Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 148: Don't Sexually Assault People

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TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:04:33 PM #151:	Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example. No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee. Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so. So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890575067] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example.</quote> No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee.</quote> Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so.</quote> So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/17/17 2:05:03 PM #152:	TheRock1525 posted... DoomTheGyarados posted... "Oh yeah, this one time a comedy sketch rehearsal went wrong, just want you to know that before hiring me." Like... that makes no sense why anyone would even feel the need to disclose that or even think about it. "And then I pretend groped her afterwards with photographic evidence." Do you expect anyone on the face of the planet to literally disclose that. I mean what phrasing would you even use? --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:890575098] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote>"Oh yeah, this one time a comedy sketch rehearsal went wrong, just want you to know that before hiring me." Like... that makes no sense why anyone would even feel the need to disclose that or even think about it.</quote> "And then I pretend groped her afterwards with photographic evidence."</quote> Do you expect anyone on the face of the planet to literally disclose that. I mean what phrasing would you even use?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/17/17 2:06:12 PM #153:	TheRock1525 posted... Mega Mana posted... New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them. Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything. Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly? --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890575153] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them.</quote> Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything.</quote> Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/17/17 2:08:21 PM #154:	TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example. No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee. Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so. So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide. Im NOT calling for him to drop out. I think he should lose since hes a serial pedophile, but hes who the people wanted. Thats on THEM. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890575274] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example.</quote> No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee.</quote> Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so.</quote> So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide.</quote> Im NOT calling for him to drop out. I think he should lose since hes a serial pedophile, but hes who the people wanted. Thats on THEM.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 11/17/17 2:09:25 PM #155:	TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example. No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee. Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so. So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide. Why the hell are you back to equating the two You're out for blood, I get it. But dude, you're acting like he's this cartoon villain who twisted his mustache when he was elected senator and went "Nyah ha! And they'll never know I kissed that woman, Muttly!" --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:890575333] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Let me ask, Rock. Do you believe Al Franken should be blackballed from ANY form of employment over this allegation? Because thats the argument youre making with your Walmart example.</quote> No, what I'm saying is that he failed to disclosed important information to his current employer, and that they should have the right to terminate him. And any future employers have the right to weigh that transgression in a decision to hire him. Along with weighing the apology, etc. It's like all those Neo-Nazis who found themselves fired from their jobs after appearing on TV in Charlottesville. New information was presented to a current employer that they failed to disclose, and it's well within their rights to terminate that employee.</quote> Thats what an election is called though. If voters (the employers) want him removed from his job, then they have the ability to choose a new representative. Youre asking for him to voluntarily terminate his employment without necessarily giving his employers the chance to weigh in on whether or not they want him to do so.</quote> So then don't call for Moore to drop out and let the people decide.</quote> Why the hell are you back to equating the two You're out for blood, I get it. But dude, you're acting like he's this cartoon villain who twisted his mustache when he was elected senator and went "Nyah ha! And they'll never know I kissed that woman, Muttly!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:12:04 PM #156:	Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Mega Mana posted... New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them. Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything. Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly? I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890575492] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them.</quote> Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything.</quote> Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly?</quote> I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:13:46 PM #157:	HashtagSEP posted... Why the hell are you back to equating the two I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890575586] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>Why the hell are you back to equating the two </quote> I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 11/17/17 2:15:12 PM #158:	Nelson_Mandela posted... If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work. lmao shoulda thought of that beforehand --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:890575660] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work.