Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves

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oh yeah MI voted me too day2

I cant imagine ALL of scum voted me day2 besides Chris
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VeryInsane posted...

Although MI/KBM implies extremely cohesive scumteam Day 2


Hm

Scum team appeared fairly cohesive in retrospect? Shit only started to fall apart for them when Chris was shot
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I imagine Chris might have been a bit drained after his last scumgame
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tag
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Refresh my memory MI, why not bus Dowolf and Stan?
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

I don't buy this.

I mean, you voted for me at the end of DAy 4 with less than 20 second left. Clearly it didn't take you a reread to decide "I was scum."

You looked really bad at the end of Day 4 and I'm not the only person who thought so.

Bad enough to throw out your town read on me and join your number 1 scumspect MI and your number 2/3 scumspect VI?

You jumped to a lynch on a player you thought was town and that was being spearheaded by two players you called scum earlier in the day.
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btw, maybe bad meta here, I'm not sure, but its been on my mind off and on.

I don't think anyone still thinks puns is scum. I don't really, personally. Thinking about the han lynch a bit, the thing that probably leads me to scum nana the hardest is that, unless I'm entirely wrong on puns, it means for nana to be town it would be 5/5 town on his lynch.

I'm not sure I'm feeling that with the way he basically let himself die.
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The strangest thing about yesterday by far is the double splinter though. That is just weird as fuck.
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Han not switching to Nana implies WIFOM, I think
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Leo3L posted...

Refresh my memory MI, why not bus Dowolf and Stan?

This is like, the 5th time you've asked me this.

Turbo was a claimed vanilla, dowolf was an unknown. If Turbo turned out to be town and I moved a block / kill on him, it wouldn't be the end of the world. If dowolf turned out to be town & power, it would be a problem.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Bad enough to throw out your town read on me and join your number 1 scumspect MI and your number 2/3 scumspect VI?

You jumped to a lynch on a player you thought was town and that was being spearheaded by two players you called scum earlier in the day.

I admitted that my reads were VERY not strong and I needed to reread the whole game. That whole post that keeps getting thrown around, I admitted were extremely soft reads. I even backed down on MI because he pointed out that I wasn't right about some things in that post regarding him. I decided to revert to my previous gut on you because of the way you acted at the end of Day 4, yes.

I shouldn't have even made the post probably but I was struggling to provide content because I was struggling to fully comprehend everything that was going on (hence the reread).

red13n posted...

btw, maybe bad meta here, I'm not sure, but its been on my mind off and on.

I don't think anyone still thinks puns is scum. I don't really, personally. Thinking about the han lynch a bit, the thing that probably leads me to scum nana the hardest is that, unless I'm entirely wrong on puns, it means for nana to be town it would be 5/5 town on his lynch.

I'm not sure I'm feeling that with the way he basically let himself die.

Are you fucking kidding me
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I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4
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My Immortal posted...

Leo3L posted...

Refresh my memory MI, why not bus Dowolf and Stan?

This is like, the 5th time you've asked me this.

Turbo was a claimed vanilla, dowolf was an unknown. If Turbo turned out to be town and I moved a block / kill on him, it wouldn't be the end of the world. If dowolf turned out to be town & power, it would be a problem.

Did you think Puns was Town?
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Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)
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htaeD posted...

I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4

Alright, let's back the fuck up.

It's "unlikely" that 5/5 on Han's scum lynch are town, and it's more likely to you that 7/7 votes on FFD day 1 were town?

That's question 1. No one wants to address the fucking atrocious FFD lynch.
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Nanahara715 posted...

red13n posted...

btw, maybe bad meta here, I'm not sure, but its been on my mind off and on.

I don't think anyone still thinks puns is scum. I don't really, personally. Thinking about the han lynch a bit, the thing that probably leads me to scum nana the hardest is that, unless I'm entirely wrong on puns, it means for nana to be town it would be 5/5 town on his lynch.

I'm not sure I'm feeling that with the way he basically let himself die.

Are you fucking kidding me

I'm aware you said something similar earlier.
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Wonder if it was just Chris as sole scum who wanted me lynched
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Nanahara715 posted...

htaeD posted...

