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RyoCaliente 08/09/17 7:38:03 PM #301: |
dowolf posted...
that's not how cutting holes work. Ignoring how ridiculous the idea of jumping over a wall of pointy things is in the first place. I mean, in the episode there is literally a Dothraki who jumps off his horse behind the wall and starts cutting dudes. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/09/17 10:29:16 PM #302: |
XIII_rocks posted...
Jesus not being at work makes the wait for the next episode so much more fucking difficult I feel like this post needed a comma. I thought that "Jesus not being at work" was a reference to something. --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/09/17 10:54:34 PM #303: |
RyoCaliente posted...
dowolf posted...that's not how cutting holes work. Ignoring how ridiculous the idea of jumping over a wall of pointy things is in the first place. After the shield wall is compromised. Even if one can do this here and there it changes nothing to the outcome. The only real argument that the dothraki would win is if you would argue their tactics would be different if they did not have dragons in their strategy. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/09/17 11:16:34 PM #304: |
That dude definitely died though
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XIII_rocks 08/10/17 12:25:08 AM #305: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
XIII_rocks posted...Jesus not being at work makes the wait for the next episode so much more fucking difficult Part of Jesus' work is ensuring time passes normally? --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solfadore 08/10/17 12:40:48 AM #306: |
This is wonderful. --- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/10/17 12:49:09 AM #307: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
I don't like the Trial of the Seven idea. I mean, I do kind of like it in theory, but I really don't think the show would ever go for it. They've consistently undermined the magic/ritual element of things. I would say Jorah gets Longclaw back, Jaime keeps Widow's Wail, and Jon gets Dawn somehow (AKA Lightbringer...because what brings light? Dawn.) --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RyoCaliente 08/10/17 5:53:30 AM #308: |
foolm0r0n posted...
That dude definitely died though After killing 2 - 3 dudes himself. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/10/17 6:48:08 AM #309: |
dawn's not VS even in the books and is never mentioned by name in the show!
it is clearly beautiful af though so i wouldn't object to that type of asspull https://patricksponaugle.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/dawn.jpg jaime with WW seems like an awful waste unless he gets a wight hand or something lmao --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreaper 08/10/17 7:48:10 AM #310: |
Corrik posted...
That feels like it would be the whole point. It's a dragon attack backed by vicious light cavalry. I don't think Dany or Tyrion or anyone involved would have suggested the Dothraki come to Westeros only to open-field charge into the Lannisters like that. --- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 7:58:10 AM #311: |
neonreaper posted...
Corrik posted... We can't assume otherwise as nothing else has been suggested it would be different otherwise. Imo --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 08/10/17 8:34:31 AM #312: |
Solfadore posted...
Hahahaha --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/10/17 8:57:02 AM #313: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
dawn's not VS even in the books and is never mentioned by name in the show! oh it's not? shit still i feel like its not a coincidence that jon was born like the exact second arthur dayne died 100 feet away. that has to mean something. --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/10/17 9:04:25 AM #314: |
the wiki makes it sound like it has similar properties despite not being VS:
The blade is as pale as milkglass,[1] unlike dark Valyrian steel, but is similar in strength and sharpness.[6] Unlike other houses who have ancestral swords, House Dayne does not pass its sword from lord to heir. Only a knight of House Dayne who is deemed worthy can wield Dawn, and the Sword of the Morning is envied throughout the Seven Kingdoms.[6] everything about that makes me believe dawn is Lightbringer. the name, the fact that you need to be deemed worthy to carry it, etc. jon not being of house dayne complicates things...unless all the r+l=j theories are wrong and ned knocked up ashara. --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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My Immortal 08/10/17 9:10:49 AM #315: |
Can we talk about the fact that Season 8 might not air until 2019?
