Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Knights of the Frozen Throne

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VeryInsane
07/30/17 7:26:12 PM
#51:


fatlock sounds really weird when they have lifetap >_>

Another new card

gys1Si7

Hunter card draw aw yeah
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Chaeix
07/30/17 7:33:29 PM
#52:


that card could give carnassa hunter a huge boost
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dowolf
07/30/17 8:06:31 PM
#53:


FFDragon posted...
If they get a card that's like

Battlecry: Put a minion on top of its owner's deck

it would be okay

two card silence/assassinate

Either this, or the Warlock Hero somehow makes mill warlock work.

I wouldn't expect it to.

The hunter card is insane.
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MariaTaylor
07/30/17 8:32:29 PM
#54:


hunter card draw oh yes

this is like pornography for me
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azuarc
07/30/17 8:40:20 PM
#55:


okay, admittedly I hadn't considered the lack of synergy between life tap and gnomish vampire. I guess mill is kinda ridiculous unless warlock gets a card like the one warrior did that puts their hand in the deck.
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dowolf
07/30/17 9:12:07 PM
#56:


azuarc posted...
okay, admittedly I hadn't considered the lack of synergy between life tap and gnomish vampire. I guess mill is kinda ridiculous unless warlock gets a card like the one warrior did that puts their hand in the deck.

I mean, there's ways around that. Prince Malchezar in a Tier 1 constructed deck would make me so happy >_>

But I'm currently imagining a world where Warlock's new Hero Power is "opponent mills 2 cards," and I kind of like it.
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Camden
07/30/17 9:33:40 PM
#57:


I think the Warlock hero power is going to try and push the discard mechanic over the top in some way. Maybe "Discover a card you discarded this game. It costs 2 less" or something like that.
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dowolf
07/30/17 9:56:38 PM
#58:


the problem is, the hero power has to either be better than Life Tap, or it has to do something completely different.

What you're describing is generally worse than Life Tap, since your objective is to discard cards you don't care about. Yes, you're going to discard cards you want sometimes, but...!
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VeryInsane
07/30/17 10:13:16 PM
#60:


dowolf posted...
the problem is, the hero power has to either be better than Life Tap, or it has to do something completely different.

What you're describing is generally worse than Life Tap, since your objective is to discard cards you don't care about. Yes, you're going to discard cards you want sometimes, but...!


The immediate effect can be pretty good too.

It's apparently 10 mana according to leaks, which gives it strict competition with Lord J. Maybe something like fill your board with random demons or something idk
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trdl23
07/30/17 11:44:23 PM
#61:


UltimaterializerX posted...
My favorite example was either Sphinx's Revelation or Siege Rhino. I knew both would be great, especially the latter with it being in the same format as Sylvan Caryatid. "It'll never come out on curve, you're looking at it being a turn 7". Meanwhile me and the people I know who actually know what we're talking about completely dominated with it and made sure to rub it in. There is nothing better than embarrassing a pseudo-pro.

Maybe it's just my area being a strong competitive place, but I can't even imagine people saying those two would be bad.
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dowolf
07/31/17 12:44:10 AM
#62:


Archbishop Benedictus
7 Mana 4/6
Priest Legendary Minion
Battlecry: Shuffle a copy of your opponent's deck into your deck

holy shit that's awful.
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Camden
07/31/17 12:44:43 AM
#63:


http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/07/31/igns-exclusive-knights-of-the-frozen-throne-card-reveal

Disappointed...
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Chaeix
07/31/17 12:50:31 AM
#64:


Camden posted...
http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/07/31/igns-exclusive-knights-of-the-frozen-throne-card-reveal

Disappointed...

that is the most bizarre card i've ever seen and i have NO IDEA what to think of it

mill priest to be broken as fuck?
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Camden
07/31/17 12:53:17 AM
#65:


Broken as in unusable, sure.
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HeroDelTiempo17
07/31/17 12:59:39 AM
#66:


