM
#421:


Successfully watched The Last Jedi without getting spoiled!

Unlike TFA where some asshole on this board posted a topic spoiling Han's death a day or two before the movie even came out
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LeonhartFour
12/16/17 1:10:29 AM
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Good work! But yeah, I wanted to watch it as soon as possible to avoid getting spoiled, and I knew if I didn't watch it Thursday night, I wouldn't get a chance until Monday.
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Mac Arrowny
12/16/17 1:20:43 AM
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I got that spoiler a couple hours after I watched TFA, LotM, which made me glad I watched it as soon as I did. Only got to watch TLJ today, but managed to avoid spoilers anyway, so that was nice ^_^
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The Mana Sword
12/16/17 10:31:37 AM
#424:


Im still unspoiled but I need to make it to Monday night.
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pjbasis
12/16/17 2:41:47 PM
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LeonhartFour
12/16/17 5:32:21 PM
#426:


Yeah, I saw that earlier. I always seem to get into series at just the right time.
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LeonhartFour
12/16/17 8:04:10 PM
#427:


Okay, I think I'm going to start watching The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya tonight. My plan is to watch the parts that happen on each day on that exact day. So that means I'll be watching the prologue tonight and I'll finish up on the 21st. That should be fun.
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LeonhartFour
12/16/17 9:53:35 PM
#428:


In Yu Yu Hakusho, they really crapped the bed with the end of that Sensui arc, huh? So many copouts. That's a shame.
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LeonhartFour
12/16/17 10:49:31 PM
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In F/SN UBW, Caster's Master is revealed, and Shirou uses some projection magic to use Archer's blades to fend him off, albeit with some unintended physical consequences afterward. Then they spend a lot of time shipteasing Shirou/Rin, and then there's some philosophical discussion about why he does what he does, with both Rin and Archer fundamentally disagreeing with him only fighting to help others and not doing anything for himself.
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 1:01:50 AM
#430:


anyway I guess I'll post more stuff because why not

I'm still slowly reading through the fan translation of the Hyouka books. I'm on the third one now, which is the Cultural Festival arc. The first two books were exclusively from Hotaro's perspective, but I expected them to mix it up this time because there's no way you could do this arc just from his perspective because he spends most of the time alone in the club room. Sure enough, I was right! It alternates pretty freely between all four characters, and it even keeps track of how often they change perspectives and how often they switch to a particular character. They assigned a suit to each character, too. Hotaro is a Spade, Eru is a Heart, Mayaka is a Diamond, and Satoshi is a Club.

Also, I've still been reading the fan translation of the ReLIFE chapters that come out every week. Chizuru is still the best, if you were wondering.
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Mac Arrowny
12/17/17 1:28:21 AM
#431:


Eru PoV sounds interesting
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 1:47:45 AM
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It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect (which is still awesome, so that's not meant as a knock against it). She wears her heart on her sleeve. Still, it's interesting to be able to get into these characters' heads in a way that the anime just doesn't allow.
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pjbasis
12/17/17 1:50:38 AM
#433:


Yeahhh the very conclusion comes off very loose.
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pjbasis
12/17/17 2:09:04 AM
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 2:09:54 AM
#435:


boy if you're saying that during the 4-3 intro wait 'til you see the rest of the case
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 2:16:58 AM
#436:


Speaking of an "exactly what you'd expect" moment from Eru in Hyouka, I just came across this gem:

"Now on sale at the Geology Room on the fourth floor of the Special Block with rave reviews!" [Satoshi over the loudspeaker during the Quiz Contest]

Ehh? We're getting rave reviews already? I-I didn't even know. This is fantastic. I have hope for the future.

And another:

All these decorations and all this liveliness is just too captivating. It was at this moment that I envied Oreki-san's ability to not get excited by anything.
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LordoftheMorons
12/17/17 2:55:08 AM
#437:


4-3 does introduce one of my favorite AA characters...!
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 3:30:19 PM
#438:


Yeah, 4-3 has a couple of good characters in it, but it's still pretty much a hot mess.
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Shadow Dino
12/17/17 3:49:58 PM
#439:


Onwards to Chapter 6 of Trails SC.

