Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 11: The Holy War Is Nigh!

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Dark Young Link
10/13/17 3:53:18 PM
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WhiteLens
10/13/17 4:13:40 PM
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I legit did not realize that the Dancer banner is a limited one.

So, I'm actually quite glad that I pulled Olivia from it.
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KamikazePotato
10/13/17 4:16:50 PM
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I blew all of my 60 Orbs yesterday on the dancer banner. Kind of regret not holding out for Sigurd but I've never played FE4 so it's not a huge deal to me. Ended up getting Shigure too so that's cool.
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greengravy294
10/13/17 4:17:42 PM
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To be fair I was pulling for Olivia but decided I'd maximize my orb efficency and it popped at 4% =(

I already have Azura and inigo from the banner I should have known better
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greengravy294
10/13/17 4:19:14 PM
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I just want Ephraim how about we get a Brave Ephraim huh
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barreldragon88
10/14/17 2:27:33 AM
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Got +Atk/-Res Azura after close to 80 orbs and a 5* Raven who is +Atk. I already have a 4* that's +Atk, so I'm undecided if I want to keep this one or sac him for Brave Axe+/Threaten Def 3.
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mcflubbin
10/14/17 2:28:33 AM
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Tag.

I was able to get both Olivia and Inigo from the same pull, so I'm pretty damn satisfied. I'll probably never be that lucky again.

Also, what kind of whack ass name is Tailtiu?
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Xuxon
10/14/17 8:32:16 AM
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man after using PA Azura for a bit i'm so disappointed in her voice. i love the original Azura voice, so soft and delicate, but PA Azura sounds like a middle-aged music teacher. i guess that's part of her "disguise" but it still sucks to listen to.
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barreldragon88
10/14/17 11:37:40 AM
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@Dark_Young_Link, do you mind switching your lead to a colorless non-healer? I need two more colorless victories for the flag quest.
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Dark Young Link
10/14/17 1:20:33 PM
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barreldragon88 posted...
@Dark_Young_Link, do you mind switching your lead to a colorless non-healer? I need two more colorless victories for the flag quest.


If you still need it, I switched to Bow Lyn
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barreldragon88
10/14/17 1:39:11 PM
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Yea, I've been deleting friends to so I get a colorless bud more often. Is it random how the system determines which friend helps you out?
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Lopen
10/14/17 1:40:39 PM
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I'll have you know my Serra can do good damage in spite of not having bothered to put Wrathful Staff on her yet. "Non healer" malarkey
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Yankees
10/14/17 1:45:29 PM
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Wait, you have Genny, and you haven't sacrificed her yet? Serra deserves the best
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Lopen
10/14/17 1:48:11 PM
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I wanted to get my 3000 feathers before skill inheriting her since she's a 5* base-- that one is pretty close, she's at 2800 HM right now so yeah "soon." Serra's been pretty capable of killing stuff without it though so I haven't really felt rushed.
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Yankees
10/14/17 1:53:11 PM
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Your patience is impressive.
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Lopen
10/14/17 1:55:24 PM
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Listen man Serra demands 200000 feathers I gotta get them anywhere I can.

Also helps that autobattling Tempest Trials on Hard gives a ton of HM. Would've had 3000 a long time ago if I hadn't taken a break shortly after getting Genny.
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Yankees
10/14/17 1:57:51 PM
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I hear you. I've been grinding HM on my less used characters lately to eventually +10 a thing. Up to 137k now!
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Dark Young Link
10/14/17 5:08:07 PM
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Dang. Looks like Ninian might not get anymore bonuses. At least I hit most of them, but I only have so many feathers right now.
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Xuxon
10/14/17 6:09:17 PM
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shoot, i hope the spreadsheet is right about Corrin still getting 3 more bonuses. i have 1200 flags left.
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Grimmer
10/14/17 6:23:12 PM
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1200 flags here too. I might have been too greedy
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barreldragon88
10/14/17 6:46:05 PM
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Grimmer posted...
1200 flags here too. I might have been too greedy

This, except even worse. God, I keep fucking up at this.
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Xuxon
10/14/17 7:34:22 PM
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i was going to start spending them at 5pm to be safe. but then that wasn't a bonus hour and it perfectly set up 3 non-bonus hours in a row. <_<
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Yankees
10/14/17 9:13:08 PM
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Corrin is on track to end with two straight bonuses and pull off the win now.
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Dark Young Link
10/14/17 9:14:53 PM
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Yankees posted...
Corrin is on track to end with two straight bonuses and pull off the win now.