That's a fucking incredible card. Meme Priest is best Priest.
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MariaTaylor
07/31/17 1:01:28 AM
#67:


dowolf posted...
Archbishop Benedictus
7 Mana 4/6
Priest Legendary Minion
Battlecry: Shuffle a copy of your opponent's deck into your deck


I thought this was a joke post

then I looked

haha wow
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Chaeix
07/31/17 1:03:48 AM
#68:


just imagine the hemet, jungle hunger synergy
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MariaTaylor
07/31/17 1:04:54 AM
#69:


hey at least gnomish vampire will see play now. you can put it in your deck with a bunch of other awful cards so when your opponent plays benedictus they get a terrible deck.
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Camden
07/31/17 1:07:14 AM
#70:


Sometimes being a fan of Priest and not wanting to play meme decks is incredibly hard.
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dowolf
07/31/17 2:19:08 AM
#72:


...You do realize it'll put duplicate things into your deck, right?
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MariaTaylor
07/31/17 2:58:20 AM
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I found this video interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTNvKnVl8gE


some cool information about how the freeze effect works, and the new cryostasis card
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CoolCly
07/31/17 3:00:54 AM
#76:


thats a day 1 craft to go into my thief priest deck for sure
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CoolCly
07/31/17 3:01:28 AM
#77:


Camden posted...
Sometimes being a fan of Priest and not wanting to play meme decks is incredibly hard.



just you wait until the death knight card

SHADOWFORM BABY
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KokoroAkechi
07/31/17 3:41:51 AM
#78:


I just qued into a TGT Paladin.

>.>
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masterplum
07/31/17 6:08:29 AM
#79:


Have you guys checked out the eternal card game?

It's like a mix between hearthstone and magic. I've been loving it because it doesn't have the bad RNG that hearthstone has
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VeryInsane
07/31/17 8:52:37 AM
#80:


9MaM124

I dunno how I feel about this card. Corruption + Mind Control.

Possibly good with glacial shard?
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VeryInsane
07/31/17 10:02:40 AM
#81:


5VUyg9v

Omg Pirate Warrior is getting even stronger

Edit: Actually... dunno if I would rather have this or Naga Corsair
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dowolf
07/31/17 10:21:28 AM
#82:


VeryInsane posted...
9MaM124

I dunno how I feel about this card. Corruption + Mind Control.

Possibly good with glacial shard?

Mnn... Maybe? But then you're playing Glaical Shard.

The pirate I think is better in rogue, but yeah. Any hints of giving stuff to Pirate Warrior is terrifying.
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ClyTheCool
07/31/17 10:31:40 AM
#83:


masterplum posted...
Have you guys checked out the eternal card game?

It's like a mix between hearthstone and magic. I've been loving it because it doesn't have the bad RNG that hearthstone has



Uhh... mix?

It's basically a 100% carbon copy of magic...

It's pretty fun though. I only played it a bit but my friend got super into it
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masterplum
07/31/17 10:44:32 AM
#84:


ClyTheCool posted...
masterplum posted...
Have you guys checked out the eternal card game?

It's like a mix between hearthstone and magic. I've been loving it because it doesn't have the bad RNG that hearthstone has



Uhh... mix?

It's basically a 100% carbon copy of magic...

It's pretty fun though. I only played it a bit but my friend got super into it


Definitely not a carbon copy. It's a very very streamlined version of magic. (But not as streamlined as hearthstone) I think that makes it more accessible.
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ClyTheCool
07/31/17 11:49:06 AM
#85:


What do you think is different?
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ShatteredElysium
07/31/17 12:42:23 PM
#87:


Agree that discover cards being able to find themselves is beyond stupid
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HeroDelTiempo17
07/31/17 12:53:05 PM
#88:


ClyTheCool posted...
What do you think is different?


