Poll of the Day > I really hope they find Bill Cosby not guilty.

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JazzMasterZero
06/15/17 11:47:29 AM
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Verdict should be coming sometime soon. The man is a legend and I think a lot of these accusers are embellishing what happened. Hopefully the jury finds him not guilty and he doesn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison.
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Erik_P
06/15/17 11:49:42 AM
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Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

Just because Cosby is a legend that doesn't mean he can't do bad things. Face it, he's a criminal fraud.
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InfernalFive
06/15/17 11:56:40 AM
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Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?
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green dragon
06/15/17 12:05:37 PM
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I hope he didn't commit the crimes and is found not guilty
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Erik_P
06/15/17 12:07:09 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?


Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.
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Blighboy
06/15/17 12:11:22 PM
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I hope they convict Zimmerman for Cosby's crimes.
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Solid Sonic
06/15/17 12:23:29 PM
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Erik_P posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?


Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.

Didn't the defense rest after five minutes and a single witness?
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Mead
06/15/17 12:27:01 PM
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He literally admitted in court that he would drug women so he could have sex with them.
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InfernalFive
06/15/17 12:30:40 PM
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Erik_P posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?


Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.

People can lie bro.
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Blighboy
06/15/17 12:32:46 PM
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Bill Cosby can lie too.
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Trancer Hunter
06/15/17 12:33:49 PM
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I'm sure of his guilt when it comes to raping women for many years.
however I think this case is going to have to be a Not-Guilty because of reasonable doubt. She was all over the place with her testimony.
But Bill Cosby will never bounce back on his career but he can live the next 20 some years of his life in luxury.
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Erik_P
06/15/17 12:34:28 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?


Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.

People can lie bro.


Keep deluding yourself he's innocent.
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helly
06/15/17 12:36:16 PM
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do you think michael jackson was guilty too

here's the thing with your argument of

Erik_P posted...
Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.


is that i can round up 40 people to all say what i want them to, too, if i promise them a lot of money for it.
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Umitencho
06/15/17 12:42:12 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

Just because Cosby is a legend that doesn't mean he can't do bad things. Face it, he's a criminal fraud.


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GameLord113
06/15/17 12:43:31 PM
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People are guilty until proven innocent in the eyes of Erik_P
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Erik_P
06/15/17 1:02:30 PM
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See, if it was like one or two women there would definitely be doubt about sweet old BillCosby doing something like this.

But it isn't 2 women. It's 40.

I repeat, 40 women all say pretty much the same thing about what he did to them.

The benefit of the doubt evaporated around victim number 10.
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DirtBasedSoap
06/15/17 1:03:30 PM
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i think the most telling thing about this whole bill cosby thing is the fact that as soon as the news came out, he was caught trying to flee to Mexico.
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adjl
06/15/17 1:06:05 PM
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Erik_P posted...
See, if it was like one or two women there would definitely be doubt about sweet old BillCosby doing something like this.

But it isn't 2 women. It's 40.

I repeat, 40 women all say pretty much the same thing about what he did to them.

The benefit of the doubt evaporated around victim number 10.


That doesn't mean much in celebrity cases, simply because they're so high-profile. People can absolutely see the case going on and decide they want to get in on some of that action, whether they were actually harmed or not. I quite agree that being a celebrity doesn't make him any more deserving of a not guilty verdict than anyone else in his position, but the straight numbers game you're trying to play here isn't as conclusive as you seem to think.
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SunWuKung420
06/15/17 1:15:05 PM
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Plot twist. Erik's "girlfriend's" child, Cosby is the father.
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knivesX2004
06/15/17 1:15:20 PM
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I love how the only argument against Cosby is from his fans saying "They are paying the women to lie".
Ok, sure they're paying 40 women to say he raped them.
Because once you say you've been raped (even if you lie, as has happened in few cases in the past) life goes on normally right?
For fuck's sake...
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deoxxys
06/15/17 1:22:16 PM
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innocent til proven guilty
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TyVulpine
06/15/17 1:25:59 PM
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Erik_P posted...
See, if it was like one or two women there would definitely be doubt about sweet old BillCosby doing something like this.

But it isn't 2 women. It's 40.

I repeat, 40 women all say pretty much the same thing about what he did to them.

The benefit of the doubt evaporated around victim number 10.

Everyone knows OJ killed two people but the prosecution failed to prove it. It's never a sure thing until the verdict is read. (And as of right now, the jury is deadlocked on the Cosby verdict)
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Jen0125
06/15/17 1:26:39 PM
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i hope they review the evidence presented and come to a conclusion they find acceptable for what they heard.
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adjl
06/15/17 1:41:10 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
i hope they review the evidence presented and come to a conclusion they find acceptable for what they heard.


