Poll of the Day > My lawyer made a pretty ballsy move yesterday...

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GreenTreeClub 05/24/17 5:46:42 PM #1:	I got a traffic ticket more than a month back for running a flashing red light late at night (I thought it was yellow, really tired). Anyways, I took it to a Ticket Clinic and they heard the case yesterday. Today I looked up the case and my lawyer entered NOT GUILTY, when I was definitely guilty. I was expecting him to plead NOLO CONTEDNRE. Obviously, that didn't work, but I got a verdict of WITHHOLD ADJUDICATION, which means I don't get any points on my license, no traffic school, no conviction, but I still need to pay court costs, $141 plus the $80 I gave ticket clinic. Its basically what my ticket would have costs with traffic school, but I skipped out on traffic school. <cite>GreenTreeClub posted [p:879740264] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I got a traffic ticket more than a month back for running a flashing red light late at night (I thought it was yellow, really tired). Anyways, I took it to a Ticket Clinic and they heard the case yesterday. Today I looked up the case and my lawyer entered NOT GUILTY, when I was definitely guilty. I was expecting him to plead NOLO CONTEDNRE. Obviously, that didn't work, but I got a verdict of WITHHOLD ADJUDICATION, which means I don't get any points on my license, no traffic school, no conviction, but I still need to pay court costs, $141 plus the $80 I gave ticket clinic. Its basically what my ticket would have costs with traffic school, but I skipped out on traffic school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon504 05/24/17 5:52:43 PM #2:	I hate those lights so much. Call 'em anxiety lights. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/dragon504 http://followmy.tv/u/dragon504/time_wasted <cite>dragon504 posted [p:879740615] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I hate those lights so much. Call 'em anxiety lights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zebatov 05/24/17 6:00:26 PM #4:	Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right? <cite>zebatov posted [p:879741036] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zebatov 05/24/17 6:29:08 PM #6:	@Zangulus You could try it... It's worked here, with my roommate. If their guns aren't calibrated, how can they accurately say how fast you were going? It's one of those lazy things everyone has at their job they just don't do when they get on shift, that they really should. I'm in Alberta. We have the most lax laws for speeding because we have photo radar here. It wasn't more than double, either. Slightly under. But like I said, they don't care too much about speeding because of the cameras, and I slowed down before he even had his lights on because I saw him after I took off at the light. He did me a favour when he wrote me down as doing only 40 over, so I didn't have to go to court and explain to a judge why I should be allowed to keep my vehicle that's registered and insured in another province. I think 60 is around 40, and 115 is around 70-75. I was clipping for sure, but it was four lanes of straight freedom... for like eight seconds. 10-40 over is a gradually increasing fine, from $115-$397ish. 50, like I said before, is over $500 and a date with a judge. I'll probably be more careful in the future. They just use weird cars here. I've seen anywhere from canary-yellow Toyota Tacomas, to rusted-out older Honda CR-Vs pulling people over. <cite>zebatov posted [p:879742746] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>@Zangulus You could try it... It's worked here, with my roommate. If their guns aren't calibrated, how can they accurately say how fast you were going? It's one of those lazy things everyone has at their job they just don't do when they get on shift, that they really should. I'm in Alberta. We have the most lax laws for speeding because we have photo radar here. It wasn't more than double, either. Slightly under. But like I said, they don't care too much about speeding because of the cameras, and I slowed down before he even had his lights on because I saw him after I took off at the light. He did me a favour when he wrote me down as doing only 40 over, so I didn't have to go to court and explain to a judge why I should be allowed to keep my vehicle that's registered and insured in another province. I think 60 is around 40, and 115 is around 70-75. I was clipping for sure, but it was four lanes of straight freedom... for like eight seconds. 10-40 over is a gradually increasing fine, from $115-$397ish. 50, like I said before, is over $500 and a date with a judge. I'll probably be more careful in the future. They just use weird cars here. I've seen anywhere from canary-yellow Toyota Tacomas, to rusted-out older Honda CR-Vs pulling people over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 05/24/17 6:36:13 PM #7:	Zangulus posted... 2) Attend an online traffic school. Two 8 hour courses. $450. Oh that sucks. I did an online traffic school several months back for a speeding ticket in California. It was only $30 and was little more than a simple online quiz that I could do in one sitting. --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:879743171] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>2) Attend an online traffic school. Two 8 hour courses. $450. </quote> Oh that sucks. I did an online traffic school several months back for a speeding ticket in California. It was only $30 and was little more than a simple online quiz that I could do in one sitting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 05/24/17 6:48:12 PM #8:	I haven't been pulled over in years. Knock on wood. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:879743872] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I haven't been pulled over in years. Knock on wood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 05/24/17 6:55:11 PM #9:	I hope I never get a ticket. Ugh... Such a painful waste of money. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:879744265] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get a ticket. Ugh... Such a painful waste of money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 05/24/17 7:06:22 PM #10:	zebatov posted... Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right? That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ. --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. <cite>RedPixel posted [p:879744900] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right?</quote> That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenTreeClub 05/24/17 10:18:31 PM #11:	I live in Florida so I guess our tickets aren't as expensive. it also helps when the officer stops you to not admit to anything when they ask you. Just say "I don't recall". That might have helped me in court. <cite>GreenTreeClub posted [p:879756120] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I live in Florida so I guess our tickets aren't as expensive. it also helps when the officer stops you to not admit to anything when they ask you. Just say "I don't recall". That might have helped me in court.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/24/17 10:36:33 PM #12:	the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light? --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879757187] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 05/24/17 10:38:04 PM #13:	helIy posted... the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light? It's the same as a stop sign. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:879757253] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light?</quote> It's the same as a stop sign.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon504 05/24/17 10:38:29 PM #14:	helIy posted... the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light? I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/dragon504 http://followmy.tv/u/dragon504/time_wasted <cite>dragon504 posted [p:879757276] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>the fuck is a blinking red light what is that, just a turn the fuck around light?</quote> I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkynyrdRocker 05/24/17 10:41:54 PM #15:	dragon504 posted... I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign. Sometimes they're set like that. The one I'm thinking of I think they do it because it would be easy to not notice a stop sign on the side. Although there is also a stop sign there, I believe. <cite>SkynyrdRocker posted [p:879757459] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>dragon504 posted...</cite> <quote>I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign. </quote> Sometimes they're set like that. The one I'm thinking of I think they do it because it would be easy to not notice a stop sign on the side. Although there is also a stop sign there, I believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 05/24/17 10:43:37 PM #16:	RedPixel posted... zebatov posted... Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right? That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ. He said he didn't even use it, he just watched his speedo lol. It wasn't a populated area or anything. In the city, they have really long, wide, straight roads with ultra-low speed limits. Also, he was driving a non-standard police ghost unit (Silver Avenger) and I thought it was just a random guy wanting to pull. I have a 2001 QX4, so it's not especially fast. I don't know why he waited so long to flick his lights on. I guess for the extra money. <cite>zebatov posted [p:879757550] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedPixel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right?</quote> That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ.</quote> He said he didn't even use it, he just watched his speedo lol. It wasn't a populated area or anything. In the city, they have really long, wide, straight roads with ultra-low speed limits. Also, he was driving a non-standard police ghost unit (Silver Avenger) and I thought it was just a random guy wanting to pull. I have a 2001 QX4, so it's not especially fast. I don't know why he waited so long to flick his lights on. I guess for the extra money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 05/24/17 11:10:05 PM #17:	zebatov posted... RedPixel posted... zebatov posted... Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right? That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ. He said he didn't even use it, he just watched his speedo lol. It wasn't a populated area or anything. In the city, they have really long, wide, straight roads with ultra-low speed limits. Also, he was driving a non-standard police ghost unit (Silver Avenger) and I thought it was just a random guy wanting to pull. I have a 2001 QX4, so it's not especially fast. I don't know why he waited so long to flick his lights on. I guess for the extra money. What a worthless cop. People like you shouldn't drive. I notice you mentioned 'province', are you an Albertan? That's the kind of shit we see here. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:879758970] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedPixel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right?</quote> That's really fucking reckless, to be honest. Asking police officers when they've last calibrated their devices might fly for 20 over, but 55 over... Christ.</quote> He said he didn't even use it, he just watched his speedo lol. It wasn't a populated area or anything. In the city, they have really long, wide, straight roads with ultra-low speed limits. Also, he was driving a non-standard police ghost unit (Silver Avenger) and I thought it was just a random guy wanting to pull. I have a 2001 QX4, so it's not especially fast. I don't know why he waited so long to flick his lights on. I guess for the extra money.</quote> What a worthless cop. People like you shouldn't drive. I notice you mentioned 'province', are you an Albertan? That's the kind of shit we see here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/24/17 11:44:03 PM #18:	It's actually pretty common practice. The courts usually don't bother fighting something this small when a lawyer shows up and, functionally speaking, you're being punished in an effect anyway. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879760790] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>It's actually pretty common practice. The courts usually don't bother fighting something this small when a lawyer shows up and, functionally speaking, you're being punished in an effect anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/25/17 4:04:51 PM #19:	SkynyrdRocker posted... dragon504 posted... I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign. Sometimes they're set like that. The one I'm thinking of I think they do it because it would be easy to not notice a stop sign on the side. Although there is also a stop sign there, I believe. oh. around here, we just have signs about a 100 feet before a stop sign...saying there's a stop sign up ahead. it's really...unnecessary, because it's rarely on a hilly road. you can see BOTH signs at once. it's literally just a sign telling you there's going to be a stop sign.. a pre-stop stop sign. --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879798249] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>SkynyrdRocker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dragon504 posted...</cite> <quote>I think blinking red lights only happens when there's something wrong with the light system and I think they're supposed to be treated like a stop sign. </quote> Sometimes they're set like that. The one I'm thinking of I think they do it because it would be easy to not notice a stop sign on the side. Although there is also a stop sign there, I believe.</quote> oh. around here, we just have signs about a 100 feet before a stop sign...saying there's a stop sign up ahead. it's really...unnecessary, because it's rarely on a hilly road. you can see BOTH signs at once. it's literally just a sign telling you there's going to be a stop sign.. a pre-stop stop sign.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 05/25/17 4:29:55 PM #20:	Zangulus posted... My last ticket was for 74 in a 55. $395 fine. I had 3 choices. 1) Pay the fine. Receive 2 points off my license. 2) Attend an online traffic school. Two 8 hour courses. $450. The ticket is vacated and I lose no points. 3) Contest it in court. I ended up paying the fine because it was cheaper, and my insurance company forgave the ticket. They said they'd do so every 3 years. That was like 6 years ago. 4) Resist arrest and pay with your blood --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:879799631] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>My last ticket was for 74 in a 55. $395 fine. I had 3 choices. 1) Pay the fine. Receive 2 points off my license. 2) Attend an online traffic school. Two 8 hour courses. $450. The ticket is vacated and I lose no points. 3) Contest it in court. I ended up paying the fine because it was cheaper, and my insurance company forgave the ticket. They said they'd do so every 3 years. That was like 6 years ago.</quote> 4) Resist arrest and pay with your blood</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 05/25/17 4:41:27 PM #21:	zebatov posted... Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right? In NY they are so damn thorough that they actually require the make, model, and inspection date of the radar gun on the ticket before it will even print out. And a 115 in a 60 would pretty much be an instant suspension (not to mention a huge fine)... --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:879800264] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit your tickets are expensive. I was doing 115 in a 60, and the cop ended up writing down 100, because I was compliant. 50 over in my province is an automatic court date and a $500+ fine. What I got was $397. I'll have to fight it, because I can't afford to pay that right now, and don't want it to increase by 30%. You guys know to ask them if they've done their inspection on their radar guns, right?