Current Events > Bat vs. Knife. Which weapon would win in a fight? >_>

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You're in a fight to the death with another man equal to your size. You're offered either an aluminum baseball bat or a 6-inch non-serrated knife, knowing the other weapon you don't choose goes to your opponent. Which would you choose?
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Bat. More range.
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I'd take the knife because I know I could take a few thwacks but wouldn't be able to deal with a stab
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Silverback bat? Knife planned ahead or anything?
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You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.
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Insanity216 posted...

You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.

Why are you assuming the guy with the bat will take a full swing tho
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scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.

Why are you assuming the guy with the bat will take a full swing tho

What is he gonna do? Poke me with it?
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Insanity216 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.

Why are you assuming the guy with the bat will take a full swing tho

What is he gonna do? Poke me with it?

For example? You do realize you can use a bat to hurt people without taking full swings, right?
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You block da bat with an arm, it might break but da other guy is screwed when you swing da knife numerous times at him
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PikachuMaxwell posted...

Bat. More range.

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Bat
I'll stand several feet away while you try and dash in and out of my range before I smash your head open.
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scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.

Why are you assuming the guy with the bat will take a full swing tho

What is he gonna do? Poke me with it?

For example? You do realize you can use a bat to hurt people without taking full swings, right?

Yea, but it won't do as much damage as a full swing. What might work against an unarmed person certainly won't cut it against someone fighting back with a knife.
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Bat
I'll stand several feet away while you try and dash in and out of my range before I smash your head open.

You dont need to dash in and out with a knife. You pounce and go wild. Dude with knife sprints toward you with his arms up protecting his head until hes right on top of you. You might shatter his arm witha solid blow but you wont be able to stop him from reaching you. And when hes on you the bat wont be able to do a whole lot while the dude carves you up.
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Insanity216 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Insanity216 posted...

You dodge one swing from a bat and it is over.

Why are you assuming the guy with the bat will take a full swing tho

What is he gonna do? Poke me with it?

For example? You do realize you can use a bat to hurt people without taking full swings, right?

Yea, but it won't do as much damage as a full swing. What might work against an unarmed person certainly won't cut it against someone fighting back with a knife.

You don't need to deal 9999 HP damage. You need to keep the distance. With no protective gear, a light bat blow will still hurt like hell no matter where it lands.
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I vote knife. If you can tank a hit with the bat to the shoulder, you can go right and stab them with the knife repeatedly. Yes, the bat has more range, but you also need more power and windup to swing the bat, and if you miss, you're wide open. The knife doesn't need as much power to do a stab and can be quickly pulled back for another attempt >_>
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knife easily, bat is non lethal or too slow
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wasserpanzer posted...

knife easily, bat is non lethal or too slow

What I'm picturing in my head is again range plus I don't think you've ever been hit with a bat in your life.
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Yaridovich posted...

I'd take the knife because I know I could take a few thwacks but wouldn't be able to deal with a stab

This is my line of thought.

If you can block the bat strike with your arm it will break, but you can still fight, you got a chance. If you get slashed it's game over.

Even an idiot flailing a knife can hurt you. Flailing a bat, not so much

Bat. Why are people assuming the guy with the bat is just standing there like an idiot?
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bat. just don't miss the first swing
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Who am I fighting? the knife can be thrown easily and if I had a good reason to suspect they could be accurate, I'd be dead if I chose the bat.

Bat would be better in any other context, though.
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SamuelHayden posted...

Yaridovich posted...

I'd take the knife because I know I could take a few thwacks but wouldn't be able to deal with a stab

This is my line of thought.

If you can block the bat strike with your arm it will break, but you can still fight, you got a chance. If you get slashed it's game over.

Even an idiot flailing a knife can hurt you. Flailing a bat, not so much

just because you get cut by a knife doesn't mean it's game over have you ever seen somebody getting attacked by machete? Also you never been hit by bat.
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victims in prison stabbing attacks get stabbed like 80 times and still live sometimes.
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How is the guy with the bat keeping his distance, exactly? It's not like you can backpedal anywhere near as quickly as you can lunge at somehow. Taking a swing with a bat while moving backwards is even harder, since it needs to be swung with two hands and the whole body to have a chance of doing enough damage to actually break bones, knock out, or kill. Just waving it with one hand isn't going to throw someone fueled on an adrenaline dump off you. And then the bat has a minimum range where it's almost completely ineffective.
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The bat because it'd be hard to hit and it can inflict rabies if it connects successfully.
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I'd line to know why people think they still have chance after "blocking" a strike from the bat. Your arm is fucking shattered. Most people I know would fall to ground curled up in a ball. Your not gonna just power through it like some bad ass in movie. The moment your arm breaks in half your fucking done
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psvitantifail posted...

SamuelHayden posted...

Yaridovich posted...

I'd take the knife because I know I could take a few thwacks but wouldn't be able to deal with a stab

This is my line of thought.

If you can block the bat strike with your arm it will break, but you can still fight, you got a chance. If you get slashed it's game over.

Even an idiot flailing a knife can hurt you. Flailing a bat, not so much

just because you get cut by a knife doesn't mean it's game over have you ever seen somebody getting attacked by machete? Also you never been hit by bat.

Getting hit by a bat is most likely a 1 hit KO. If you block the swing with your arm at the right time it will break your arm.

But imagine getting slashed full force even if you block with your arm, there is no coming back.

Tell me more about the machete attack I haven't seen it

a machete is closer to an axe than a knife. it's not a valid comparison.
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SamuelHayden posted...

psvitantifail posted...

SamuelHayden posted...

Yaridovich posted...