I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4

Alright, let's back the fuck up.

It's "unlikely" that 5/5 on Han's scum lynch are town, and it's more likely to you that 7/7 votes on FFD day 1 were town?

That's question 1. No one wants to address the fucking atrocious FFD lynch.

I read this as Red's post responding to me. Just pretend Red said this instead of Death.
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>.>
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red13n posted...

Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)

Puns
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I actually had typed out that I knew you said something similar earlier and then intentionally deleted it from the post just to see what your reaction would be.

That said, it is something crawling in my head(I've had a few thoughts rolling in my head all day, just not the time to post them, so sorry for being late on some things)
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Nanahara715 posted...

htaeD posted...

I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4

Alright, let's back the fuck up.

It's "unlikely" that 5/5 on Han's scum lynch are town, and it's more likely to you that 7/7 votes on FFD day 1 were town?

That's question 1. No one wants to address the fucking atrocious FFD lynch.

does it matter when the counterlynches were town and probably town?
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Leo3L posted...

red13n posted...

Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)

Puns

thanks. I knew there was something that really boxed puns into town for me that I didn't have off the top of my head.
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Leo3L posted...

red13n posted...

Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)

Puns

I think Chris was goading you to vote someone else too
and it worked
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VeryInsane posted...

My Immortal posted...

Leo3L posted...

Refresh my memory MI, why not bus Dowolf and Stan?

This is like, the 5th time you've asked me this.

Turbo was a claimed vanilla, dowolf was an unknown. If Turbo turned out to be town and I moved a block / kill on him, it wouldn't be the end of the world. If dowolf turned out to be town & power, it would be a problem.

Did you think Puns was Town?

Based on the FFD flip and EOD, I didn't.

But if I was wrong, it was low risk.
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htaeD posted...

Leo3L posted...

red13n posted...

Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)

Puns

I think Chris was goading you to vote someone else too
and it worked

Yeah, it did.
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[2] Nana: KBM, (Leo), (MI), puns
[2] KBM: Nana, Leo
[0] MI: (Leo), (Nana)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch! Day ends on Today at 9 PM (About 6.5 hours)
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red13n posted...

htaeD posted...

Leo3L posted...

red13n posted...

Also I know you guys are better about going through these topics than I am.

I know in my reread I caught on to a spot where chris was trying to goad me into attacking someone that was second to last on lynch(This was an old meta that used to be true in older b8 days, not true so much anymore). If someone could fetch who that was for me I'd be very grateful(I had this written on my old notepad that got blown up in a power failure the other day).

I'm actually running short on my time able to dedicate here(I'll be around, just not as able to dedicate myself to the topic)

Puns

I think Chris was goading you to vote someone else too
and it worked

Yeah, it did.

you didnt think to be wary of Chris?
I mean, you have seen how conniving he can be
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Death, we've been over this. I can humor you and rehash it again or you can turn your brain on and recall the things I've said on the subject(I've restated multiple times, I'm pretty sure I even said it once this morning as well)
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Can an archive hunter look at MI end of Day 1 and beginning of Day 2

Specifically for thoughts on Puns and reaction to Chris's vig shot
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red13n posted...

Death, we've been over this. I can humor you and rehash it again or you can turn your brain on and recall the things I've said on the subject(I've restated multiple times, I'm pretty sure I even said it once this morning as well)

I tend to forget what was already asked, my apologies
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I need addrerall or something to get through these early topics

I will say it's super obvious FFD was the high sparrow in retrospect
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I don't think that I gave much reaction to Chris' claim because I didn't want to give away that I knew he was telling the truth about the bus drive.
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Like I remember MI being high on puns as Town the entire game so him bussing him is weird
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My Immortal posted...

I don't think that I gave much reaction to Chris' claim because I didn't want to give away that I knew he was telling the truth about the bus drive.

Why is that, anyway?

Doesn't that set up the psychic for the slam dunk?