Clock Down OP. Also, I got Titantic Roar on Tita, but unfortunately her EP pool sucks. Thus I've made Olivier and Kloe my other mages.

(I didn't want to make a separate topic for a playthrough that's already halfway done)
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 3:51:31 PM
#440:


I almost never used Clock Up or Clock Down. I guess I should have, but it's not like you really need it.
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pyresword
12/17/17 3:54:05 PM
#441:


I hated using Kloe because Water Arts sucked. I always ended up using Kevin instead even though he didn't have all 7 of his orbment slots linked. Also his S-Craft had some pretty good utility, and he is one of the few characters with access to CP regen through his normal crafts.
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pyresword
12/17/17 3:54:53 PM
#442:


Also I have been led to believe Clock Up/Down are nearly essential for Nightmare difficulty runs.

I never used them either though, as someone who played on Normal.
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 3:55:58 PM
#443:


I always used Kloe because she's great and because she has lots of healing available to her.
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 9:12:38 PM
#444:


Finished watching the prologue of Disappearance, and I was about to watch some YYH when I noticed the first two episodes of the Ace Attorney dub are up on Funimation now! Time to watch those instead!
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 10:25:29 PM
#445:


Okay, after a couple of episodes of the dub, I think I mostly like all the voices. Not totally digging Edgeworth's voice, but he only has a few lines in the first couple episodes, so I'll give it time. Maya's voice sounds a bit too childish, but her VA brings the right amount of energy and enthusiasm, so I'm sure I'll get used to it over time. The secret star so far is Redd White's VA. Dude's perfect for the role.
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LeonhartFour
12/17/17 11:37:27 PM
#446:


In Yu Yu Hakusho, just like at the beginning of Season 3, Yusuke quickly gets bored with "normal" life because he's a blood knight who only finds thrill and purpose in fighting. Genkai sends him to the original Spirit Detective for advice, and she pretty much looks like a female Sensui without the dot on her forehead. Eventually, three demons show up on behalf of Yusuke's demon king ancestor and asks him to come to Demon World so they can help him fight against two other kings because he's about to starve to death since he doesn't want to eat humans anymore or something. Yusuke doesn't totally buy the story and he's got good reasons not to, but I guess we'll get the truth (or at least more of the truth) next time.
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pjbasis
12/18/17 12:07:01 AM
#447:


Get ready for some interesting material and then disappointment
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 12:07:50 AM
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pjbasis posted...
Get ready for some interesting material and then disappointment


so what, basically Season 3 all over again?
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Mac Arrowny
12/18/17 12:46:28 AM
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It's totally different from S3. I like the final arc a lot. It helps that it's the shortest I think.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 12:49:13 AM
#450:


In the F/SN UBW season 1 finale, Shirou and Rin go on a date with Saber acting as their chaperone. Afterward, Caster ambushes them and manages to steal control of Saber away from Shirou thanks to her Noble Phantasm. Caster orders Saber to kill Rin, but Shirou takes the hit instead. Despite technically no longer being a Master, he still wants to fight so he can save Saber. Also, it's revealed that there's a Greater Grail (which is the reward for winning the reward) and a Lesser Grail, which the church supposedly keeps. Caster decides to kill Kirei in order to get it, but his ultimate fate is unclear at the moment.

Also, most of the other Servants make quick cameos to remind us that they're actually still around.
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dowolf
12/18/17 12:55:01 AM
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pyresword posted...
Also I have been led to believe Clock Up/Down are nearly essential for Nightmare difficulty runs.

can confirm, especially with regards to Clock Down. Inflicting -50% speed in an AoE is really good, and it works on a surprisingly large percentage of even the super late-game bosses. Clock Up EX is less good, since it's only single target and +50% speed is significantly less powerful than inflicting -50%, but it's still strong.

Though Earth Wall is still better than both of 'em obviously.
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pjbasis
12/18/17 12:55:03 AM
#452:


LeonhartFour posted...
pjbasis posted...
Get ready for some interesting material and then disappointment


so what, basically Season 3 all over again?


Yeah but the ratio for 3 is like 10:1 and this time it's more 1:1
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