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MZero11
07/04/17 9:24:42 PM
#301:


transience posted...
congrats!

I hate these stupid letters that players write when they change teams


yeah, Lebron's was alright because it was novel (and he's Lebron) but now it's just overdone. But at least no one decided to copy the TV special!
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Nelson_Mandela
07/04/17 9:51:25 PM
#302:


Derek Jeter making a killing on those things
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SeabassDebeste
07/04/17 10:00:08 PM
#303:


transience posted...
I really want a Boston fan to explain their rotation, not because I'm doubting it but because I'm super curious

Well, I'm suspect that one of Smart/Bradley/Crowder needs to be traded to make the cap space official for this.

I think we're shallow at the 4/5. Horford can play either, and I guess Yabusele is supposed to be the 5? Hayward/Crowder are gonna see a lot of time at the small-ball 4.

If no one leaves, then I'm guessing the starting lineup is Thomas-Bradley-Hayward-Crowder-Horford, with Yabusele playing backup 4/5, Smart playing the backup 1/2, and Jayson/Jaylen absorbing the 2-3-4 minutes.

We'd be hilariously undersized...

But yeah I'm curious myself. I'm hoping Danny isn't done. Would have loved to get Paul George for future picks + maybe Bradley/Smart/Crowder.
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Dr_Football
07/04/17 11:05:06 PM
#304:


Thunder signed Patrick Patterson, 3 years, $16.4 million

Humorously the largest contract Presti has ever given to a free agent from another team
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SeabassDebeste
07/04/17 11:27:22 PM
#305:


humorously, also the shooter that OKC always needed to surround durant and westbrook with
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TheRock1525
07/04/17 11:34:10 PM
#306:


So your top 4 in the East is gonna be Cleveland, Boston, Toronto, and Washington.

After that, you may as well throw darts at a dartboard.

Edit: Bucks are also a team for the top 4.
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KommunistKoala
07/04/17 11:36:00 PM
#307:


Philly gonna get in EZ
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SeabassDebeste
07/04/17 11:40:24 PM
#308:


sixers, pistons, heat?
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TheRock1525
07/04/17 11:42:38 PM
#309:


Like the only teams I could pick to definitely not make it is the Nets, Magic, Knicks because lolknicks, and Bulls.

Everyone else is a toss up.
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TheRock1525
07/04/17 11:44:09 PM
#310:


Oh and the Pacers because they lost George and Teague but who the fuck knows.
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transience
07/04/17 11:54:47 PM
#311:


yeah, was just thinking that the final teams are probably locked in more or less at this point. Gallinari went to the Clips for 3/65 and Crawford and a first got shipped off, but eh.

west:

warriors

rockets
spurs
thunder

nuggets
timberwolves

trail blazers
clippers
jazz

others

east:

cavs

celtics

wizards
bucks
raptors
76ers (hopefully)
heat

others
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SeabassDebeste
07/04/17 11:56:27 PM
#312:


knicks could sneak in this year. they haven't really gotten worse and everyone else has. they won 30+ last year. and yeah, that's mainly an indictment of the east.

miami's probably in, detroit could be in, philly seems like it could be in. charlotte should be competitive.

outside: nets, magic, pacers, bulls, hawks??, knicks
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transcience
07/04/17 11:57:25 PM
#313:


yeah I think the Knicks could do okay if Carmelo stays and the culture gets better now that Phil is gone
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SeabassDebeste
07/04/17 11:58:31 PM
#314:


also this isn't exactly a bold prediction, but i think one of the playoff teams could just fall off inexplicably this year. could be toronto.

