Poll of the Day > So holywood is remaking lord of the flies but with an all female cast! Yay!!!

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/a-new-lord-of-the-flies-movie-is-coming-but-with-a/1100-6453018/

Who the fuck is this for? People who have no idea what the source material is?

Seriously. How can anyone defend these creatively bankrupt maggots anymore?
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

Who the fuck is this for?

Kimbos_Egg posted...

People who have no idea what the source material is

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"lady of the clams"
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Can't wait for next Summer's "12 Angry Ladies"
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an all female reboot of magic mike or brokeback mountain would be better

whyyyyyyyy


this could have been a perfectly good chance for a good modern LotF movie

hmm.
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jesus fucking christ

the media is so out of touch
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A remake of 300 except all the Spartans are women and the men stay home and wait for them and the Oracle is a dude but the physically deformed dude is still a dude and the bad guys are still dudes but this time the women spartans win instead.
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VioletMassacre posted...

I don't really see the problem with this, but they should just use both girls and boys which would be more realistic.

Would certainly add more drama given any potential emotional ties and hormones.
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Well, better than the female reboot of Ghostbusters.
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Let's not forget they have an all-female boot of Ocean's Eleven coming up

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5164214/
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Zeus posted...

Well, better than the female reboot of Ghostbusters.

no.... it wont be
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If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life
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Clench281 posted...

If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

if other people being upset upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life
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Sounds more like a reimagining than a remake

Clench281 posted...

If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

I think some of us are more upset movies are being retold/remade instead of us getting new material to enjoy. However, movies that tie-in with older movies though I am fine with like the upcoming Blade Runner movie.
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LaggnFragnLarry posted...

an all female reboot of magic mike or brokeback mountain would be better

Lmfao
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Clench281 posted...

If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

Not so much upset as disappointed

It'll be fine guys. Ghostbusters was fine, right?
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Are they going to do the pig scene?

Completely ignoring the gender swap remaking this movie doesn't really make sense anyway. Modern technology doesn't add anything to the story because they will lose it all. And the idea that a group of people would descend to savagery in a primitive state is not a novel idea, we already see that in shows like The Walking Dead.
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DrPrimemaster posted...

Are they going to do the pig scene?

Completely ignoring the gender swap remaking this movie doesn't really make sense anyway. Modern technology doesn't add anything to the story because they will lose it all. And the idea that a group of people would descend to savagery in a primitive state is not a novel idea, we already see that in shows like The Walking Dead.

The premise is that violence and savagery is so ingrained in us, that even beings as pure as children will revert into monsters when the need to survive arises.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

Who the fuck is this for? People who have no idea what the source material is?

So I have zero interest in this movie, but I am very familiar with the source material and I fail to see how swapping for an all female cast in any way detracts from the source material. It's not like the Lord of the Flies has any major plot points that lean on the gender of the participants; the whole underlying message is about the tragic and innate savagery of humanity and our willingness to revert to animalism when the chips are down. That can be accomplished just as easily with a cast of girls as a cast of boys.

I have no idea why people are clutching their pearls over this. If anything, the use of girls might enhance the story due to girls' traditional association with purity, passiveness, and pacifism. Nothing guarantees this won't be a shitty movie, but screaming that everything is ruined just because none of the characters have dongs is more than a little sensationalist.

VioletMassacre posted...

I don't really see the problem with this, but they should just use both girls and boys which would be more realistic.

Already been done.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0474539/

Also, how is it more realistic? The original story was that it was all boys because it was a flight evacuating a boys school; just change the school to a girl's school to make the cast all girls, or a co-ed school if you want mixed gender. I fail to see how any of those are unrealistic.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Zeus posted...

Well, better than the female reboot of Ghostbusters.

no.... it wont be

The bar is so low that even Uwe Boll could jump it.
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Remakes happen all the time.There's no real reason all all-girl remake of Lord of the Flies is necessarily worse than an all-boy remake.
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darkknight109 posted...

So I have zero interest in this movie, but I am very familiar with the source material and I fail to see how swapping for an all female cast in any way detracts from the source material. It's not like the Lord of the Flies has any major plot points that lean on the gender of the participants; the whole underlying message is about the tragic and innate savagery of humanity and our willingness to revert to animalism when the chips are down. That can be accomplished just as easily with a cast of girls as a cast of boys.

I have no idea why people are clutching their pearls over this. If anything, the use of girls might enhance the story due to girls' traditional association with purity, passiveness, and pacifism. Nothing guarantees this won't be a shitty movie, but screaming that everything is ruined just because none of the characters have dongs is more than a little sensationalist.