</quote> In NY they are so damn thorough that they actually require the make, model, and inspection date of the radar gun on the ticket before it will even print out. And a 115 in a 60 would pretty much be an instant suspension (not to mention a huge fine)...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dynalo 05/25/17 4:57:02 PM #22:	Everyone should know that the "115 in a 60 zone" is in km/h, since he's Canadian. So that's more like going 70 in a 40 zone for you Americans. Still horrible, but not as insane as going 115mph...pretty much anywhere besides a race track. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:879801172] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Everyone should know that the "115 in a 60 zone" is in km/h, since he's Canadian. So that's more like going 70 in a 40 zone for you Americans. Still horrible, but not as insane as going 115mph...pretty much anywhere besides a race track.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 05/25/17 5:02:17 PM #23:	Why would you hire a lawyer if you blatantly knew you fucked up? --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:879801476] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Why would you hire a lawyer if you blatantly knew you fucked up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/25/17 5:07:56 PM #24:	helIy posted... around here, we just have signs about a 100 feet before a stop sign...saying there's a stop sign up ahead. it's really...unnecessary, because it's rarely on a hilly road. you can see BOTH signs at once. it's literally just a sign telling you there's going to be a stop sign.. a pre-stop stop sign. proof: --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879801802] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>around here, we just have signs about a 100 feet before a stop sign...saying there's a stop sign up ahead. it's really...unnecessary, because it's rarely on a hilly road. you can see BOTH signs at once. it's literally just a sign telling you there's going to be a stop sign.. a pre-stop stop sign.</quote> proof: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenTreeClub 05/25/17 10:13:58 PM #25:	Krow_Incarnate posted... Why would you hire a lawyer if you blatantly knew you fucked up? Because traffic tickets are unjust and unnecessary if there's no property damage or bodily injury. Cops should be useful for something <cite>GreenTreeClub posted [p:879819914] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krow_Incarnate posted...</cite> <quote>Why would you hire a lawyer if you blatantly knew you fucked up?</quote> Because traffic tickets are unjust and unnecessary if there's no property damage or bodily injury. Cops should be useful for something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/25/17 10:16:57 PM #26:	traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879820095] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenTreeClub 05/25/17 10:28:14 PM #27:	helIy posted... traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were I wasn't being reckless, it was 2 AM or later and the coast was clear <cite>GreenTreeClub posted [p:879820800] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were</quote> I wasn't being reckless, it was 2 AM or later and the coast was clear</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 05/25/17 10:35:57 PM #28:	It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:879821294] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/25/17 10:39:34 PM #29:	Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:879821523] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 05/25/17 10:42:17 PM #30:	Cacciato posted... Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced. I know. They tell me that all the time. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:879821747] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced.</quote> I know. They tell me that all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/25/17 10:47:47 PM #31:	GreenTreeClub posted... helIy posted... traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were I wasn't being reckless, it was 2 AM or later and the coast was clear and? that doesn't suddenly mean you can break the fucking law, dude --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879822069] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenTreeClub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>traffic tickets aren't unjust if you're actively being reckless and you were</quote> I wasn't being reckless, it was 2 AM or later and the coast was clear</quote> and? that doesn't suddenly mean you can break the fucking law, dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenTreeClub 05/25/17 10:59:17 PM #32:	Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? Because the lawyer entered a Not Guilty plea instead of Nolo Contendre. Or maybe you are right, and pleading not guilty with the hopes of getting a deal is just what they always do? Or perhaps, since I never admitted to any guilt when I was stopped, they reviewed the tape and saw that so the judge was forced to make a deal with the lawyer. I honestly would like to ask a lawyer about this. helIy posted... that doesn't suddenly mean you can break the fucking law, dude Yeah, but just because a law exists doesn't make it just. Cops