Poll of the Day > Why does Windows 10 have both the Control Panel and the "Settings" app

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DorkLink 08/07/17 12:32:59 PM #1:	It's confusing as fuck. As far as I can tell, they both have similar functions and some overlap but there are some that seem to have been removed from the Control Panel, like the Display/Personalize options. There are also some that probably aren't in the Settings app like Device Manager, but I don't know it well enough to say for sure. I hate it. It seems like the Settings app is meant for touchscreen devices and the Control Panel meant for traditional users. That would be great if they both had the same features and you could choose to disable one or the other, but neither of those are true AFAIK. I just want to use the damn Control Panel to change all my settings because I generally know where everything is from many years of use, but MS has made this very hard. <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884340522] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>It's confusing as fuck. As far as I can tell, they both have similar functions and some overlap but there are some that seem to have been removed from the Control Panel, like the Display/Personalize options. There are also some that probably aren't in the Settings app like Device Manager, but I don't know it well enough to say for sure. I hate it. It seems like the Settings app is meant for touchscreen devices and the Control Panel meant for traditional users. That would be great if they both had the same features and you could choose to disable one or the other, but neither of those are true AFAIK. I just want to use the damn Control Panel to change all my settings because I generally know where everything is from many years of use, but MS has made this very hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/07/17 12:34:57 PM #2:	It's meant to be confusing, Windows doesn't want people adjusting the OS but can't afford the backlash of outright removing control. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:884340610] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>It's meant to be confusing, Windows doesn't want people adjusting the OS but can't afford the backlash of outright removing control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/07/17 12:40:03 PM #3:	The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:884340848] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 1:10:28 PM #4:	Dikitain posted... The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things. It's almost like they knew that the Settings app sucks. Actually, it's probably okay, but I'd still rather use the control panel. They probably would have been better off removing the Control Panel from the start rather than leaving us with a mostly useful but slightly gimped version. I just hate how everything in the settings app looks the same. There's no color to the icons. It looks more modern and minimalist, but the unique designs of each icon in the Control Panel helped me remember them. Edit: Everything looking the same extends to the fairly uniform layouts and window size that the Settings app uses as well. The Control Panel had all kinds of different window layouts and other windows and programs popping up depending on what you selected. You could argue that's objectively "bad" design, but it made it easy to familiarize yourself with all the functions and if you opened something up you could tell if you had the right thing just by the window layout. The Settings app makes you actually read through all the particular settings you just opened in order to tell if you're in the right place. <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884342395] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things.</quote> It's almost like they knew that the Settings app sucks. Actually, it's probably okay, but I'd still rather use the control panel. They probably would have been better off removing the Control Panel from the start rather than leaving us with a mostly useful but slightly gimped version. I just hate how everything in the settings app looks the same. There's no color to the icons. It looks more modern and minimalist, but the unique designs of each icon in the Control Panel helped me remember them. Edit: Everything looking the same extends to the fairly uniform layouts and window size that the Settings app uses as well. The Control Panel had all kinds of different window layouts and other windows and programs popping up depending on what you selected. You could argue that's objectively "bad" design, but it made it easy to familiarize yourself with all the functions and if you opened something up you could tell if you had the right thing just by the window layout. The Settings app makes you actually read through all the particular settings you just opened in order to tell if you're in the right place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/07/17 1:28:43 PM #5:	DorkLink posted... Dikitain posted... The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things. It's almost like they knew that the Settings app sucks. Actually, it's probably okay, but I'd still rather use the control panel. They probably would have been better off removing the Control Panel from the start rather than leaving us with a mostly useful but slightly gimped version. I just hate how everything in the settings app looks the same. There's no color to the icons. It looks more modern and minimalist, but the unique designs of each icon in the Control Panel helped me remember them. Edit: Everything looking the same extends to the fairly uniform layouts and window size that the Settings app uses as well. The Control Panel had all kinds of different window layouts and other windows and programs popping up depending on what you selected. You could argue that's objectively "bad" design, but it made it easy to familiarize yourself with all the functions and if you opened something up you could tell if you had the right thing just by the window layout. The Settings app makes you actually read through all the particular settings you just opened in order to tell if you're in the right place. The settings app represents about 90% of what the common user is going to mess with. Anything not in the settings app most people aren't going to mess with unless they are an advanced user (who would prefer the control panel anyways). It is minimalist and modern because that is what most users know nowadays. Show a person who is used to doing everything in iOS or Android the control panel and they are going to get overwhelmed by how complected it is. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:884343272] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>The settings app is meant to replace control panel, but they keep control panel around so that people don't complain about them changing things. And yet people still complain about them changing things.</quote> It's almost like they knew that the Settings app sucks. Actually, it's probably okay, but I'd still rather use the control panel. They probably would have been better off removing the Control Panel from the start rather than leaving us with a mostly useful but slightly gimped version. I just hate how everything in the settings app looks the same. There's no color to the icons. It looks more modern and minimalist, but the unique designs of each icon in the Control Panel helped me remember them. Edit: Everything looking the same extends to the fairly uniform layouts and window size that the Settings app uses as well. The Control Panel had all kinds of different window layouts and other windows and programs popping up depending on what you selected. You could argue that's objectively "bad" design, but it made it easy to familiarize yourself with all the functions and if you opened something up you could tell if you had the right thing just by the window layout. The Settings app makes you actually read through all the particular settings you just opened in order to tell if you're in the right place.</quote> The settings app represents about 90% of what the common user is going to mess with. Anything not in the settings app most people aren't going to mess with unless they are an advanced user (who would prefer the control panel anyways). It is minimalist and modern because that is what most users know nowadays. Show a person who is used to doing everything in iOS or Android the control panel and they are going to get overwhelmed by how complected it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 1:44:20 PM #6:	complected <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884343994] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>complected</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 2:48:00 PM #7:	they removed the control panel, tf old ass version of windows 10 are you on --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884347341] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>they removed the control panel, tf old ass version of windows 10 are you on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 08/07/17 3:15:20 PM #8:	helly posted... they removed the control panel, tf old ass version of windows 10 are you on Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box. DorkLink posted... complected :) --- FC: 2724-1435-8055 - IGN: PSI_BLUE Spelling errors make me laugh. <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:884348862] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>they removed the control panel, tf old ass version of windows 10 are you on</quote> Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box. <cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>complected</quote> :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 5:02:17 PM #9:	the new windows 10 "apps" that I've used are god-awful. settings is one of them, but there's also the mail program. atrociously bad software. I used to love Microsoft, but these days my opinion of them just keeps diminishing, whereas my opinion of Google just keeps growing. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884354954] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>the new windows 10 "apps" that I've used are god-awful. settings is one of them, but there's also the mail program. atrociously bad software. I used to love Microsoft, but these days my opinion of them just keeps diminishing, whereas my opinion of Google just keeps growing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/07/17 5:08:29 PM #10:	In the "app" you have to go under advanced settings to change the resolution. Nobody at Microsoft knows what they're doing atm. The people who were great enough to make the company what it is are gone and have been replaced by these guys. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:884355319] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>In the "app" you have to go under advanced settings to change the resolution. Nobody at Microsoft knows what they're doing atm. The people who were great enough to make the company what it is are gone and have been replaced by these guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 5:20:12 PM #11:	I don't feel like it's just Microsoft. A lot of websites have become less ideal for desktop users as they also try to cater to mobile users. There is a lot of confused design where we still have a bunch of things that are mishmashes of design philosophies for different devices. Of course, website designs have still increased dramatically in quality overall as there have been several innovations and concepts that make them more modular. However, I still hate ones that have overly large text, hide too many links and use unclear/pictorial touch points instead of text menus. <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884356019] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>I don't feel like it's just Microsoft. A lot of websites have become less ideal for desktop users as they also try to cater to mobile users. There is a lot of confused design where we still have a bunch of things that are mishmashes of design philosophies for different devices. Of course, website designs have still increased dramatically in quality overall as there have been several innovations and concepts that make them more modular. However, I still hate ones that have overly large text, hide too many links and use unclear/pictorial touch points instead of text menus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/07/17 5:27:47 PM #12:	Windows isn't a mobile platform, they're just incompetent. They made a phone and it was completely useless because it didn't run x86. Meanwhile, they try to turn their PC version into a phone OS. They just have no idea what they're doing. