Board 8 > Non-comic readers, what's your opinion on Superman?

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tereziWright 05/10/12 5:16:00 PM #1:	Interested in what public perception of the character seems to be. I'm not gonna mock you or correct you or tell you why you're wrong about what you think of him or anything, because the whole point is to see what people think who don't read Supes, not inform them about him. I would prefer a reasoning for your thought, positive or negative. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132140] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Interested in what public perception of the character seems to be.I'm not gonna mock you or correct you or tell you why you're wrong about what you think of him or anything, because the whole point is to see what people think who don't read Supes, not inform them about him.I would prefer a reasoning for your thought, positive or negative. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingBartz 05/10/12 5:17:00 PM #2:	I've never liked him. I found him to be a boring superhero and the whole kryptonite thing(his weakness) sounds so contrived. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. <cite>KingBartz posted [p:1132141] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I've never liked him. I found him to be a boring superhero and the whole kryptonite thing(his weakness) sounds so contrived. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperAngelo128 05/10/12 5:17:00 PM #3:	I sorta like him but he is a bit overpowered from what I remember -- http://www.backloggery.com/superangelo128 http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange128 http://vndb.org/u6633/votes http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7524301 <cite>SuperAngelo128 posted [p:1132142] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I sorta like him but he is a bit overpowered from what I remember -- http://www.backloggery.com/superangelo128 http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange128 http://vndb.org/u6633/votes http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7524301 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Some_Character 05/10/12 5:20:00 PM #4:	Kind of boring and overpowered. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo. SuperNiceDog. Best friend. <cite>Some_Character posted [p:1132143] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Kind of boring and overpowered. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.SuperNiceDog. Best friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 05/10/12 5:26:00 PM #5:	From: tereziWright \| #001 Interested in what public perception of the character seems to be. I'm not gonna mock you or correct you or tell you why you're wrong about what you think of him or anything, because the whole point is to see what people think who don't read Supes, not inform them about him. I would prefer a reasoning for your thought, positive or negative. He's a character who has tapped out. The well of stories you can draw from Superman is actually pretty rich, but the issue is that they're better suited to long novels that can spend lots of time on internal monologues, motivations, and small talk than comic books. He's a character who doesn't really work on his medium, because his good stories rely on addressing philosophical and ethical issues that arise from having such immense powers for the most part, and less on action and eye-candy. Comics (mostly) can't balance the need to include action and a fast-moving plot with the sort of delicate, profound treatment of t he issues of humanity and power Superman needs. So, he ends up being boring. Contrast with Batman and other less powerful (or more proportionately powered compared to their enemies) heroes, who can afford to include lots of action that doesn't rely on random nerfing of the character's powers, stupidity, or flimsy justifications of holding back. PS: For example, if Superman started killing for good reason and with lasting effects (AKA no resurrections until at least 10 IRL years pass, knows enough to keep this meting out of justice to irredeemable villains and so on), that'd be a character arc that could be explored to great effect. Because of the medium he's in though, this can't really happen. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:1132144] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: tereziWright \| #001Interested in what public perception of the character seems to be.I'm not gonna mock you or correct you or tell you why you're wrong about what you think of him or anything, because the whole point is to see what people think who don't read Supes, not inform them about him.I would prefer a reasoning for your thought, positive or negative.He's a character who has tapped out. The well of stories you can draw from Superman is actually pretty rich, but the issue is that they're better suited to long novels that can spend lots of time on internal monologues, motivations, and small talk than comic books. He's a character who doesn't really work on his medium, because his good stories rely on addressing philosophical and ethical issues that arise from having such immense powers for the most part, and less on action and eye-candy. Comics (mostly) can't balance the need to include action and a fast-moving plot with the sort of delicate, profound treatment of t he issues of humanity and power Superman needs. So, he ends up being boring. Contrast with Batman and other less powerful (or more proportionately powered compared to their enemies) heroes, who can afford to include lots of action that doesn't rely on random nerfing of the character's powers, stupidity, or flimsy justifications of holding back.PS: For example, if Superman started killing for good reason and with lasting effects (AKA no resurrections until at least 10 IRL years pass, knows enough to keep this meting out of justice to irredeemable villains and so on), that'd be a character arc that could be explored to great effect. Because of the medium he's in though, this can't really happen. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 05/10/12 5:32:00 PM #6:	He seems rather boring in comparison to other superheroes. I've never thought of him as having much of a personality beyond "gotta save people". -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~ http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:1132145] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> He seems rather boring in comparison to other superheroes. I've never thought of him as having much of a personality beyond "gotta save people". -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 05/10/12 5:37:00 PM #7:	I'd say boring and overpowered, but that is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to 'Man of Steel'. Christopher Nolan did wonders with Batman by just taking advantage of the dark side of Batman. Great movies, but easy subject matter. I think it will be much more difficult to make movies as intense as the Batman ones using Superman as the subject. -- 'Two of the six slides at six flags I assume that is why it is named that for six being its slide number. ' - Whiskey Nick <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:1132146] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I'd say boring and overpowered, but that is EXACTLY why I'm looking forward to 'Man of Steel'.Christopher Nolan did wonders with Batman by just taking advantage of the dark side of Batman. Great movies, but easy subject matter. I think it will be much more difficult to make movies as intense as the Batman ones using Superman as the subject. -- 'Two of the six slides at six flags I assume that is why it is named that for six being its slide number. ' - Whiskey Nick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Finalxflash 05/10/12 5:38:00 PM #8:	Quailman > Superman -- So I said, blue M&M, red M&M, they all wind up the same color in the end. - Homer Simpson <cite>Finalxflash posted [p:1132147] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Quailman > Superman -- So I said, blue M&M, red M&M, they all wind up the same color in the end. - Homer Simpson </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 05/10/12 5:39:00 PM #9:	My opinion is that he is boring. -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:1132148] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> My opinion is that he is boring. -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
agesboy 05/10/12 5:43:00 PM #10:	Generic powers, mostly. He's all-around perfect except for one very specific weakness. Instead of excelling by pushing one aspect of himself to the extreme (like The Flash's speed or Batman's planning), he's just... everything. I like characters who have extreme flaws to overcome. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2hsv6ataW1qfu8w8o1_1280.jpg KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. <cite>agesboy posted [p:1132149] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Generic powers, mostly. He's all-around perfect except for one very specific weakness. Instead of excelling by pushing one aspect of himself to the extreme (like The Flash's speed or Batman's planning), he's just... everything. I like characters who have extreme flaws to overcome. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2hsv6ataW1qfu8w8o1_1280.jpgKrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 05/10/12 5:43:00 PM #11:	He seems rather boring in comparison to other superheroes. I've never thought of him as having much of a personality beyond "gotta save people". This is my basic impression. Courageous, heroic, pure of heart, and completely bland. Also I think his character design is kinda lame. -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:1132150] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> He seems rather boring in comparison to other superheroes. I've never thought of him as having much of a personality beyond "gotta save people".This is my basic impression. Courageous, heroic, pure of heart, and completely bland. Also I think his character design is kinda lame. -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonOcean 05/10/12 5:43:00 PM #12:	Boring. -- http://img.imgcake.com/crimjpgpe.jpg Mo' buildings mo' problems ocean kinda grew on me like a flesh eating ...fungus. -BIGPUN9999 <cite>CrimsonOcean posted [p:1132151] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Boring. -- http://img.imgcake.com/crimjpgpe.jpg Mo' buildings mo' problemsocean kinda grew on me like a flesh eating ...fungus. -BIGPUN9999 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 05/10/12 5:45:00 PM #13:	I enjoy him more than most DC heroes. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players http://ib.skaia.net/image/32143.gif <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:1132152] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I enjoy him more than most DC heroes. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual playershttp://ib.skaia.net/image/32143.