I'd take the knife because I know I could take a few thwacks but wouldn't be able to deal with a stab

This is my line of thought.

If you can block the bat strike with your arm it will break, but you can still fight, you got a chance. If you get slashed it's game over.

Even an idiot flailing a knife can hurt you. Flailing a bat, not so much

just because you get cut by a knife doesn't mean it's game over have you ever seen somebody getting attacked by machete? Also you never been hit by bat.

Getting hit by a bat is most likely a 1 hit KO. If you block the swing with your arm at the right time it will break your arm.

But imagine getting slashed full force even if you block with your arm, there is no coming back.

Tell me more about the machete attack I haven't seen it

I thought you was trying to say they getting slashed was one hit one killed because I've seen several instances where somebody gets slashed by blades/ machetes and still able to walk around and Perry until their arms break unfortunately I can't link that stuff here lol. With bat or a blunt object it seems better because it has more impact and can crack bones more easier.
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Bat with time to prep

But for real though the bat. It has reach and can break bones
And I'd love to see all these people here tanking hits from a bat that is breaking bones and still getting a knife slash off lol
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Uncle_Drew posted...

Bat with time to prep

But for real though the bat. It has reach and can break bones
And I'd love to see all these people here tanking hits from a bat that is breaking bones and still getting a knife slash off lol

Again, though, the bat is not going to be breaking bones without a committed swing and follow-through. The bat gets one chance, and the knife user can stop the swing before it builds momentum if he's close enough.
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Anybody that uses a bat like, well, a baseball bat is likely going to end up losing the fight. One's goal when using a bat in a melee would be to try to get the other guy to drop their weapon first before going hog wild on them by attacking their arms and hands first.
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Paragon21XX posted...

Anybody that uses a bat like, well, a baseball bat is likely going to end up losing the fight. One's goal when using a bat in a melee would be to try to get the other guy to drop their weapon first before going hog wild on them by attacking their arms and hands first.

yes. using the bat takes skill, using the knife takes considerably less.

One stab to the neck just behind the clavicle in a downward angle is all it takes to puncture the lung and cause a pneumothorax. Given the stance someone will have with a bat, just go for the left side (assuming a righty). Realistically the range isn't enough of a difference that going "all-in" wouldn't let either party get one good "attack" in. Shattered radius/ulna versus pneumothorax.

Also this whole shtick about the bat having range....just wait for the bat to strike first (hah). The knife user will have to counter to have any chance. Lunging first is probably asking to just get knocked out. Probably more chance the knife misses, but if we're assuming two people of equal size/strength/skill, I mean...I agree with the other guy. Bat gets one chance to get the momentum, otherwise knife probably wins.

Then again, I'm not from the hood so the fuck do I know.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-m4_0q9Ftg
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ITT: People that have never been hit with a bat and think that they could wield a knife like a pro.
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To anyone who thinks they can tank a hit from a bat with their arm. Go smash your arm against the corner of a deal or something with a moderate amount of force. Watch how your body takes a shit while you try to protect your gimped out arm out of instinct.

A bat would probably beat a knife user of equal skill every time. One swing drops the other guy or incapacitates him. Even if he misses and the life closes some distance you can still double hand the bat to push him away or last resort pin him down and go for a choke or bunting bash
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Why does nobody ever think that the guy with the bat might swing for the knees instead? Take someone's leg out from underneath them and they're hitting the ground
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Saw one fight long time ago (on the internet) of a guy with a machete vs. a long pipe. Guy with pipe won due to range
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You could probably use the bat to knock the knife out of the other guys hand, or at least hit the the arm they're holding it with. Can't really knock a bat out of someones' hand with a knife.
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Bat definitely. Range is everything in that kind of fight. I could possibly even disarm him with the bat, or at least break his arm as soon as he tries to take a stab.
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qyll3 posted...

Saw one fight long time ago (on the internet) of a guy with a machete vs. a long pipe. Guy with pipe won due to range

how did machete guy react to the first hit? Did machete guy get any slashes or stabs in?

Bat, because no one can kill bat man with a puny knife.
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the_rowan posted...

How is the guy with the bat keeping his distance, exactly? It's not like you can backpedal anywhere near as quickly as you can lunge at somehow.

By striking light blows if the opponent steps into range? A light blow from a bat anywhere on your body will hurt like hell.
If you're rushing in, you're opening yourself to a heavy AF blow. I don't see how a downward strike could be stopped by holding up your arm. Head or clavicle breaks.
Essentially the whole fight will break down into a waiting game with some feints and distance play. Knife guy probably wins if he's good at throwing knives though.
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People saying bat is better due to range dont know what theyre talking about. It wont be like the movies where both people are slowly circling each other and taking occasional swings. Dude with the knife will charge at you and be slashing and stabbing and will likely be ON TOP of you, leaving you virtually no room to strike. Even if you do hit him before he pounces on you, hes not going to be phased due to adrenaline, just like how you probably wont even feel the stabs and cuts until the fight is over.

Assuming you can get away from him and hit him in a vital area, and assuming he failed to hit zero vital areas, youve still been stabbed and cut several times in that first couple of seconds and will be losing a lot of blood. Doesnt seem like a win to me.

And if it were a random unprovoked attack on the street and you just happen to be carrying a bat in your hands, unless knife dude is an idiot, you wont even know he has a knife until hes already done his damage.
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you're probably going to want to jab with the bat instead of swinging it. same idea as hitting someone in the chest with a knee -- they're fucking done.
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A knife is always better.

Range means nothing one miss step with the bat and its over.
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This is how a bat man fights. Never underestimate the bat. Swinging is not the only attack it can do.

https://youtu.be/6LcQcHfal1o?t=28s