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:884356455] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>Windows isn't a mobile platform, they're just incompetent. They made a phone and it was completely useless because it didn't run x86. Meanwhile, they try to turn their PC version into a phone OS. They just have no idea what they're doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 5:33:38 PM #13:	Didn't they get rid of all their mobile OSes? I thought their goal was to just have one Windows, hence why they have these mobile-like apps on desktops and non-touch laptops. IIRC the Windows Phones failed but they still have tablets, so I don't know what you mean by "Windows isn't a mobile platform" <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884356788] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>Didn't they get rid of all their mobile OSes? I thought their goal was to just have one Windows, hence why they have these mobile-like apps on desktops and non-touch laptops. IIRC the Windows Phones failed but they still have tablets, so I don't know what you mean by "Windows isn't a mobile platform"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 08/07/17 5:34:34 PM #14:	DorkLink posted... ...use unclear/pictorial touch points instead of text menus. This is a big peeve of mine. I get that it makes creating a site with multiple languages easier, but there are no universal meanings to most of the symbols. Not to mention having to learn what symbols mean at each encounter. --- FC: 2724-1435-8055 - IGN: PSI_BLUE Spelling errors make me laugh. <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:884356840] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>...use unclear/pictorial touch points instead of text menus.</quote> This is a big peeve of mine. I get that it makes creating a site with multiple languages easier, but there are no universal meanings to most of the symbols. Not to mention having to learn what symbols mean at each encounter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 5:46:47 PM #15:	Sometimes there isn't even a symbol at all, like when there is some kind of pull-down menu that you just have to know to swipe out. I also hate those sites that load in "panes" that are fixed sections that are meant to fit entirely in your window. Sometimes those don't have scrollbars shown and I think I'm looking at the whole site when it's actually just the top pane <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884357494] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>Sometimes there isn't even a symbol at all, like when there is some kind of pull-down menu that you just have to know to swipe out. I also hate those sites that load in "panes" that are fixed sections that are meant to fit entirely in your window. Sometimes those don't have scrollbars shown and I think I'm looking at the whole site when it's actually just the top pane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 5:50:42 PM #16:	Yellow posted... Windows isn't a mobile platform, they're just incompetent. basically. someone with authority and no clue is pushing redesigns of things without allowing a proper software design cycle to generate a well designed product. the completely idiotic Visual Studio icon redesign was the first time I was hit by this. just a completely thoughtless redesign to something that didn't need it that ended up ruining a crucial part of the whole product. but now I'm seeing that same spirit of "change what doesn't need changing, oops I guess we made it way worse" in windows 10. the problem is, from a naive point of view, Microsoft is a company that can make O/S software, word processing software, spreadsheet software, and so on, right? well no, they actually do NOT have that capability. they are a company that happens to own the code base for an O/S, word processor, spreadsheet, etc. they tweak it here and there on the surface, but they aren't generating this kind of software from scratch, like ever, and even with all the tweaks it's the same thing under the covers. Things like the print server, or joining windows domains, or modifying network settings, underneath that's all the same exact stuff that's been there since at least Windows 3.1. it just gets buried underneath more and more BS UIs. I still deal with print server problems that I've been dealing with since Windows 3.1 because there's no real redesign of anything that matters, just the superficial presentation part, trying to wow the end user with a fancy appearance despite having no real difference aside from the presentation. (exceptions abound probably. the "ribbon" idea is a new thing they came up with that maybe isn't all bad. I think I like the windows 10 start menu, and it IS more functional than older start menus.) --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884357734] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>Windows isn't a mobile platform, they're just incompetent.