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 5:46:00 PM #14:	BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel? http://geekdraw.com/picture/alex-ross-captain-marvel-1.jpg?pictureId=7620016&asGalleryImage=true -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132153] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel?http://geekdraw.com/picture/alex-ross-captain-marvel-1.jpg?pictureId=7620016&asGalleryImage=true -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CycloRaptor 05/10/12 5:46:00 PM #15:	well I read comics, but not DC, so I guess I'll answer. His concept is not immediately appealing, but I know that like many others that at first glance may seem generic or uninspired, a good writer can make them a good character. Lots of characters that get labeled as generic or boring, like cyclops or captain america, I find to be some of my favorites. I never really was a big fan of the Superman films, but I did really like the way he was handled in the earlier seasons of Smallville (i have only seen the early ones, so no idea about the rest). -- http://img.imgcake.com/newaccountjpget.jpg <cite>CycloRaptor posted [p:1132154] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> well I read comics, but not DC, so I guess I'll answer.His concept is not immediately appealing, but I know that like many others that at first glance may seem generic or uninspired, a good writer can make them a good character. Lots of characters that get labeled as generic or boring, like cyclops or captain america, I find to be some of my favorites. I never really was a big fan of the Superman films, but I did really like the way he was handled in the earlier seasons of Smallville (i have only seen the early ones, so no idea about the rest). -- http://img.imgcake.com/newaccountjpget.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 05/10/12 5:47:00 PM #16:	I think he's great, but I'm partially just reacting against people thinking he's lame for bad reasons. -- "[This is perfect. I have always fought with these kinds of cards. You say that I have lost the moment I was dealt? It's just the same as always!]" <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:1132155] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I think he's great, but I'm partially just reacting against people thinking he's lame for bad reasons. -- "[This is perfect. I have always fought with these kinds of cards. You say that I have lost the moment I was dealt? It's just the same as always!]" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 05/10/12 5:50:00 PM #17:	I've never heard of Captain Marvel, but that picture is hilariously awful. -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:1132156] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I've never heard of Captain Marvel, but that picture is hilariously awful. -- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 05/10/12 5:51:00 PM #18:	I wouldn't say I'm a "comic person" but I have read through Green Lantern up through Blackest Night and I pick up the occasional trade. Before I started reading anything, I thought Superman was boring, just a boyscout paladin. Now I'm ok with him. I wouldn't put him in my top 10 or anything, but I wouldn't watch an episode of Justice League and feel like "oh... a Superman episode..." As for Marvel, I know a lot less about him and he seems like he's essentially my previous perception of Superman, but I doubt that's true. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1132157] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I wouldn't say I'm a "comic person" but I have read through Green Lantern up through Blackest Night and I pick up the occasional trade. Before I started reading anything, I thought Superman was boring, just a boyscout paladin. Now I'm ok with him. I wouldn't put him in my top 10 or anything, but I wouldn't watch an episode of Justice League and feel like "oh... a Superman episode..." As for Marvel, I know a lot less about him and he seems like he's essentially my previous perception of Superman, but I doubt that's true. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 05/10/12 5:54:00 PM #19:	From: tereziWright \| #014 BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel? He seemed kinda cool in DC Universe online of what I played. He looks pretty goofy in that picture though. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players http://img.imgcake.com/YetAnotherShadow/Gameboyfeverjpegez.jpg <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:1132158] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: tereziWright \| #014BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel?He seemed kinda cool in DC Universe online of what I played.He looks pretty goofy in that picture though. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual playershttp://img.imgcake.com/YetAnotherShadow/Gameboyfeverjpegez.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 05/10/12 5:55:00 PM #20:	From: tereziWright \| #014 BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel? http://geekdraw.com/picture/alex-ross-captain-marvel-1.jpg?pictureId=7620016&asGalleryImage=true Boss. Being a kid, if a kid who has matured quite a bit, makes him a much better Superman. His adventures are far more interesting because his enemies can oppose him on simpler grounds that translate more easily to comics. Plus, you know, he's cooler. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:1132159] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: tereziWright \| #014BONUS QUESTION: If you are even aware of who he is, what is your opinion of Captain Marvel?http://geekdraw.com/picture/alex-ross-captain-marvel-1.jpg?pictureId=7620016&asGalleryImage=trueBoss. Being a kid, if a kid who has matured quite a bit, makes him a much better Superman. His adventures are far more interesting because his enemies can oppose him on simpler grounds that translate more easily to comics.Plus, you know, he's cooler. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westbrick 05/10/12 5:55:00 PM #21:	*Some_Character posted...* Kind of boring and overpowered. -- ~LOLKnicks~ http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-2ovjj0.gif <cite>Westbrick posted [p:1132160] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Some_Character posted...Kind of boring and overpowered. -- ~LOLKnicks~http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-2ovjj0.