</quote> lmao shoulda thought of that beforehand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/17/17 2:16:41 PM #159:	TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Mega Mana posted... New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them. Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything. Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly? I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept. Im talking about, maybe since she never outwardly complained, he didnt realize this ONE incident was enough to warrant disclosure. I think youre being wildly irrational to expect him to disclose this if it truly is an isolated incident. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890575746] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them.</quote> Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything.</quote> Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly?</quote> I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept.</quote> Im talking about, maybe since she never outwardly complained, he didnt realize this ONE incident was enough to warrant disclosure. I think youre being wildly irrational to expect him to disclose this if it truly is an isolated incident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:21:11 PM #160:	Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Espeon posted... TheRock1525 posted... Mega Mana posted... New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them. Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything. Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly? I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept. Im talking about, maybe since she never outwardly complained, he didnt realize this ONE incident was enough to warrant disclosure. I think youre being wildly irrational to expect him to disclose this if it truly is an isolated incident. You're asked to hold one of the highest offices in the land, where only 100 people out of 300 million get to hold it at any given time. You should demand the highest level of scrutiny for everyone that wants to hold this job. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890576008] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote>New information presented from a present occurrence. They went to the rally while also employed by the employer firing them.</quote> Does this even matter? If I hid from my employer something that the employer should know about, it doesn't matter how long ago it occurred, you should be willing and able to disclose anything.</quote> Youre acting like he physically chose to hide damning information. If he didnt know the incident was a problem, how could he deliberately hide that? Seriously, you JUST showed incredulity about that Ohio politician coming out about his sexual history so like...what do you WANT, exactly?</quote> I have no idea what the hell you're even talking about anymore. He KNEW there was photographic evidence of it. If he didn't know, it means he does shit like that on a regular basis and didn't think twice about it. On the flipside, Al Franken was fucking married at the time. Why would he feel the need to pull a woman's head in and put his tongue in her mouth for the sake of a sketch? And the fact that going forward she would always turn her head for the sake of the act and that he gave petty insults towards her the rest of the tour (and the fact that she wasn't willing to talk to him the rest of the tour) pretty much shows to him she was upset about it. He could have squashed the whole thing that day. Instead he took the stupidest, pettiest route by fake groping her while she slept.</quote> Im talking about, maybe since she never outwardly complained, he didnt realize this ONE incident was enough to warrant disclosure. I think youre being wildly irrational to expect him to disclose this if it truly is an isolated incident.</quote> You're asked to hold one of the highest offices in the land, where only 100 people out of 300 million get to hold it at any given time. You should demand the highest level of scrutiny for everyone that wants to hold this job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/17/17 2:22:46 PM #161:	That'd make sense if you didn't do the silly Wal-Mart example earlier, though. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:890576106] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>That'd make sense if you didn't do the silly Wal-Mart example earlier, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 11/17/17 2:24:46 PM #162:	TheRock1525 posted... HashtagSEP posted... Why the hell are you back to equating the two I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race. I don't think either should drop out But I do think basically equating them by going "Well they should resign/drop out/whatever" is pretty weird --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:890576224] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>Why the hell are you back to equating the two </quote> I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race.</quote> I don't think either should drop out But I do think basically equating them by going "Well they should resign/drop out/whatever" is pretty weird</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:25:49 PM #163:	DoomTheGyarados posted... That'd make sense if you didn't do the silly Wal-Mart example earlier, though. Because I don't expect Wal-Mart to scrutinize to that level when hiring you. But I would expect them to react that way when the information comes to light and they'd be more than within their means to fire someone for that behavior. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890576281] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote>That'd make sense if you didn't do the silly Wal-Mart example earlier, though.