Plus doing an all-female cast means they don't have to compete with the older, superior versions of the film and the gender swap gimmick makes it easier to attract eyeballs while deflecting legitimate criticism ("The film isn't bad! They just hate women!")
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Zeus posted...

Plus doing an all-female cast means they don't have to compete with the older, superior versions of the film

Little early to be calling the older versions superior when the announcement of the new film isn't even 24 hours old, don't you think?
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

Plus doing an all-female cast means they don't have to compete with the older, superior versions of the film

Little early to be calling the older versions superior when the announcement of the new film isn't even 24 hours old, don't you think?

We gotta protect the status quo

Troll_Police_ posted...

Clench281 posted...

If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

if other people being upset upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

This line of reasoning makes no sense, because at its root, it means you cannot ever offer any opinion or advice about any situation

but you're just trying to get a rise out of ppl, so
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I would care if I believed for a second it would draw attention. As-is it's like advertising 'The Wizard of Oz! Now with a Lesbian Dorothy, Tin Woman, Cowardly Lion, and Hug-crow! Fighting against the evil Trump of the West!'

The question of if an all-female cast would be fine or not is irrelevant. IMO this screams of 'I don't care one bit about the book but want to virtue signal how PC I am!'
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darkknight109 posted...

So I have zero interest in this movie, but I am very familiar with the source material and I fail to see how swapping for an all female cast in any way detracts from the source material. It's not like the Lord of the Flies has any major plot points that lean on the gender of the participants; the whole underlying message is about the tragic and innate savagery of humanity and our willingness to revert to animalism when the chips are down. That can be accomplished just as easily with a cast of girls as a cast of boys.

I have no idea why people are clutching their pearls over this. If anything, the use of girls might enhance the story due to girls' traditional association with purity, passiveness, and pacifism. Nothing guarantees this won't be a shitty movie, but screaming that everything is ruined just because none of the characters have dongs is more than a little sensationalist.

I think the all boy cast was an intentional choice to highlight the ingrained aggression of men in particular though. When you're talking about historical/biological violence and aggression in humans, it's not at all controversial to attribute it primarily to the male half. I haven't read the book in ages but I seem to remember the pig scene in particular being almost rapey.

If the film is being made with a deliberate counter point ("Women are just as bad as men in this respect") then it might be interesting. But I don't think that was the intention of the original novel at all and if it's just a copy paste job it might feel less interesting.

I'm not super passionate about the story though so it's not a big deal either way. If the movie is bad it's hardly a problem for the Lord of the Flies cinematic universe.

Blightzkrieg posted...

darkknight109 posted...

So I have zero interest in this movie, but I am very familiar with the source material and I fail to see how swapping for an all female cast in any way detracts from the source material. It's not like the Lord of the Flies has any major plot points that lean on the gender of the participants; the whole underlying message is about the tragic and innate savagery of humanity and our willingness to revert to animalism when the chips are down. That can be accomplished just as easily with a cast of girls as a cast of boys.

I have no idea why people are clutching their pearls over this. If anything, the use of girls might enhance the story due to girls' traditional association with purity, passiveness, and pacifism. Nothing guarantees this won't be a shitty movie, but screaming that everything is ruined just because none of the characters have dongs is more than a little sensationalist.

I think the all boy cast was an intentional choice to highlight the ingrained aggression of men in particular though. When you're talking about historical/biological violence and aggression in humans, it's not at all controversial to attribute it primarily to the male half. I haven't read the book in ages but I seem to remember the pig scene in particular being almost rapey.

If the film is being made with a deliberate counter point ("Women are just as bad as men in this respect") then it might be interesting. But I don't think that was the intention of the original novel at all and if it's just a copy paste job it might feel less interesting.

I'm not super passionate about the story though so it's not a big deal either way. If the movie is bad it's hardly a problem for the Lord of the Flies cinematic universe.

Do remember, they could go the complete opposite direction and have the girls build a functioning and socialistic (because, let's face it, it's propaganda) society in which the pig is properly cared for and petticured as well.
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I think that the strangest part is that boys make more sense since males are more predisposed to violence

Unbridled9 posted...

Do remember, they could go the complete opposite direction and have the girls build a functioning and socialistic (because, let's face it, it's propaganda) society in which the pig is properly cared for and petticured as well.

What a fucking bait and switch that would be lol.