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSBM_Guy 05/10/12 5:56:00 PM #22:	Drak kind of sums up my thoughts. I really don't like Superman. I mean, I understand why he exists and how it's appealing, but it just feels very boring. I feel like there's potential to Superman's character, too. I don't really know much about comicbooks, but all the movies seem to be considered from "so-so" to "awful" and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series." As for Captain Marvel, I know very little of him. I know he goes SHAZAM! and that makes him get his powers. Is he supposed to be completely over the top? Because if so, I think they did a pretty good job on that. If not, "whoops". -- Rank 9, Dr. Peace? Pffft, nothing compared to Rank 1, Dr_Football! when thinking of Krystal, does GMUN's pants get overcrowded? ~ GMUN <cite>SSBM_Guy posted [p:1132161] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Drak kind of sums up my thoughts. I really don't like Superman. I mean, I understand why he exists and how it's appealing, but it just feels very boring. I feel like there's potential to Superman's character, too. I don't really know much about comicbooks, but all the movies seem to be considered from "so-so" to "awful" and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series."As for Captain Marvel, I know very little of him. I know he goes SHAZAM! and that makes him get his powers. Is he supposed to be completely over the top? Because if so, I think they did a pretty good job on that. If not, "whoops". -- Rank 9, Dr. Peace? Pffft, nothing compared to Rank 1, Dr_Football!when thinking of Krystal, does GMUN's pants get overcrowded? ~ GMUN </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 05/10/12 5:57:00 PM #23:	lame -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/pamyugifra.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:1132162] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> lame -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/pamyugifra.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 5:57:00 PM #24:	From: YetAnothrShadow \| #019 He seemed kinda cool in DC Universe online of what I played. He looks pretty goofy in that picture though. Well Alex Ross is all about hyper realism. Alternatively And his new look -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132163] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: YetAnothrShadow \| #019He seemed kinda cool in DC Universe online of what I played.He looks pretty goofy in that picture though.Well Alex Ross is all about hyper realism.AlternativelyAnd his new look -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 05/10/12 5:58:00 PM #25:	From: SSBM_Guy \| #022 Drak kind of sums up my thoughts. I really don't like Superman. I mean, I understand why he exists and how it's appealing, but it just feels very boring. I feel like there's potential to Superman's character, too. I don't really know much about comicbooks, but all the movies seem to be considered from "so-so" to "awful" and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series." As "not a big Superman guy", read Red Son. It's one of my favorite stories and it's set in an alternate reality. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1132164] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: SSBM_Guy \| #022Drak kind of sums up my thoughts. I really don't like Superman. I mean, I understand why he exists and how it's appealing, but it just feels very boring. I feel like there's potential to Superman's character, too. I don't really know much about comicbooks, but all the movies seem to be considered from "so-so" to "awful" and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series."As "not a big Superman guy", read Red Son. It's one of my favorite stories and it's set in an alternate reality. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:02:00 PM #26:	and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series." Guess I'll throw these out there for those interested. Superman and the Legion of Superheroes Last Son Superman: Brainiac Up, Up, & Away! Superman: For All Season Red Son Secret identity And there is, of course, All-Star Superman, considered by many to be one of, if not the, greatest superhero comics ever. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132165] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> and I never hear about "Oh, here's this great Superman comic series."Guess I'll throw these out there for those interested.Superman and the Legion of SuperheroesLast Son Superman: BrainiacUp, Up, & Away!Superman: For All SeasonRed SonSecret identityAnd there is, of course, All-Star Superman, considered by many to be one of, if not the, greatest superhero comics ever. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 05/10/12 6:02:00 PM #27:	Superman to me is a relic of a bygone era. Maybe he was exciting in the 50's or whatever. Now, he seems bland and out of date and no longer reflects the times, unlike Batman who has remained contemporary. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:1132166] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Superman to me is a relic of a bygone era. Maybe he was exciting in the 50's or whatever. Now, he seems bland and out of date and no longer reflects the times, unlike Batman who has remained contemporary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ytterbium_70 05/10/12 6:05:00 PM #28:	Superman? Meh. A guy who gets nerfed to make battles fair and has one blatant weakness (which contains a noble gas for goodness' sakes; it shouldn't hurt anything) isn't exactly my kind of superhero. The story may be pretty good, however. <cite>Ytterbium_70 posted [p:1132167] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Superman? Meh.A guy who gets nerfed to make battles fair and has one blatant weakness (which contains a noble gas for goodness' sakes; it shouldn't hurt anything) isn't exactly my kind of superhero. The story may be pretty good, however. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TVontheRadio 05/10/12 6:05:00 PM #29:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* He's a character who has tapped out. The well of stories you can draw from Superman is actually pretty rich, but the issue is that they're better suited to long novels that can spend lots of time on internal monologues, motivations, and small talk than comic books. He's a character who doesn't really work on his medium, because his good stories rely on addressing philosophical and ethical issues that arise from having such immense powers for the most part, and less on action and eye-candy. Comics (mostly) can't balance the need to include action and a fast-moving plot with the sort of delicate, profound treatment of t he issues of humanity and power Superman needs. So, he ends up being boring. Contrast with Batman and other less powerful (or more proportionately powered compared to their enemies) heroes, who can afford to include lots of action that doesn't rely on random nerfing of the character's powers, stupidity, or flimsy justifications of holding back. PS: For example, if Superman started killing for good reason and with lasting effects (AKA no resurrections until at least 10 IRL years pass, knows enough to keep this meting out of justice to irredeemable villains and so on), that'd be a character arc that could be explored to great effect. Because of the medium he's in though, this can't really happen. you seem to be answering as if you have read the comics based on the statements you make but then this topic shouldn't even be for you and if you haven't read the comics, then i don't think you should be making any sort of statements regarding how a character can't work in the actual medium i can stomach the easy opinions the others gave about the character but to say such a big claim that he can't be given the proper treatment in comics if you haven't read any is utterly ridiculous -- all you need <cite>TVontheRadio posted [p:1132168] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...He's a character who has tapped out. The well of stories you can draw from Superman is actually pretty rich, but the issue is that they're better suited to long novels that can spend lots of time on internal monologues, motivations, and small talk than comic books. He's a character who doesn't really work on his medium, because his good stories rely on addressing philosophical and ethical issues that arise from having such immense powers for the most part, and less on action and eye-candy. Comics (mostly) can't balance the need to include action and a fast-moving plot with the sort of delicate, profound treatment of t he issues of humanity and power Superman needs. So, he ends up being boring. Contrast with Batman and other less powerful (or more proportionately powered compared to their enemies) heroes, who can afford to include lots of action that doesn't rely on random nerfing of the character's powers, stupidity, or flimsy justifications of holding back.PS: For example, if Superman started killing for good reason and with lasting effects (AKA no resurrections until at least 10 IRL years pass, knows enough to keep this meting out of justice to irredeemable villains and so on), that'd be a character arc that could be explored to great effect. Because of the medium he's in though, this can't really happen.you seem to be answering as if you have read the comics based on the statements you make but then this topic shouldn't even be for youand if you haven't read the comics, then i don't think you should be making any sort of statements regarding how a character can't work in the actual mediumi can stomach the easy opinions the others gave about the character but to say such a big claim that he can't be given the proper treatment in comics if you haven't read any is utterly ridiculous -- all you need </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/12 6:08:00 PM #30:	From: tereziWright \| #026 Red Son One of my favorite comics ever. -- ~Ç~ http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/fdshieldpngyn.png Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:1132169] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: tereziWright \| #026Red SonOne of my favorite comics ever. -- ~Ç~ http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/fdshieldpngyn.png Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/nio/9fdpngys.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:09:00 PM #31:	As far as Red Son goes, I recommend it even though it's written by my least favorite comic writer ever, so...yeah, it's good s*. All-Star is still on top, though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132170] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> As far as Red Son goes, I recommend it even though it's written by my least favorite comic writer ever, so...yeah, it's good s*.All-Star is still on top, though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big Bob 05/10/12 6:13:00 PM #32:	I kinda agree with everyone else that he's overpowered and flawless, which makes him boring as a character. However, I do find his enemy Lex Luthor to be incredible interesting. Superman's all-powerful, but his greatest foe is one he can't just punch in the face. A political enemy is much more interesting than another superpowered villain. -- SuperNiceDog took my lunch money. <cite>Big Bob posted [p:1132171] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I kinda agree with everyone else that he's overpowered and flawless, which makes him boring as a character. However, I do find his enemy Lex Luthor to be incredible interesting. Superman's all-powerful, but his greatest foe is one he can't just punch in the face. A political enemy is much more interesting than another superpowered villain. -- SuperNiceDog took my lunch money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 05/10/12 6:14:00 PM #33:	Boring and overpowered. Also a complete dick in some of the earlier comics. -- SuperNiceDog is pretty