</quote> basically. someone with authority and no clue is pushing redesigns of things without allowing a proper software design cycle to generate a well designed product. the completely idiotic Visual Studio icon redesign was the first time I was hit by this. just a completely thoughtless redesign to something that didn't need it that ended up ruining a crucial part of the whole product. but now I'm seeing that same spirit of "change what doesn't need changing, oops I guess we made it way worse" in windows 10. the problem is, from a naive point of view, Microsoft is a company that can make O/S software, word processing software, spreadsheet software, and so on, right? well no, they actually do NOT have that capability. they are a company that happens to own the code base for an O/S, word processor, spreadsheet, etc. they tweak it here and there on the surface, but they aren't generating this kind of software from scratch, like ever, and even with all the tweaks it's the same thing under the covers. Things like the print server, or joining windows domains, or modifying network settings, underneath that's all the same exact stuff that's been there since at least Windows 3.1. it just gets buried underneath more and more BS UIs. I still deal with print server problems that I've been dealing with since Windows 3.1 because there's no real redesign of anything that matters, just the superficial presentation part, trying to wow the end user with a fancy appearance despite having no real difference aside from the presentation. (exceptions abound probably. the "ribbon" idea is a new thing they came up with that maybe isn't all bad. I think I like the windows 10 start menu, and it IS more functional than older start menus.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 6:21:44 PM #17:	Blue_Thunder posted... Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box. it opened up settings --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884359593] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Thunder posted...</cite> <quote>Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box.</quote> it opened up settings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 08/07/17 6:54:12 PM #18:	DorkLink posted... Why does Windows 10 have both the Control Panel and the "Settings" app You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:884361461] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>Why does Windows 10 have both the Control Panel and the "Settings" app</quote> You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 7:14:23 PM #19:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel. I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing `control panel` in the address bar and pressing enter. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884362549] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel.</quote> I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing control panel in the address bar and pressing enter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 08/07/17 7:37:44 PM #20:	Sahuagin posted... SKARDAVNELNATE posted... You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel. I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing `control panel` in the address bar and pressing enter. Huh. I know I still have Control Panel. However, I did set my connection as "metered" so it wouldn't download updates over my 5GB (yeah, I know) network, so I may not have the latest update. --- FC: 2724-1435-8055 - IGN: PSI_BLUE Spelling errors make me laugh. <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:884363852] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel.</quote> I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing control panel in the address bar and pressing enter.</quote> Huh. I know I still have Control Panel. However, I did set my connection as "metered" so it wouldn't download updates over my 5GB (yeah, I know) network, so I may not have the latest update.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 7:43:56 PM #21:	Sahuagin posted... SKARDAVNELNATE posted... You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel. I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing `control panel` in the address bar and pressing enter. helly posted... Blue_Thunder posted... Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box. it opened up settings --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884364194] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>You must not be running the latest version. They removed the Control Panel.</quote> I doubt this, but who knows. pretty sure my laptop win10 is up to date and still has it. you should be able to easily get to the control panel from a windows explorer window, typing control panel in the address bar and pressing enter.</quote> <cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Thunder posted...</cite> <quote>Put "control panel" in the Search Windows box.</quote> it opened up settings</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 7:47:19 PM #22:	helly posted... it opened up settings man, I sure hope your just trolling. have any evidence? where are people complaining about this? what happens if you run a .cpl from the command line? windowskey-R -> appwiz.cpl --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884364393] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>it opened up settings</quote> man, I sure hope your just trolling. have any evidence? where are people complaining about this? what happens if you run a .cpl from the command line? windowskey-R -> appwiz.cpl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 9:13:22 PM #23:	i don't know what happens if i run a line from command prompt, because i hate using it besides, it really doesn't bother me. everything from control panel is in settings. i have to relearn where one of two things are, but for the most part everything i used control panel for is in a intuitive location the weird thing is that control panel does show up when searched for, but it just opens settings. lemme gif this out real quick --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884369272] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>i don't know what happens if i run a line from command prompt, because i hate using it besides, it really doesn't bother me. everything from control panel is in settings. i have to relearn where one of two things are, but for the most part everything i used control panel for is in a intuitive location the weird thing is that control panel does show up when searched for, but it just opens settings. lemme gif this out real quick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 9:17:48 PM #24:	