What? Last I checked she was

*refreshes*

Fucking hell.
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Xuxon
10/14/17 9:49:02 PM
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Ninian's bonus is going to be stronger than the spreadsheet predicts. it underestimates like crazy sometimes.
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Xuxon
10/14/17 9:53:22 PM
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oh wait i just noticed it's predicting more of a bonus for Ninian now than earlier this hour but still has Corrin winning. i guess it might actually happen.
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Yankees
10/14/17 10:07:27 PM
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The final score should be close. Fortunately, I will be able to burn all my flags on bonus hours
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KamikazePotato
10/14/17 10:08:48 PM
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Yeah, I played the flag game pretty much prefectly in this round. I only used them on bonus hours. Also have 800 more flags to spare and two more Corrin bonus hours to utilize (which are the biggest multipliers possible).
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Dark Young Link
10/14/17 10:09:40 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Also have 800 more flags to spare and two more Corrin bonus hours to utilize


What if I told you that using flags reduces your 5* rate? :P
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Terastodon
10/14/17 10:26:21 PM
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I think this Ninian hour should pull it out, they should have more flag users than Team Corrin.
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Lopen
10/15/17 12:04:50 AM
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Yeahh Ninian beat that Mario Kart nonsense.

4546 total rank, 8546 rank in army

I should've got top 5000 in army but but I partially slept through one of the later boosts-- threw 100 unboosted flags at the last hour. So my gained 500 feathers only just barely offset that. Oh well!
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Dark Young Link
10/15/17 12:05:02 AM
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And the winner is.... Ninian baby!
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Xuxon
10/15/17 12:07:58 AM
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oh dammit i thought Corrin had that in the bag. i think this is the first gauntlet where i lost every round.
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Dark Young Link
10/15/17 12:08:19 AM
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Oh lol, well if Lopen is going to say it right away :P

(Yeah there's no need to spoiler it, I just like the dramatics)

Final Score: 870,200
Final Army Rank: 91,03
Final Total Score: 2,832,139
Final Total Rank: 6,774

As for feathers...

Team Young Tiki: 2500
Team Adult Tiki: 2500
Team Ninian: 3200 (2700 + 500)
Cumlative: 2200

Which gives me a grand total of 10400 feathers. Best gauntlet yet for me!
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Lopen
10/15/17 12:08:33 AM
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On the flip side this is the first gauntlet where I won more than one match I'm pretty sure.
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KamikazePotato
10/15/17 12:09:32 AM
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Female Corrin failed me in the end, but her failure let me rack up a lot of feathers. Got 3000 from Total Rank and 3100 from Army Rank. Think that more than offsets the 500 from winning!
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KamikazePotato
10/15/17 12:10:59 AM
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Real talk though the true shining moment of the Gauntlet was Nowi losing in Round 1
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Xuxon
10/15/17 12:13:23 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Female Corrin failed me in the end, but her failure let me rack up a lot of feathers. Got 3000 from Total Rank and 3100 from Army Rank. Think that more than offsets the 500 from winning!

same here, got 3000+3100 this round. i wasn't thinking much about army rank, but yeah, i probably would have been a rank lower in that as well. i KNOW i would have been a rank lower in overall rank because i wasn't top 1000 going into the last hour.
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Lopen
10/15/17 12:14:15 AM
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Damn straight. Tiki could not win but at least she gave us that.

And yeah this was by far my best gauntlet too-- 90% of the hours being boost hours helped a lot in that regard I'm sure.

Think this is the best format they've done yet, though I would like if you could like, throw 200 flags at an hour where you're stronger or neutral to make it a boost hour for you as though you were weaker. I think that'd make it a bit more interesting and make overwhelming numbers still be able to crush a bit easier. I dunno, that may not be the exact implementation, but it does kinda suck that there's no counterplay to the other team getting a boost in the final hour aside from being way the hell ahead.

Also maybe some incentive at all to blow flags on earlier hours would be nice.
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Dark Young Link
10/15/17 12:14:25 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Real talk though the true shining moment of the Gauntlet was Nowi losing in Round 1


Honestly Nowi was the prelude. The prelude that was "3DS won't save you THIS gauntlet!"
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Yankees
10/15/17 12:15:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is the first gauntlet I have lost every match.

Final Score: 1,287,216
Final Army Rank: 5,087
Final Total Score: 3,514,094
Final Total Rank: 110

Feathers :
Team Sophia: 2500
Team M Corrin: 2100
Team F Corrin: 2700
Cumlative: 3000
Total 10,300

Narrowly missing the rank threshold in this round and previous round cost me 800 feathers.
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Xuxon
10/15/17 12:22:14 AM
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back up to 100k feathers after dipping below for a few hours. i promoted Cecilia today to use as my bonus unit in arena next week (unless i get crazy lucky on the Genealogy banner), then i'll feed her to Inigo.
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barreldragon88
10/15/17 2:32:52 AM
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I'm still surprised Nowi and YTiki lost so early. Thought the loli factor would give them the edge, and I was prepared for one of them to win the whole thing. Even though I couldn't be on my waifu's team, I'm glad she won.