good. <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:1132172] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Boring and overpowered.Also a complete dick in some of the earlier comics. -- SuperNiceDog is pretty good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoName999 05/10/12 6:15:00 PM #34:	ITT: LOL non comic readers -- "This grass feels funny," Kirby thought. It feels like.... pants <cite>NoName999 posted [p:1132173] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> ITT: LOL non comic readers -- "This grass feels funny," Kirby thought. It feels like.... pants </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DannyWoodhead 05/10/12 6:15:00 PM #35:	Boring and overpowered yes. Apart from Batman I find DC rather lacking. Marvel way better -- MZero the extreme yes i am Yugi i have spike hair and i play card games with ugly monsters on them its time to Duel-ertyu <cite>DannyWoodhead posted [p:1132174] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Boring and overpowered yes. Apart from Batman I find DC rather lacking.Marvel way better -- MZero the extremeyes i am Yugi i have spike hair and i play card games with ugly monsters on them its time to Duel-ertyu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 05/10/12 6:21:00 PM #36:	I don't really care about him one way or the other. -- "Later..." <Toonami> <4/1/2012> <Never Forget> ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:1132175] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I don't really care about him one way or the other. -- "Later..." <Toonami> <4/1/2012> <Never Forget> ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 05/10/12 6:23:00 PM #37:	*Big Bob posted...* I kinda agree with everyone else that he's overpowered and flawless, which makes him boring as a character. However, I do find his enemy Lex Luthor to be incredible interesting. Superman's all-powerful, but his greatest foe is one he can't just punch in the face. A political enemy is much more interesting than another superpowered villain. This is an interesting point, actually. Lex Luthor is interesting. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:1132176] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Big Bob posted...I kinda agree with everyone else that he's overpowered and flawless, which makes him boring as a character. However, I do find his enemy Lex Luthor to be incredible interesting. Superman's all-powerful, but his greatest foe is one he can't just punch in the face. A political enemy is much more interesting than another superpowered villain.This is an interesting point, actually. Lex Luthor is interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:24:00 PM #38:	From: DannyWoodhead \| #035 Boring and overpowered yes. Apart from Batman I find DC rather lacking. Marvel way better Interested in this. Who comes to mind when you think DC? -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132177] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: DannyWoodhead \| #035Boring and overpowered yes. Apart from Batman I find DC rather lacking.Marvel way betterInterested in this. Who comes to mind when you think DC? -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 05/10/12 6:25:00 PM #39:	He has nice teeth. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:1132178] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> He has nice teeth. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 05/10/12 6:25:00 PM #40:	Based on the Justice League cartoon and wikipedia, Superman seems pretty awesome to me. I don't know enough about Captain Marvel though. -- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:1132179] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Based on the Justice League cartoon and wikipedia, Superman seems pretty awesome to me.I don't know enough about Captain Marvel though. -- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi<sneaky beeping> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 05/10/12 6:28:00 PM #41:	DC named a character Captain Marvel are you serious? -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:1132180] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> DC named a character Captain Marvel are you serious? -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mik_Pick 05/10/12 6:29:00 PM #42:	From watching the first four and a half seasons of Smallville he seems like a pretty awesome guy. -- XBL: Mik Pick PSN: Mik2Pick <cite>Mik_Pick posted [p:1132181] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From watching the first four and a half seasons of Smallville he seems like a pretty awesome guy. -- XBL: Mik PickPSN: Mik2Pick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veola 05/10/12 6:30:00 PM #43:	How can anyone NOT love Captain Marvel? He's just so giddy about hanging around other superheroes, you just wanna pinch his cheeks. And you just know he spends all his spare not-being-unshazam'd time helping old ladies across the street and running charity bake sales. <cite>Veola posted [p:1132182] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> How can anyone NOT love Captain Marvel? He's just so giddy about hanging around other superheroes, you just wanna pinch his cheeks.And you just know he spends all his spare not-being-unshazam'd time helping old ladies across the street and running charity bake sales. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:37:00 PM #44:	From: CoolCly \| #041 DC named a character Captain Marvel are you serious? Captain Marvel was originally from Fawcett comics, which DC bought. Both existed long before Marvel comics. In the old days, Captain Marvel was actually a much more popular character than Superman. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132183] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: CoolCly \| #041DC named a character Captain Marvel are you serious?Captain Marvel was originally from Fawcett comics, which DC bought. Both existed long before Marvel comics. In the old days, Captain Marvel was actually a much more popular character than Superman. -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wedge Antilles 05/10/12 6:47:00 PM #46:	I find him to be boring and cliched. And I also get a bit of a laugh at how the guy who can throw people into the sun constantly almost gets his ass kicked by a guy with no super powers. -- The Diligent One <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:1132185] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I find him to be boring and cliched. And I also get a bit of a laugh at how the guy who can throw people into the sun constantly almost gets his ass kicked by a guy with no super powers. -- The Diligent One </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 05/10/12 6:50:00 PM #47:	Pretty much what a lot of people have said. I like his design though, and even his personality could be exciting if he was an underdog. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1132186] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> Pretty much what a lot of people have said.I like his design though, and even his personality could be exciting if he was an underdog. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:54:00 PM #48:	From: Ed Bellis \| #045 I haven't read a lot of Superman comics, but I've read some. I didn't like All-Star Superman or Red Son; the fact that both get praised all the time confounds me. From the stories I've read (and this is totally not what you want, I know, since I do read comics occasionally) I enjoy Supes more in ensemble works, like in Justice League stories, or team-ups with Batman. I feel like he's a good foil to play off of other characters, and he fills a good leadership role. No comment on the overpoweredness, since I haven't read enough regular Supes stories to really judge. If you're interested in something that goes in a completely different route than either of those and is similarly praised, check out the fairly numerous stories written by Geoff Johns of Green lantern fame. They were co-written by Richard Donner, director of the first movie and most of the 2nd. Specifically, these 4. http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Up-Away-Kurt-Busiek/dp/1401209548/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701179&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Last-Son-Richard-Donner/dp/140121343X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Legion-Super-Heroes-Geoff-Johns/dp/1401219047/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-2 http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Brainiac-Geoff-Johns/dp/1401220886/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-3 -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132187] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> From: Ed Bellis \| #045I haven't read a lot of Superman comics, but I've read some. I didn't like All-Star Superman or Red Son; the fact that both get praised all the time confounds me. From the stories I've read (and this is totally not what you want, I know, since I do read comics occasionally) I enjoy Supes more in ensemble works, like in Justice League stories, or team-ups with Batman. I feel like he's a good foil to play off of other characters, and he fills a good leadership role.No comment on the overpoweredness, since I haven't read enough regular Supes stories to really judge.If you're interested in something that goes in a completely different route than either of those and is similarly praised, check out the fairly numerous stories written by Geoff Johns of Green lantern fame. They were co-written by Richard Donner, director of the first movie and most of the 2nd. Specifically, these 4.http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Up-Away-Kurt-Busiek/dp/1401209548/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701179&sr=1-1http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Last-Son-Richard-Donner/dp/140121343X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-1http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Legion-Super-Heroes-Geoff-Johns/dp/1401219047/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-2http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Brainiac-Geoff-Johns/dp/1401220886/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701057&sr=1-3 -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 05/10/12 6:55:00 PM #49:	I really, really don't like Superman, if only because his powers are so... powerful, that I can't see how he continues to have villains. You don't even need to kill Lex, just fly to Mars, build a prison there which can support life, and drop villains off there. How many villains can get off of **ing Mars? I bet not many. -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:1132188] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> I really, really don't like Superman, if only because his powers are so... powerful, that I can't see how he continues to have villains. You don't even need to kill Lex, just fly to Mars, build a prison there which can support life, and drop villains off there. How many villains can get off of ing Mars? I bet not many. -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D** </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 05/10/12 6:59:00 PM #50:	How many villains can get off of f*ing Mars? I bet not many. You would be surprised. (PS This comic is horrendous) -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gif http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:1132189] in Non-comic ... [t:62774087]...</cite> <quote> How many villains can get off of f***ing Mars? I bet not many.You would be surprised.(PS This comic is horrendous) -- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrlydlw2kYU21r0x924o1500gifru.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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