anyways, talking about really dumb designs, they're redesigning the xbox one dashboard AGAIN. and it's a complete step backwards from what's there now. and guess what's most prominently displayed on the dashboard? ads. the two biggest things on the main dashboard page are ads. you want to play a game? it's the smallest icon. literally. even the icon to go browse through your games is larger than the icon to play or resume whatever game you have been playing. --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884369530] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote> anyways, talking about really dumb designs, they're redesigning the xbox one dashboard AGAIN. and it's a complete step backwards from what's there now. and guess what's most prominently displayed on the dashboard? ads. the two biggest things on the main dashboard page are ads. you want to play a game? it's the smallest icon. literally. even the icon to go browse through your games is larger than the icon to play or resume whatever game you have been playing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 9:54:32 PM #25:	k but, try windows explorer? WinKey-E -> Alt-D -> type `control panel` -> enter probably (I hope) it's just the location that that icon is pointing to is changed --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884371641] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>k but, try windows explorer? WinKey-E -> Alt-D -> type control panel -> enter probably (I hope) it's just the location that that icon is pointing to is changed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 10:03:45 PM #26:	--- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884372194] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/07/17 10:03:57 PM #27:	I don't know if I have an old version. My update schedule has always seemed a little wonky because it rarely updates but when it does, it's always a huge one that takes forever <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884372207] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>I don't know if I have an old version. My update schedule has always seemed a little wonky because it rarely updates but when it does, it's always a huge one that takes forever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 10:18:49 PM #28:	k, thanks muchly for the awesome feedback the last two tests would be: WinKey-R -> `appwiz.cpl` and then the most extreme WinKey-R -> `rundll32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL` --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884373109] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>k, thanks muchly for the awesome feedback the last two tests would be: WinKey-R -> appwiz.cpl and then the most extreme WinKey-R -> rundll32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 10:58:11 PM #29:	to just save myself from making more gifs Sahuagin posted... WinKey-R -> appwiz.cpl just opens settings Sahuagin posted... WinKey-R -> rundll32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL didn't do anything. the dialogue box closed and nothing else happened --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884375227] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>to just save myself from making more gifs <cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>WinKey-R -> appwiz.cpl</quote> just opens settings <cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote>WinKey-R -> rundll32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL</quote> didn't do anything. the dialogue box closed and nothing else happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
acesxhigh 08/07/17 11:01:22 PM #30:	try to right-click on the start button and select control panel that's how I do it --- http://www.last.fm/user/pr0wnage420 <cite>acesxhigh posted [p:884375416] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>try to right-click on the start button and select control panel that's how I do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:02:15 PM #31:	acesxhigh posted... try to right-click on the start button and select control panel that's how I do it sure thing. just uh, where is it? --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884375468] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>acesxhigh posted...</cite> <quote>try to right-click on the start button and select control panel that's how I do it</quote> sure thing. just uh, where is it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
acesxhigh 08/07/17 11:03:24 PM #32:	LOL I dunno dude for me it's where your "Settings" is. guess you're just fucked --- http://www.last.fm/user/pr0wnage420 <cite>acesxhigh posted [p:884375533] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>LOL I dunno dude for me it's where your "Settings" is. guess you're just fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:04:15 PM #33:	not really? like i said, it doesn't bother me, and everything from it has been integrated into settings. --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884375578] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>not really? like i said, it doesn't bother me, and everything from it has been integrated into settings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/07/17 11:09:24 PM #34:	Facebook does this too. They take a small feature and change it with a couple people to see what the reaction is before they do it to everyone else. I guess we can all expect Control Panel to go away soon enough. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:884375897] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>Facebook does this too. They take a small feature and change it with a couple people to see what the reaction is before they do it to everyone else. I guess we can all expect Control Panel to go away soon enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 11:17:54 PM #35:	if the rundll line didn't work, then it's definitely gone what I'd be curious of then is, what's the version info and timestamps on your shell32.dll? --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884376362] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>if the rundll line didn't work, then it's definitely gone what I'd be curious of then is, what's the version info and timestamps on your shell32.dll?