are just there to generate revenue for the government and not to help people. <cite>GreenTreeClub posted [p:879822761] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> Because the lawyer entered a Not Guilty plea instead of Nolo Contendre. Or maybe you are right, and pleading not guilty with the hopes of getting a deal is just what they always do? Or perhaps, since I never admitted to any guilt when I was stopped, they reviewed the tape and saw that so the judge was forced to make a deal with the lawyer. I honestly would like to ask a lawyer about this. <cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>that doesn't suddenly mean you can break the fucking law, dude</quote> Yeah, but just because a law exists doesn't make it just. Cops are just there to generate revenue for the government and not to help people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/25/17 11:01:16 PM #33:	GreenTreeClub posted... Cops are just there to generate revenue for the government and not to help people. Oh for fuck's sake <cite>Cacciato posted [p:879822897] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenTreeClub posted...</cite> <quote>Cops are just there to generate revenue for the government and not to help people.</quote> Oh for fuck's sake</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 05/25/17 11:04:13 PM #34:	Erik_P posted... Cacciato posted... Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced. I know. They tell me that all the time. Well, good to know your parents are at least decent. I would be pretty appalled if they were actually proud of you. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:879823063] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> Your parents hate you and are disgusted with themselves for what they produced.</quote> I know. They tell me that all the time.</quote> Well, good to know your parents are at least decent. I would be pretty appalled if they were actually proud of you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrPrimemaster 05/25/17 11:08:10 PM #35:	Around here after a certain time (like 3am) the lights change to flashing red one way and flashing yellow the other way. The yellow way can pass through while the red way has to stop. Its so people don't have to stop at pointless intersections that late at night. --- Metroids Suck <cite>DrPrimemaster posted [p:879823296] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Around here after a certain time (like 3am) the lights change to flashing red one way and flashing yellow the other way. The yellow way can pass through while the red way has to stop. Its so people don't have to stop at pointless intersections that late at night.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 05/26/17 8:21:22 AM #36:	>115 MPH >Not being reckless --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:879839810] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>>115 MPH >Not being reckless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/26/17 8:26:21 AM #37:	Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? oh oh, I was wondering when I'd get to say this to you again different places do different things. around here people actually notice stop signs and don't need a blinking red light to tell them to do a rolling stop turn with no signal like they probably do wherever you live but you should keep being an angry upset uneducated little teensy weeny yellow polka dot bikini man child, it's really working for you --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879839981] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote> It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> oh oh, I was wondering when I'd get to say this to you again different places do different things. around here people actually notice stop signs and don't need a blinking red light to tell them to do a rolling stop turn with no signal like they probably do wherever you live but you should keep being an angry upset uneducated little teensy weeny yellow polka dot bikini man child, it's really working for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 05/26/17 8:33:53 AM #38:	Blinking reds aren't just stop signs, though. Technically, they're supposed to be treated as a four-way stop. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:879840215] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Blinking reds aren't just stop signs, though. Technically, they're supposed to be treated as a four-way stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/26/17 8:44:47 AM #39:	Krow_Incarnate posted... >115 MPH >Not being reckless Kilometres, not miles. Silly Americans. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:879840502] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krow_Incarnate posted...</cite> <quote>>115 MPH >Not being reckless</quote> Kilometres, not miles. Silly Americans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 05/26/17 8:54:00 AM #40:	Meh, they looked like American numbers. Either way, he's going 70 in what's roughly a 40-ish zone. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:879840815] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>Meh, they looked like American numbers. Either way, he's going 70 in what's roughly a 40-ish zone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 05/26/17 9:02:34 AM #41:	helIy posted... Erik_P posted... It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house? oh oh, I was wondering when I'd get to say this to you again different places do different things. around here people actually notice stop signs and don't need a blinking red light to tell them to do a rolling stop turn with no signal like they probably do wherever you live but you should keep being an angry upset uneducated little teensy weeny yellow polka dot bikini man child, it's really working for you Others have pointed out when flashing red lights occur, but sure, ignore those posts. Since you decided to insult me instead of answering whether or not you leave your house, I'm gonna go with yes, you never leave your house. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:879841074] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote> It's ballsy for a lawyer to do his fucking job? And how the fuck has helly never seen a blinking red light before? Does he ever leave his house?</quote> oh oh, I was wondering when I'd get to say this to you again different places do different things. around here people actually notice stop signs and don't need a blinking red light to tell them to do a rolling stop turn with no signal like they probably do wherever you live but you should keep being an angry upset uneducated little teensy weeny yellow polka dot bikini man child, it's really working for you</quote> Others have pointed out when flashing red lights occur, but sure, ignore those posts. Since you decided to insult me instead of answering whether or not you leave your house, I'm gonna go with yes, you never leave your house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/26/17 9:03:45 AM #42:	I miss when Erik was in purgatory <cite>Cacciato posted [p:879841112] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I miss when Erik was in purgatory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 05/26/17 9:10:13 AM #43:	Cacciato posted... I miss when Erik was in purgatory Maybe helly should leave his house so he can get a clue for a change. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:879841330] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>I miss when Erik was in purgatory</quote> Maybe helly should leave his house so he can get a clue for a change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/26/17 9:10:49 AM #44:	I think him being in purgatory just condensed his toxicity --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879841354] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote>I think him being in purgatory just condensed his toxicity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renraku_San 05/26/17 1:41:28 PM #45:	GreenTreeClub posted... I got a traffic ticket more than a month back for running a flashing red light late at night (I thought it was yellow, really tired). Anyways, I took it to a Ticket Clinic and they heard the case yesterday. Today I looked up the case and my lawyer entered NOT GUILTY, when I was definitely guilty. I was expecting him to plead NOLO CONTEDNRE. Obviously, that didn't work, but I got a verdict of WITHHOLD ADJUDICATION, which means I don't get any points on my license, no traffic school, no conviction, but I still need to pay court costs, $141 plus the $80 I gave ticket clinic. Its basically what my ticket would have costs with traffic school, but I skipped out on traffic school. I am glad to hear that your TRAFFIC TICKET kinda WORKED OUT for you thanks to your LAWYER. --- I worship Jesus Christ and am 100% proud to be Christian! I read the Bible every day, you should too! <cite>Renraku_San posted [p:879854899] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenTreeClub posted...</cite> <quote>I got a traffic ticket more than a month back for running a flashing red light late at night (I thought it was yellow, really tired). Anyways, I took it to a Ticket Clinic and they heard the case yesterday. Today I looked up the case and my lawyer entered NOT GUILTY, when I was definitely guilty. I was expecting him to plead NOLO CONTEDNRE. Obviously, that didn't work, but I got a verdict of WITHHOLD ADJUDICATION, which means I don't get any points on my license, no traffic school, no conviction, but I still need to pay court costs, $141 plus the $80 I gave ticket clinic. Its basically what my ticket would have costs with traffic school, but I skipped out on traffic school.</quote> I am glad to hear that your TRAFFIC TICKET kinda WORKED OUT for you thanks to your LAWYER.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkynyrdRocker 05/26/17 2:19:57 PM #46:	Cacciato posted... I miss when Erik was in purgatory <cite>SkynyrdRocker posted [p:879856899] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>I miss when Erik was in purgatory</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 05/26/17 2:35:23 PM #47:	helIy posted... I think him being in purgatory just condensed his toxicity I liked the idea of working together to get him to go so far off the reservation that he gets banned. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:879857753] in My lawyer ... [t:75382671]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>I think him being in purgatory just condensed his toxicity</quote> I liked the idea of working together to get him to go so far off the reservation that he gets banned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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