Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Give Me A Quest!

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Oh the other topic hit 500 let's go with this title
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http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Hearthstone

(I will put my info here one of these days)

I couldn't think of anything cause tbqh the meta actually seems pretty balanced! Warrior is the best and I guess Warlock is gonna end up as the worst but hey every class is viable to some degree
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Does Questing Adventurer say anything different if you play a quest when he's on the board?

Seems like a wasted opportunity if he doesn't.
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Purify Priest is listed in tier 2 in the tempo storm meta snapshot. Where it belongs.
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haven't even checked the meta snapshot. I have a feeling I'm in for a shock.

I'll wait for actual data from Vicious Syndicate rather than the suppositions of Tempo Storm employees. The first report should be out tomorrow. From the beta stats it looks like silence Priest is still tier 3 (but so is quest Rogue):

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/data-reaper-live-beta/
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I actually feel the other way around. "Hard data" is only useful if you're assuming everyone is always making the optimal plays, or at least making mistakes of equal magnitude on all decks. Neither of those assumptions seems safe to me, even if you restrict the data you're looking at to players above a certain ranking.
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The data that comes from data reaper is based on user-tracked games across all ranks, so you can probably assume an average amount of misplays. It's more relevant to the average ladder player than pro win percentages. I feel like the Tempostorm meta snapshot is a better look at what you can expect to run into on ladder, I just don't trust it for actual matchup rankings at all anymore.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

The data that comes from data reaper is based on user-tracked games across all ranks, so you can probably assume an average amount of misplays. It's more relevant to the average ladder player than pro win percentages. I feel like the Tempostorm meta snapshot is a better look at what you can expect to run into on ladder, I just don't trust it for actual matchup rankings at all anymore.

My point was more that certain decks are more likely to feature misplays than others. It's a lot easier to screw up a Control Priest than a Pirate Warrior, for instance. Meanwhile, the Tempostorm numbers are based more on "okay, if both players play perfectly, what happens?" That's more interesting to me.
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The Tempostorm site looks nicer, so I use that one.
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i will not deny my attraction to purdy things.
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dowolf posted...

i will not deny my attraction to purdy things.

Are you the type to go for gold cards in this game?
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It's not so much that quest rogue is OP as it is that the game is determined in their opening hand and if they get the right draw, you're done, nothing you can do about it.

It's not fun.
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If you face me and im playing rogue there is a 100% chance I have patches in my opening hand.
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I mean, I don't craft golds.

But I generally keep standard-legal golds. There's no advantage to dusting them immediately vs. when they rotate, when you think about it.
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im thinking about cutting mimic pod from rogue. A bad mimic pod essentially auto loses you the game.
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Ugh. Those arena games where you don't see any of the 16 cards in your deck under three mana in the mulligan or first six draws and get wrecked by a Vicious Fledgling.
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More like

that game in arena where you're ahead and wining, but the other guy discovers tirion as a mage and kills you. >.>
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> Arena
> Prince Malzahar
> Draw a Kazakus turn 4
> Only duplicate is Firelands Portal

twenty turns later

> Kazakus is still in hand
> opponent is at 5 life
> ...scoop
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KokoroAkechi posted...

that game in arena where you're ahead and wining, but the other guy discovers tirion as a mage and kills you. >.>

...I'll bite: off of what?
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dowolf posted...

KokoroAkechi posted...

that game in arena where you're ahead and wining, but the other guy discovers tirion as a mage and kills you. >.>

...I'll bite: off of what?

isn't there a new neutral turtle that discovers a taunt minion? maybe that
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That only gets Taunts of your class. It's why it's being run in a lot of Paladin decks. It has a very high probability of getting Tirion or Wickerflame a lot of the time.
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I thought Stonehill Defender kept you within your class?
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then yeah I have no idea
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It was trough an informant that the mage got from a mirror and bounced it with a panda. It happened like very early in the match when we were both playing slow so i completely forgot he even did it.
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I've also had a rogue discover lethal off of me as a mage with hallucination >.>. This happens a lot.
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KokoroAkechi posted...

It was trough an informant that the mage got from a mirror and bounced it with a panda. It happened like very early in the match when we were both playing slow so i completely forgot he even did it.

...I love this game.
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KokoroAkechi posted...

If you face me and im playing rogue there is a 100% chance I have patches in my opening hand.

I'd rather draw patches in quest rogue tbh
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Every single time I have ever drafted aggro in the arena, I have faced nothing but people with multiple board wipes.

Imagine playing against 95% counterpicks and you'll figure out why I hate this game. There is zero class balance.
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anyone want 80g
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Yeah hit me up I'm Phenometron #1750 on bnet

i am Neptune#12910
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I do but it seems likely two other people are already on the offer
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seg was gone by the time I was done my tavern brawl and kokoro is slamming purify priest

so it's still up for grabs
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k logging in now
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Ellery #11394
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Camden#1131.

I'm not on right now to help you, I just want to join in with all of the name dropping.
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bought a pack with out match money

got priest quest

not bad



now have two quests, and don't reaaaaaaally want to play either
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this game hates me

I have been hovering around the rank 6/5 border for like three days now

every time I get right to the edge, I get gatekeeped out
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Despite the fact that the winrate isn't very high, I still contemplate conceding and closing the game every time I come up against a Quest Rogue. I don't think I've ever faced a single deck that's less fun to play against.
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https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/standard/2017-04-14

Click on tier 1. On a long enough timeline, my claims are all proven right eventually. Taunt is a mechanic that is in no way designed properly.

Now go pick Rogue in this week's tavern brawl, and compare that Rogue deck to the actual meta. The idiots who designed this game were literally too stupid to realize the Rogue quest could happen too quickly. When I say Blizzard doesn't know what the fuck they're doing, I know what I'm talking about.
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CybrMonkey posted...

I'll wait for actual data from Vicious Syndicate rather than the suppositions of Tempo Storm employees. The first report should be out tomorrow. From the beta stats it looks like silence Priest is still tier 3 (but so is quest Rogue):

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/data-reaper-live-beta/

Here it is!

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-44/

Wow Warlock and Shaman least played classes who saw that coming (I mean, I thought Warlock be pretty meh but Shaman being near the bottom surprises me)
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It's interesting that both Murloc and elemental shaman aren't quite enough to compete at high levels. They are both pretty powerful well curved decks
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ClyTheCool posted...

It's interesting that both Murloc and elemental shaman aren't quite enough to compete at high levels. They are both pretty powerful well curved decks

Basically, Quest Murloc Shaman is in a bad spot vs. Pirate Warrior and Quest Rogue, against whom it cannot afford to skip t1; and while Paladin has 2 fantastic 1-drop murlocs, Shaman's got no good class murlocs in Standard. At all.

If Everyfin were still legal, they'd be in a fantastic spot, but as it stands... Yeah.
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