I'll take that a step further and hope that whatever conclusion they can reach from the evidence presented is consistent with the truth, thereby ensuring that justice is done and either a dangerous person is locked up or an innocent person is not.
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rjsilverthorn
06/15/17 2:02:19 PM
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adjl posted...
Jen0125 posted...
i hope they review the evidence presented and come to a conclusion they find acceptable for what they heard.


I'll take that a step further and hope that whatever conclusion they can reach from the evidence presented is consistent with the truth, thereby ensuring that justice is done and either a dangerous person is locked up or an innocent person is not.


Apparently the jury came back deadlocked http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/us/bill-cosby-trial-verdict/index.html


Regardless of the outcome it is highly unlikely he'll do jail time considering he'll be 80 this July and is apparently largely blind.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/15/17 2:04:07 PM
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Mead posted...
He literally admitted in court that he would drug women so he could have sex with them.

Yeah, that's basically where any defence ends.
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Lil69Leo
06/15/17 2:43:09 PM
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Cosby literally admitted to doing exactly what they accused him of in a deposition.

His guilt is pretty clear.
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OhhhJa
06/15/17 2:47:38 PM
#29:


InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Erik_P posted...
Face it, he's a criminal fraud.

How would you know?


Because 40 fucking women all said the exact same thing.

People can lie bro.

Not women though you sexist beast
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OhhhJa
06/15/17 2:52:09 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Bill Cosby can lie too.

Not buying it. He made me laugh at least 5 times
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Jiggy101011
06/15/17 2:53:32 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
i hope they review the evidence presented and come to a conclusion they find acceptable for what they heard.


This is why people like Erik and others in this thread shouldn't be picked for jury duty. You have to go in there and find someone guilty or not based on the evidence provided, not what the news or other forms of media you have read prior. Do we think Cosby raped women? I would say 95% of people think he did it, but the evidence has to prove that he did and if it doesn't then he goes free.
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helly
06/15/17 3:03:21 PM
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i like how erik just ignores my post just destroying his argument
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Erik_P
06/15/17 3:08:29 PM
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helly posted...
i like how erik just ignores my post just destroying his argument


You tried claiming everyone was paid off to lie. The only thing you destroyed is your credibility.
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helly
06/15/17 3:10:38 PM
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not once did i claim that

i said it's possible, because being devils advocate is fun.

cosby is guilty as shit, there's no doubt about that
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Erik_P
06/15/17 3:13:59 PM
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helly posted...
not once did i claim that

i said it's possible, because being devils advocate is fun.

cosby is guilty as shit, there's no doubt about that


So you said I ignored your post because blah blah blah and when I address it you backtrack on what you said?

Why'd you even waste your time saying anything?
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Kyuubi4269
06/15/17 3:15:50 PM
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Erik_P posted...
helly posted...
i like how erik just ignores my post just destroying his argument


You tried claiming everyone was paid off to lie. The only thing you destroyed is your credibility.

When someone's a massive celebrity, it's not unreasonable to suspect a high value appeal to sensationalism.
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knivesX2004
06/15/17 3:17:30 PM
#37:


helly posted...
i like how erik just ignores my post just destroying his argument

You ignored mine doing the same to yours ;)
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helly
06/15/17 3:18:48 PM
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Erik_P posted...
So you said I ignored your post because blah blah blah and when I address it you backtrack on what you said?

Why'd you even waste your time saying anything?

i never backtracked either

you need to stop assuming things that aren't there

chill out dude

knivesX2004 posted...
helly posted...
i like how erik just ignores my post just destroying his argument

You ignored mine doing the same to yours ;)

no, i ignored yours because it was stupid and didn't have anything to do with what i said
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knivesX2004
06/15/17 4:19:08 PM
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helly posted...
no, i ignored yours because it was stupid

No it's not.
helly posted...
and didn't have anything to do with what i said

Yes it did.
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Melon_Master
06/15/17 4:26:27 PM
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green dragon posted...
I hope he didn't commit the crimes and is found not guilty

And I wish I was a little bit taller.. I also wish I was a baller. :P
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ForteEXE3850
06/15/17 4:29:40 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

I mean, do you also believe that everyone that come out and said they slept with Bill Clinton after Monica Lewinsky said she did really did it?

Regardless, the issue is I don't support the conviction of someone based on testimony alone.
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Dikitain
06/15/17 4:44:46 PM
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ForteEXE3850 posted...
Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

I mean, do you also believe that everyone that come out and said they slept with Bill Clinton after Monica Lewinsky said she did really did it?

Regardless, the issue is I don't support the conviction of someone based on testimony alone.

