Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 11: The Holy War Is Nigh!

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Grimmer posted...

Do we even know for certain that Mia, Dorcas, and Lute are bonus units?

Past trends would suggest yes.

I really hope there will be no new banner and the last bonus unit is BIke or BLyn because then i can skip FH banner altogether. I do want Mia, but Halloween is limited time and need to save some orbs for the Fjorm banner.
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Mia, Dorcas, Lute, Brave Ike confirmed 40% bonus units

Joshua and the other braves are the 20%

so at least i can wait on Lute until after we get 100 more spaces and maybe summon from 8% a bit first (though i'm now up to 3.75% on Lute's banner so not too far off for overall 5* chance).

got a free Brave Lucina to complete the set. -atk +res, but can't complain about free.
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Brave Ike huh

Well guess I don't need to shoot for Lute right away then.
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Nice, Brave Ike is the bonus. Looks like I can safely skip this banner. And likely fates and legendary heroes too

Free summon was Delthea! +Hp -Def. Miles better than my -Atk +Def one
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Sweet, i can skip FH banner AND TT will be a cinch.
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Oh boy, the one Brave character I didn't get.

(oh well, I got Dorcas and Lute, so I'm good)
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Bump
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Got chain broken on the Halloween banner by Merric.

Pulled the other Green disappointed and got my Henry anyway.

Hector/Effie/BK/Halloween Henry team is go.
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Looks like I'll be staying in Tier 20 for the first time ever. Neat!

Serra is one of the bonus units for the next season. Paging Lopen!
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Well this may be my first legitimate attempt to hit Tier 19 with my +7 Wrathful Staff Serra being able to be brought instead of heavy bonus units.
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I don't understand why they refuse to demote crappy units.
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Assuming you mean 5* units being dropped to lower rarities, I feel like it'll happen eventually.

Like 5* is already way too full, and there are a lot of 5*s that frankly shouldn't be of that rarity when compared to more recent 5* where you actually get bang for your buck in the form of exclusive skills. Stuff like Camilla, Jeorge, Nowi, Cain etc etc
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A good start would be demoting every unit that isn't a 5* exclusive.
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Yeah basically

4-5* should almost all become 3-4*, with the exception of the ones with rare inheritable skills, those can remain 4-5*
5* without a rare inheritable skill should become 4-5*

I think that would flatten the field pretty well. Would make a lot less garbage off banner 5*s possible too.
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Eventually is too long. Needs to happen now. Just look at how long it took for them to buff healers. It sucks they need to be 5* to even receive the benefit.
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Requiring a character to be 5* to get the top level version of their weapon is normal. I guess support skills usually aren't 5* only, though.
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heroes with +10 damage on specials. Karel, Nephenee, Sonya.

of course we'd get Nephenee back now. throw every temptation at me at once, that way i can actually save orbs when they all end.
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pulled dorcas on a 2 green 3 blue roll

sucks. dorcas is the better unit for me to pull but i really wanted mia cuz CUTE GURL
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woot i got Lute! perfect stats, too, with +spd -HP. even if she drops to 4* later i'd say it was worth it for 100ish orbs.

now i'm not sure whether to go for Nephenee, Ayra, or save. i should probably save but i kinda doubt i actually will.
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Nice. I think your odds will be a little better to get Nephenee, but if Ike and Celica are good consolation prizes to you, that may make more sense.

If you don't care about fates children then you'll have some time to recoup. I'll probably just summon the non blue orbs on the free summon session and call it quits. Nowi and Hinoka took so many of my orbs that stockpiling sounds smarter to me.
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i don't care about Fates children but that game has sucked up a lot of my orbs despite not playing it. 3/4 of my flying team is from it, plus both Azuras. probably took like, 700 orbs to get all that. so it really depends on the art, voices and skills.
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They released a trailer on the Legendary Heroes banner, but the only new info is Fjorm's skills.


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Holy shit, she shits on Sharena so badly.
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Servers up, update live, and Fjorm is available.
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Update released with the weapon refinery.

Hauteclare (Minerva, Michalis) gets its original effect + Wo Dao effect.
Mystletainn (Eldigan) gets its original effect + Fury 3, which gives Eldigan Fury 6.
Siegmund (Ephraim) gets Hone Attack 4 and Brash Assault but above 90% HP instead.
Sol Katti (Lyn) gets Desperation 3 and Brash Assault but under 75% HP instead.
Fujin Yumi (Takumi) gets to go through trees above 50% HP or more. Also, gets Halloween Nowi's warping effect at 50% or above.
Deathly Dagger (Jaffar) deals 10 damage to target and foes within 2 spaces. It also gets Firesweep powers.
All Dragon Breath attacks attack Def/Res on 2-range enemies, whichever stat is lower. Special shoutout to Light Breath for +5 to every stat within 2 spaces upon initiating an attack. Dark Breath also gets Atk/Spd Smoke 3 as an effect.
Zanbato and Ridersbane both nullify cavalry bonuses.
Berkut's Lance (Berkut) gives Res+7 when unit is attacked.
Guard's Bow grants Def/Res+6 when attacked by ranged units, basically Distant Defense 3.
Staff users can get their weapon upgraded into having a Wrathful or Dazzling Staff effect.
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SSBM_Guy posted...