The Mana system is the same but the way your color requirements work is totally different. And they actually weight your opening hand to reduce mana screw, which is huge. Plus it just plays with digital-only mechanics that magic can't do. Echo (add a copy of this card to your hand) and Warcry (top unit or weapon of your deck get a buff when this attacks) are both neat mechanics. It fixes a lot of MTG's clunky aspects while trying to balance some of its failed concepts like auras and weapons, and plays around in similar areas as Hearthstone without being a total fiesta. I particularly like their solution to player weapons. Instead of weapons having a durability, they give you armor, and when all youe armor is removed by any means, the weapon is destroyed. It's a neat game and it's starting to come into its own. Hearthstone was ALSO just a shitty MTG clone for a while too, remember.
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VeryInsane
07/31/17 1:07:00 PM
#89:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KU-_-CtJw


Just dropping this here
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skullbone
07/31/17 1:49:08 PM
#90:


VeryInsane posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KU-_-CtJw


Just dropping this here


That was good as fuck
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dowolf
07/31/17 1:58:39 PM
#91:


fuck is such a weird word.
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Emeraldegg
07/31/17 2:01:12 PM
#92:


So I played HS a while back and stopped because I got tired of seeing C'thun, how is the metagame right now? Is it still shahman and everyone else, or has it diversified a little bit?
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dowolf
07/31/17 2:11:50 PM
#93:


The metagame is really diverse. Shaman is still good, but every class has a viable T1 or T2 deck... Except Warlock.

Also C'Thun decks are no longer really a thing.
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Emeraldegg
07/31/17 2:23:26 PM
#94:


Hooray! I guess I'll reinstall then even though most of my favorite cards will be unusable in standard. Oh well.
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VeryInsane
07/31/17 2:27:48 PM
#95:


Yeah it's diverse with several archetypes being playable. Just expect to see pirates.

I would say Shaman is the 5th best class right now.

Druid >= Mage > Warrior >= Paladin > Shaman >>> Priest > Rogue >>>>>>>>>> Hunter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Warlock
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Camden
07/31/17 2:33:17 PM
#96:


I have no problems with being able to discover the discover card outside of Glyph.

Also, I think I'm the only person in the Hearthstone community who doesn't care about Ben Brode raps.

Emeraldegg posted...
So I played HS a while back and stopped because I got tired of seeing C'thun, how is the metagame right now? Is it still shahman and everyone else, or has it diversified a little bit?


The meta is actually ridiculously diverse right now. Shaman is still good, but Token/Evolve Shaman seems to be the most popular archetype. Some people are playing Elemental Shaman. Warrior has Pirate Warrior and Taunt/Quest Warrior. Mage has Control and Secret, and Exodia somewhat. Rogue still has Miracle. Druid has a super aggro deck, a big fatty deck and a Jade deck. Priest has Silence and Dragon. Paladin has aggro Murloc. Hunter used to have some aggro and midrange but I don't see it that often now.

Honestly, as long as you don't want to play Warlock you can probably play a tier 1/2 deck. Warlock is garbage right now.

To be honest, though, I'm probably not the best person to be answering this as I mainly play arena, so some of these decks may not be as good as they were a month or so ago.
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HeroDelTiempo17
07/31/17 4:00:30 PM
#97:


X36rA9W

All these druid taunts with high health and comically low attack make me think we are getting a Doran effect as the Druid Death Knight Hero.

Doran is a MTG card that says creatures use their toughness instead of their attack to deal damage.

Prepare for BUTT DRUID
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Emeraldegg
07/31/17 4:05:16 PM
#98:


So what exactly is quest "insert class here"? Also exodia? I didn't know this was yugioh

Also I'm the type that's gonna play what I want to play anyway, so I'm not that concerned with playing a tier 1 deck.
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FFDragon
07/31/17 4:14:08 PM
#99:


Each class has a quest now that gives a reward when completed.

Exodia mage is quest mage that uses 4 sorc apprentices (2 actual ones and 2 molten reflections) and Antonidas to go infinite with fireballs.
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VeryInsane
07/31/17 4:15:33 PM
#100:


Quests are legendary cards for each class added during Ungoro. They are 1 mana spells with a reward being a strong minion or spell if you complete them

With Rogue Quest's nerf the only good one is Warrior's but Mage can appear in gimmick decks aka "Exodia" where you use Time Warp and Apprentices/Tony to create infinite fireballs or Giants/Alex in order to kill your opponent with a combo
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