</quote> Because I don't expect Wal-Mart to scrutinize to that level when hiring you. But I would expect them to react that way when the information comes to light and they'd be more than within their means to fire someone for that behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:26:49 PM #164:	HashtagSEP posted... TheRock1525 posted... HashtagSEP posted... Why the hell are you back to equating the two I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race. I don't think either should drop out But I do think basically equating them by going "Well they should resign/drop out/whatever" is pretty weird I want Franken to resign. I want Moore to be prosecuted but don't know if he can be due to statute of limitations. Did you not see that earlier? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890576331] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>Why the hell are you back to equating the two </quote> I'm not. And at least Inviso is being consistent if she really doesn't want Moore to drop out of the race.</quote> I don't think either should drop out But I do think basically equating them by going "Well they should resign/drop out/whatever" is pretty weird</quote> I want Franken to resign. I want Moore to be prosecuted but don't know if he can be due to statute of limitations. Did you not see that earlier?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/17/17 2:29:03 PM #165:	It always makes me uncomfortable when people go further than the victim. Like, who are any of us to go "you didn't ask for enough punishment" or something. I thought the exchange between both of them felt genuine. If it was a one time thing I am ready to move on like she has. Probably going to be more of these stories coming out. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:890576438] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>It always makes me uncomfortable when people go further than the victim. Like, who are any of us to go "you didn't ask for enough punishment" or something. I thought the exchange between both of them felt genuine. If it was a one time thing I am ready to move on like she has. Probably going to be more of these stories coming out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/17/17 2:29:13 PM #166:	The other problem Im having with your reaction is that its detrimental to the fight for sexual harassment allegations to be taken seriously. I mean, you want to compare Moore and Franken, so lets do it. Franken is accused by a single woman of an unwanted kiss and miming groping afterwards. He has been scorned and shamed, rightfully so, has apologized, called for an investigation into his own actions, and had his apology accepted. Moore is accused by NINE women of sexual misconduct and pedophilia. He has been scorned and shamed, rightfully so, but has otherwise denied all allegations and instead accused his accusers of lying for political gain. By your method, youre creating a scenario where there is ZERO reason to EVER accept responsibility for your actions, when the response is the same whether you apologize or deny. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890576452] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>The other problem Im having with your reaction is that its detrimental to the fight for sexual harassment allegations to be taken seriously. I mean, you want to compare Moore and Franken, so lets do it. Franken is accused by a single woman of an unwanted kiss and miming groping afterwards. He has been scorned and shamed, rightfully so, has apologized, called for an investigation into his own actions, and had his apology accepted. Moore is accused by NINE women of sexual misconduct and pedophilia. He has been scorned and shamed, rightfully so, but has otherwise denied all allegations and instead accused his accusers of lying for political gain. By your method, youre creating a scenario where there is ZERO reason to EVER accept responsibility for your actions, when the response is the same whether you apologize or deny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:32:22 PM #167:	I give up. I keep telling you I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment but you keep putting words in my mouth that I do. Even though I've now repeatedly said I would want Moore fucking prosecuted. Just because I don't want both in the Senate doesn't mean that I want Franken fucking thrown in jail, too. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890576625] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>I give up. I keep telling you I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment but you keep putting words in my mouth that I do. Even though I've now repeatedly said I would want Moore fucking prosecuted. Just because I don't want both in the Senate doesn't mean that I want Franken fucking thrown in jail, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 11/17/17 2:35:19 PM #168:	TheRock1525 posted... I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment TheRock1525 posted... I don't want both in the Senate i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:890576796] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment</quote> <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want both in the Senate</quote> i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 2:38:30 PM #169:	FFDragon posted... TheRock1525 posted... I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment TheRock1525 posted... I don't want both in the Senate i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too Which is a pretty important fucking distinction. It's like the difference between a DUI and a guy killing someone with a DUI. Both should have their licenses taken away but one's probably gonna get some serious jail time out of it. No one goes "you're giving the same punishment to someone driving buzzed as someone committing vehicular manslaughter!" --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890577002] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment</quote> <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want both in the Senate</quote> i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too</quote> Which is a pretty important fucking distinction. It's like the difference between a DUI and a guy killing someone with a DUI. Both should have their licenses taken away but one's probably gonna get some serious jail time out of it. No one goes "you're giving the same punishment to someone driving buzzed as someone committing vehicular manslaughter!