Current Events > Do you support the freedom of speech of neo-nazis?

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This question relates ONLY to the freedom to speak/think and not any actions.
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My brain says yes but my heart says no. :v
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Yes just like I support the free speech of the equally awful communists and others with repugnant ideologies.
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i will say yes,

but I admit i dislike when they start saying things like "hitler did nothing wrong" or "holocaust is a lie".
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Yes just like I support the freedom of speech of everyone else. Speech. Not actions.
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Yes, even hate groups like Neo Nazis and BLM should have freedom of speech.
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They should have freedom of speech to say what they want.
And normal people with brains should have freedom of speech to insult them and their views.
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Yes, that's the whole point of free speech. I support free speech for them as well as communists or any ideology
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The issue today is actions, though. Anyway, I support freedom of speech. I don't support respecting all speech. If someone is allowed to hold a Nazi rally, then others are free to counterprotest and negatively judge people who espouse Nazi rhetoric.
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let them talk freely.
but have them take consequences for everything they said.
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They have the right to say what they want. Once it turns violent, it's inexcusable.
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Yes. Im biracial I just want people to say what they think so I know who to stay away from.
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They should be free from government censorship. Private citizens and organizations, on the other hand...name and shame.
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Free speech for all, not just for your friends.
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Admittingly yes, however it will not leave them immune to criticism or consequences if it becomes an act of violence.
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I don't give a shit about the concerns of Neo-Nazis.

It's not a no, it's that I feel like this question doesn't need to be asked. I don't SUPPORT Neo-Nazis like you do, joe.
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Yes. Freedom of speech for all.
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Freedom of speech for them to be able to air their ideology, yes. But freedom of speech is not a licence to incite violence - that has consequences.

The Admiral posted...

They have the right to say what they want. Once it turns violent, it's inexcusable.

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"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Biographer's summary of Voltaire's stance on free speech
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Speech, sure. Freedom from any consequences stemming from that (including having their identity disclosed if they air those views in public, like at a rally)? No.

One thing I'll take issue with though: the word "nurtured" in the second option. Speech is one thing, but nurturing goes beyond that. To me, it sort of implies that you can't challenge those views, try to prevent them from spreading (not by physically preventing speech, but by counter-protesting, disclosing their identity, even firing them if they tarnish a company's reputation for example, etc.).

Of course. Everyone has the freedom to think and say what they want, as long as it's within the bounds of the law. I might not like what they say, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to say it.
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Of course I believe they have the right for free speech, but certain actions could very well be intimidation which I'm not okay with.
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Spooking posted...

Yes, I don't want our country to be like Germany.

You don't want America to be an actual GOOD country like Germany is right now?
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Bass_X0 posted...

Spooking posted...

Yes, I don't want our country to be like Germany.

You don't want America to be an actual GOOD country like Germany is right now?

You mean German-stan? Germany no longer exists bro.
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how can germany be real if our maps aren't real
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Sure, just let them speak their mind, so everyone knows who to avoid.
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AmonAmarth posted...

i will say yes,

but I admit i dislike when they start saying things like "hitler did nothing wrong" or "holocaust is a lie".

It's not the speech itself you support, or even have to tolerate, but you can still appreciate that opposing and oftentimes archaic viewpoints exist and not ruin lives because of it.

They have the right to say something without the government chopping their dicks off for it, but frankly I think the world would be a better place if they didn't exist and I hope their rhetoric makes them unsafe. Fuck giving them platforms, their whole M/O is hurting people because they feel superior and entitled. They have the freedom to spout their bullshit without being silenced by the state, they have freedom of speech - and I'm just as free to say I want their speech to fuck itself in the butt and eat a turd, because fuck them. They are scum, and I hope their disgusting rhetoric is buried in the ground in the same way a steel-capped boot might become buried in their anus.

They have inalienable human rights, and I'm not down for taking that away from them as long as they don't aim to do the same to anyone else. You know, something the Nazis actually fucking did. But that doesn't mean I support anything they do. I hope their message dies, I hope they shrink and become scared, and I hope they shut the fuck up, because they are scum who don't deserve to have a voice. They have human rights, but fuck them all as people and fuck their message too.
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Yeah.

I think the question is when does it turn from just speaking, to inciting hatred/harm though.
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yes but then they should get battered

myzz7 posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

Spooking posted...

Yes, I don't want our country to be like Germany.

You don't want America to be an actual GOOD country like Germany is right now?

You mean German-stan? Germany no longer exists bro.

well if some american conservative nutjob says so i guess i don't live in germany anymore
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Have any of them been identified and their work place notified about their employee's involvement?
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I think they should be able to say what they like (barring threats and calls to violence, that is), and the government not arrest or punish them.

However that does not mean that private citizens have to stand for or tolerate their shit.
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The23rdMagus posted...

They should be free from government censorship. Private citizens and organizations, on the other hand...name and shame.

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The only right a Nazi has is to remain silent.
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The Admiral posted...

They have the right to say what they want. Once it turns violent, it's inexcusable.

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I think there comes a point where the people can say such hateful and dangerous things they need to be told it isn't acceptable.

Nomadic View posted...

The Admiral posted...

They have the right to say what they want. Once it turns violent, it's inexcusable.

But what if what they are saying is trying to incite violence? It's only bad if they succeed?

People can say what they want.

And people can call out their bullshit all they want.
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Yes, and all consequences of it. Only the government isn't allowed to penalize you.
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No. Public displays of Nazi Propaganda should be punished by a fine from the government.
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Ricemills posted...

let them talk freely.
but have them take consequences for everything they said.

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They should be able to say what they want, but it should end there obviously. The second things swing into intimidation and threats, that's when we need a crack down.
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Say what you want in public, just don't turn around and cry victim when your job decides they don't want you anymore because they saw you on the news spewing hate speech or rioting and looting, People shit on OWS,Femisist, BLM and Anifa shit when they make headlines doing dumb shit, why should the nazis get a pass?
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Unfortunately Yes I do. Sending people to jail for saying hateful things is a dangerous exercise.
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Yes.
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groups should be treated the way their actions and rhetoric treat others. So the neo-nazis should be treated like subhuman garbage
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Yes
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