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:25:20 PM #36:	..uh ? --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884376737] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>..uh ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 11:29:03 PM #37:	helly posted... everything from it has been integrated into settings what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables) --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884376923] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>everything from it has been integrated into settings</quote> what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 11:30:19 PM #38:	helly posted... ..uh <img> ? the general and details tabs --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884376984] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>..uh <img> ?</quote> the general and details tabs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:31:23 PM #39:	Sahuagin posted... helly posted... everything from it has been integrated into settings what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables) ... dude. --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884377036] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>everything from it has been integrated into settings</quote> what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables)</quote> ... dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 08/07/17 11:35:52 PM #40:	helly posted... dude not sure what that means if you're tired of all the requests, then sorry and thanks for the info. I'll probably get a chance to test it myself relatively soon depending when the update happens. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* http://i.imgur.com/GMouTGs.jpg http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:884377258] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>dude</quote> not sure what that means if you're tired of all the requests, then sorry and thanks for the info. I'll probably get a chance to test it myself relatively soon depending when the update happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:39:28 PM #41:	Sahuagin posted... helly posted... everything from it has been integrated into settings what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables) these are all in windows administrative tools https://puu.sh/x4tuC/d97914ffbd.png besides mail, i don't bother --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884377424] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>everything from it has been integrated into settings</quote> what about: event viewer ODBC computer management services local security policy Mail? (only shows up when Microsoft Outlook is installed) (I guess some of these are probably still accessible from mmc or from their own executables)</quote> these are all in windows administrative tools https://puu.sh/x4tuC/d97914ffbd.png besides mail, i don't bother</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/07/17 11:43:11 PM #42:	I'm genuinely curious about why Helly's Control Panel redirects to Settings, too. Which edition of Windows 10 is running? Home? Pro? Enterprise? Education? <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:884377615] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>I'm genuinely curious about why Helly's Control Panel redirects to Settings, too. Which edition of Windows 10 is running? Home? Pro? Enterprise? Education?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:43:33 PM #43:	home --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884377633] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/07/17 11:44:32 PM #44:	helly posted... home Can you screenshot your update history? <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:884377686] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>home</quote> Can you screenshot your update history?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/07/17 11:46:09 PM #45:	https://puu.sh/x4tJc/2565061b8d.png https://puu.sh/x4tKZ/bec8777232.png --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884377772] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>https://puu.sh/x4tJc/2565061b8d.png https://puu.sh/x4tKZ/bec8777232.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/08/17 9:11:01 AM #46:	helly posted... home Bingo, I have pro and it still has the control panel (although I never use it). My tablet has home though and there is no control panel. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:884393425] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote><cite>helly posted...</cite> <quote>home</quote> Bingo, I have pro and it still has the control panel (although I never use it). My tablet has home though and there is no control panel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DorkLink 08/09/17 3:45:31 PM #47:	@helly I had a pretty big update to Windows yesterday, but I still have the Control Panel <cite>DorkLink posted [p:884476000] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>@helly I had a pretty big update to Windows yesterday, but I still have the Control Panel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helly 08/09/17 3:52:01 PM #48:	yeah, so did i, and the control panel came back. whatever version of windows i was on must have been broken or something. however, my actual PC is on the insider program, got an update for it today, and it doesn't have the control panel now. so idfk what's going on --- killin' darth vader with my mother****in' kick drum <cite>helly posted [p:884476359] in Why does W... [t:75646692]...</cite> <quote>yeah, so did i, and the control panel came back. whatever version of windows i was on must have been broken or something. however, my actual PC is on the insider program, got an update for it today, and it doesn't have the control panel now. so idfk what's going on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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