Oh man that would almost be worth it.

darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

Plus doing an all-female cast means they don't have to compete with the older, superior versions of the film

Little early to be calling the older versions superior when the announcement of the new film isn't even 24 hours old, don't you think?

Bro it's gonna be trash. We all know it.

And as for your other post, why change their genders in the first place at all if it's not important and not a pandering gimmick to get more people to talk about another unwanted remake?
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Blightzkrieg posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

Do remember, they could go the complete opposite direction and have the girls build a functioning and socialistic (because, let's face it, it's propaganda) society in which the pig is properly cared for and petticured as well.

What a fucking bait and switch that would be lol.

Oh man that would almost be worth it.

That would be funny.
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Clench281 posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

Clench281 posted...

If this upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

if other people being upset upsets you, you should probably reevaluate your life

This line of reasoning makes no sense, because at its root, it means you cannot ever offer any opinion or advice about any situation

but you're just trying to get a rise out of ppl, so

and that makes it different from your post how?

did upset you?
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I don't see who they are appealing to here:

Fans of the source material aren't going to like it because they are changing genders of the characters for no reason (Ghostbusters anyone?)

Feminists aren't going to like it because it is going to show women be just as savage and bloodthirsty as men, which completely goes against the modern feminist message.

People who go into it with a blank slate aren't going to like it because they will say "Oh, it's another survival movie, but with children" and ignore it.
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LaggnFragnLarry posted...

brokeback mountain

I'm in

Magic Mike remake with an all female cast would be great but we can't have that

Joking aside, i don't get why they keep doing this... original fans will crap all over it because it craps on everything they liked.
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I genuinely don't see a problem with this in any way shape or form.
Why does that matter? Shouldn't the fact that the movie is good/bad be the deciding factor?

shadowsword87 posted...

I genuinely don't see a problem with this in any way shape or form.
Why does that matter? Shouldn't the fact that the movie is good/bad be the deciding factor?

It should

But just like the Dragonball movie sucked because they changed chracters and loosely based it around the original concepts this one will have a hill to climb because they are already changin characters people loved or liked
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ninjabay posted...

But just like the Dragonball movie sucked because they changed chracters and loosely based it around the original concepts this one will have a hill to climb because they are already changin characters people loved or liked

Oh, I didn't know the kid's genders were integral to the story, we must have read different books, because it's about humanity and what we do when we're all alone.
Now, if they made Piggy super skinny for reasons, yeah that would be a bad change, because that was half of his personality was based on the fact that he was fat.

shadowsword87 posted...

ninjabay posted...

But just like the Dragonball movie sucked because they changed chracters and loosely based it around the original concepts this one will have a hill to climb because they are already changin characters people loved or liked

Oh, I didn't know the kid's genders were integral to the story, we must have read different books, because it's about humanity and what we do when we're all alone.
Now, if they made Piggy super skinny for reasons, yeah that would be a bad change, because that was half of his personality was based on the fact that he was fat.

I'm just saying I get why people can get angry at changing character traits just because... I'm not even a fan of the original so i don't really care. I even said the movie should be judged based on its quality and not its cast
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shadowsword87 posted...

I genuinely don't see a problem with this in any way shape or form.
Why does that matter? Shouldn't the fact that the movie is good/bad be the deciding factor?

Or they could respect the integrity of the source material and leave it as male?

Besides, as was said earlier, males in general are more territorial and predisposed to violence. Males are usually bullies in school and are quicker to become confrontational. The movie loses something without that aspect.
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DrProfessor posted...

Or they could respect the integrity of the source material and leave it as male?

So, are you suggesting that everything needs to follow the source material as closely as possible, because of how perfect it always is?

DrProfessor posted...

Besides, as was said earlier, males in general are more territorial and predisposed to violence. Males are usually bullies in school and are quicker to become confrontational. The movie loses something without that aspect.

Yeah, that would be an interesting character dynamic, wouldn't it?

shadowsword87 posted...

DrProfessor posted...

Or they could respect the integrity of the source material and leave it as male?

So, are you suggesting that everything needs to follow the source material as closely as possible, because of how perfect it always is?

DrProfessor posted...

Besides, as was said earlier, males in general are more territorial and predisposed to violence. Males are usually bullies in school and are quicker to become confrontational. The movie loses something without that aspect.

Yeah, that would be an interesting character dynamic, wouldn't it?

What are you trying to say

seems like a pointless post

So, will they all get mad when the fat one is still named "Piggy"?

OhhhJa posted...

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

brokeback mountain

I'm in

lesbian cowgirls would be hot