Or that Bill Clinton raped a woman?

I literally read articles that said something to the effect of "Yea, Bill Clinton raped you, BUT TRUMP SAID HE LIKED GRABBING PRIVATES, HE IS MUCH WORSE!!!!"
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MICHALECOLE
06/15/17 4:46:25 PM
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Dikitain posted...
ForteEXE3850 posted...
Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

I mean, do you also believe that everyone that come out and said they slept with Bill Clinton after Monica Lewinsky said she did really did it?

Regardless, the issue is I don't support the conviction of someone based on testimony alone.

Or that Bill Clinton raped a woman?

I literally read articles that said something to the effect of "Yea, Bill Clinton raped you, BUT TRUMP SAID HE LIKED GRABBING PRIVATES, HE IS MUCH WORSE!!!!"

Those sound like very interesting articles! I'd love to read one, can you post a couple? They sound hilarious ^_^
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helIy
06/15/17 4:52:40 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
helly posted...
no, i ignored yours because it was stupid

No it's not.
helly posted...
and didn't have anything to do with what i said

Yes it did.

yes it was, and no it didn't

redirect your comment to adjl, as he was the one who actually thought to argue the point
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BBalla10
06/15/17 5:05:00 PM
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Cause for some reason 60 women are lying, right?
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OhhhJa
06/15/17 5:19:48 PM
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I prefer to fall in slow Cosby with a girl
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Smarkil
06/15/17 5:21:32 PM
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BBalla10 posted...
Cause for some reason 60 women are lying, right?


When there's a potential for a payout, yes. Maybe not likely, but that's why we have a court system after all.
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streamofthesky
06/15/17 5:22:18 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
I love how the only argument against Cosby is from his fans saying "They are paying the women to lie".
Ok, sure they're paying 40 women to say he raped them.
Because once you say you've been raped (even if you lie, as has happened in few cases in the past) life goes on normally right?
For fuck's sake...

Considering it's virtually unheard of to imprison people for making false rape claims or even try them in court, I don't see why it wouldn't go on normally after lying about it.

Lil69Leo posted...
Cosby literally admitted to doing exactly what they accused him of in a deposition.

His guilt is pretty clear.

People do give false confessions for various reasons quite often. I mean, I think he probably did it between the confession and the sheer number of claims. But a bunch of people claiming it and him saying one time that he did isn't enough evidence on its own to convict someone. Well, perhaps if he were poor it would be. Those who can afford decent lawyers generally get the benefit of the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.
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Aaantlion
06/15/17 5:40:16 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.

Just because Cosby is a legend that doesn't mean he can't do bad things. Face it, he's a criminal fraud.


Erik once again going well and above libel. First, he's not even being charged with fraud and I'm not sure you even know what that means. Second, he's not a criminal because he hasn't been convicted of anything and therefore is currently innocent in the eyes of the law. Finally, I'm not going to touch on the silly number argument because each incident should be evaluated separately and a number of claims isn't proof in itself. However, the timing of the claims suggests at least some opportunism may be involved.

streamofthesky posted...
knivesX2004 posted...
I love how the only argument against Cosby is from his fans saying "They are paying the women to lie".
Ok, sure they're paying 40 women to say he raped them.
Because once you say you've been raped (even if you lie, as has happened in few cases in the past) life goes on normally right?
For fuck's sake...

Considering it's virtually unheard of to imprison people for making false rape claims or even try them in court, I don't see why it wouldn't go on normally after lying about it.

Lil69Leo posted...
Cosby literally admitted to doing exactly what they accused him of in a deposition.

His guilt is pretty clear.

People do give false confessions for various reasons quite often. I mean, I think he probably did it between the confession and the sheer number of claims. But a bunch of people claiming it and him saying one time that he did isn't enough evidence on its own to convict someone. Well, perhaps if he were poor it would be. Those who can afford decent lawyers generally get the benefit of the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.


Pretty much both of these, although some of Cosby's statements have been a little suspect. Honestly, he'd do himself a favor by not talking to the press without consulting his lawyer.
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old_school227
06/15/17 6:02:18 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Yes, 40 people all lied about being raped.


A man was murdered in a bar in 2005, all 70 witnesses claimed they were in the bathroom at the time of the stabbing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Robert_McCartney
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Erik_P
06/15/17 6:14:51 PM
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When I say he's a criminal fraud I mean he's a criminal and a fraud. He's a fraud because he's not a sweet innocent guy like he led everyone to believe for 30 years.

But it's funny you're accusing me of libel when you got warned for accusing me of being the type to go on a shooting spree. Republicans are the party of projection after all.

You would think you would've learned after your warn but I shouldn't be surprised considering you're a Trump supporter.
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