... but i don't see how they don't make it into the playoffs, even if they're like a 38-win team
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ShatteredElysium
07/04/17 11:58:51 PM
#315:


We (Magic) should be trash this year and should try tank for picks. So I absolutely expect us to do the best job of fucking that up by making the playoffs as an 8 seed with like 34 wins because loleast
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transience
07/05/17 12:08:21 AM
#316:


the thing about the east is they still play east teams more than west teams. even if there's 10 miserable east teams, someone has to win those games.
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ShatteredElysium
07/05/17 12:18:43 AM
#317:


Right but I expect a lot of traded wins between lesser teams combined with getting hosed by the West. More so than usual
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th3l3fty
07/05/17 12:48:34 AM
#318:


transience posted...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/22893-Utah-Jazz-The-Most-Disgusting-Fans-In-The-NBA

oh look, another article where people bash an entire fanbase over a couple people

how totally original
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LeonhartFour
07/05/17 1:16:58 AM
#319:


Apparently the Nets offered Otto Porter the max

if the Wiz are smart they won't match
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TheRock1525
07/05/17 1:29:10 AM
#320:


LeonhartFour posted...
Apparently the Nets offered Otto Porter the max

if the Wiz are smart they won't match


I'm torn.

Wiz match and then Nets are likely to offer KCP a $20+ million a year contract instead.

But I kinda want KCP gone at any price, really.
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CherryCokes
07/05/17 1:40:32 AM
#321:


transience posted...
I guess they renounced Olynyk? the purge begins

I really want a Boston fan to explain their rotation, not because I'm doubting it but because I'm super curious


I fully expect that Crowder will get traded for cap relief and a cheap, veteran big, for one. They might look to sign or trade for an experienced shooter, too, if one is available.

The Celtics don't exactly run with a traditional shooting guard, and all 3 of the players who played the 5 are gone (Zeller was waived, Olynyk's RFA rights were renounced, and Amir Johnson went to Philly). My expectation is that outside of the traditional 2-2-1, you'll see them play 2 guards, 3 forwards a good amount. Maybe some 1 guard, 3 forwards, and a center sets. Horford tends to play better as the 4, because he doesn't have to rim protect as much. I think you'll probably see Smart play off-ball more, especially if he gets any consistency in his shot.

It's hard to know how all this will shake out though, until the roster is more settled.

1: Thomas, Smart, Rozier
2: Bradley, (Bird/Allen?)
3: Hayward, Brown, Tatum, [Crowder]
4: Horford, Yabusele
5: Zizic, Theis
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transcience
07/05/17 6:53:51 AM
#322:


th3l3fty posted...
transience posted...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/22893-Utah-Jazz-The-Most-Disgusting-Fans-In-The-NBA

oh look, another article where people bash an entire fanbase over a couple people

how totally original


I just googled quickly and pasted the first result. they're like philly+. lots of examples over the years.

CherryCokes posted...
transience posted...
I guess they renounced Olynyk? the purge begins

I really want a Boston fan to explain their rotation, not because I'm doubting it but because I'm super curious


I fully expect that Crowder will get traded for cap relief and a cheap, veteran big, for one. They might look to sign or trade for an experienced shooter, too, if one is available.

The Celtics don't exactly run with a traditional shooting guard, and all 3 of the players who played the 5 are gone (Zeller was waived, Olynyk's RFA rights were renounced, and Amir Johnson went to Philly). My expectation is that outside of the traditional 2-2-1, you'll see them play 2 guards, 3 forwards a good amount. Maybe some 1 guard, 3 forwards, and a center sets. Horford tends to play better as the 4, because he doesn't have to rim protect as much. I think you'll probably see Smart play off-ball more, especially if he gets any consistency in his shot.

It's hard to know how all this will shake out though, until the roster is more settled.

1: Thomas, Smart, Rozier
2: Bradley, (Bird/Allen?)
3: Hayward, Brown, Tatum, [Crowder]
4: Horford, Yabusele
5: Zizic, Theis


I think they're nuts if they play that big? they have a lot of wings and should get them on the floor more often. Tatum looks good and he'd have a hard time finding minutes there. ideally they would play Horford at the 5 but you'd know the success of that better than me.
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SeabassDebeste
07/05/17 9:20:46 AM
#323:


yeah, when you list it that way the talent concentration is very obvious there, and young dudes need minutes to grow

C's will be playing hilariously small
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transcience
07/05/17 9:48:00 AM
#324:


this is why I thought Fultz was a good pick for them. there's more of a need at guard.
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SeabassDebeste
07/05/17 9:53:47 AM
#325:


eh, no point in drafting for need that high in the lottery. based on a sample size of one preseason game's highlights, i'm all in on tatum!!!
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neonreaper
07/05/17 10:04:59 AM
#326:


it's raining taters!!!
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th3l3fty
07/05/17 10:59:54 AM
#327:


it's not even preseason!
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SeabassDebeste
07/05/17 11:10:51 AM
#328:


true i meant summer league

but still!