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SeabassDebeste 08/10/17 9:29:51 AM #316: |
it's not VS but it clearly is a sword with a lot of mythology behind it, which in *my* opinion means it should be able to fight the white walkers
good point about jon being born when ser arthur died i think putting too much stock into the prophecies (azor ahai, for instance) is a mistake, especially in the show. some fans theorize lightbringer isn't a sword but a person. only tangentially related, the valonqar prophecy was hilariously un-subtle in AFFC and is one of the worst narrative devices from GRRM. --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/10/17 9:30:01 AM #317: |
My Immortal posted...
Can we talk about the fact that Season 8 might not air until 2019? i'd rather not tbh --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 08/10/17 11:10:52 AM #318: |
Can someone explain why these swords are important? I feel like the show does not really get into this at all other than the significance of VS.
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HanOfTheNekos 08/10/17 11:12:44 AM #319: |
They're forged with obsidian I think.
So they can kill White Walkers. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/10/17 11:24:04 AM #320: |
tbh, i'm just circle-jerking about dawn right now, and a lot of it is just fantasy fans being fantasy fans - the sword is mentioned a few times as being a super-badass sword (the wielder of it is known as the 'sword of the morning').
arthur dayne is stated by ned in bran's memory to have been the finest knight he ever knew. after the tower of joy, ned returns ser arthur's sword to starfall, where it sits with his family. there's also the fact that dawn appears in one of the most legendary book passages. we've never seen the actual fight at the tower of joy (nor ned actually explicitly finding lyanna's baby), but we see the pre-fight showdown in ned's dream in book 1, and it's really beautifully written. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6613029-i-looked-for-you-on-the-trident-ned-said-to (note that the 'wraiths' are ned's bannermen, most of whom get slaughtered - they're referred to as wraiths because they're shadowy in his fever dream) --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/10/17 11:36:10 AM #321: |
hnnnng, just reading that description
A lot of the love from Ser Arthur also comes from Jaime, I think. His internal monologue is extremely concerned with the meaning of knighthood and honor, and he constantly thinks of how he looked up to Arthur Dayne. --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 11:39:11 AM #322: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Can someone explain why these swords are important? I feel like the show does not really get into this at all other than the significance of VS. Can kill WhiteWalkers, are extraordinarily light for their size which makes them the wielder have tremendous advantage with them, and are super rare as cannot be produced anymore. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 08/10/17 11:41:40 AM #323: |
ASOIAF is rich with such lush fantasy lore. Mm, Dawn. I really want to do a reread sometime soon, but I can't bring myself to do so 'til we know when Book 6 is arriving. <_>
My Immortal posted... Can we talk about the fact that Season 8 might not air until 2019? I'm honestly completely okay with this. Gives me some extra time with Game of Thrones new and unending in my life. I treasure it, because for the rest of my life, however much longer I live, I'll have seen it all and I'll never have new episodes to look forward to again. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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My Immortal 08/10/17 11:42:27 AM #324: |
Jeff Zero posted...
ASOIAF is rich with such lush fantasy lore. Mm, Dawn. I really want to do a reread sometime soon, but I can't bring myself to do so 'til we know when Book 6 is arriving. <_> This. I was just talking to my husband about this yesterday. I want to re-read but if Book 6 isn't out for another 3 years still then if I do my re-read now I'm going to want to re-read again prior to Book 6. Better to just wait. --- #VnaaVimmDrnuddma ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/10/17 12:12:54 PM #325: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
tbh, i'm just circle-jerking about dawn right now, and a lot of it is just fantasy fans being fantasy fans - the sword is mentioned a few times as being a super-badass sword (the wielder of it is known as the 'sword of the morning'). Man, why did all the most badass characters have to die before the series even started --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 08/10/17 12:20:43 PM #326: |
to give the Night King a fighting chance
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Jeff Zero 08/10/17 12:35:25 PM #327: |
Quick link to YouTube-quality version of last week's battle:
HBO's Making Of featurette for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE2wcBeyNdk&t=1s --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 08/10/17 1:05:56 PM #328: |
I saw that before
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RyoCaliente 08/10/17 2:01:55 PM #329: |
I also just realized that in Season 1, when that one soldier intervenes in the fight between Jaime and Ned, Jaime smacks him in the face for interrupting their battle.