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 11/17/17 2:39:18 PM #170:	And now we have people (not in this topic as far as I'm aware) advocating the 'mike pence rule' or the 'Billy Graham Rule" --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:890577043] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>And now we have people (not in this topic as far as I'm aware) advocating the 'mike pence rule' or the 'Billy Graham Rule"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 11/17/17 2:41:19 PM #172:	UltimaterializerX posted... DoomTheGyarados posted... It always makes me uncomfortable when people go further than the victim. Like, who are any of us to go "you didn't ask for enough punishment" or something. I thought the exchange between both of them felt genuine. If it was a one time thing I am ready to move on like she has. Probably going to be more of these stories coming out. Of course she doesnt want him to resign given how people who challenge democrats are routinely killed. Donna Brazile didnt dedicate her book to Seth Rich by accident. And of course Harrich doesnt want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp. Lmfao --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:890577139] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>UltimaterializerX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote>It always makes me uncomfortable when people go further than the victim. Like, who are any of us to go "you didn't ask for enough punishment" or something. I thought the exchange between both of them felt genuine. If it was a one time thing I am ready to move on like she has. Probably going to be more of these stories coming out.</quote> Of course she doesnt want him to resign given how people who challenge democrats are routinely killed. Donna Brazile didnt dedicate her book to Seth Rich by accident. And of course Harrich doesnt want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp.</quote> Lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/17/17 2:41:46 PM #173:	Nelson_Mandela posted... If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work. Ummmm What? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:890577161] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work.</quote> Ummmm What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 11/17/17 2:41:57 PM #174:	time to bail, everyone discourse is dead --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:890577170] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>time to bail, everyone discourse is dead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/17/17 2:42:33 PM #175:	UltimaterializerX posted... And of course Harrich doesnt want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp. Reported --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:890577195] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>UltimaterializerX posted...</cite> <quote> And of course Harrich doesnt want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp.</quote> Reported</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Espeon 11/17/17 2:42:56 PM #177:	TheRock1525 posted... FFDragon posted... TheRock1525 posted... I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment TheRock1525 posted... I don't want both in the Senate i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too Which is a pretty important fucking distinction. It's like the difference between a DUI and a guy killing someone with a DUI. Both should have their licenses taken away but one's probably gonna get some serious jail time out of it. No one goes "you're giving the same punishment to someone driving buzzed as someone committing vehicular manslaughter!" I prefer my example of giving a first time pickpocket 20 years in prison and armed robbery a life sentence, since your way is equating losing your job to losing your license. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890577218] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want Moore and Franken to receive the same punishment</quote> <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't want both in the Senate</quote> i mean, that is the same punishment you just want additional moore punishment too</quote> Which is a pretty important fucking distinction. It's like the difference between a DUI and a guy killing someone with a DUI. Both should have their licenses taken away but one's probably gonna get some serious jail time out of it. No one goes "you're giving the same punishment to someone driving buzzed as someone committing vehicular manslaughter!"</quote> I prefer my example of giving a first time pickpocket 20 years in prison and armed robbery a life sentence, since your way is equating losing your job to losing your license.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 11/17/17 2:42:58 PM #178:	dedcourse --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:890577221] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>dedcourse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esuriat 11/17/17 2:43:41 PM #180:	you have now arrived at your destination, the "no nuance zone" --- Essy <cite>Esuriat posted [p:890577256] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>you have now arrived at your destination, the "no nuance zone"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 11/17/17 2:45:35 PM #182:	http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/male-feminist-i-really-think-id-absolutely-crush-i-7018 --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:890577377] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/male-feminist-i-really-think-id-absolutely-crush-i-7018</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/17/17 2:46:41 PM #183:	The title alone. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:890577452] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>The title alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 11/17/17 2:54:56 PM #184:	Jakyl25 posted... UltimaterializerX posted... And of course Harrich doesn?t want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp. Reported Thank you. --- Posted using GameFlux <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:890577937] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UltimaterializerX posted...