https://streamable.com/eki2v
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LeonhartFour
07/05/17 11:16:43 AM
#329:


Celtics the Summer League All-Stars huh

I guess if that's all you can get
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th3l3fty
07/05/17 11:17:29 AM
#330:


20% 3-point shooter in his professional career tbqh
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neonreaper
07/05/17 1:53:40 PM
#331:


LeonhartFour posted...
Celtics the Summer League All-Stars huh

I guess if that's all you can get


it's never too early to call Jaylen Brown DPOY
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MZero11
07/05/17 2:19:33 PM
#332:


neonreaper posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Celtics the Summer League All-Stars huh

I guess if that's all you can get


it's never too early to call Jaylen Brown DPOY


Lebron's about to be neutralized by Jaylen Brown
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neonreaper
07/05/17 2:32:52 PM
#333:


Jaylen Brown fear is real and why most of the best players are in the western conference and wouldnt you know it Lebron is thinking of heading to LA
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MZero11
07/05/17 7:03:45 PM
#334:


Celtics rumored to be targeting Marc Gasol
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LeonhartFour
07/05/17 7:04:42 PM
#335:


Looks like the Heat are going to give Dion Waiters a long-term deal since they failed to get Hayward.
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SeabassDebeste
07/05/17 7:37:23 PM
#336:


neonreaper posted...
Jaylen Brown fear is real and why most of the best players are in the western conference and wouldnt you know it Lebron is thinking of heading to LA

celtics aren't trapped in a conference with lebron...

LEBRON'S TRAPPED IN A CONFERENCE WITH JAYLEN BROWN
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transience
07/05/17 7:44:01 PM
#337:


I don't get it
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SeabassDebeste
07/05/17 7:45:19 PM
#338:


watchmen reference, probably not a very recognizable one at that
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transience
07/05/17 7:46:12 PM
#339:


no I mean Jaylen Brown
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MZero11
07/05/17 7:55:36 PM
#340:


The league is changing man. KD is a veteran role player and Jaylen Brown is the most feared defensive nightmare in the NBA.
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neonreaper
07/05/17 7:59:28 PM
#341:


Jaylen had a few good defensive possessions against Lebron so we can't trade him for the moon
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Dr_Football
07/05/17 10:56:07 PM
#342:


signed Roberson 3 years $30 million

we offered him 4 years $48 million before the season

shrug
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transience
07/06/17 12:48:46 AM
#343:


is anyone else giving him 10 million a year?

I'm still stuck in like 2005 where 10 million a year means you're a great player
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SeabassDebeste
07/06/17 7:58:54 AM
#344:


the max contract for a guy coming off his second contract is over 30/year now,

10/year is slightly better than the MLE from 2011, i'd say
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transcience
07/06/17 8:07:30 AM
#345:


yeah. it's weird
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ShatteredElysium
07/06/17 11:03:14 AM
#346:


Vegas have set the over/under on Magic wins at 40.5. Lol, wtf are they smoking. We got 29 last season for the record
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Nelson_Mandela
07/06/17 1:09:03 PM
#347:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Vegas have set the over/under on Magic wins at 40.5. Lol, wtf are they smoking. We got 29 last season for the record

East will be utter garbage, even more than the past few years somehow. Maybe that's the logic?
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transcience
07/06/17 1:17:36 PM
#348:


Orlando seems bad even by those standards. how many people can name 3 players on Orlando right now?
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MZero11
07/06/17 1:21:54 PM
#349:


transcience posted...
Orlando seems bad even by those standards. how many people can name 3 players on Orlando right now?


Elfrid Payton
Evan Fournier
...Jonathan Isaac

That was actually a lot harder than I thought it would be. If we don't count the recent draft pick I probably couldn't name a third player
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ShatteredElysium
07/06/17 1:29:41 PM
#350:


I mean I can name them all but I thought the go to names would be Vucevic, Payton and Aaron Gordon
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