Six seasons later, Jaime is quite glad Dickon intervened in the fight between him and that Dothraki. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/10/17 2:08:58 PM #330: |
RyoCaliente posted...
I also just realized that in Season 1, when that one soldier intervenes in the fight between Jaime and Ned, Jaime smacks him in the face for interrupting their battle. S1 Jaime wanted that duel so he could kill Ned without anyone complaining, S7 Jaime is concerned about crazy barbarians invading the kingdom. Also he's undergone significant character development since then. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/10/17 5:17:26 PM #331: |
Thanks for that Anagram
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Terastodon 08/10/17 5:47:14 PM #332: |
Thought:
Fuck that one specific red herring that people have been talking about for years, stick to the obvious: Jon is the daughter of Ashara Dayne and Ned Stark, making him eligible to be the Sword of the Morning, the wielder of Dawn. Then Dawn is realy Lightbringer and therefore Jon is Azor Ahai. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/10/17 5:53:11 PM #333: |
Terastodon posted...
Thought: But uh, didn't --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 08/10/17 6:46:21 PM #334: |
Wasn't Book!Dawn said to have been forged from a meteorite or something?
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Terastodon 08/10/17 7:05:12 PM #335: |
Anagram posted...
Terastodon posted...Thought: We see Lyanna die and hand over a child whispering something to Ned, close up on the child before dramatically cutting to Jon. And yes, all book readers want to believe that theory and feel smug about it. Nothing is confirmed however much people want it to be. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 08/10/17 7:07:35 PM #336: |
It is confirmed lol.
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xp1337 08/10/17 7:09:07 PM #337: |
I think at worst you can say that only
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FFDragon 08/10/17 7:09:39 PM #338: |
Terastodon posted...
And yes, all book readers want to believe that theory and feel smug about it. Nothing is confirmed however much people want it to be. I mean, HBO confirmed it so for the show at least it's true. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52fc05c9e4b08fc45bd99090/t/581b995520099e6a0af40df0/1478203742111/ --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 8:50:32 PM #339: |
It is confirmed via the show and HBO.
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JetJaguar 08/11/17 1:02:20 AM #340: |
xp1337 posted...
I think at worst you can say that only The baby could be --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 08/11/17 8:49:00 PM #341: |
So noob question but what exactly are the 7 kingdoms? I keep doing it and I end up with like 8 or 9
The crownlands (KL) Westerlands (where the Rock is) Reach Vale Dorne North Iron Islands Stormlands Riverlands The only ones I'm definitely sure of are North, Iron Islands, Dorne. And maybe the Reach. I don't know which of the rest are or aren't. --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/11/17 8:51:36 PM #342: |
the riverlands and crownlands are not kingdoms.
you're missing the vale --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Janus5k 08/11/17 8:53:26 PM #343: |
I thought the Riverlands were but the Iron Islands weren't
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SeabassDebeste 08/11/17 8:55:12 PM #344: |
i believe historically that the lannisters and greyjoys contested the riverlands a lot
and that the tullys were given the riverlands by aegon the conquerer --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/11/17 8:55:19 PM #345: |
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms
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MrGreenonion 08/11/17 8:57:22 PM #346: |
The Iron Islands and the Crownlands are not kingdoms.
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Samurai7 08/11/17 9:02:10 PM #347: |
The Iron Islands are definitely one of the seven kingdoms
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XIII_rocks 08/11/17 9:04:56 PM #348: |
And thus you see my dilemma
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XIII_rocks 08/11/17 9:06:34 PM #349: |
So KL/The Crownlands is like Washington DC where it's just its own thing?
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Corrik 08/11/17 9:15:00 PM #350: |
XIII_rocks posted...
So KL/The Crownlands is like Washington DC where it's just its own thing? He posted a link explaining it... --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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