</cite> <quote> And of course Harrich doesn?t want him out. Proves my every point about that little twerp.</quote> Reported</quote> Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 11/17/17 3:17:05 PM #185:	https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16649034/lapd-police-plant-evidence-ronald-shields :/ --- H E Y W A S S H I L E T S E N J O Y K A G A W A L I F E <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:890579145] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16649034/lapd-police-plant-evidence-ronald-shields :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/17/17 3:24:35 PM #186:	Moore should resign if allegations are true. And resigning due to the allegations I believe is admitting guilt. Franken shouldn't resign at all. He made jokes in poor taste. Hardly disqualifies him from public office. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:890579547] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>Moore should resign if allegations are true. And resigning due to the allegations I believe is admitting guilt. Franken shouldn't resign at all. He made jokes in poor taste. Hardly disqualifies him from public office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 11/17/17 3:27:19 PM #187:	Gerry Adams is stepping down as leader of Sinn Fin. I mainly bring this up because it marks the end of a major European political party being led by an actual terrorist. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh BKSheikah <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:890579693] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>Gerry Adams is stepping down as leader of Sinn Fin. I mainly bring this up because it marks the end of a major European political party being led by an actual terrorist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/17/17 3:38:24 PM #188:	LapisLazuli posted... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16649034/lapd-police-plant-evidence-ronald-shields :/ This one I actually do believe as potentially being a "recreation" of some type, since it's clear they laid all of his stuff out on the sidewalk, since you can see a phone, the wallet, and the bag of cocaine laying in a row before he does anything At the least, the cocaine was already laying there next to the wallet. It's strange. I lean toward thinking they didn't plant it since it was already laying next to the other stuff, but I'm confused why the cop also appeared to ask whose wallet it was if he was doing a recreation --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:890580234] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16649034/lapd-police-plant-evidence-ronald-shields :/</quote> This one I actually do believe as potentially being a "recreation" of some type, since it's clear they laid all of his stuff out on the sidewalk, since you can see a phone, the wallet, and the bag of cocaine laying in a row before he does anything At the least, the cocaine was already laying there next to the wallet. It's strange. I lean toward thinking they didn't plant it since it was already laying next to the other stuff, but I'm confused why the cop also appeared to ask whose wallet it was if he was doing a recreation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 11/17/17 3:40:43 PM #189:	Corrik posted... Moore should resign if allegations are true. And resigning due to the allegations I believe is admitting guilt. Franken shouldn't resign at all. He made jokes in poor taste. Hardly disqualifies him from public office. The presser Moores wife did today was something. It denied nothing she just went "Isnt it disgusting that WASHINGTON ELITES looked into My husband's past and oh yeah Doug Jones loves transgenders in the military and in the wrong bathrooms and we know alabamas values say NO to that" --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:890580401] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Moore should resign if allegations are true. And resigning due to the allegations I believe is admitting guilt. Franken shouldn't resign at all. He made jokes in poor taste. Hardly disqualifies him from public office.</quote> The presser Moores wife did today was something. It denied nothing she just went "Isnt it disgusting that WASHINGTON ELITES looked into My husband's past and oh yeah Doug Jones loves transgenders in the military and in the wrong bathrooms and we know alabamas values say NO to that"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 11/17/17 3:42:52 PM #190:	Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work. Ummmm What? Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:890580545] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work.</quote> Ummmm What?</quote> Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/17/17 3:43:09 PM #191:	I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:890580562] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/17/17 3:48:04 PM #192:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work. Ummmm What? Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line? How fast do you lean in to kiss someone the first time? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890580865] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work.</quote> Ummmm What?</quote> Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line?</quote> How fast do you lean in to kiss someone the first time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 11/17/17 3:48:12 PM #193:	StealThisSheen posted... I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more Aggregate polls have them as a toss-up, though some of the most recent polls have Jones with a non-margin of error lead. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:890580873] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more</quote> Aggregate polls have them as a toss-up, though some of the most recent polls have Jones with a non-margin of error lead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 11/17/17 3:49:46 PM #194:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work. Ummmm What? Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line? How fast do you lean in to kiss someone the first time? Maybe I have kissed more women than most people in this topic, but sometimes you have to just go for it so you can both confirm if there is chemistry there. There may be a time or two when the girl says "wtf why did you do that?" It happens, especially with alcohol involved. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:890580958] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> If a single incident unwanted kissing and inappropriate joking are enough to warrant termination of employment, then 80% of men (myself included) would be out of work.</quote> Ummmm What?</quote> Have you never misread a situation and kissed a girl who wasn't really into you? I know it's different than forcing someone like Franken did, but where do we draw the line?</quote> How fast do you lean in to kiss someone the first time?</quote> Maybe I have kissed more women than most people in this topic, but sometimes you have to just go for it so you can both confirm if there is chemistry there. There may be a time or two when the girl says "wtf why did you do that?" It happens, especially with alcohol involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/17/17 3:50:47 PM #195:	Yeah, recent polls have started leaning towards Jones but part of me will only believe it when I see it. Aside from being a deep red state there's things like whether people are willing to say to a pollster they intend to vote for Moore. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:890581021] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, recent polls have started leaning towards Jones but part of me will only believe it when I see it. Aside from being a deep red state there's things like whether people are willing to say to a pollster they intend to vote for Moore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/17/17 3:52:12 PM #196:	I can't bring myself to believe polls anymore --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:890581112] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>I can't bring myself to believe polls anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/17/17 3:53:06 PM #197:	xp1337 posted... Aside from being a deep red state there's things like whether people are willing to say to a pollster they intend to vote for Moore. Also this --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:890581159] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>Aside from being a deep red state there's things like whether people are willing to say to a pollster they intend to vote for Moore.</quote> Also this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/17/17 3:56:43 PM #198:	charmander6000 posted... StealThisSheen posted... I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more Aggregate polls have them as a toss-up, though some of the most recent polls have Jones with a non-margin of error lead. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/16/roy-moore-doug-jones-alabama-poll-245558 Yeah, I 100% believe that some people are too embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for Moore and he's going to end up winning by like 10 points. Hopefully Senate Republicans do the right thing. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:890581361] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote><cite>charmander6000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I would not even remotely be surprised if Moore still wins Not because people think he's innocent, but because they just don't care/hate other stuff like "THOSE TRANSGENDERS" more</quote> Aggregate polls have them as a toss-up, though some of the most recent polls have Jones with a non-margin of error lead.</quote> https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/16/roy-moore-doug-jones-alabama-poll-245558 Yeah, I 100% believe that some people are too embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for Moore and he's going to end up winning by like 10 points. Hopefully Senate Republicans do the right thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 11/17/17 3:59:40 PM #199:	I've "miss-kissed" a couple of women. I've never had a woman physically turn away or push me away - they simply don't reciprocate the kiss and it awkwardly ends things. So yeah I do know what SephG is talking about, but the Franken story is about a million times scummier. --- Yoblazer http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:890581545] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>I've "miss-kissed" a couple of women. I've never had a woman physically turn away or push me away - they simply don't reciprocate the kiss and it awkwardly ends things. So yeah I do know what SephG is talking about, but the Franken story is about a million times scummier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/17/17 3:59:48 PM #200:	Sephys point is right. I will fully admit that Ive only ever made out with one girl in my life. Shes a friend of mine and it happened several times in college, even getting to second base (and before this comes across like stealth bragging, I fully admit that I am a nice guy or beta in our current relationship.). If she were to come to me at some point in the future and tell me the whole thing made her uncomfortable (but she went along with it out of fear of damaging the friendship or something, I dunno), then she is totally justified in feeling that way. It wouldnt make me some kind of monster. It just means I wouldve misread the situation, and I could at least TRY to apologize. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:890581554] in Politics C... [t:75999939]...</cite> <quote>Sephys point is right. I will fully admit that Ive only ever made out with one girl in my life. Shes a friend of mine and it happened several times in college, even getting to second base (and before this comes across like stealth bragging, I fully admit that I am a nice guy or beta in our current relationship.). If she were to come to me at some point in the future and tell me the whole thing made her uncomfortable (but she went along with it out of fear of damaging the friendship or something, I dunno), then she is totally justified in feeling that way. It wouldnt make me some kind of monster. It just means I wouldve misread the situation, and I could at least TRY to apologize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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