This gauntlet was the perfect opportunity for me to rack up a ton of feathers and I blew it...
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Xuxon
10/15/17 7:39:56 AM
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i mean, they only lost round 1 due to the bonus mechanic. literally anyone can lose to anyone else because if it. and while i didn't expect much from YTiki, i thought either Nowi or FCorrin would win, with an outside shot at ATiki or Ninian, so Ninian just being on a whole different level above everyone else was a huge surprise.
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Team Rocket Elite
10/15/17 7:56:17 AM
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I'm still not really sure why Ninian was so strong. Corrin was in the top 10 for votes during CYL while Ninian was 100th. Corrin just feels like she should be more popular as well. After seeing what Lyn and Ninian can do, I'm definitely interested in seeing what other FE7 characters like Nino or a non-LFF'd Hector can do.
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Xuxon
10/15/17 8:06:25 AM
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https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/918738707401674752

Ninian is now the 11th-most summoner-supported unit, despite being one of the least useful characters to have that on. Camilla and Azura ended up high on that list, too (but still below Ninian!), indicating it isn't purely about gameplay. so Ninian has gotten a huge boost in popularity for whatever reason. Nino and Hector ended up above Ninian, though both could be more for gameplay reasons, Hector in particular.
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metroid composite
10/15/17 10:13:08 AM
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I still have not pulled a single banner unit on the dancer banner despite dropping all orbs on it since it came out.

> https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/918738707401674752

Ninian is now the 11th-most summoner-supported unit, despite being one of the least useful characters to have that on. Camilla and Azura ended up high on that list, too (but still below Ninian!), indicating it isn't purely about gameplay.


Ninian is not surprising to me; she's been on 6 banners, and the big reason you run her over other dancers is that it's easy to get her Distant Counter (Lightning Breath+ is inheritable and has distant counter built-in). But distant counter builds need a big pile of stats, and being a dancer she doesn't have a big pile of stats. Summoner support gives her a big pile of stats. She's probably the only dancer for whom I'd consider summoner support; although any of them do fine with it if you give them distant counter.

Azura is a little weirder, but makes sense if you give her distant counter. (And we know from arena frequency charts that a lot more people have/run Azura than Ninian; most of them don't have spare distant counter inheritance, but a few do).

The surprising ones to me are Takumi (I thought he disappeared from the meta completely?? Although again I can gameplay justify it--he has lower stats, which is why close counter builds went away, but jack up his stats and he's probably competitive with distant counter builds).

Also Brave Lucina being #2 is weird to me (she's fine and all, I'd expect to see her in the top 20 but...#2?)

Camilla's in a weird spot, where the subreddit thinks she's terrible cause her default skills don't fit her stats at all, but she's the green axe with by far the highest RES so if you get up into whale territory, people give her Emerald Axe and Distant Counter as a reinhardt counter. Often with green tomebreaker too so that she can kill green mages. Still doesn't explain the amount of people summoner supporting her, though--whales are a small percentage of the population.

And sure, obviously there is some level of popularity contest going on here. Like...I would take Ryoma over Ike every day of the week as a sword distant counter, yet Ike is 3rd and Ryoma is 10th, weird. I would expect both to be up there, though along with every other common distant counter unit like Hector, Nowi--distant counter builds need all 4 stats.

All the mages make sense to me. Reinhardt only needs attack, so doesn't benefit that much from summoner support, which is why he's not like #1 range up there with Bow Lyn. Nino and Tharja have built in blade tomes and good stats. M.Robin with triangle adept...yeah, I run him on my main team of 3, and I'd like a couple extra stats in...every category. (I supported Nino, but understand the pick). Julia baits Reinhardt, a task that calls for speed cause she might not double him if he has hone cavalry on, attack because she might not OHKO him, res obviously. Yeah, sensible support.

Vanilla Lyn is the really puzzling one, though. She...hits people with swords? That one feels like a favourites pick not a gameplay pick. (To some degree vanilla Lucina is puzzling too, but Lucina was considered top or near top tier early in the game, so I can imagine there are people who merged her a lot; maybe inherited Distant Counter to her, in which case, sure, if you already have tons of work into one character, summoner support makes sense).
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barreldragon88
10/15/17 12:08:00 PM
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People finally came around to their senses and realized what a great character Ninian is :D

metroid composite posted...
Ninian is not surprising to me; she's been on 6 banners, and the big reason you run her over other dancers is that it's easy to get her Distant Counter (Lightning Breath+ is inheritable and has distant counter built-in). But distant counter builds need a big pile of stats, and being a dancer she doesn't have a big pile of stats. Summoner support gives her a big pile of stats. She's probably the only dancer for whom I'd consider summoner support; although any of them do fine with it if you give them distant counter.

Yup, I SS'd her to give her more bulk and Spd and I don't regret my decision one bit. She can be put in danger zone in TT and tank some hits and fight back because the other units on her team usually aren't made to take damage.
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Terastodon
10/15/17 12:34:13 PM
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Finished every quest in my log for the first time ever now I have (bad) horse and flier emblem teams.
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Lopen
10/15/17 12:37:27 PM
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My horse emblem team is

5* Cain
5* Priscilla with Hone Cavalry
5* Bow Lyn
4* Ursula

My only buff is Priscilla, and it's still one of my stronger Arena Assault teams when I pull it out. I'm not sure whether I hate the existence of cavalry buffs or Bow Lyn more conceptually.
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