I know we've talked about this before but such is the nature of the CROSS EXAMINATION
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I still haven't heard any thoughts about Nana's borderline modkillable post ranting about Han hammering with an alt, and his motive to do so as scum.
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I thought it would be better to use my track first then claim and then use psychic.
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I didn't expect.this to become a 3 way lynch but it is making it interesting.

Kind of affirms my thoughts that ffd and dowolf are both scum tho

talking to FFD (once)

How could we trust you though

his reaction to the Moonboy claim

... That seems odd. You were worried enough to claim but not worried enough to actually claim?

I'm grumpy we aren't staying the course on dowolf

Hmm

reaction to Scare's 2nd vote

Reminder that last got game had a scum multivoter

reaction to people reacting dowolfs unvote/vote

Right? Let's lynch him

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thats for VeryInsane btw
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VeryInsane posted...

Can an archive hunter look at MI end of Day 1 and beginning of Day 2

Specifically for thoughts on Puns and reaction to Chris's vig shot

Not much about Puns, but says he's thinks FFD and Dowolf are scum. When Puns becomes the 2nd lynch when I break the tie, he laments "why aren't we lynching Dowolf?", then Dowolf splinters and MI says it looks bad, Han agrees, Shad defends me, Scare doublevotes, MI reminds everyone scum had a DV previously, Scare reminds everyone MI is scum and scene.
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Leo3L posted...

I still haven't heard any thoughts about Nana's borderline modkillable post ranting about Han hammering with an alt, and his motive to do so as scum.

You must be really bad at reading my posts because I did answer this too. It is something Nana absolutely would've done - as either alignment. Those emotions were real but Nana would be pissy about the perceived elitism either way. If they are scum/scum, there would've been a lot of fighting on the scum board after as well.

In fact, what was Nana's attitude towards Han at the start of the next day
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My Immortal posted...

I thought it would be better to use my track first then claim and then use psychic.

That just doesn't feel right to me since tracker is more effective the later the game goes, like roleblocker. Less scum to potentially carry out the night kill.
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Leo3L posted...

My Immortal posted...

I thought it would be better to use my track first then claim and then use psychic.

That just doesn't feel right to me since tracker is more effective the later the game goes, like roleblocker. Less scum to potentially carry out the night kill.

Hindsight's a bitch. What you're saying makes sense, but it isn't what I was thinking at the time.
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Leo3L posted...

I still haven't heard any thoughts about Nana's borderline modkillable post ranting about Han hammering with an alt, and his motive to do so as scum.

It's mainly cause I hate metaing this kind of stuff

One of these days scum is going to do something borderline modkillable and get away with it
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responses after Chris vigshot claim (no posts before that, since Chris started that talk early)

Oh. Well.

talks more about the votes than the vigshot

Leo protecting scum power there switches.

It's weird scare didn't move his first vote to turbo and tie it, I wonder if scum leo thought he did or was going to and that's what scared him into moving

*Switches = makes sense. I don't even know how I typed that wrong

Does that mean you're only going to shitpost today leo

KBM is actually a ffd vote I don't like.

I'm fairly confident she was in the game with me a year ish ago that ff6 refused to claim as town and this game she acted like this was something town would never do. Let me see if I can find that post

reacting to Leo's power breadcrumbs

I get what you're hinting but he didn't flip book mason so...?

Also I can't find that KBM post I'm remembering so I'll look tomorrow when I'm.not mobile

So Chris is millerbros something ffd would know that leo wouldn't?

Is there anyone else on the playerlist that could've fed leo that?

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Day 2 MI just says "the switches make sense."
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Just for the record, Scare was trying to tie the lynch D1 but screwed up. He was just a regular unrestricted double voter.
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I will say I do often get tempted as townpower to prove myself first and catch scum second
but thats only when I notice the game doesnt trust me
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htaeD posted...

Leo protecting scum power there switches.

It's weird scare didn't move his first vote to turbo and tie it, I wonder if scum leo thought he did or was going to and that's what scared him into moving

*Switches = makes sense. I don't even know how I typed that wrong

I FORGOT I DID THIS.

That wasn't a typo. That was me stating that the bus drive claim made sense in an innocuous way.
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