Staff users can get their weapon upgraded into having a Wrathful or Dazzling Staff effect.

Oh? You mean my Wrathful Staff drawing was unnecessary?

Fuck off, game.
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https://i.redd.it/79z52mfnfn001.png

hello Fate kids
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SSBM_Guy posted...

Mystletainn (Eldigan) gets its original effect + Fury 3, which gives Eldigan Fury 6.

This is really amusing to me.

he's just so darn angry :3
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I guess I can forgive it though

Hell yeah two Tharjas coming soon.
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Daggers got a huge buff with the weapon refinery, woah.
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Lopen posted...

SSBM_Guy posted...

Staff users can get their weapon upgraded into having a Wrathful or Dazzling Staff effect.

Oh? You mean my Wrathful Staff drawing was unnecessary?

Fuck off, game.

You can still only put one effect on the weapon. Do you could have a healer with Dazzling on the weapon and Wrathful on the B slot.
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For comparison:

Silver Dagger+ - Mt 10, debuff on one enemy
Silver Dagger+ (refined) - Mt 15, HP +2, debuff on foe and all enemies within 2 spaces
Alternate options include Spd +2, Def +3, and Res+3, with the only tradeoff being a Mt of 14.
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Yeah but I'd rather of Wrathful on the Weapon slot and Wings of Mercy or Live to Serve on the B than Wrathful on the B + Dazzling Staff since Serra usually blows dudes up anyway.

Maybe they'll buff Wrathful Staff to allow weapon specials or something that'd be awesome.
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looks like i can safely skip the Fates banner. Rhajat is the only one i sort of want and she's almost certainly getting demoted (or TT reward).
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Soleil and Shiro were part of my dream four but Rhajat and Siegbert are some of my least favorites... ugh I'm conflicted, especially on pulling red.
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Oh man they changed it so that when you take 0 damage in battle there's a 'ting' noise instead of the generic 'took damage' noise. That's bugged me since the beginning!
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@Lopen
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Damn man

This boy gonna be the strongest team player. Dagger buffs the best.
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I might finally get around to building Fae with this huge dragon buff. And maybe I should give some attention to Young Tiki. Kagero is the only dagger character I use and this doesn't help her unfortunately.

Hauteclare and Siegmund upgrades look great. I think I'll do those first.

Fates children have good stat spreads, but Rhajat is the only one I want at all. The other ones are pretty ugly and she's sure to be demoted. Yay for distant defense access. That might be the ideal A skill for Fjorm
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you think Shiro looks ugly? i mean he's no Sigurd or Brave Ike, but i certainly don't think he's ugly. i've already seen a bunch of people swooning over him.

and yeah this is definitely making me think about Fae and ATiki. and healers, too. sucks that Lachesis is still kinda bad, unless you SI another 5* healer onto her. maybe i'll just do Serra. Lachesis is almost max HM anyway, while Serra still has a long ways to go.
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Oh god

One of the Rogue Dagger+s gives Def+3 and one gives Res+3.

I'm not sure which one I actually want. Do I further spike his Def stat or do I make him a bit less squishy to mages. Decisions decisions.

Whoa also Recover+ no longer slows down special charge. And with Serra's ridiculous attack is going to be better than Rehabilitate in every situation. Cool!

Not sure if Absorb+ is gonna be the strongest weapon. Thinking Fear is looking like the strongest for now.
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Took me almost 170 orbs to get HNowi, which was certainly more than I was hoping for. Need some advice on how to spend my orbs please. At 52 right now.

Legendary Hero - torn between red and green

Red: I want Celica, would like another Ike with a non-debilitating nature, and Ayra would be nice, of course.
Green: I want Hector for DC fodder, Camilla would be nice, but I do have SCorrin and HNowi, and Deidre would be nice, as well.

I also want Nephenee and the new Tactic skills look pretty appealing for infantry/armor hybrid builds.

Or maybe I should just save!
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Candlelight is the best healer weapon now i think.
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I came down too harsh there. Shiro is fine. The other two look really bad to me. I'm not feeling compelled to pull there.

Lyn and Lucius are the only healers I use. Just realized I only needed to spend SP to get their better weapons. That's kinda nice
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Man the conspiracy theorist in me is thinking the update broke the RNG

Have gotten 4 Florinas and 4 Olivias from summoning so far on the Powerful Specials banner. What the hell man. (Up to 4% again what's with my 5* luck lately)
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Meanwhile, my brother doesn't want to wait the extra couple hours for the new banner and pulls bow Lyn in one pull on the tempest one. Rng is going to be rng.
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I'm loving all the orbs the new story mode is throwing at me. I missed this feeling.
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Fate kids look like junk

Where is Sophie???
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